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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: IFfreak

I am so angry and so pissed at silly regressive articles from Twitter and all coming and sitting and they are being called unbiased because they are pro Dev.

Is it that difficult to see that dev and family were in fact being abusive in the modern 21 st century style to Sona
.. barring being beaten black and blue she suffered it all.

Regressive MIL who continuously heaped abuse in a subtlem manner.
Taunting relatives
No support from husband
No way to vent.. a couple of times she tried complaining against MIL and other taunts..Dev was extremely rude and snubbed her.
Husband did not help her in fitting in with his dysfunctional family all.
Husband never honoured his commitment s...
List goes on...
And still Sonakshi should have understood that Dev considers her and him a team... Are you kidding me...? He makes team as per convenience... He knew he was at fault and hence wanted to team up... But he would conveniently forget her if she is with him and kick her out when she crosses a single line.
I would say shame on such regressive views.


Rant not over.. more than on screen characters, It is the mentality of society that worries me...


How much we would want to but the TV audience somehow laps up regressive shows and thats how the whole business runs. I wont be surprised if Sona is seen repenting, guilty of Dev's change in character. As I wrote in some other post , the aim of the story is 2 women whom Dev wanted to keep happy could not be happy together and so he could not be happy...so now he will try to make them not-so-happy and both will at some point blame themselves for his change of character. I doubt honestly that Dev will ever realise his mistake, redemption was not his forte...particularly if the actor is more popular, then the character is never shown to grow as it was shown in Anurag's case in KZK...As much as I dont like Ekta's shows, at times, she had the courage to go against some societal norms and majority views and show something progressive.
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Posted: 8 years ago
i love tm's post n i agree with her. but y this post has turned into india's bashing post👎🏼
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Posted: 8 years ago
used to watch this show bcoz after long tym since pkyek i found a youth oriented show. didnt make id before here but these days the show has turned into crap. never saw a spineless man like dev. got no spine at all. even after slapping sona's parents he got d nerve to put blame on sona. n ishwari. she is more devilish than ekta's mil's. atleast they dont pretend to act godly n innocent like her... glad sona got a reality check.. i was so shocked that even after d slap she was apologising. r u kidding me. girl u r a doctor n no self respecting woman will ever tolerate that crap... she was acting doormat... i remember kzk.. atleast prerna had d spine n she never took crap from anurag... but sona😕 thnx god she got her senses back. i wanted her to leave d house but she still wanted dev n her priy sasumaa to stop her. thnx god she will get a reality check n get her self respect back! n people talking abt sona to adjust to in laws... it is not only dil's duty to adjust but inlaws need to show some empathy n need to make a move too...

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Posted: 8 years ago
I remember satyamev jayate...Each epi used to bring tears in my eyes. Thanks V, yep I am lucky to have them in life.
Lol guys what article? You guys read that fuzuon production wala where they said dev was just victim...What bs. He was caught in his lie just like a pretty in spiders net, nothing else.

The story made no sense timeline wise...Like they were married fr what, 2/3 months? False pregnancy alarm happens to all I'm sure, but Ishwari went straight from note
accepting her Dil>aww grandbabies>sob sob no baby>go have sex and give me babies. All prior issues were swept under carpet and it all bcm about baby. And NOW the responsibility of dil is coming. W*F dev aukat pe a hi gya. In some posts where we read na that he picked up a damaged person...His words proved his internal mentality. Pretty sure he was feeling so proud fr picking up a damaged one.
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Posted: 8 years ago
I completely agree with you. I believe by seeing the problem and acknowledging the problem are the first steps to solve the problem.

If we bury our head in the sand, the problem would never get solved.

My car once got stuck in the desert in Jaisalmer. The family who owned the camel which we rode that day invited me and my family and shared their food which they already had very little of. That is India.

I was in Delhi where men stared at me like a piece of meat in front of my husband. That was India too.

If I refuse to hear both sides or consider both cases I won't be able to make sound judgement. However, the if a mother of a daughter feels unsafe in India, before judging her, we should make sure that no woman feels unsafe in India. Until then none of us are in a position to pass judgement.

I am sorry to hear about your experience. Believe it or not I was also touched inappropriately by a teacher. I was stunned the first time. But being the person I am, I told my grandmother. The difference is when I told my grandmother, she believed me and gave the teacher a piece of her mind and made sure people in the area knew not to hire him for young girls.

But the statistics is that 98% of sexual violence/molestation happens by people the women already knew.

I have full sympathy and empathy with any victim of abuse - be it men or women. Questions like "you are mistaken", "may be it was an accident", "what did you do", "what were you wearing" etc are insulting to the victim as well as shifting the blame to the victim.

So since you told me the story, even if you had said it in person, I'd say this, "I hope the guy gets punished" and I will tell you that you are brave and you didn't deserve it. That man was a piece of shit and the entire blame rests on him alone. Even if I ever had met you in person, I will happily be your friend. Because I admire courage and you have it. The only thing that will change in my attitude is that I will respect you more for coming through it a stronger person.



Originally posted by: .Avengers.

India maybe best country but like every other third world country it treats its females like second class citizen. That's why we trend #Notallmen #Yesallwoman here. One of main problem is obviously judiciary system. We have many rules, hell we have most number of laws on earth😆 we have equal no. of ways to bypass them. Women related crimes are very hard. Once you get over the feeling that you could have avoided the situation, that if you called him brother uncle, dressed more suitably, that you didn't invite him to abuse you- after you get over fear that society will blame you, ostracize you for your mistake, then you make it to police station for fir. Then strings of questions where police and people look at you as if you see the criminal here. Then it makes it to court and there's no guarantee you will see the end of it in this lifetime. This is just a regular sexual abuse/teasing/stalking case. Martial rape has another sets of prejudices to deal with- husband's rights on his wife cause he won her, right? Parents sold her along with dowry right? Maybe some vedic books give rights to husband to do whatever he wants. This is where we lack. I

Internet is funny place, we can share our stories without fear that someone will recognise us. I have recently started dealing with this so wanted to get off his chest- my guitar teacher touched me inappropriately when I was in class 6. I didn't understand his touch, maybe liked it cause it was different? I never told anyone, it went on for months. Then one day I just blurted it out to mom, cause it will be Sunday in next 2 days and I didn't want to go. I remember giving excuses past weeks to avoid going. Maybe deep down I knew it would escalate to more dark place and I didn't want it. Mom was outataged, she couldn't believe it. He was like a father figure cause my own dad stayed far away in Bangalore. Me and mom stay in WB. He often used to come, SAT with us. He would bring snacks, tease me about school and studies. Mom called him Dada as in big brother. His wife was my aunty like, he had a daughter who was very small, like 6/7, his son used to play piano. When I told mom she told dad. What else we could've done? He called him and threatened him, maybe verbally abused him idk. Here's the funny part, his wife came the next day to our house. Made quite ruckus, crying and yelling. Throwing herself on our sofa, following mom to kitchen, sitting against wall on floor. One thing she kept saying again and again, that I may have misunderstood his touch. I was right there, she came to me and said those words repeatedly as if to hear it themselves from my mouth. I could understand she as a wife may not accept it, it was a shock. I was that naive back then. Now, I am not. Why he get to be so normal when I have suppressed it for years and just now dealing with it? Why he get that perfect family but sometimes I look at mom and feel like maybe she's thinking I am too damaged due to my past? Why his wife didn't believe a kid? I was a kid, I wasn't lying. What could I get by lying? Why would I give false accusations? He was like a father figure, I didn't want to ruin it.



The point I wanted to make before this above mess is we as a people need to sympathize with victims. Not side with sexual abuser just cause he's a well respected man or that he never did anythingf prior this. Maybe he did, we just don't know. Why suppress the lone survivor who's actually speaking out? And it comes with the second class treatment of female, that females are like tissues to use and throw, that they are easy. That everything is theirs fault. It's not. About bloody time we get over it. We fight against British and won, when we will win over our internal issues?



I have heard how unsafe Delhi is but honestly, no place is better. Delhi gets highlighted more cause it's NCR and it should be more safe than other places. Same with Bangalore Chennai. People talk about how it used to be safer before, now Western influence is making boys went berserk and molest others. Once again, blame upbringing not everything else.

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Posted: 8 years ago
That's what worries me too. Until the mentality of a society changes, no change will come. That's the first requirement for any change and defending the abuser and blaming the abused is just one more thing that needs to change.

Originally posted by: IFfreak

I am so angry and so pissed at silly regressive articles from Twitter and all coming and sitting and they are being called unbiased because they are pro Dev.

Is it that difficult to see that dev and family were in fact being abusive in the modern 21 st century style to Sona
.. barring being beaten black and blue she suffered it all.

Regressive MIL who continuously heaped abuse in a subtlem manner.
Taunting relatives
No support from husband
No way to vent.. a couple of times she tried complaining against MIL and other taunts..Dev was extremely rude and snubbed her.
Husband did not help her in fitting in with his dysfunctional family all.
Husband never honoured his commitment s...
List goes on...
And still Sonakshi should have understood that Dev considers her and him a team... Are you kidding me...? He makes team as per convenience... He knew he was at fault and hence wanted to team up... But he would conveniently forget her if she is with him and kick her out when she crosses a single line.
I would say shame on such regressive views.


Rant not over.. more than on screen characters, It is the mentality of society that worries me...

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Posted: 8 years ago
Invasion of his room after he gave permission to his legally wedded wife was more of a trauma than invasion of her body without her consent. Because he is a man and she is a woman. And there are people who are defending that act. What a mentality.

Originally posted by: baijubavra

Nice discussion everyone ! I also want to point out that the same guy who could not tolerate a slight change in his room decor (jhula, fairy lights ) was ready to bombard his wife's body with the fertilty treatments in just 3 months of on and off sexual intercourse. First he was going to do without her permission by bribing the doctor and when his truth came out, he did not bother to consider the side effects even once ( her dad did the internet serach on the side effects as soon as he found out) . He could not tell his mom to "stay positive " and not start the tretments right away. He could not shut RR even once but slapped the FIL. He pushed, shoved the wife twice and was about to slap her.

He wanted his wife back even after slapping the FIl but threw her out of the house and told her to stay away from his mumma when she fell on her after HE shoved her !

Forget about RR or Ishwari I dont think any sane woman should stay with tha kind of guy !

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Posted: 8 years ago
It is not an India bashing post. One of my friends wants to leave India as she has a daughter. One of the readers believed that is not acceptable. So I was defending my friend's decision. Not that she needed anyone to justify her concern, but I was just pointing out that speaking the facts doesn't constitute as bashing.

Originally posted by: deepakloveskat

i love tm's post n i agree with her. but y this post has turned into india's bashing post👎🏼

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Originally posted by: tia.o

It is not an India bashing post. One of my friends wants to leave India as she has a daughter. One of the readers believed that is not acceptable. So I was defending my friend's decision. Not that she needed anyone to justify her concern, but I was just pointing out that speaking the facts doesn't constitute as bashing.


oh sorry didn't read whole context. actually i was a member in bollywood forum n india's bashing was quite common there. so i misunderstood😭
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Posted: 8 years ago
Society is formed by families. When families will raise children with the same standard regardless of gender, the society will change and when society changes, the country changes, the law changes. For that we need to stop blaming woman for everything. I am not saying we should not blame them for their part, but this constant shifting of blame has to stop.

Originally posted by: deepakloveskat

used to watch this show bcoz after long tym since pkyek i found a youth oriented show. didnt make id before here but these days the show has turned into crap. never saw a spineless man like dev. got no spine at all. even after slapping sona's parents he got d nerve to put blame on sona. n ishwari. she is more devilish than ekta's mil's. atleast they dont pretend to act godly n innocent like her... glad sona got a reality check.. i was so shocked that even after d slap she was apologising. r u kidding me. girl u r a doctor n no self respecting woman will ever tolerate that crap... she was acting doormat... i remember kzk.. atleast prerna had d spine n she never took crap from anurag... but sona😕 thnx god she got her senses back. i wanted her to leave d house but she still wanted dev n her priy sasumaa to stop her. thnx god she will get a reality check n get her self respect back! n people talking abt sona to adjust to in laws... it is not only dil's duty to adjust but inlaws need to show some empathy n need to make a move too...

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