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Posted: 8 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: mayu1982



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Posted: 8 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: randomramblings

hi Friends,

i am not sure how many of you would agree to my post, but i will still go ahead.

Dasji, the reason we loved dev is season 1 was because he tried to follow /match up to the general expectations of the society. he was a good son( no doubt about it, ideal like RAM who did not think twice about his needs) a good brother, a good boss. but what made us hate him was this goodness was at the expense of being insensitive towards his better half, his extended family due to marriage and his inability to take a stance when it was needed.

same with sona, she was an ideal daughter, a reliable sister, a trusted friend, and an ever adjusting DIL/wife but at what expense, he was slowly losing her self. she was not ready for this metamorphosis and there was a fight between between her beliefs and her actions.

This show is about placing yourself at the other end, and then analyze. i know being woman many of us will not agree with the way sona was treated and will blame dev for all her sufferings from season 1. but being in his shoes, do you really feel if dev was not the same, will there be any difference in the attitudes of ishwari or GKB? I dont this so, this is what season 2 is portraying.
he is not longer "chanting the maa jaap", giving it back to GKB when it is due but do you see any change in their attitude towards sona ever after she has risen to the same financial level as them. not really right, so basically the point here is irrespective of the behaviour of Dev, the actions/words of GKB and ishwari would not have changed towards sona. she will forever remain an outcast, a easy prey, a person to be blamed for all the mishaps.

sona too has become more strong, independent, more confident and above all she is no longer willing to mould herself to meet the standards of the society, rather she is willing to break free from the mould. but is she being accepted./ appreciated . not really . she is still being blamed, she is still facing sufferings and mockery.
so essentially what should have changed for their marriage to have worked ? where is the flaw?

the only flaw was they had expectations from each other based on the nature of the other person and not based on their own requirements. sona saw dev to be a true lover and expected him to stand by her in all her endeavors, but she never really reflected if this is what was needed for herself. i mean does she really need dev for her survival? will she stop loving him if he does not match her expectations. the biggest answer is NO. sona will still continue to love dev and yearn for him inspite of him not matching any of her expectations because when we are soulmates, the material world /needs/wants no longer matter. all we see is the peace and tranquility that we find in their company.

same with dev, he knew he cannot survive without her, but did he put in efforts to make her feel wanted. the biggest answer is NO again. all his actions all show that she was not a fundamental requirement for his life while in reality he cannot even breathe without her. he finds solace only in her presence and yet he does not acknowledge it.



Wonderful point of view and a pleasure to read. But I still think all this analysis will hold water only if they show tangible changes in both, like what sia said.



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Posted: 8 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: sia.krpkab



Tell me about it.. I came to this forum just around their first breakup period and have a deep connection to the show when I narrated my failed love story. Only one thing saves the current Dev 2.0 for me - he is out of his mother's manipulations and clutches of self-inflicted pain and guilt now.
Humility in this guy made him weak, unfortunately. I like his arrogance and badass attitude - but with Sona, it seems very cocky. That needs to change soonest.
2 more weeks - and I wish Dev and Sona change for good!




Could not agree more! Let us see...

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Posted: 8 years ago
#54
The show had a really good plot with pre nuptials... sona can't become mother , Neha' character and mami Vicky being antagonist!!!

Neha thing completely drained ... they made Vicky the villain ... and the husband-wife-mother fight so ghastly !!!

All good things just went off !! And a leap came !!

The show keeps me coming back is because of the artists of the show !!

Now this leap has got in one sided in a way or other ... with the Dixit household is shown completely illogical and like a dried garden !!!

To get the momentum back ... this child has to be the Cupid . Dev - Sona should at a point realize that a third force destroyed their life ... and the parents give a gap n space to children to grow !!!

Simply showing the dirty fights ... drinking .. jealous are beating the bush around !!!

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Posted: 8 years ago
#55
And i beg to disagree on a lot of things said over here. With all due respect sir.
From where i am looking into it there's no 1.0 or 2.0... The characters are still the same. They are Dev and Sonakshi. The pain, hurt and struggles of all these years have definitely brought some changes in them. But they are the same people.

Talking about the love gone... Respect gone... Faith and Trust gone... The leap has just been taken and we have not yet been introduced to all the major characters yet. It's very early to decide what's all is gone and what's still remaining.

But if you feel it's all gone... In the recent episodes what i felt is, Love is still there underneath the hatred mask. Respect... from what i look into some of the scenes it is still there but again, they are trying hard to not let the mask slip infront of each other or the world, but the feeling do come in fore unknowingly sometimes. Faith and Trust (I think the earthquake and the goons incidence already proved, it's still there.)

And why would Sona fall in love with Dev again is for us to wait and watch... Falling in love again happens when you fall out of love with that person. But that is not the case with either Dev or Sona. I know many people may not agree with me on this. But this is my POV.

7 Years of separation, hurt, pain, struggle all this is enough for the anger to build with leaps and bounds... And that is what has happened with them. I don't consider them perfect human beings to not get angry, to always behave sane. Sona should always be respectful. Dev should not do this or do that... Nobody does that. I personally, when angry not always think before i act. Sometimes i really do stupidity in anger and then these are the fictional characters and not real people.

I agree Sona must have achieved everything, but that doesn't mean nothing is left. There's a lot to come.

And why is only 7 Year and not 18...!!! It could have been said in the case of a 18 years leap too. Why such a long leap and trust me at that time Sona would have been considered the most cunning woman, as she has hidden it for long 18 years, so that at the end of it, Soha will be given the right to decide and she'll select her mother, once Dev claims for her custody.


And Sona is not expecting Dev to come on his knees and beg for her forgiveness. Neither is she trying to act Mahaan... Both of them are not Mahaan.

And whether Sona still loves Dev or will again fall for him is for her to decide... There separation happened on a bitter note, but they do know the major cause of it... They are aware, that neither of them wanted to go separate ways. But that did happen. And when the major cause of separation of 2 people is not them but the 3rd parties, they are bound to have a feeling, that they could have been together, if the unfortunate things didn't happen. And Dev-Sona too think the same way is what i think from some of their dialogues.

Dev to Golu: Toh Katti Karni Hi Kyu Thi? Jeevan bhar saath dene ka vaada kiya tha.

Sona to Dev: Mujhe driving seekhne ki zarurat nahi padegi... Kyuki mujhe laga tum hamesha mere sath rahoge. Mujhe nahi pata tha ke hum...!!!

The Cvs has a story to tell and they are building up the base. We as viewers may like it or not, but i guess they know what they are doing.


For the TM: Sir i have seen in your reply to Mayu that you have written about the font size and color. I always use colors and sometimes bigger font in my posts and replies, but will not do it here. I don't mean to disrespect you in any which way. And i want to be frank here... Sir i really didn't expect you to write something like "stoop to your level" for a fellow forum member. I was actually taken aback with these words specially.

P.S: First of all, i would like to ask some questions to my fellow forum members. Why on earth if people have different set of thinking than you, you call them childish and not ready to understand. Guys... No 2 people are alike. If you have the right to criticize, others do have the right to put forward their POV, if they don't agree to you. Why always think you are being targeted.

Posts are being made and when people disagree, why are they been criticized of being biased and blind. You have a different set of thinking, learn to respect the others too.

P.S.S: I have seen after each and every episodes the only posts in the forum are about criticizing the central characters. Bashing the 2 characters. Where she has gone wrong or where he has gone wrong. I always wonder, post leap, 2 supercute kids have been introduced. We get some lighthearted and beautiful scenes of them, but they are hardly been discussed about. And if you would like to point out why i don't make efforts to make such posts. To let you all know, i am rarely visiting the forum these days. Firstly my health is not allowing me to do so and secondly lots and lots of things have changed.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#56
@ Jyoti: This is called beautiful and quality post.😳
People like you in forum forces people like me to come to this forum, otherwise nothing is left.
Same and same negative talks = baash the characters in the name of criticism and different point of view.

I have been in this forum for almost 2-3 years . Once this forum was fun , but now...

I came to the forum for my stories and reading their beautiful comments.Hardly participate in any other post

I am not CEO of any company, I don't have much experience in professional world. So don't have grace when I give reply to anyone. Don't have right to point out things if you cross the line. If I reply I become chiddish and low mentality person.

I am done MBA In finance, mother of two kids- when I object the negativity with force I become low mental person.
Even in YHM forum we fought said so many things to each other people have not said such thing to me knowing what kind of person I am.

Edited by mayu1982 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#57
I Think That Cv Have Bring Down Dev 2.0 Character To A Record Low ( Except ISHWARI Taunt), which We All Agree .
On The Other Hand ,,Sona Has Become Strong And Independent Which Is Good ,But His Anger Has Not Tow A Inch Towards Dev,,


Cv Have Made SONAKSHI Strong And His Character Is Improved A Little Bit Or Remained Stable

But Dev 2.0 Character Is The Major Worry,,
Majority Of Forum Members Don't Want SONAKSHI To Go To Dev.,,which Is Right As Per Present Situation ,,nothing Can Be Said About Future ,, So Stop Saying That SONAKSHI Should Not Go Ever ,,

But Here Is The Key To Be Noted

Jatin And Soha Will Play Important Role In DEVAKSHI Relationship.

Jatin As A Friend May Be Shown By Cv To Calm Down A Have A Serious Talk With Cool Mind With SONAKSHI.

And As

Cv Will Show Change In Dev Character Back To Normal or Good Husband Qualities ,,Only After Soha Comes To Dev ,,
Soha Will Be The Person Which Will Be Major Reason For A Change To Dev Character ,,With Little Help From Mama Ji As He Did In Season 1.

That We Have To See How Dev Character Starts to Change TO normal Husband And Human Being

.That Cv Have To Show Some Major POSTIVE Change In Dev Behavior Which We Audience Can Be Relate To .

Only After Soha Entry ,,Dev Character Will Just Again Start To Come To Normal or Better .That We Have To See

So Then After Jatin And Soha Calm Down The Bitterness And Growth In Dev Character,, And SONAKSHI Anger

Then Only

DEVAKSHI Can Start Talking About Improving Their Relationship And Marriage.😳

This Will take Time

So Be Patient

This Is Strictly My POV ,, I May be Wrong For Some ,,Better Be It.

No Chappals Please😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@ Jyothi - I wrote that Childish and ignorant comment and since you brought it up, let me explain why I said so. Definitely it's not because someone has different set of point of views than me or us. But it is how the poster has gone personal to PKDas and commented along the lines of 'you/your thought/you're wrong' etc. It was more of judging PKdas and many of others personal thoughts than criticizing a post or show or character. I dont know about you, but I definitely find it extremely childish, in fact my 18 yr old sister also might not do that. I urge you to re-read the post before you ask again why and how I find it childish. Look at your own post and then theirs. I am sure you will find the difference. Only if everyone had 'respectfully' disagreed as you did, it would be a much more pleasant place to reply.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: JyotiBThakur

And i beg to disagree on a lot of things said over here. With all due respect sir.

From where i am looking into it there's no 1.0 or 2.0... The characters are still the same. They are Dev and Sonakshi. The pain, hurt and struggles of all these years have definitely brought some changes in them. But they are the same people.

Talking about the love gone... Respect gone... Faith and Trust gone... The leap has just been taken and we have not yet been introduced to all the major characters yet. It's very early to decide what's all is gone and what's still remaining.

But if you feel it's all gone... In the recent episodes what i felt is, Love is still there underneath the hatred mask. Respect... from what i look into some of the scenes it is still there but again, they are trying hard to not let the mask slip infront of each other or the world, but the feeling do come in fore unknowingly sometimes. Faith and Trust (I think the earthquake and the goons incidence already proved, it's still there.)

And why would Sona fall in love with Dev again is for us to wait and watch... Falling in love again happens when you fall out of love with that person. But that is not the case with either Dev or Sona. I know many people may not agree with me on this. But this is my POV.

7 Years of separation, hurt, pain, struggle all this is enough for the anger to build with leaps and bounds... And that is what has happened with them. I don't consider them perfect human beings to not get angry, to always behave sane. Sona should always be respectful. Dev should not do this or do that... Nobody does that. I personally, when angry not always think before i act. Sometimes i really do stupidity in anger and then these are the fictional characters and not real people.

I agree Sona must have achieved everything, but that doesn't mean nothing is left. There's a lot to come.

And why is only 7 Year and not 18...!!! It could have been said in the case of a 18 years leap too. Why such a long leap and trust me at that time Sona would have been considered the most cunning woman, as she has hidden it for long 18 years, so that at the end of it, Soha will be given the right to decide and she'll select her mother, once Dev claims for her custody.


And Sona is not expecting Dev to come on his knees and beg for her forgiveness. Neither is she trying to act Mahaan... Both of them are not Mahaan.

And whether Sona still loves Dev or will again fall for him is for her to decide... There separation happened on a bitter note, but they do know the major cause of it... They are aware, that neither of them wanted to go separate ways. But that did happen. And when the major cause of separation of 2 people is not them but the 3rd parties, they are bound to have a feeling, that they could have been together, if the unfortunate things didn't happen. And Dev-Sona too think the same way is what i think from some of their dialogues.

Dev to Golu: Toh Katti Karni Hi Kyu Thi? Jeevan bhar saath dene ka vaada kiya tha.

Sona to Dev: Mujhe driving seekhne ki zarurat nahi padegi... Kyuki mujhe laga tum hamesha mere sath rahoge. Mujhe nahi pata tha ke hum...!!!

The Cvs has a story to tell and they are building up the base. We as viewers may like it or not, but i guess they know what they are doing.


For the TM: Sir i have seen in your reply to Mayu that you have written about the font size and color. I always use colors and sometimes bigger font in my posts and replies, but will not do it here. I don't mean to disrespect you in any which way. And i want to be frank here... Sir i really didn't expect you to write something like "stoop to your level" for a fellow forum member. I was actually taken aback with these words specially.

P.S: First of all, i would like to ask some questions to my fellow forum members. Why on earth if people have different set of thinking than you, you call them childish and not ready to understand. Guys... No 2 people are alike. If you have the right to criticize, others do have the right to put forward their POV, if they don't agree to you. Why always think you are being targeted.

Posts are being made and when people disagree, why are they been criticized of being biased and blind. You have a different set of thinking, learn to respect the others too.

P.S.S: I have seen after each and every episodes the only posts in the forum are about criticizing the central characters. Bashing the 2 characters. Where she has gone wrong or where he has gone wrong. I always wonder, post leap, 2 supercute kids have been introduced. We get some lighthearted and beautiful scenes of them, but they are hardly been discussed about. And if you would like to point out why i don't make efforts to make such posts. To let you all know, i am rarely visiting the forum these days. Firstly my health is not allowing me to do so and secondly lots and lots of things have changed.




Such an amazing Post Jojo..This Is Called Sensible writing.Take a Bow.


I copied Ur message To TM..Even i was Surprised To see The word has been used.Here Is Nothing to stoop Down or Childish or Ignorant, it's other POV. If u think That Ur POV Is Mature And practical enough Then What is Other's fault to Think the same about Their Thoughts.and i really really feel To Laugh when i found ppl who R disrespecting other are Claiming and Asking to respect Their POV And them.

Not only age ,Position ,Experience Show ur maturity..Ur way Of talking,Understanding other's POV play an eqal important role their.

thank You but seriusly It's highly disappointing to see every Day Ppl are just discussing Neg points and Criticizing .if any One make a Post out of fun There Is also a war started.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun

@ Jyothi - I wrote that Childish and ignorant comment and since you brought it up, let me explain why I said so. Definitely it's not because someone has different set of point of views than me or us. But it is how the poster has gone personal to PKDas and commented along the lines of 'you/your thought/you're wrong' etc. It was more of judging PKdas and many of others personal thoughts than criticizing a post or show or character. I dont know about you, but I definitely find it extremely childish, in fact my 18 yr old sister also might not do that. I urge you to re-read the post before you ask again why and how I find it childish. Look at your own post and then theirs. I am sure you will find the difference. Only if everyone had 'respectfully' disagreed as you did, it would be a much more pleasant place to reply.



And here you go dear. You may not know me and even i don't know you. Now you have pointed out that the poster has gone personal with the TM and the TM has done the same in his replies too. And i have mentioned the specific words i didn't expect will ever be used in this forum.

But as you are talking about going personal, you have done the same with me in your reply "I dont know about you, but I definitely find it extremely childish, in fact my 18 yr old sister also might not do that." Is this not called going personal?

I don't want to go personal with anybody here. But if we are saying something like that. We should follow the same right?

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