Too Complicated For Simple Minds!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Dear CV's -

It was a relatively free weekend. I read a lot of posts / comments ( including mine) and thinking about the show. i have concluded that the show has reached a stage of no-return. The show is now very one sided, game, set and match in favor of Sona and the Boses. I sincerely wish you had shown more virtues in Dev V2.0 rather than only cheap things. Dev himself has been portrayed to be the casanova, carefree, reckless, drunkard, insensitive, disrespectful, arrogant, jealous type. The audience does not have a single virtue to talk of in favor of Dev or the Dixits. He is not only the villain-de-piece, but the perennial culprit for all that has gone wrong in Sona's life. This being the case, i am still wondering as to what Sona expects from Dev now or what does she expect to show Dev now. There is really nothing left, is it? .

Love? gone! Respect? gone! faith and trust? long gone! There is no way i can see Sona loving Dev. Here is what is...

1. She could become a mother and a good one at that - Proven
2. She is successful. proven
3. She bought back the Bose house. Proven
4. She burnt her mangalsutra. She cannot be considered married, i suppose. She is free to get married again, if she chooses - Closed
5. She does not need Dev in her life. She got a friend who stood by her. Closed.
6. She had a fairy tale love story (different thing that it went awry over time). Closed
7. She does not need to have a relationship with any of the Dixits, even her cousin Elena . Closed

So what more does she want? There are more questions than answers..

1. Why 7 years? if she could wait 7 years, she could as well as waited for 18 years for Soha to become an adult and able to chose of her own volition! why now?
2. what does she expect from Dev now? to show that she is "kind" enough to show him his daughter and doing him a favor? She is already Mahaan.. how much more mahaan does she want to be?
3. Does she want Dev to come crawling on his knees to beg forgiveness of her? He is already in the pits, how much more does she want him to go? Then what? will she remarry him just for that and forget all that he made her go through? The show is now bordering on the ridiculous!

To think that Sona still loves Dev inspite of what you made him to be and the things that he is made to do to her, is extremely hard to digest. At least in Dev 1.0 he was shown to have some precious virtues that attracted him to Sona. In V2.0, the only virtue, if it can be called one, is the way he treats ishwari, and his carefree life. Sorry CV's. but if this is the Dev she will fall for again, or wanted, then what is the difference between Neha and Sona? (neha too wanted Ranbir to be independent of his family!). So either way, you guys have dug yourselves a deep black hole. You have needlessly made the show far too complicated to be understood by simple minds... Sad end to a great, great, start..



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Posted: 8 years ago
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You have made very valid points Sir.
To be honest, some of the post leap episodes were well written and were loved by audience including me.. But even after this, I still somewhere feel that this show did not require leap at all.. Of course, we all have accepted the leap, but I feel the story would have been brilliant had they continued with the separation and not leap..

As for Dev, there's one improvement in him that we all like.. That he no longer falls for his mother's emotional blackmail.. He has become a different person.. That's a good point... But still, even after this improvement, I don't see a reason why Dev and Sona should reunite again..

As you said, there would be no difference between this and Neha's case.. I am still in doubt whether they will show any proper redemption and realization of Dev's love or just do it in a flash..😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think CVs have done a pretty good job in creating rival camps Team Dev n Team Sona. N they are doing everything possible to hate one character in order to defend the other. It has become very difficult to become neutral these days with so much negativity in the show and in social media

You feel show has become one sided in favour of Sona but let me show you how the other side feels -

1. Sona has become arrongant and rude post leap. Her anger n mean words towards Dev has also been termed bitchy
2. She never really loved Dev n never understood his POV whereas Dev's love was selfless n unconditional
3. She complained abt being outsider in Dev's house but never confided anything abt Bose fam to Dev
4. Dev was so worried in S1 Sona's accident scene but Sona didn't even shed one tear for Dev post goons attack.She is that cold and indifferent now
5. Sona was the sole reason of separation. She left Dev even when he chose Sona over his family
6. Returning that 5cr was not bcoz of family's self respect but bcoz of her ego. She was wrong in returning that money
7. Dev was right to tell her Get out bcoz she held his collar infront of his family
8. She accused him of everything going wrong in their marriage
9. She didn't trust Dev n believed only Vicky
10. She hid Soha from Dev for her selfish reasons, to punish Dev
11. Sona should have realised that all those harsh words Dev said was bcoz he was angry n hurt..how can she believe those words
12. Sona's parenting has been questioned...she can't even see how much Soha miss her Dad. Soha is so boring n unhappy bcoz of Sona's parenting
13. Sona badmouths Dev infront of Soha
14. She neglects Soha and is only worried about her business n insulting Dev
15. Sona never stops Bijoy from badmouthing Dev
16. She was so desperate to become a good bahu that she never tried to become good wife n hence the separation
17. She acts just like Bijoy...hot headed irrational
18. She is just like Ishwari...insecure
19. Sona mocks abt Dev's business n achievements
20. She calls Dev mumma's boy n spineless
21. She shud be blamed for trying to help out Ish in kitchen or managing Dev's wardrobe - this resulted in Ish's insecurities
22. She put that ghastly jhula in room n didn't remove it even after Dev got hurt
23. She moved on...earlier also she was ready to get married to Rithwik n now happy with Jatin
24. Sona became successful only bcoz of Dev's harsh words motivated her

N the list continues...
So maybe Dev n Sona are actually on a level playing field n they truly deserve each other.


Edited by randommusings - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with both Mr. Das and Randomramblings. What CVs have done is that they created two completely opposite spectrum of characters who somewhat behave against their original nature around each other and expect us to believe that.

Dev was considerate and loving - Who behaves like an inconsiderate husband who can't even see his wife's suffering.

Sonakshi was confident, straight shooter - Who becomes a complete doormat who was willing to have a baby to gain approval of her mother-in-law who made it clear that she is nothing more than a means to an end.

How? Why?

But that's what is being showed.
Edited by tia.o - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I feel you, Mr. Das. I was amongst one of the many angry KRPKAB fans to dump the show when they announced this leap thing. But came back to the show for the love of Shaheer and Erica.
Post leap, both Dev and Sona have changed a lot - and at least for now, what I see is that CVs are probably highlighting their role reversal. I wrote this in another post and repeating it now.

I always held the view that sona was always right until yesterday. But no, she had hher flaws which need introspection. Everything in life is so overrated. Pride, self respect, ego, love everything takes a backseat with time. After 7 years of separation, both Dev and Sona are incomplete and their daughter is devoid of her father's love. Had they communicated, Sona would have pulled strings and not become a scapegoat in the hands of toxic Dixits, their married life would have turned into a bliss.

In the end, Dev lost everything because of his flaws and one person who could have lifted him from his misfortune left him and started off afresh. I fail to understand what kept Dev reaching out to Sona in all these years - itna kya gussa, he is a fuss pot, that's it. He learnt the hard way which has changed him fundamentally.

Sona should now share Soha with Dev - enough of staying separate. Reconcile and share love, away from Dixits and Boses! Wonder how that will happen.

But I also feel that Sona is over Dev and her love or romance is nonexistent. May be when a woman becomes a mother, wife or romance takes a backseat. And in Sona's case, her Dev died when soha was born.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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I honestly feel that the makers and writers have failed to understand the audience of this show.
From what I have understood there are a few types of viewers of this show:
1. People who were attracted by the simplicity and freshness of this story
2. People who watch the show for the leads regardless of the actual story
3. People who watch to analyze the nuances of the dialogs and scenes hoping for a great story
4. People who watch just for all the tashan and romance and to some extent now in season 2 the "girl power" of Sona, regardless of how illogical it is or how ridiculously out of the realm of reality the situations are, or how it takes away from the actual story.

I really hope that the makers visit this forum to read the threads that show them that there are far more people in groups 1,2,3 than there are in group 4.
I feel however that they pay more attention to the people on twitter who seem to be praising the show and in my opinion appear to belong more to group 4 than the other 3 groups. I dont believe group 4 is a large part of their actual audience/viewership they are just more vocal on a more visible platform.
I have seen people who bring up valid complaints about the story on twitter being shutdown in the most brutal of ways.

The shows trp will never be above 0.7 regardless of what they do so I wish they would just get on with telling the story they intended to or gracefully end it. This show was never meant to be a trp star because I really do believe it was aired at the wrong time slot and was pitted against the wrong type of shows on the other channels.

Also it bothers me that people seem to think taunting, screaming in public and in front of their employees is seen as entertaining tashan ... Isn't this just saas-Bahutu drama of the new generation where the leads fight over really petty issues in very public ways? Season 1 also had tashan between the leads but it was far more subtle and added to the story, the season 2 tashan is just noise to me and doesn't move the story forward.

Also, and this is only my opinion I dont believe what Sona is doing represents girl power or feminism, she is being dramatic for drama. Girl power and feminism does not mean stooping to the other persons level it means rising above and proving your worth through your actions and accomplishments.

Edited: I felt that the writers had a plot twist but seem to be taking too long to introduce it

Edited by sproutbean8 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Only thing that could make Sona fall for him again is if He shows how good a father he can be for Soha and also if he admits himself in Bose house for rehab.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I'll wait for the answers in the show .
There must be a reason for what they are showing.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I also agree with Mr. Das --- this is the show leading to NOWHERE.
I see Sona Camps and Dev Camps.. but there is more than that:

1 ) the girl who gave up everything to please her MIL bcos she loved her husband so much
2 ) The guy who doted on her --- watched her suffer; but could not choose between the women in his life.

Then the negativity that consumed the show --- which led to many of us leaving ... We thought the LEAP would help. But --- as many of you say rightly,

a) HE is the womanizer, Casanova --- learnt to stand up to his mom when it was too late. And does he really???? Is he just being vengeful - or will he stand up against her when it comes to a potential second chance? Will have to wait and see

2) SHE has become the stronger one - because she has the love of her family and her daughter and good friends... she derives her strength from it. Just because she doesn't cry doesn't mean she doesn't FEEL. I beg to differ on that point. She was concerned for him out of love. She had his child and raised her...

You may hurt and can't forgive --- but you don't erase the memories.

BUT NOW WHAT????!!!!

a) Dev can be shown as the "wonderful" dad - sure
b) Sona remains a great mom

THEN????????

a) MIL realizes ---- now she has 2 BOSE women to compete with ??? OMG :)
b) Vicky and CO --- oh no! Now theres a daughter
c) GOLU will feel jealous? Or accept SOHA?

ANY WHICH WAY - there is little room for a plausible way to get them to reconcile! And I wonder - maybe this is about HAPPILY EVEr AFTER just NOT together!

If the Twitter Forum seems more "in" --- maybe we need to send tweets on key forum views. Thanks Mr. Das --- this Sunday AM seems like sadder :) :) though







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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Random Musings --- I am not in one camp or another, but I found some of your points somewhat off the mark. Each of us is entitled to our views, ofcourse. But Your may points left me wondering so I am taking ht liberty to provide a counterpoint.


Originally posted by: randommusings

I think CVs have done a pretty good job in creating rival camps Team Dev n Team Sona. N they are doing everything possible to hate one character in order to defend the other. It has become very difficult to become neutral these days with so much negativity in the show and in social media


You feel show has become one sided in favour of Sona but let me show you how the other side feels -

1. Sona has become arrongant and rude post leap. Her anger n mean words towards Dev has also been termed bitchy
2. She never really loved Dev n never understood his POV whereas Dev's love was selfless n unconditional

3. She complained abt being outsider in Dev's house but never confided anything abt Bose fam to Dev
>>> Not needed. He could never even call her mom -- mom bcos his mom went nuts. So relax - Bose family didn't need a son - a good son in Law was enough

4. Dev was so worried in S1 Sona's accident scene but Sona didn't even shed one tear for Dev post goons attack.She is that cold and indifferent now
>> Some people cry --- if tears were a measure, ISh should take the cake!


5. Sona was the sole reason of separation. She left Dev even when he chose Sona over his family
>> Could be construed as too little too late

6. Returning that 5cr was not bcoz of family's self respect but bcoz of her ego. She was wrong in returning that money

7. Dev was right to tell her Get out bcoz she held his collar infront of his family
>>> Really? And he can walk all over and slap her dad.

8. She accused him of everything going wrong in their marriage
>>> People say things when they are mad --- he said plenty too. See your own point 11.
11. Sona should have realised that all those harsh words Dev said was bcoz he was angry n hurt..how can she believe those words


9. She didn't trust Dev n believed only Vicky
>>> He didn't believe her over his mom

10. She hid Soha from Dev for her selfish reasons, to punish Dev
>>> I wouldn't be so quick to judge that!

12. Sona's parenting has been questioned...she can't even see how much Soha miss her Dad. Soha is so boring n unhappy bcoz of Sona's parenting
>>> I think she's an interesting character who was mis-casted. Bad acting doesn't equal boring!

13. Sona badmouths Dev infront of Soha
>>> Seriously? She said he is a nice guy - can be rude but nice.

14. She neglects Soha and is only worried about her business n insulting Dev
>>> Wow! women work --- working women doesn't mean neglect

15. Sona never stops Bijoy from badmouthing Dev
>>> So? At least he doesn't do it day in and out - in their family, and their view. At least he's not poisoning ht kids mind!

16. She was so desperate to become a good bahu that she never tried to become good wife n hence the separation
>>> Seriously... same could be said fir him. So busy being good son.. The point is why? She did it for him

17. She acts just like Bijoy...hot headed irrational
>>> Hes not calm cool and collected either

18. She is just like Ishwari...insecure
>>> Everyone has insecurities. Issue is whether you use that to blame others

19. Sona mocks abt Dev's business n achievements
>>> And he about her being a nutritionist

20. She calls Dev mumma's boy n spineless
Which was true

21. She shud be blamed for trying to help out Ish in kitchen or managing Dev's wardrobe - this resulted in Ish's insecurities
>>> :) I wonder :) really? Its her house, her husband and also her kitchen.

22. She put that ghastly jhula in room n didn't remove it even after Dev got hurt
:) He didn't kick his mom out after he hurt her many times, now did he?

23. She moved on...earlier also she was ready to get married to Rithwik n now happy with Jatin
So? At least she was serious - not flirting away

24. Sona became successful only bcoz of Dev's harsh words motivated her
GOOD for her!


N the list continues...
So maybe Dev n Sona are actually on a level playing field n they truly deserve each other.




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