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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun


True you-know-who (for heaven's sake please tell your name 🤣, you know how it feels to call you THAT ) !!


I am yet to explore the world literature like some of you, so I am not THAT aware. I am more into thrillers and detective stories from English that's the limit of my exposure to world lit. 😳😆 But yes I know of Romeo Juliet and there was more I cannot recall right now, killing each other, dying together sounds fun in 'love-stories'. 😆 In reality, I prefer love-stories like Veer-Zaara - A Selfless, moving, encouraging love-story which teaches me to live for the dreams of the person you love rather than just giving away your life for them and hurting all other people around you. Veer-Zaara would remain the most touching love-story I have seen in entire BW and HW. 😳


Haha, my name is Akansha 😆 To a teen me, (when I had joined IF) that username had sounded so cool. 😆 It still sounds cool to me, tbh. I have major growing up to do. :P

I have seen Veer Zaara and yes, it is a beautiful story. But again, I don't believe in falling in love in one week. :P Like I said, I really enjoy all these insane, impossible and forbidden love stories and I am a true romantic at heart. But I think its better if you keep them on TV and don't bring them to real life. I speak from experience. 😆 If you love someone, it should make you a better person, not a bad person. That is my yardstick now. 😊

Oh and if you haven't seen Me before you, please watch. :D Sam Claflin 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you, Khushi. 😊

Originally posted by: khushi_shankar

Wow! What a great article! Thanks for sharing it, Tia

Yes, love is not enough. A lot of other things are needed in a relationship to make it work.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you, Steffie. See, that worries me. All those vulnerable young mind who can't even realize that nothing in the world is worth losing your self-respect for.

True love, the constructive healthy kind, builds up our self-respect, our confidence in ourselves. It doesn't tear our honour and dignity down.

A husband is a life partner, but he is a human being too. He is not an extension of us, nor we are an extension of him. So he will make mistakes, we will too. Putting him on a pedestal and thinking that he can treat us anyway or misbehave with us on the strength of a marital relationship is lowering our self-worth and also letting him be the kind of person no one can respect. How would our children grow up by seeing that example?

Steffie, you are much more matured and sorted girl for your age. It's an excellent example of how well you were brought up. Keep that confidence in your self and never let anyone drag your dignity down. I hope you get everything in life that you deserve. The world needs stronger women.

Originally posted by: AngelsFlyAlone

FANTASTIC article! I actually have friends here (idiot ones, mind you) but sometimes what they say burns my existence so badly. So a lot of them wanna get married at 23-24 (yeah what the f*ck right) so anyways I'm not judging them, their life, their choice. But we do have frequent discussions on you know, "Would you ever agree to do things your husband asks if he belittled you or held an inferior regard for women." and would you believe it. THEY SAID YES! Exact words "Ofcourse, he's my husband!"

I cannot explain the rage in my mind and how mad I was! Another close friend of mine locked eyes (super shocked expressions and eye chat) with me and we both were so annoyed. We instantly changed the topic. I mean if 15 year olds have this mindset then YUCK!

Anyways, about love. These friends have this thing about love and you know, teen romance novels (lets not get into how much I hate romantic cheesy shit) and yeah they have this thing about lovey dovey stuff and how much love is important for someone to live. Well I guess it is quite necessary. You do a lot of things for love. Because of love. Like it does drive a lot of actions and decisions you take. You do things and live for love. Could be a person, your family or things you're so passionate about. But yeah its important. But that doesn't mean that it can alone solve all problems. This article is BRILLIANT!


Edited by tia.o - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Thank you, Steffie. See, that worries me. All those vulnerable young mind who can't even realize that nothing in the world is worth losing your self-respect for.

True love, the constructive healthy kind, builds up our self-respect, our confidence in ourselves. It doesn't tear our honour and dignity down.

A husband is a life partner, but he is a human being too. He is not an extension of us, nor we are an extension of him. So he will make mistakes, we will too. Putting him on a pedestal and thinking that he can treat us anyway or misbehave with us on the strength of a marital relationship is lowering our self-worth and also letting him be the kind of person no one can respect. How would our children grow up by seeing that example?

Steffie, you are much more matured and sorted girl for your age. It's an excellent example of how well you were brought up. Keep that confidence in your self and never let anyone drag your dignity down. I hope you get everything in life that you deserve. The world needs stronger women.


@BOLD: I beg to differ slightly 😆 Actually you won't believe this super weird thing I wanna do in life LOL

I want to date 9 boys (all of them should be tennis players, mind you) you see 9 is my lucky number. And on those 9 exes (cause I'll break up with them, and no not all at once. 9 in a row😆) I'll write songs about them and base them on all I've learnt from 9 mistakes (told you, i'm crazy ;P) Cause I do write songs just based on my experiences, but let me do something very Taylor Swift :)

I doubt 9 people will willingly date me, so its only a random thing I wanna do. Yeah, those 9 idiots may go ahead and cheat on me cause I'm really just interested in their exceptional tennis skills.

Btw, before you go truly insane after reading these random things, I'll reply properly to your reply!

About the vulnerability, I feel that is only a very subjective thing for people. You choose to be vulnerable by letting the things influence you. It is you that allows these things to manipulate you. I mean ofcourse how one is brought up is something that shapes them too but the vulnerability and the naive structure is also very much about how easily people can lure you into their webs.

I personally have seen, people tend to easily believe things that are handed out to them. Like school children believe that whatever is handed out in the text book is a fact. But imagine if those facts were false things. So whatever is being learnt at a tender age is all untrue information. That's the problem I have. People teaching girls a different definition of character as to boys. Why?!

Actually yes, my parents have always taught me to fight for equality and never lower my standards, maybe thats why sadly a lot of people think of me as a very opinionated person and someone who enjoys arguing over controversial things. Like hell no! I have heard a quote that if you see wrong happening and in an attempt to mind your own business you choose to be silent, you have already chosen the side of the oppressor and that is not acceptable for me! I cannot allow someone to be victimised when I can do something about it! For example I joined a cricket team for a seasonal league (I left it recently because of studies) but in that entire tournament, forget the club, the entire tournament I was the ONLY girl. So in the try outs, a random guy just walked up to me and asked "Hey, whatchya doing here. Shouldn't you be doing gymnastics. This stuff is tough, not for girls!"

I mean WHAT THE F*CK!!!! How can anyone ever say that!!!!!! SEXISM AT ITS PEAK!

I started an argument on the spot as I was so taken aback! But yeah the adults asked me to calm down and he got told off!

I bet you're yawning now 😕 sorry for the long ass rant. Hope to see your response.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Honey, I am pro-choice. So whatever floats your boat is what I personally believe in provided you don't hurt someone by your choice and you are honest with them.

Coming to your point, you are right. We believe what we are taught and that's why equality needs to begin from the day a child is born.

Unfortunately sexism is not just limited to one gender, it's extended to ALL genders. A man coming to a nursing school faces as much sexist comments as a woman working in construction site.

What we need to start is stop defining non-gender things like playing a sport or choices of education or choice of profession etc. into a gender based thing as opposed to a skill/talent based thing.

For that to happen, mentality needs to change from gender conscience to neutral.

If your girl child likes Lego, so be it.

If your boy child likes doll, so what?

Forcing gender based choice and connecting them with gender identity/obligation only harms a child and creates confused and disturbed adults with false sense of definition for their own gender..

Do not let people stop you from expressing an opinion. Of course, slander or abuse are not acceptable. But everything else is fair game. Every human being has the right to have an opinion, express it and they don't need anyone's permission for it regardless of their gender provided they have sufficient reasonable explanation to support that opinion if challenged.

Originally posted by: AngelsFlyAlone




@BOLD: I beg to differ slightly 😆 Actually you won't believe this super weird thing I wanna do in life LOL

I want to date 9 boys (all of them should be tennis players, mind you) you see 9 is my lucky number. And on those 9 exes (cause I'll break up with them, and no not all at once. 9 in a row😆) I'll write songs about them and base them on all I've learnt from 9 mistakes (told you, i'm crazy ;P) Cause I do write songs just based on my experiences, but let me do something very Taylor Swift :)

I doubt 9 people will willingly date me, so its only a random thing I wanna do. Yeah, those 9 idiots may go ahead and cheat on me cause I'm really just interested in their exceptional tennis skills.

Btw, before you go truly insane after reading these random things, I'll reply properly to your reply!

About the vulnerability, I feel that is only a very subjective thing for people. You choose to be vulnerable by letting the things influence you. It is you that allows these things to manipulate you. I mean ofcourse how one is brought up is something that shapes them too but the vulnerability and the naive structure is also very much about how easily people can lure you into their webs.

I personally have seen, people tend to easily believe things that are handed out to them. Like school children believe that whatever is handed out in the text book is a fact. But imagine if those facts were false things. So whatever is being learnt at a tender age is all untrue information. That's the problem I have. People teaching girls a different definition of character as to boys. Why?!

Actually yes, my parents have always taught me to fight for equality and never lower my standards, maybe thats why sadly a lot of people think of me as a very opinionated person and someone who enjoys arguing over controversial things. Like hell no! I have heard a quote that if you see wrong happening and in an attempt to mind your own business you choose to be silent, you have already chosen the side of the oppressor and that is not acceptable for me! I cannot allow someone to be victimised when I can do something about it! For example I joined a cricket team for a seasonal league (I left it recently because of studies) but in that entire tournament, forget the club, the entire tournament I was the ONLY girl. So in the try outs, a random guy just walked up to me and asked "Hey, whatchya doing here. Shouldn't you be doing gymnastics. This stuff is tough, not for girls!"

I mean WHAT THE F*CK!!!! How can anyone ever say that!!!!!! SEXISM AT ITS PEAK!

I started an argument on the spot as I was so taken aback! But yeah the adults asked me to calm down and he got told off!

I bet you're yawning now 😕 sorry for the long ass rant. Hope to see your response.


Edited by tia.o - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Honey, I am pro-choice. So whatever floats your boat is what I personally believe in provided you don't hurt someone by your choice and you are honest with them.

Coming to your point, you are right. We believe what we are taught and that's why equality needs to begin from the day a child is born.

Unfortunately sexism is not just limited to one gender, it's extended to ALL genders. A man coming to a nursing school faces as much sexist comments as a woman working in construction site.

What we need to start is stop defining non-gender things like playing a sport or choices of education or choice of profession etc. into a gender based thing as opposed to a skill/talent based thing.

For that to happen, mentality needs to change from gender conscience to neutral.

If your girl child likes Lego, so be it.

If your boy child likes doll, so what?

Forcing gender based choice and connecting them with gender identity/obligation only harms a child and creates confused and disturbed adults with false sense of definition for their own gender..

Do not let people stop you from expressing an opinion. Of course, slander or abuse are not acceptable. But everything else is fair game. Every human being has the right to have an opinion, express it and they don't need anyone's permission for it regardless of their gender provided they have sufficient reasonable explanation to support that opinion if challenged.


EXACTLY! People have made things even like food gender exclusive like Kinder Joy for girls with a princess and a Kinder Joy with a football toy. And to be honest, media sells it pretty well. That's just plain sad.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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An article for keeping.. And sure something good to be spread across🤗. Because when someone shares something of value with me, and when I see benefit in it, and I have a moral obligation to share it with all that matters to me.. 😃
And this sure stays in my mind and wo uld love to drive this forward.. Relationships can be complicated and difficult. But few people know that there are some pretty clear signals to know if a relationship is going to work or not."
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Posted: 8 years ago
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This is such a brilliant article. ⭐️Thanks for sharing it Tia. .
These days, Protagonists(mainly hero) who behave like jerks but come with a haunted past are all the rage in romance novels. And unfortunately they romanticize sacrificing your dreams and glorify despicable acts,all in the name of love.

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Hi Tia di
Brilliant article...Bookmarked! 👍🏼
I'll make my future kids read 😆
And also a brilliant thread, great discussion.

Thanks for sharing😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you. Yes, I have kind of same nature. When I read a good book or article, I feel it's my moral obligation to share. So go ahead and share with whoever you want to. Pehchaan.Kaun shared the article in her FB.. 😆

Originally posted by: Push-pull

An article for keeping.. And sure something good to be spread across🤗. Because when someone shares something of value with me, and when I see benefit in it, and I have a moral obligation to share it with all that matters to me.. 😃

And this sure stays in my mind and wo uld love to drive this forward.. Relationships can be complicated and difficult. But few people know that there are some pretty clear signals to know if a relationship is going to work or not."

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