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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepsel

Forgot to add, does anyone else think that KRPKAB will not have a traditional ending of Devakshi happily ever after?. After those below the belt lashes from both sides, I will not be surprised if Dev and Sona part amicably and sharing Suhana peacefully. If makers are forward enough to show Neha remarrying and settling abroad (I doubt that she is still with Ranveer), I can see they can show a historical ending to Devakshi as well. I mean the title can be interpreted that even those failed love is another color of love?!😳


I have read this idea being brought up a few times in different posts on the forum and alot of people who unlike me are not biased and in love with the idea of their perfect happily ever after...do actually appreciate and support this ending...and I would believe that if it was real world this is actually how it would end...for starters its really difficult for people these days to wait for seven years and not move on in life...and maybe if some people dont move on in terms of finding partners, they do really become very different people in 7 years, and there is so much around you that would not allow you to be that old person...that i guess is the reality of life...

But these ideas always really upset me...when I watch fiction, I really set it apart from my reality...I hate sad endings...sometimes they are needed for impact and its ohkay when they period films, somewhere in history or the sorts...but when its just a love story, I really dont like the idea of couple not ending up together...

i could blame my mother for this maybe...she always says- I have enough real life happening around me, now I dont want to watch it on TV also...can they pls show me happy ppl...

and I somehow carry that, maybe not as strongly but to a great extent...fiction is about hope, about good things, even when characters are grey, they are more white than black (unless dey eventually have to turn into negative leads)...dey do show all the negative vamps and d jazz but the feeling that eventually it will all be okay, makes me tolerate them...in reality maybe the truths of these ppl would never come out or maybe such assholes could never be able to manipulate other ppl...with all this fiction happening i would want a fictional ending too..

and I genuinely believe if not for the families around them, these two could live happily ever after...i dont see it as a case of being in love and not being able to live together...they have never really tried the later...they have just been in the same house living for others...they do at least deserve a chance at trying to live together (its all about second chances as you said) and then maybe if doesn't work out, they can decide...

as for all that is said between them...it comes out of circumstances, situations and lot of build up of emotions...and I'm not the biggest believer in words, they often don't live up to the emotions...
and when there are writers writing under the pressure of shelling out daily episodes, the language is often very callously used...the messaging, the interpretations that we as viewers put to those words, I dont think these writers give it that much thought( I could be absolutely wrong though)...but for my viewing pleasure I view and understand as it pleases my interest...basically I just register there were fights they had...bad and ugly ones...they were both to blame and I would want them to have love enough to come back together...its a show at the end of the day...there is a limit to making it real...

I sound like one ridiculous kid living in a bubble... i indeed think I am Indian TV makers best audience...zero expectations and enough appreciation...but I watch TV to feel happy and watch it with the hope that eventually its a lala land ( i dint like that movies ending-so much for reality :(
and so much time spend over rooting for devakshi, for them to live amicably apart...just doesn't feel right to me...
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Posted: 8 years ago
#42
@Deepsel I don't think they are planning to end the show with Dev and Sona living happily separately with joint custody of Soha.
Reasons are as under:

1. Their is too much love, anger, angst and other emotions still between them. It is just not possible to let go such strong emotions and be casual. Thereotically, it is possible yes. But practically very tough. It was not a case of a marriage where love died a slow prolonged death and only indifference or mild affection remained.

It was a relationship there was a lot of love but was torn apart by anger and circumstances. Seven years have not been sufficient to make them let go. Either these two will come together or kill each other

2. Second reason is very practical - the channel will not allow it. If they show such unpopular endings, no one will see their next show. They know how much the audience loves this couple.

Real life is full of pain, loss and compromise. The audience watches a show to forget all that and not to have a replay of our daily pain. The makers are here to sell a dream that everything will be happy and beautiful in the end. Only then public will watch it.

Remember madhubala. The show could never recover after they did the harakiri of showing the heroine unlucky for her husband and the leads died a painful death. Audience just didn't waste time on season 2 whatever twists and turns they tried.

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Posted: 8 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: vayu_prachi


Hopefully sona Di...they do have a trend of something major happening in the story on milestones




Hope so. 250 episodes, then 300 then----- I really don't want this show to end. Other bakwas shows go on and on; why not this wonderful show?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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@JShukla: I am not sure I understand how my post is biased towards women with sons. What I was trying to point out is that in the patriarchal system, women have power only in relation to men, so women with sons -- if they play their cards right and their adult son depends on them -- have an opportunity to fulfill their own personal desires through the son. In this system, having a daughter does not give you the same power because the daughter goes to another household once married, and does not have the power to make decisions or manage wealth. Therefore this system heavily disadvantages women without husbands, and without sons.


It seems that Sonakshi's household has not followed this structure for some generations. Instead, they follow the model of companionate marriage, where both spouses are equals and friends. There is no "head" of the household as such, and everyone operates on the assumption of goodwill. From the way Sona's dadi used to talk about her dada, it's clear they had that kind of relationship as well. Sona and Dev didn't fully understand the implications of introducing such a companionate marriage, what both of them wanted, into a patriarchal household.


I would be the last person to deny Ishwari's hypocrisy where the maika issue is concerned, but I am equally interested in the root of that hypocrisy, because I believe that in order to eliminate wrongdoing, it's important to understand its where it comes from. Here, I think the difference for Ishwari lies in context. Her brother helped them when they were in dire straits and had nobody else, while Sona's family only met them when they were well-off. She has deep trust issues, so she constantly nursed the doubt that Sona and her family were only in it to take advantage of Dev's wealth. In this she was absolutely wrong, because she ended up trusting the wrong people, believing blood is thicker than water, but I can see where the thought process came from.


Why MILs mistreat their DILs; it's definitely a power trip like you said, but often more calculated than the MIL just enjoying her power. You say they shouldn't mess with the DILs, in order to protect their positions, but why would they be willing to do that without putting up a fight? After all, the power they have in their son's life, and therefore in the household is construed as the reward for the years of quiet service as the ideal bahu. It's easy to say they should break out of this from our vantage point, but that path is not always clearly laid out for them. So basically, a son who loves his wife is a threat to the system that promised the mother delayed gratification.


Ishwari loves Dev and genuinely wants him to be happy, but her fear speaks louder than her love. I think her fear was losing control over Dev, who was the enactor of her will in a world she didn't think would acknowledge her desires as valid, and therefore losing her life's work. She is unable to come to terms with the fact that her happiness is no longer Dev's happiness, and since Sona was the first point at which that was made evident, she becomes a convenient scapegoat. And because Ishwari doesn't consider her son an adult, if he is not under her control, he must be under somebody's control -- again, convenient scapegoat is Sona and her abandonment.


Just to be clear, I am not trying to "convert" anyone into empathising with Ishwari, just expressing why I do.

Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#45
@Sam- Absolutely.. I get you are not trying to convert. Damn my words if they suggested otherwise.
The more I read you, the more I come to realize that you are the underdog advocate. For example a strong and compassionate Sona or for that matter a truly ideal son like Dev who as per me gave his mother no cause of complaints rarely figures in your write up for sympathy or empathy...

Would love to read your take on these individuals. Dev before the 1st break up and Sona all through are my favourite kind of people in terms of having the right kind of emotions that are good for society/environment in general. How do you think they could have approached considering Ishwari Niwas's dynamics.
I'd assume that nothing less than an equal compassionate marriage would have worked for Devakshi.

An Ish after viewing her father slapped by her husband might just weep in a corner in her sasural. Sona went away. But as per me she was milder than what she should have been. But Ish still complains? Almost all people do understand the generation gap. How is Neha demanding rights/material comforts/privacy, etc at her sasural different from Sona demanding just respect at her sasural?
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Posted: 8 years ago
#46

Thanks everyone...

@Sam & Shaavi - Thanks for the analysis. Just on the sex bit... I totally get why a mother like Ishwari would get insecure over any woman in her son's life, let alone one who her own son chose. I won't repeat everything you ladies said. However, what was disappointing was that Dev wasn't into Sonakshi 24x7. He went to work the next day after muh dikhai. He used to eat with them and Sonakshi used to be sat far from him on the table. They were rarely caught cochi-cooing or flirting with each other pre or post wedding. Ishwari still had this inherent fear that Sonakshi's coquetry will take her raja beta away from her. She blamed Sona even at the minister's dance. I think the mother in her saw early on how Dev was attracted to this woman and Dev let her down by not telling her about his love interest (another topic of discussion for some other day). I didn't see Ishwari treating Dev like an 8 year old in that context. In fact she found the love notes and the gift parcels quite uncomfortable.

Had Dev clued into his mother's desire to be kept in the loop things would be different. He was a master perception manager and I am not suggesting he needed to check with her - hey ma, which dress I should order for Sona. It was more generic. Eg. Rather than announcing a two week vacation on the dining table after having sneaked out for the night with his wife, he needed to speak to Ishwari in private. "Ma, I am thinking of taking Sona with me on a small business trip to Europe. For about 10-12 days". He misjudged Ishwari's insecurities when he was so good at making her feel in control on other matters e.g. offering 30% to Neha's potential groom or a job to ranveer

Woman like Radha rani are happier when their sons get married. Because that means their sons spend their nights at home rather than out and about. But with Dev, Ishwari saw no point at all in him having a consistent sexual partner.

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Posted: 8 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: JShukla

]Wohoo... now this will surely be path breaking for me.I would really like this ending you suggested. Lets see what they have in mind but with Dev wounded and love lorn Sona crying by his bedside scene coming up it not likely[/DIV]

BTW, Deepa, hello again. Somehow you always post something that I just have to have to quote😆

But unlike you I felt Dev;s below the belt lashes started that day at farm house '' its good that you can't be a mother because you are incapable of being a good mother'; "you married me so you can put your useless brother on track" you married me for money" you can never earn enough "...

now off course Sona has joined the bandwagon.

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That was definitely not acceptable. Dev was cruel in his words with an intention to hurt. And now he is walking around with all these moments locked inside him, waiting to explode. Sonakshi also hit back calling him names when he asked her to come back into his life! It was a Creative upheaval of thoughts, words and actions which brought about a separation of two beautiful people, so much in love. But, I believe it's time for Sonakshi to let go of her poised persona and blurt out all her anger and frustrations. I am sure she has a lot of pent up emotions that is never revealed to her parents or Suhana. She is strong, after all!! 😕


-Rekha
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Posted: 8 years ago
#48
@Sam what you have described happens in 90% of the households and is a very common tussle between the MIL and DIL. Relinquishing control is easier said than done.
Bit if one looks closely, is Ishwari's problem only of insecurity?

Ishwari is being hated because she has surpassed even these normal jealousies. Most MIL simply want to retain control over their sons but have no desire to destroy his happiness for their own selfish.

Ishwari can see that her son is getting destroyed but is making no effort to correct it. For her, her self image surpasses everything even her son's happiness.

She has become so engrossed in her godly image that she is incapable of seeing how her actions are hurting the very son she loves. She doesn't care about his happiness if she gets the devotion as she feels is her due.

If Dev had continued respecting her after the divorce, had continued his slavish devotion she would not have been affected or concerned at all that he was dying inside - even he developed 50 ulcers, heart disease, hypertension or high BP.

That is why I feel that she has long ago crossed the realms of normal jealousy and insecurity and crossed into the realms of insanity.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Payal, she "tasted" this Godly image after the first separation. She hadn't realised she had this much control on devakshi. Once she experienced it, Ishwari started protecting it. Dev and sonakshi were both making it very easy for Ishwari
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I wanted to post this 2 days back but couldnt lol Well this new spoiler sequence..left me with few thoughts oh firstly its bit too filmy for me lol

I categorized them as pros and cons or after effects of it lol

Pros

This sequence firstly will definately fulfill my wish of seeing Sonakshi's softer side for the first time post leap..which I so desperately wanted to see..we saw Dev's hidden emotions few times but untill now Sona has been quite stren not revealing anything
Next this will disclose Vickey completely as backstabber here its awesome.. finally after 250 episodes the ultimate dream of everyone will come true
Then we might get too see some sweet heart warming moments between Dev Sonakshi..though I have my doubts

Cons

The major concern which I am feeling is the blame for Dev's condition will instantly come on Sonakshi and this will complicate situation further for Dev Sonakshi
Next with vickey's involvement what will happen in dixit house..will he and his family be out of the house?? will again due to Ishwari they will continue to stay
Also , the thought that disturbs me here is Ishwari will be her over interfering self and have to bear her emotional creepy state..she will insist on taking care of Dev further scaring the shit out of me ..she will get full on chance to again say bad about Sonakshi and Dev will not be even able to shut her up due to his frail health.

Oh I am in overthinking mode




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