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Posted: 8 years ago
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Tia! Such a heart breaking story. But isnt it the reality??
Its always expected of a girl to behave in such a way, sit like this, smile like this, wear these clothes???

The recent news about the new years eve non-sense that happened in Bangalore...the blame is upon the women...arent we responsible to raise our boys more maturely and respectably?

Recently, I came across something, my daughter learns chess. The coach is very great at chess. Their class has 2 kids - one my daughter and other a boy. Both are 7 year olds. The boys mom requested the coach to change the timings of the class because the boy wanted to go to a cooking class at that time. The coach agreed. But during one of the classes when the boy was having trouble to think of a move, the coach says - think about the chess now not the cooking, leave the cooking to your mom. I felt really bad and said that anyone can do cooking, its not gender specific. The coach is very elderly, 70+ guy. I just felt, it is not bad for a guy to learn to cook.

The other day I was listening to one spiritual guru, he has lot of following...he says that males job is to work outside and females job is in the house...lot of things that are happening now-a-days are due to that fact that there is imbalance in the duties that males and females do.

As my dad says, such mentality has been a part of DNA since ages, which will be very hard to remove.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I totally agree with your points. Yes, this mentality is deeply ingrained in society. But accepting it won't change it. Fighting against it will change it. It is an uphill battle. But the end result is worth it.

In the past, people used to think that educating a woman is not worth it because she is not smart like men/is going to be in kitchen for the rest of her life etc. But that mindset to a large extent changed. Had no woman ever protested and kept silent, it won't have changed.

Accepting social norm and blaming the society/fate/own circumstances are easy. But fighting against it is difficult but worthwhile.

I am glad that there are women here who can identify the sexist comments/attitude. That's the first step. You will be surprised, how many women can't even identify them and/or justify them. I have met them even in real life from all walks of social strata...

Originally posted by: sbadam

Tia! Such a heart breaking story. But isnt it the reality??

Its always expected of a girl to behave in such a way, sit like this, smile like this, wear these clothes???

The recent news about the new years eve non-sense that happened in Bangalore...the blame is upon the women...arent we responsible to raise our boys more maturely and respectably?

Recently, I came across something, my daughter learns chess. The coach is very great at chess. Their class has 2 kids - one my daughter and other a boy. Both are 7 year olds. The boys mom requested the coach to change the timings of the class because the boy wanted to go to a cooking class at that time. The coach agreed. But during one of the classes when the boy was having trouble to think of a move, the coach says - think about the chess now not the cooking, leave the cooking to your mom. I felt really bad and said that anyone can do cooking, its not gender specific. The coach is very elderly, 70+ guy. I just felt, it is not bad for a guy to learn to cook.

The other day I was listening to one spiritual guru, he has lot of following...he says that males job is to work outside and females job is in the house...lot of things that are happening now-a-days are due to that fact that there is imbalance in the duties that males and females do.

As my dad says, such mentality has been a part of DNA since ages, which will be very hard to remove.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Payalj_


Congratulations first on having a beautiful married life. And all actions of yours sound very sensible. If immediately after marriage you would have revolted against your in law's your husband would not have agreed. Mainly because they would never have I'll treated him and for him the way he had been living till date would have been the right way, ingrained deeply into his psyche.

But your patience and love paid off and now you have a beautiful life ahead😊


Thanks Payalj. Yes, the perseverance has paid off! I have a loving hubby and daughter. You won't believe but I have good relationship with my in-laws too albeit long distance!😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sia.krpkab


Glad it is all settled for you now. Resilience and Courage - we all need different proportions of these two elements in different walks of life. But you are the judge of what is non-negotiable for you.

But the bottom line remains that your efforts (towards your in-laws) went waste, ultimately you had to separate to lead a peaceful life because it took time to knock sense into the husband.
But God forbid what if he still didn't agree to stay away from them? Then the efforts would have gone waste here too and would probably have continued to struggle. For you, the tipping point was when your daughter was been poisoned against you, which made you take this step of moving away - a step you could not take for yourself when life was tough for you.

Tia & I are advocating to take these steps for ourselves and not wait for too long. But each to his own and its natural that circumstances and people react differently in different households.



Thanks Sia. Yes, it took quite some time but I don't regret it as I know I have given my best shot to live with my inlaws. I did not panic and run away. I have done all I could have done to repair than discarding it outright! As engineer, we pride ourselves as problem solvers but sometimes the problem is no longer a linear or quadratic equation which can be solved but the satisfaction is there that we tried our best.

My hubby would have never agreed if I had asked for separate living at the very outset. But he has seen my effort although they(hubbys in general) may not say but they realise the problem.. just like Dev also had realised that all is not hunky dory between his wife and mom.

My relationship with my -in laws is cordial. Once when ma-in-law was complaining that my daughter just listens to me, I told her its hereditary, my daughter has gone after her Dad! I hope I have driven the point home. 😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Good for you. I am glad it worked out in the end. That's what I wrote in my response. In India, when a woman wants to live separately with her husband, the in-laws and society always blame her as homewrecker or she stole their son etc etc. As if by choosing to make her home (which is by the way also their son's family), she had to steal their son, a consenting adult fully capable of making his own decisions, like people steal money from others.

But the fact is, most women want to live a happy life with their in-laws and that's the dream they see when they get married into a joint family. But when the family takes her for granted and tramples on her self-esteem, she'd have no choice but to move out.

You finally got your happy ending when you moved to a separate country and created an even ground for your marriage away from all interference and influences.

But my advice is for those women who don't have the option to move out. In that case, they have to stand up for themselves and make it clear to their husband that they expect the support from him as his equal, his wife or they will dish out equal insult to the in-laws making their life equally hell.

Keeping quiet and keeping their head down or trying to fit a pre-set mold might make them tolerate you, but won't ever respect you for your own self. Which is what I had said when Sona tried to change herself to make Ishwari love her. But did that get her anything? Nope. All she has left is no self-respect and no love either.


You are very right Tia but we should try to workout the marriage first. If one's hubby is not willing to live separately from his parents, one has to give a try to stay in a joint family. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. It takes greater courage and resilience to try to adapt than to leave it at the slightest problem. It is very easy to ask for a divorce or separation at the first sight of a problem. Nowadays, I have seen so many divorce case as nobody wants to try to work it out. And the biggest victim of the divorce is the children. The kids from broken homes suffer at conscious and subconscious level. So, first we should try to repair and if it is not working then discard. 😊

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nice write up Tia and yes, loved your story. More than that the story telling that reaches your heart..That's the effect that Kuch Rang had on me the initial days.
I will never blame Sona for getting married to Dev. because, most of us who are smart and intelligence, well educated and brought up with open minded parents think that we can change people or can create a positive influence.

Equality to gender and privilege to have thoughts and discussions about any topic with no bias to boys will be done in at in-laws house. But here, slowly its draining and now not even an ounce of the Sonakshi character exists.

Yesterday's episode, left me choked and embarrassed and felt like am put in a dark hole where the only lightness is shown when someone as in (Ishwari) shows some light. Dev being around the room, talking to me trying to make me smile.

Infertility is something private and I dont want the entire world to know that am getting treated. Sonakshi raised a valid point..that with this stress she cant have peace or rest..How nicely Dev convinced her and she gave in?? Sona, you are now dead to me and the precap, you are wearing that gown?? I couldnt watch it at all..

Wonder why she didn't send some victoria secret enticing lingerie??

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you. Yes, that's the question I raised as well. I asked the question, imagine if Dev had a low sperm count and Bijoy was making demand for grandkids and sent them to a resort where he announced Dev's condition to the entire resort, how insulted he will feel. If he stormed out of the resort, no one would blame him. But then men's dignity is more worthy than a woman's dignity. That's why even now, people are defending Dev.

I don't even know how Sonakshi is romancing Dev after that. I'd have left the resort and go straight to my home.

Sonakshi continuously tried to win Dev's family over, but that was overlooked. Yet, the fact Dev is "trying" to keep everyone happy is such a huge deal.

I can't even wrap my head around this fact.

However, one thing I'd tell you that women who marry a guy and thinks they can change them are delusional. Because you see, people don't change unless they themselves want to change.

The first step to change is accepting that something is wrong. The reason a person hasn't changed until marriageable age is because they think that there nothing in them that needs to be changed as in has not accepted or acknowledged any faults in them to start with. So instead of changing, they will resist and resent their wives urge to change.

Every human being has their flaws. But as long as they are loving, caring, respectful, supportive and understanding, all other flaws can be tolerated.

Dev never stood up for Sona before marriage. She herself knew that he will never stand up for her if his mother is against them. That was the reason of her insecurity. She also knew Dev was a lier. He hid their relationship from his mother for a long time and the consequence Sona had to suffer as if she was the one who asked him to hide it. Why is she shocked when Dev never stands up for her or lies to her now? She married him fully aware that she is at the very bottom of his priority list.

Sona is not stupid. We all know our spouses and what they are like. Deluding ourselves might put us in la la land but that's not real.

However, if she doesn't leave Dev after the slap, I don't think she is worthy of being called a daughter either. And Asha and Saurabh better not support Dev. If they do, then they don't deserve Bijoy either.



Originally posted by: GeekSquad

Nice write up Tia and yes, loved your story. More than that the story telling that reaches your heart..That's the effect that Kuch Rang had on me the initial days.

I will never blame Sona for getting married to Dev. because, most of us who are smart and intelligence, well educated and brought up with open minded parents think that we can change people or can create a positive influence.

Equality to gender and privilege to have thoughts and discussions about any topic with no bias to boys will be done in at in-laws house. But here, slowly its draining and now not even an ounce of the Sonakshi character exists.

Yesterday's episode, left me choked and embarrassed and felt like am put in a dark hole where the only lightness is shown when someone as in (Ishwari) shows some light. Dev being around the room, talking to me trying to make me smile.

Infertility is something private and I dont want the entire world to know that am getting treated. Sonakshi raised a valid point..that with this stress she cant have peace or rest..How nicely Dev convinced her and she gave in?? Sona, you are now dead to me and the precap, you are wearing that gown?? I couldnt watch it at all..

Wonder why she didn't send some victoria secret enticing lingerie??

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Tia and anyone who probably feels like I do
Can you please tell me whether the picture of Sona and Dev doing the deed is causing cringe worthy emotions instead of the right kind only for me?


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: gemini54

Tia and anyone who probably feels like I do

Can you please tell me whether the picture of Sona and Dev doing the deed is causing cringe worthy emotions instead of the right kind only for me?


I am always drooling on devakshi scenes... But the prolonged pecks and this wrapped in sheets photo is making me uncomfortable/frustrating me
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Thank you. Yes, that's the question I raised as well. I asked the question, imagine if Dev had a low sperm count and Bijoy was making demand for grandkids and sent them to a resort where he announced Dev's condition to the entire resort, how insulted he will feel. If he stormed out of the resort, no one would blame him. But then men's dignity is more worthy than a woman's dignity. That's why even now, people are defending Dev.

I don't even know how Sonakshi is romancing Dev after that. I'd have left the resort and go straight to my home.

Sonakshi continuously tried to win Dev's family over, but that was overlooked. Yet, the fact Dev is "trying" to keep everyone happy is such a huge deal.

I can't even wrap my head around this fact.

However, one thing I'd tell you that women who marry a guy and thinks they can change them are delusional. Because you see, people don't change unless they themselves want to change.

The first step to change is accepting that something is wrong. The reason a person hasn't changed until marriageable age is because they think that there nothing in them that needs to be changed as in has not accepted or acknowledged any faults in them to start with. So instead of changing, they will resist and resent their wives urge to change.

Every human being has their flaws. But as long as they are loving, caring, respectful, supportive and understanding, all other flaws can be tolerated.

Dev never stood up for Sona before marriage. She herself knew that he will never stand up for her if his mother is against them. That was the reason of her insecurity. She also knew Dev was a lier. He hid their relationship from his mother for a long time and the consequence Sona had to suffer as if she was the one who asked him to hide it. Why is she shocked when Dev never stands up for her or lies to her now? She married him fully aware that she is at the very bottom of his priority list.

Sona is not stupid. We all know our spouses and what they are like. Deluding ourselves might put us in la la land but that's not real.

However, if she doesn't leave Dev after the slap, I don't think she is worthy of being called a daughter either. And Asha and Saurabh better not support Dev. If they do, then they don't deserve Bijoy either.




Agree 300%..I am just waiting for the day when she will stand up for herself. Unless people want to change, they dont and yes, for that first they need to accept that something is wrong with them.

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