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Posted: 8 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: sappushivu

Dear Sir, i wonder that if the "show is bordering ridiculous" , why even spend your precious time to first watch this complicated show and then take another hour to make such long posts..dont you think you shld be investing your time doing something more worthwhile and practical...and before i get questions like who am i to decide what you shld watch or not..lemme b clear, i aint askin u not to watch..am just wondering why wld u want to watch somethin u find so silly or stupid...

i have tried to watch many other shows but i can never get myself to watch any mainly coz of the standard set by krpkab..so no matter how bad some episodes are , they r still so much better than the crap shown in other shows..jus givr it a try n u ll know.. i am n wll always be team devakshi..both dev n sona are partly responsible for their current situation and I do not thnk either one of them is behaving any different than their own characters were expected to behave.. Sona was always strong and independent..coz of which she cld survive the situation she was dragged into 7 yrs ago..she along wth her family were left homeless and no one cared to look back how they survived...so being strong was the only option she had ..and now people mistke it for ego and rudness..strange..Dev did the same thng long ago..coz of which he was bitter n rude initially but no one hated him then..y?? coz hez a man ? jus like u ask if sona expects dev to fall at her feet...do expect the same of Sona? the show aint over yet..its still goin on..the cvs r tkin their time to show how these two wll get over their past differences and get together once again..we just need to watch how..but no, we have to criticize every single episode, every single dialogue of sona or dev...and btw Sir, you have no right to talk about someones level just coz they diagree to ur opinion..if u have a right to criticize the show, others have the right to critisice your post too..as long as its in an open forum..

Phew, Mayu ..read your replies too ..you r so right..even i hardly visit the forum coz all all such kinds of posts..twitter is indeed a place where i find like minded people who enjoy the show n appreciate it rather than watchin every single episode just to find faults n make long posts calling the show ridiculous !

We're all entitled to our own opinion and we have a right to express our thoughts, albeit in a respectful manner. If you aren't gaining enjoyment from his posts, you also needn't comment.

Also, just like you are able to back up your own reasons, so is he!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: sia.krpkab

Dear Mayu, Jyoti, sappushivu and others.. as a fellow Forum member I would like to clarify that Mr. Das, Tia, Pehchaan.Kaun, gemini54, Doctor and myself and many other silent and non-silent members have been keen watchers of the show and are also analytical with free flow of emotions - positive, negative and neutral in varying degrees.

This is a medium of expression for everyone of us - and yes many of us are disappointed with the way the show has been dealt with. We can be termed negative too, its a free world and we are fine to be judged upon it. In fact sometimes we don't agree with each others' views as well.

In the end its each to his own. I loved Mr.Das's post and in case you didn't, can I suggest you to refrain from posting henceforth, because it causes more chaos and friction in this fiction.

From my side, I promise that I will not comment or spoil your post if I have clashing views. Everyone commands space in this Forum and lets honor it and leave it at that thought.


yes, i do understand the fact that everyone has a right to express their opnion..but just like you are dissapointed with the way the show has been dealt wth, a few of us are dissapointed seeing the current state of our forum... this used to b such a lively place..i used to visit the forum the first thng after every episode...there used to b wonderful writeups..appreciation threads, healthy discussions and love oozing out for the show from every posts and even the criticisms were often healthy..but off late the forum is full of negative posts and critical analysis..repeating the same thng over n over again everyday..and it saddens me that coz of this some of the brilliant and positive writers have disspeared and no longer a regular..there r discussions in other SN sites abt how being in this forum now wld make u lose your sanity..and it hurts to read such thngs abt our once loved forum..we are just tryin to brng back the positivity by requesting limit the critisicm but if you want this forum to look like a place where u wld find only criticism for the show ..so be it.continue having posts calling our show "ridiculous".fill in all the pages with such posts if that makes u guys happy..anyways i stopped checkin the forum long back..jus came in coz i was directed to this post by a friend..u guys can continue having ur bashing party here everyday..afterall thats the reason u watch the show...i wonder y cant u allow the c.vs to show the story the way they want to rather than forcin your opinions and wishes for the storyline..afterall its jus a fictional story..not a real life incident to judge and punish the wrong doers and decide who is right..neways yes i wldnt comment on such posts again..i prefer to be sane and enjoy the show..!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Dear Prabhat,

I am a person who normally use a lot of color and font styles to make my post.. but I saw a remark about that also.. so i decided to stick on to this simple font...as to not loose any essence...and speak my sense to u...

For the first time maybe i feel so upset, that I have to disagree with you.. politely..

Too Complicated For Simple Minds?

Are we watching any thriller here? for you to decode it? we are all trying to figure out what's going on... and why I've decided to speak about.. coz i have personal experience.. and I can vouch for many things happening in the show for which I will stick on till end.. not like a mad fan.. (Although I love Shaheer) and you clearly know why...

You did mention in another post about a person whom you've met.. and that is ME... not just me.. my husband as well.. I've discussed to you about my life.. in detail.. and what many fail to understand is .. that people in normal life are not upfront and cut throat open... like a critic.. [oh well guys, dont worry.. I belong to that small %age of people who carry that image.. n
trust me.. it creates probs... and make us the faulty one for our marriages to fail... whereas there are complex partners with bad upbringings.. and they fail to reach upto the basic expectation of a marriage..

What we should say here in this case is "Dev is not marriage material, as his promises have failed miserably"

So Sona.. is termed perfect? How? coz she was trying every ounce to be part of the Dixit family, where she was not accepted.. why? have u thought about it? For complex and egoistic/insecure minds, the way you deal - which is straight forwardedness do not work..
And after almost about to complete about 10 years of marriage I have sadly realised the way I worked wasnt right... and thanks to KRPKAB... for making me realise that...

And so then was Dev correct? No.. but what do you do in life... kick your mom out as she is good for nothing.. and is causing u mess... and be out with your wife.. as she is not getting respect...? Sorry I do not consider marriage as my decision.. i believe it is God's.. and I have no right to be a reason of split... Neither the parents/family/friends/couple itself...!

"and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

It has not been easy on the couple.. with interfering parents and families causing a turmoil...as marriage is successful only when we have peaceful 2 n equal families.. which is why still in today's era.. love & love-arranged marriages are a frightening n dreadful experience for many as against arranged marriages.. GUYS its not a DEAL... to make a big deal out of everything... but we in India.. love a lot of drama... and they need to interfere in the air we breathe too... Unfortunately, this has become a big deal..!

I have loved Dadi a lot, for the positive person.. but i think.. somewhere she also became a bit selfish.. as her son was in pain.. she did not see beyond it.. and frankly that is the visual truth..

Both sides.. Ishwari/Asha are thinking about their own kids.. and their right way of life..
As you said, is yours the universal truth of what you speak? none is.. and no one except God can know what is the right way.. we are all trying to just reach somewhere in the right path.. for the goal we have all been born for... and i believe the lesser the critic we are, the better satisfied man is..!!! And this my father taught me.. which is the absolute truth...!!

What I love about the show is.. it took the risk of discovering layered shades of every relation... which we tend to ignore...and think that is not all that bad.. wherein they are the ones who are always weak.. and get stuck with more negative vibes.. they cannot understand anyone but them.. and this is a psychic disorder...

We all talk about adoption as a great and noble work.. but how many of us.. go for it? See it needs a lot of courage... and love.. which is selfless and one that keeps no expectation.. and that is the real love... the love of God.. who forgives every err.. and who love us abundantly for the simple reason.. "We are His"
When you adopt someone, we accept them with all flaws.. but when we adapt to something.. we do it by killing our expectations and sticking to the "Compromise" Tag...!!
In this whole show, if I saw someone like that.. it is Dadi... but she too let me down in the leap..
I do not want to be judgmental already.. and am waiting to see her role...and its impact in the story..

Jatin - too early to judge, but I loved the precap, where he discusses about how come you are hiding about Soha.. he is valid there.. a child has the right to meet her dad, if her dad wants her too..

To your points :

Dev is starting to talk to his mother, and letting her know what's running in her mind.. is dangerous for her and him.. and has made it all impossible for sona..and that is a virtue I see.. he has learned it real hard...
Dev in torn jeans - mayb not at work.. but again who decides what to wear n all..
I love Dev-Golu relationship.. and that is heavenly.. its not like Ms Suhana Bose n Ms Sonakshi Bose.. too complicated for me to see a mother n daughter calling each other in surnames...
Dev has started to give it back to interfering families who needs to know what is their limits in ones life...Mamaji.. Mamiji.. and Vikki...
And the goons beating Dev-Devakshi moments.. and talks b/w them.. resurfaced the face that these 2 are still not yet over and love and care for each other...

There is enough for me to love Dev... and see the changes that is visible in him post leap.. and am waiting for Sonakshi to know the real truth.. if she care to.. i will wait n watch...

1) I clearly remember how Ishwari said a dialogue to Sona in the temple, and how we all said... this lady is mad... and so rude...
"Now I want you to be a mother, to understand the bond of a mother and child..."

Sona became a mother,.. but frankly she is doing the same as Ishwari.. as long as Soha is doing what Sona loves.. she is the best bla bla.. but are we all not seeing how she is missing her father..
(So called best daughter.. forgot that her daughter in order to win the title.. is not having that share of love... which a grandpa, uncle, grandma.. cannot complete.. She is not seen even having a friend.. and can one call her normal?
A 6 year old child is so chirpy.. and its so nice to spend time with them.. we do not realise how innocently they eat our time.. but we call that quality time!!!)
Sona also fret Dev will snatch away Soha from her.. why dear? if your upbringing, and family is so great and a classic example.. why do you fear it? So she knows she is wrong here...
Ishwari have the same reasons.. she is not able to change and is trying to control every single hair strand of everyone's life..due to the fact that she is known as God to many.. and she probably has started to assume it herself...

waiting to explore how we can compare the 2 mothers, and what should be done for such insecurities to die...as dev crack a way for soha, he will know what to do with ishwari...

2) Sona is successful, in which terms?? by mocking another successful man.. serving the same way other one has offered you.. okay.. until Jatin's arrival i was under the impression, she made it on her own.. so she didn't..it was her friend.. who has helped her.. and invested in her idea... while Dev invested, she felt bad...(had made a scene) that she returned.. (if Saurabh took the money, it should have been him to return to Dev.. not ishwari..) without seeing the fact that he believes in her work...
Now lets compare this with Dev... he did it on his own.. with no help at all.. so that is being successful in career...
I being a woman, would have loved Sona to be on her own.. n come up on her own... but this.. never mind..
still not proved to me.. that she is successful.. okay she won the business woman of the year.. nice and its a great thing too.. congrats...
I like Dev.. is waiting to see.. to make it to the top is easier than to maintain the top!!! And hence it is not proven she is still successful.. to me her decision to share space with Dev.. is a very wrong move.. coz she is inviting trouble for her staff n work.. like you can see..

3) she brought back the Bose house.. indeed a joy to see it back.. a home full of memories.. but i loved that simple n open family than this one... Dixits are not over with Boses.. and Boses also not over with Dixits.. its mutual.. as everyone has kept the grudge n bitterness in their hearts..
What i loved here is the statement of Golu... katti kiya toh batti karlo.. hum yehi karte hai...
One can be shown as moved on.. only when the relevant is discussed gracefully...and am waiting for that..

4) she burnt her mangalsutra.. okay does that end a marriage legally? no talks about divorce mutual / case or pre-nuptial talked about.. so aint u waiting to c that? so i wanna see that.. then will see if Jatin can / will marry Sona.. i do certainly wanna know what will Sona do.. follow her prince charming who became like that frog prince..? or the real gentleman as they all say.. Mr Joutin...

5) She doesnt need Dev as she has a friend - great... but that again is not closed...
Her family wants her to marry Jatin.. so either that thought has to come to action.. and how Dev gracefully accepts it.. or she has to refuse the whole thing and say she is still very much in love with Dev.. and Soha needs a dad or her dad.. is still a ques.. and am waiting for that...

6) She had a fairy tale.., yes it went awful.. so she has made Soha so strong n boring.. so that she will grow up with practical minds that do not hurt her family.. and not believe in fairy tales.. as there is nothing like that in real world... so i want to see that... how is Soha shaping in her upbringing.. trying to prove what Ishwari did to Dev was wrong...

7) She does not need to be in touch with any dixits.. as she is independant, successful as Asha says.. but did we forget the li'l one Soha needs to... atleast for once... who knows this was going to be the cupid to bring back innocence n change in the screwed world they all are in...? Am waiting to see how they unfold the tale...


To think that Sona still loves Dev inspite of what you made him to be and the things that he is made to do to her, is extremely hard to digest. It is.. And seeing me with my partner.. is it not the same?

From what I understand life.. it is not simple.. it is filled with layered characters.. and God's purpose and approach is different... Sona has a beautiful family.. and normal childhood and upbringing.. And then Dev came to her life.. He needed help.. and Sona is his helpmeet... So all in all.. that reason is enough.. how things are n why should she come back to Dev...
Thru him, even Ishwari will finally be able to make peace..
And all this is a journey.. and it needs great patience...

This show is taking a toll on most of us.. and ask me about it.. guys this is a draining process... this negativity affects us.. and it is not easy to go ahead with this goal...so i request all.. to step back from deep over analysis.. n just watch.. than trouble ur minds.. due to non-familiar characters or circumstances shown...
We should thank the show for the fast pace and the character sketch.. and a bit of drama is there to sell their product in order to continue the show...(like someone mentioned)

PS : A handy reference - small glossary..
Even science cannot decode complex minds.. then who is simple...? I find only a small child simple.. one like Golu... sadly not even Ms Suhana Bose...

On a lighter note.. being from engg background.. am reminded of artifical intelligence... even they are not yet successful...to decode.. then how can we... so lets all be challenging ourselves to be like a kid...

artificial intelligence
the theory and development of computer systems able to perform tasks normally requiring human intelligence, such as visual perception, speech recognition, decision-making, and translation between languages.

emotion
Emotions and feelings are central to our life. They allow us to exist and achieve the fullness of our personality by motivating us towards that which is good. However, as a result of traumatic experiences, our emotional life can become disordered. This abnormal expression of emotion can only be understood and addressed by having an adequate understanding of how emotions work and develop within the person. This essay will seek to outline what emotions are, how they develop and how they relate to motivation and thought processes. A brief study of anxiety will seek to show how emotions can become disordered, and the ways in which emotional literacy' provides a means of addressing this problem.

PPS : Making Peace with You all.. and pls request all of you.. let's not forget we are all real people and lets try not to disrespect anyone here.. with the way you think or write...esp regarding the show...
I consider this as forum family.. hence this special long response to make my point clear and known to you all...

Love,
Sajini
Edited by sajinifaby - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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It is not that complicated also. We should not forget this story is about 3 leads. Now in fact it is on interesting turn. Cvs successfully split audience onto team Dev and team sona. It will be interesting to see how they will make dev good in sona's eyes and fall for him all over again. Villains cannot be successful till the end. Sooner or later both will learn truth and meanwhile Dev also shown learning how he hurt sonakshi badly. He will start repenting. At the end it is happy ending for sure. So we need to have patience. May be we will be disappointed with the execution or justifying the action. But sure it will be happy ending. .
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sajinifaby

Dear Prabhat,

I am a person who normally use a lot of color and font styles to make my post.. but I saw a remark about that also.. so i decided to stick on to this simple font...as to not loose any essence...and speak my sense to u...

For the first time maybe i feel so upset, that I have to disagree with you.. politely..

Too Complicated For Simple Minds?

Are we watching any thriller here? for you to decode it? we are all trying to figure out what's going on... and why I've decided to speak about.. coz i have personal experience.. and I can vouch for many things happening in the show for which I will stick on till end.. not like a mad fan.. (Although I love Shaheer) and you clearly know why...

You did mention in another post about a person whom you've met.. and that is ME... not just me.. my husband as well.. I've discussed to you about my life.. in detail.. and what many fail to understand is .. that people in normal life are not upfront and cut throat open... like a critic.. [oh well guys, dont worry.. I belong to that small %age of people who carry that image.. n
trust me.. it creates probs... and make us the faulty one for our marriages to fail... whereas there are complex partners with bad upbringings.. and they fail to reach upto the basic expectation of a marriage..

What we should say here in this case is "Dev is not marriage material, as his promises have failed miserably"

So Sona.. is termed perfect? How? coz she was trying every ounce to be part of the Dixit family, where she was not accepted.. why? have u thought about it? For complex and egoistic/insecure minds, the way you deal - which is straight forwardedness do not work..
And after almost about to complete about 10 years of marriage I have sadly realised the way I worked wasnt right... and thanks to KRPKAB... for making me realise that...

And so then was Dev correct? No.. but what do you do in life... kick your mom out as she is good for nothing.. and is causing u mess... and be out with your wife.. as she is not getting respect...? Sorry I do not consider marriage as my decision.. i believe it is God's.. and I have no right to be a reason of split... Neither the parents/family/friends/couple itself...!

"and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

It has not been easy on the couple.. with interfering parents and families causing a turmoil...as marriage is successful only when we have peaceful 2 n equal families.. which is why still in today's era.. love & love-arranged marriages are a frightening n dreadful experience for many as against arranged marriages.. GUYS its not a DEAL... to make a big deal out of everything... but we in India.. love a lot of drama... and they need to interfere in the air we breathe too... Unfortunately, this has become a big deal..!

I have loved Dadi a lot, for the positive person.. but i think.. somewhere she also became a bit selfish.. as her son was in pain.. she did not see beyond it.. and frankly that is the visual truth..

Both sides.. Ishwari/Asha are thinking about their own kids.. and their right way of life..
As you said, is yours the universal truth of what you speak? none is.. and no one except God can know what is the right way.. we are all trying to just reach somewhere in the right path.. for the goal we have all been born for... and i believe the lesser the critic we are, the better satisfied man is..!!! And this my father taught me.. which is the absolute truth...!!

What I love about the show is.. it took the risk of discovering layered shades of every relation... which we tend to ignore...and think that is not all that bad.. wherein they are the ones who are always weak.. and get stuck with more negative vibes.. they cannot understand anyone but them.. and this is a psychic disorder...

We all talk about adoption as a great and noble work.. but how many of us.. go for it? See it needs a lot of courage... and love.. which is selfless and one that keeps no expectation.. and that is the real love... the love of God.. who forgives every err.. and who love us abundantly for the simple reason.. "We are His"
When you adopt someone, we accept them with all flaws.. but when we adapt to something.. we do it by killing our expectations and sticking to the "Compromise" Tag...!!
In this whole show, if I saw someone like that.. it is Dadi... but she too let me down in the leap..
I do not want to be judgmental already.. and am waiting to see her role...and its impact in the story..

Jatin - too early to judge, but I loved the precap, where he discusses about how come you are hiding about Soha.. he is valid there.. a child has the right to meet her dad, if her dad wants her too..

To your points :

Dev is starting to talk to his mother, and letting her know what's running in her mind.. is dangerous for her and him.. and has made it all impossible for sona..and that is a virtue I see.. he has learned it real hard...
Dev in torn jeans - mayb not at work.. but again who decides what to wear n all..
I love Dev-Golu relationship.. and that is heavenly.. its not like Ms Suhana Bose n Ms Sonakshi Bose.. too complicated for me to see a mother n daughter calling each other in surnames...
Dev has started to give it back to interfering families who needs to know what is their limits in ones life...Mamaji.. Mamiji.. and Vikki...
And the goons beating Dev-Devakshi moments.. and talks b/w them.. resurfaced the face that these 2 are still not yet over and love and care for each other...

There is enough for me to love Dev... and see the changes that is visible in him post leap.. and am waiting for Sonakshi to know the real truth.. if she care to.. i will wait n watch...

1) I clearly remember how Ishwari said a dialogue to Sona in the temple, and how we all said... this lady is mad... and so rude...
"Now I want you to be a mother, to understand the bond of a mother and child..."

Sona became a mother,.. but frankly she is doing the same as Ishwari.. as long as Soha is doing what Sona loves.. she is the best bla bla.. but are we all not seeing how she is missing her father..
(So called best daughter.. forgot that her daughter in order to win the title.. is not having that share of love... which a grandpa, uncle, grandma.. cannot complete.. She is not seen even having a friend.. and can one call her normal?
A 6 year old child is so chirpy.. and its so nice to spend time with them.. we do not realise how innocently they eat our time.. but we call that quality time!!!)
Sona also fret Dev will snatch away Soha from her.. why dear? if your upbringing, and family is so great and a classic example.. why do you fear it? So she knows she is wrong here...
Ishwari have the same reasons.. she is not able to change and is trying to control every single hair strand of everyone's life..due to the fact that she is known as God to many.. and she probably has started to assume it herself...

waiting to explore how we can compare the 2 mothers, and what should be done for such insecurities to die...as dev crack a way for soha, he will know what to do with ishwari...

2) Sona is successful, in which terms?? by mocking another successful man.. serving the same way other one has offered you.. okay.. until Jatin's arrival i was under the impression, she made it on her own.. so she didn't..it was her friend.. who has helped her.. and invested in her idea... while Dev invested, she felt bad...(had made a scene) that she returned.. (if Saurabh took the money, it should have been him to return to Dev.. not ishwari..) without seeing the fact that he believes in her work...
Now lets compare this with Dev... he did it on his own.. with no help at all.. so that is being successful in career...
I being a woman, would have loved Sona to be on her own.. n come up on her own... but this.. never mind..
still not proved to me.. that she is successful.. okay she won the business woman of the year.. nice and its a great thing too.. congrats...
I like Dev.. is waiting to see.. to make it to the top is easier than to maintain the top!!! And hence it is not proven she is still successful.. to me her decision to share space with Dev.. is a very wrong move.. coz she is inviting trouble for her staff n work.. like you can see..

3) she brought back the Bose house.. indeed a joy to see it back.. a home full of memories.. but i loved that simple n open family than this one... Dixits are not over with Boses.. and Boses also not over with Dixits.. its mutual.. as everyone has kept the grudge n bitterness in their hearts..
What i loved here is the statement of Golu... katti kiya toh batti karlo.. hum yehi karte hai...
One can be shown as moved on.. only when the relevant is discussed gracefully...and am waiting for that..

4) she burnt her mangalsutra.. okay does that end a marriage legally? no talks about divorce mutual / case or pre-nuptial talked about.. so aint u waiting to c that? so i wanna see that.. then will see if Jatin can / will marry Sona.. i do certainly wanna know what will Sona do.. follow her prince charming who became like that frog prince..? or the real gentleman as they all say.. Mr Joutin...

5) She doesnt need Dev as she has a friend - great... but that again is not closed...
Her family wants her to marry Jatin.. so either that thought has to come to action.. and how Dev gracefully accepts it.. or she has to refuse the whole thing and say she is still very much in love with Dev.. and Soha needs a dad or her dad.. is still a ques.. and am waiting for that...

6) She had a fairy tale.., yes it went awful.. so she has made Soha so strong n boring.. so that she will grow up with practical minds that do not hurt her family.. and not believe in fairy tales.. as there is nothing like that in real world... so i want to see that... how is Soha shaping in her upbringing.. trying to prove what Ishwari did to Dev was wrong...

7) She does not need to be in touch with any dixits.. as she is independant, successful as Asha says.. but did we forget the li'l one Soha needs to... atleast for once... who knows this was going to be the cupid to bring back innocence n change in the screwed world they all are in...? Am waiting to see how they unfold the tale...


To think that Sona still loves Dev inspite of what you made him to be and the things that he is made to do to her, is extremely hard to digest. It is.. And seeing me with my partner.. is it not the same?

From what I understand life.. it is not simple.. it is filled with layered characters.. and God's purpose and approach is different... Sona has a beautiful family.. and normal childhood and upbringing.. And then Dev came to her life.. He needed help.. and Sona is his helpmeet... So all in all.. that reason is enough.. how things are n why should she come back to Dev...
Thru him, even Ishwari will finally be able to make peace..
And all this is a journey.. and it needs great patience...

This show is taking a toll on most of us.. and ask me about it.. guys this is a draining process... this negativity affects us.. and it is not easy to go ahead with this goal...so i request all.. to step back from deep over analysis.. n just watch.. than trouble ur minds.. due to non-familiar characters or circumstances shown...
We should thank the show for the fast pace and the character sketch.. and a bit of drama is there to sell their product in order to continue the show...(like someone mentioned)

PS : A handy reference - small glossary..
Even science cannot decode complex minds.. then who is simple...? I find only a small child simple.. one like Golu... sadly not even Ms Suhana Bose...

On a lighter note.. being from engg background.. am reminded of artifical intelligence... even they are not yet successful...to decode.. then how can we... so lets all be challenging ourselves to be like a kid...

artificial intelligence
the theory and development of computer systems able to perform tasks normally requiring human intelligence, such as visual perception, speech recognition, decision-making, and translation between languages.

emotion
Emotions and feelings are central to our life. They allow us to exist and achieve the fullness of our personality by motivating us towards that which is good. However, as a result of traumatic experiences, our emotional life can become disordered. This abnormal expression of emotion can only be understood and addressed by having an adequate understanding of how emotions work and develop within the person. This essay will seek to outline what emotions are, how they develop and how they relate to motivation and thought processes. A brief study of anxiety will seek to show how emotions can become disordered, and the ways in which emotional literacy' provides a means of addressing this problem.

PPS : Making Peace with You all.. and pls request all of you.. let's not forget we are all real people and lets try not to disrespect anyone here.. with the way you think or write...esp regarding the show...
I consider this as forum family.. hence this special long response to make my point clear and known to you all...

Love,
Sajini


Sajini, yes, you are the one that I met and I am joyed at this. You are a wonderful person for sure and a joy to interact with. I will never talk about what you have told me about yourself for that will be a breach of trust and for me trust matters a lot.

I respect our views dear, but what is there to disagree with after reading your post? You are adding some of your views to it and it is fine by me.

I can write one line or hundred.. the point is be respectful and put up with the alternate view too, neutral, negative or positive. We are all investing our time in the show and are entitled to determine what does and what doesn't touch our hearts.

Finally, you cannot take one line of a post and blow it out of proportion for convenience. Even if you feel you had to, I would have appreciated that you would take note of asking someone, like someone just did, to examine his or her life based on comments on a fictional show! A ridiculous statement!

I am always at peace dear, even in real life. You have seen me. If I did not have this peace, the peace that comes from GOD, I would have withered away long ago. I have lived with the worst of people in real life, in business, in personal networks, what is cyber world.

Thanks and take care..

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Originally posted by: JyotiBThakur

And i beg to disagree on a lot of things said over here. With all due respect sir.

From where i am looking into it there's no 1.0 or 2.0... The characters are still the same. They are Dev and Sonakshi. The pain, hurt and struggles of all these years have definitely brought some changes in them. But they are the same people.

Talking about the love gone... Respect gone... Faith and Trust gone... The leap has just been taken and we have not yet been introduced to all the major characters yet. It's very early to decide what's all is gone and what's still remaining.

But if you feel it's all gone... In the recent episodes what i felt is, Love is still there underneath the hatred mask. Respect... from what i look into some of the scenes it is still there but again, they are trying hard to not let the mask slip infront of each other or the world, but the feeling do come in fore unknowingly sometimes. Faith and Trust (I think the earthquake and the goons incidence already proved, it's still there.)

And why would Sona fall in love with Dev again is for us to wait and watch... Falling in love again happens when you fall out of love with that person. But that is not the case with either Dev or Sona. I know many people may not agree with me on this. But this is my POV.

7 Years of separation, hurt, pain, struggle all this is enough for the anger to build with leaps and bounds... And that is what has happened with them. I don't consider them perfect human beings to not get angry, to always behave sane. Sona should always be respectful. Dev should not do this or do that... Nobody does that. I personally, when angry not always think before i act. Sometimes i really do stupidity in anger and then these are the fictional characters and not real people.

I agree Sona must have achieved everything, but that doesn't mean nothing is left. There's a lot to come.

And why is only 7 Year and not 18...!!! It could have been said in the case of a 18 years leap too. Why such a long leap and trust me at that time Sona would have been considered the most cunning woman, as she has hidden it for long 18 years, so that at the end of it, Soha will be given the right to decide and she'll select her mother, once Dev claims for her custody.


And Sona is not expecting Dev to come on his knees and beg for her forgiveness. Neither is she trying to act Mahaan... Both of them are not Mahaan.

And whether Sona still loves Dev or will again fall for him is for her to decide... There separation happened on a bitter note, but they do know the major cause of it... They are aware, that neither of them wanted to go separate ways. But that did happen. And when the major cause of separation of 2 people is not them but the 3rd parties, they are bound to have a feeling, that they could have been together, if the unfortunate things didn't happen. And Dev-Sona too think the same way is what i think from some of their dialogues.

Dev to Golu: Toh Katti Karni Hi Kyu Thi? Jeevan bhar saath dene ka vaada kiya tha.

Sona to Dev: Mujhe driving seekhne ki zarurat nahi padegi... Kyuki mujhe laga tum hamesha mere sath rahoge. Mujhe nahi pata tha ke hum...!!!

The Cvs has a story to tell and they are building up the base. We as viewers may like it or not, but i guess they know what they are doing.


For the TM: Sir i have seen in your reply to Mayu that you have written about the font size and color. I always use colors and sometimes bigger font in my posts and replies, but will not do it here. I don't mean to disrespect you in any which way. And i want to be frank here... Sir i really didn't expect you to write something like "stoop to your level" for a fellow forum member. I was actually taken aback with these words specially.

P.S: First of all, i would like to ask some questions to my fellow forum members. Why on earth if people have different set of thinking than you, you call them childish and not ready to understand. Guys... No 2 people are alike. If you have the right to criticize, others do have the right to put forward their POV, if they don't agree to you. Why always think you are being targeted.

Posts are being made and when people disagree, why are they been criticized of being biased and blind. You have a different set of thinking, learn to respect the others too.

P.S.S: I have seen after each and every episodes the only posts in the forum are about criticizing the central characters. Bashing the 2 characters. Where she has gone wrong or where he has gone wrong. I always wonder, post leap, 2 supercute kids have been introduced. We get some lighthearted and beautiful scenes of them, but they are hardly been discussed about. And if you would like to point out why i don't make efforts to make such posts. To let you all know, i am rarely visiting the forum these days. Firstly my health is not allowing me to do so and secondly lots and lots of things have changed.


Jyothi. Appreciate your views and respect that. However if you think you can take one line of my post and blow it out of proportion, I leave it your judgement. Read my first reply to that vicious first comment. I was gracious to tell the commenter that my views do not matter. You cannot, I repeat cannot isolate, one line from the whole message. The deeply personal comments are made to examine my life. Now you chose which one is more offensive. The colour part, even if taken in isolation, or the examine your life, taken in isolation or whole.

Just as much a as you are shocked, I am even more. This is not a friendly world or forum anymore. That is why I have stopped commenting on most posts and do not even read many. It is the most sane thing to do.

I never get personal just as I have noticed that you do not. It is a great thing to draw lines.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Dear sajini. .. tum to poori kind poori dev team pe ho. 😆

But I would like to ask you something. As you said husband and wife relation made by god. I agree on that. But God never said only wife should understand and wife should follow or respect husband blindly. It is equal responsibility of husband as well to make marriage successful. I think sona had contributed enough to her relationship. Now it is dev turn to understand her and woo her back and give her all due respect.


Originally posted by: sajinifaby

Dear Prabhat,

I am a person who normally use a lot of color and font styles to make my post.. but I saw a remark about that also.. so i decided to stick on to this simple font...as to not loose any essence...and speak my sense to u...

For the first time maybe i feel so upset, that I have to disagree with you.. politely..

Too Complicated For Simple Minds?

Are we watching any thriller here? for you to decode it? we are all trying to figure out what's going on... and why I've decided to speak about.. coz i have personal experience.. and I can vouch for many things happening in the show for which I will stick on till end.. not like a mad fan.. (Although I love Shaheer) and you clearly know why...

You did mention in another post about a person whom you've met.. and that is ME... not just me.. my husband as well.. I've discussed to you about my life.. in detail.. and what many fail to understand is .. that people in normal life are not upfront and cut throat open... like a critic.. [oh well guys, dont worry.. I belong to that small %age of people who carry that image.. n
trust me.. it creates probs... and make us the faulty one for our marriages to fail... whereas there are complex partners with bad upbringings.. and they fail to reach upto the basic expectation of a marriage..

What we should say here in this case is "Dev is not marriage material, as his promises have failed miserably"

So Sona.. is termed perfect? How? coz she was trying every ounce to be part of the Dixit family, where she was not accepted.. why? have u thought about it? For complex and egoistic/insecure minds, the way you deal - which is straight forwardedness do not work..
And after almost about to complete about 10 years of marriage I have sadly realised the way I worked wasnt right... and thanks to KRPKAB... for making me realise that...

And so then was Dev correct? No.. but what do you do in life... kick your mom out as she is good for nothing.. and is causing u mess... and be out with your wife.. as she is not getting respect...? Sorry I do not consider marriage as my decision.. i believe it is God's.. and I have no right to be a reason of split... Neither the parents/family/friends/couple itself...!

"and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

It has not been easy on the couple.. with interfering parents and families causing a turmoil...as marriage is successful only when we have peaceful 2 n equal families.. which is why still in today's era.. love & love-arranged marriages are a frightening n dreadful experience for many as against arranged marriages.. GUYS its not a DEAL... to make a big deal out of everything... but we in India.. love a lot of drama... and they need to interfere in the air we breathe too... Unfortunately, this has become a big deal..!

I have loved Dadi a lot, for the positive person.. but i think.. somewhere she also became a bit selfish.. as her son was in pain.. she did not see beyond it.. and frankly that is the visual truth..

Both sides.. Ishwari/Asha are thinking about their own kids.. and their right way of life..
As you said, is yours the universal truth of what you speak? none is.. and no one except God can know what is the right way.. we are all trying to just reach somewhere in the right path.. for the goal we have all been born for... and i believe the lesser the critic we are, the better satisfied man is..!!! And this my father taught me.. which is the absolute truth...!!

What I love about the show is.. it took the risk of discovering layered shades of every relation... which we tend to ignore...and think that is not all that bad.. wherein they are the ones who are always weak.. and get stuck with more negative vibes.. they cannot understand anyone but them.. and this is a psychic disorder...

We all talk about adoption as a great and noble work.. but how many of us.. go for it? See it needs a lot of courage... and love.. which is selfless and one that keeps no expectation.. and that is the real love... the love of God.. who forgives every err.. and who love us abundantly for the simple reason.. "We are His"
When you adopt someone, we accept them with all flaws.. but when we adapt to something.. we do it by killing our expectations and sticking to the "Compromise" Tag...!!
In this whole show, if I saw someone like that.. it is Dadi... but she too let me down in the leap..
I do not want to be judgmental already.. and am waiting to see her role...and its impact in the story..

Jatin - too early to judge, but I loved the precap, where he discusses about how come you are hiding about Soha.. he is valid there.. a child has the right to meet her dad, if her dad wants her too..

To your points :

Dev is starting to talk to his mother, and letting her know what's running in her mind.. is dangerous for her and him.. and has made it all impossible for sona..and that is a virtue I see.. he has learned it real hard...
Dev in torn jeans - mayb not at work.. but again who decides what to wear n all..
I love Dev-Golu relationship.. and that is heavenly.. its not like Ms Suhana Bose n Ms Sonakshi Bose.. too complicated for me to see a mother n daughter calling each other in surnames...
Dev has started to give it back to interfering families who needs to know what is their limits in ones life...Mamaji.. Mamiji.. and Vikki...
And the goons beating Dev-Devakshi moments.. and talks b/w them.. resurfaced the face that these 2 are still not yet over and love and care for each other...

There is enough for me to love Dev... and see the changes that is visible in him post leap.. and am waiting for Sonakshi to know the real truth.. if she care to.. i will wait n watch...

1) I clearly remember how Ishwari said a dialogue to Sona in the temple, and how we all said... this lady is mad... and so rude...
"Now I want you to be a mother, to understand the bond of a mother and child..."

Sona became a mother,.. but frankly she is doing the same as Ishwari.. as long as Soha is doing what Sona loves.. she is the best bla bla.. but are we all not seeing how she is missing her father..
(So called best daughter.. forgot that her daughter in order to win the title.. is not having that share of love... which a grandpa, uncle, grandma.. cannot complete.. She is not seen even having a friend.. and can one call her normal?
A 6 year old child is so chirpy.. and its so nice to spend time with them.. we do not realise how innocently they eat our time.. but we call that quality time!!!)
Sona also fret Dev will snatch away Soha from her.. why dear? if your upbringing, and family is so great and a classic example.. why do you fear it? So she knows she is wrong here...
Ishwari have the same reasons.. she is not able to change and is trying to control every single hair strand of everyone's life..due to the fact that she is known as God to many.. and she probably has started to assume it herself...

waiting to explore how we can compare the 2 mothers, and what should be done for such insecurities to die...as dev crack a way for soha, he will know what to do with ishwari...

2) Sona is successful, in which terms?? by mocking another successful man.. serving the same way other one has offered you.. okay.. until Jatin's arrival i was under the impression, she made it on her own.. so she didn't..it was her friend.. who has helped her.. and invested in her idea... while Dev invested, she felt bad...(had made a scene) that she returned.. (if Saurabh took the money, it should have been him to return to Dev.. not ishwari..) without seeing the fact that he believes in her work...
Now lets compare this with Dev... he did it on his own.. with no help at all.. so that is being successful in career...
I being a woman, would have loved Sona to be on her own.. n come up on her own... but this.. never mind..
still not proved to me.. that she is successful.. okay she won the business woman of the year.. nice and its a great thing too.. congrats...
I like Dev.. is waiting to see.. to make it to the top is easier than to maintain the top!!! And hence it is not proven she is still successful.. to me her decision to share space with Dev.. is a very wrong move.. coz she is inviting trouble for her staff n work.. like you can see..

3) she brought back the Bose house.. indeed a joy to see it back.. a home full of memories.. but i loved that simple n open family than this one... Dixits are not over with Boses.. and Boses also not over with Dixits.. its mutual.. as everyone has kept the grudge n bitterness in their hearts..
What i loved here is the statement of Golu... katti kiya toh batti karlo.. hum yehi karte hai...
One can be shown as moved on.. only when the relevant is discussed gracefully...and am waiting for that..

4) she burnt her mangalsutra.. okay does that end a marriage legally? no talks about divorce mutual / case or pre-nuptial talked about.. so aint u waiting to c that? so i wanna see that.. then will see if Jatin can / will marry Sona.. i do certainly wanna know what will Sona do.. follow her prince charming who became like that frog prince..? or the real gentleman as they all say.. Mr Joutin...

5) She doesnt need Dev as she has a friend - great... but that again is not closed...
Her family wants her to marry Jatin.. so either that thought has to come to action.. and how Dev gracefully accepts it.. or she has to refuse the whole thing and say she is still very much in love with Dev.. and Soha needs a dad or her dad.. is still a ques.. and am waiting for that...

6) She had a fairy tale.., yes it went awful.. so she has made Soha so strong n boring.. so that she will grow up with practical minds that do not hurt her family.. and not believe in fairy tales.. as there is nothing like that in real world... so i want to see that... how is Soha shaping in her upbringing.. trying to prove what Ishwari did to Dev was wrong...

7) She does not need to be in touch with any dixits.. as she is independant, successful as Asha says.. but did we forget the li'l one Soha needs to... atleast for once... who knows this was going to be the cupid to bring back innocence n change in the screwed world they all are in...? Am waiting to see how they unfold the tale...


To think that Sona still loves Dev inspite of what you made him to be and the things that he is made to do to her, is extremely hard to digest. It is.. And seeing me with my partner.. is it not the same?

From what I understand life.. it is not simple.. it is filled with layered characters.. and God's purpose and approach is different... Sona has a beautiful family.. and normal childhood and upbringing.. And then Dev came to her life.. He needed help.. and Sona is his helpmeet... So all in all.. that reason is enough.. how things are n why should she come back to Dev...
Thru him, even Ishwari will finally be able to make peace..
And all this is a journey.. and it needs great patience...

This show is taking a toll on most of us.. and ask me about it.. guys this is a draining process... this negativity affects us.. and it is not easy to go ahead with this goal...so i request all.. to step back from deep over analysis.. n just watch.. than trouble ur minds.. due to non-familiar characters or circumstances shown...
We should thank the show for the fast pace and the character sketch.. and a bit of drama is there to sell their product in order to continue the show...(like someone mentioned)

PS : A handy reference - small glossary..
Even science cannot decode complex minds.. then who is simple...? I find only a small child simple.. one like Golu... sadly not even Ms Suhana Bose...

On a lighter note.. being from engg background.. am reminded of artifical intelligence... even they are not yet successful...to decode.. then how can we... so lets all be challenging ourselves to be like a kid...

artificial intelligence
the theory and development of computer systems able to perform tasks normally requiring human intelligence, such as visual perception, speech recognition, decision-making, and translation between languages.

emotion
Emotions and feelings are central to our life. They allow us to exist and achieve the fullness of our personality by motivating us towards that which is good. However, as a result of traumatic experiences, our emotional life can become disordered. This abnormal expression of emotion can only be understood and addressed by having an adequate understanding of how emotions work and develop within the person. This essay will seek to outline what emotions are, how they develop and how they relate to motivation and thought processes. A brief study of anxiety will seek to show how emotions can become disordered, and the ways in which emotional literacy' provides a means of addressing this problem.

PPS : Making Peace with You all.. and pls request all of you.. let's not forget we are all real people and lets try not to disrespect anyone here.. with the way you think or write...esp regarding the show...
I consider this as forum family.. hence this special long response to make my point clear and known to you all...

Love,
Sajini

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Mr Das accept my apologies that your post got ruined. I have many things to say but I think we both agree this is not the place anymore. Hopefully I will see you posting in this forum afterwards.

A beautiful post. Very articulate as always👏



People forget that so called negativity, criticism of mood ruined of forum happens when despite one section not always talking well about show, care about it nonetheless. Check other serial forums, see how dead they are. When other people don't go inside your posts and ruin "mood" why you felt the need to moral police the so called hate brigade? Then have the audacity to arrive with herd and spam it.
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Originally posted by: sia.krpkab

Dear Mayu, Jyoti, sappushivu and others.. as a fellow Forum member I would like to clarify that Mr. Das, Tia, Pehchaan.Kaun, gemini54, Doctor and myself and many other silent and non-silent members have been keen watchers of the show and are also analytical with free flow of emotions - positive, negative and neutral in varying degrees.

This is a medium of expression for everyone of us - and yes many of us are disappointed with the way the show has been dealt with. We can be termed negative too, its a free world and we are fine to be judged upon it. In fact sometimes we don't agree with each others' views as well.

In the end its each to his own. I loved Mr.Das's post and in case you didn't, can I suggest you to refrain from posting henceforth, because it causes more chaos and friction in this fiction.

From my side, I promise that I will not comment or spoil your post if I have clashing views. Everyone commands space in this Forum and lets honor it and leave it at that thought.


Thank you sia. This is exactly what I do and never get into a slanging match with anyone. I have stopped viewing or commenting on something I do not like. Life is easier that way. In fact I am disappointed that the original thread has got lost in the diversion melee. It is unfortunate that people just barge into posts that they do not agree with and cause a lot of bad blood and friction that was not meant to be in the first place.

If the intent of these diversions is to silence folks like me , let me tell you it will be a miserable failure because I ain't stopping for anyone. Like it or leave it. I will continue to write about what touches or does not touch me.



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Originally posted by: .Avengers.

Mr Das accept my apologies that your post got ruined. I have many things to say but I think we both agree this is not the place anymore. Hopefully I will see you posting in this forum afterwards.

A beautiful post. Very articulate as always👏



People forget that so called negativity, criticism of mood ruined of forum happens when despite one section not always talking well about show, care about it nonetheless. Check other serial forums, see how dead they are. When other people don't go inside your posts and ruin "mood" why you felt the need to moral police the so called hate brigade? Then have the audacity to arrive with herd and spam it.



Hey, you can't say that this is not the place anymore - You are an Avenger! Stay true to your name 😊
We might sound negative but we care; the idea is not express and not impress; so what even if it is negative. The forum belongs to each one of us and we all will exercise and express what we feel.
Mr Das and everyone who is even remotely disappointed in the show, please ignore the posts that miss your/ our point, and continue with the discussions. Love your posts and honestly I keep coming back because of like minded people like yourself.

on a lighter note, Mr Das your post is running into double digits in pages.. it is a super hit! Bingo!



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