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Posted: 8 years ago
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Don't get me wrong Payal, I am not blaming Sona for Dev lying to her. If she does not tell Ishwari the truth listening to Dev, then I will blame her. Because what Dev did was wrong and if she supports him in his lie, then she is wrong too. Truth is sometimes, in fact most times, the more difficult path to take. But it is never the wrong way. Lies might be often easier way, but it is never the right way. She can't blame Dev for hiding the truth if she themselves can't speak it.

Another reason I think Sona should not have been surprised by Dev's lies (hurt yes, surprised no) because there are multiple times when she caught Dev lying. Even when Dev ate at her parents' house during Navratri, he lied to his mother. If a man can lie on trivial things, why won't be lie on big things?

But that is not Sona's blame. She is a victim until now. But if she does not speak the truth tomorrow as spoiler indicates, then she will no longer remain a victim, but become an accomplish to Dev's crime. It does not matter to us, but Dixits will conveniently place all blame of Dev on her because she is a better scapegoat than Dev who funds their living. This is not the time to be understanding wife. That boat has sailed long ago, the limit has been crossed.

Originally posted by: _Payalj_

Hi Tia

I guess I am the only one who is not blaming Sona. Her husband has lied to her and she is in tremendous pain because of it.

But she is not a fool and can see that there is some valid reason behind it. She could also see that her husband is almost on the verge of a breakdown. So she does what any sensible partner would do. Give some time to your husband to come clean about the reasons for his weird behaviour. She knows that Dev is not demented to tell such a tale just for sadistic fun.

She is not responsible for the cheap plans of GKB nor the fact that due to severe tension the reports again got left in the car.

Regarding Dev, I would have applauded him if and only if his actions were not spurred out of sheer cowardice. The guy knows his God mother inside out and knows what she is going to ask him to do once the truth comes out. He has only being trying to avoid that instead of mustering the courage to stand for his wife.

What he doesn't realise is that unpleasant tasks have to be faced head on. such silly delays and wishful thinking only aggravate the situation.

But yes did love the fact that in spite of bijoys marked misbehavior with him today he didn't tell the truth. This he did only and only for Sonakshi.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Exactly. I could totally relate to that statement. When someone's loved ones, on whom they have immense trust, lies in such a big scale, it's hard to believe if this is the same person you fell in love with or have you ever known this person? Lies corrodes love, trust, belief in one's relationship. No victim of lies ever feels grateful for being lied to.

Telling the truth is not only necessary to have a solid, dependable relationship but also to maintain trust between two people. Truth is hard to hear but less painful than lies in the long run.

Originally posted by: GeekSquad

Well said..Lies are lies and they will come out eventually..When it does, it has lot of potential to blame anyone depending on situation and the intensity of the lie..

While Dev was trying to hold Sona and trying really hard to console her..One sentence touched me.."I feel like a stranger is holding me"..Because the person who knows (forget likes/loves) Sona the most would never do that to her. She has the heart of gold and any person wouldnt want her to go through it..

The flashback scenes were so tearful..

I will wait for the truth to be heard from Sona in the way she exactly imagined. "I am doing the favour of telling you the truth unlike your son who kept you in the dark"

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Posted: 8 years ago
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You know the saddest thing amidst all these is Kuch Rang is really losing viewership pretty fast.

Earlier I could see 80+, 90+ likes on a topic specially after episodes like today. But now I see hardly 20+, 25+. Many many people like Sabita, Tia you, or even me stopped watching the show. Cannot connect to it anymore.


Guess I cannot understand a single character from the show anymore. Sonakshi said today that Ishu was excited about the baby that's all she wanted, and Sona herself was excited about Ishu and that's all SHE wanted.. Really !! This whole freaking infertility track has become nonsense making Ishwari as the centre of discussion. Sonakshi not being able to be a mother is less important than Ishu not being provided with a grandchild. It sucks.


This is one last chance I am giving to Mr. Dev Dixit for his redemption, I swear if he doesn't have any in this track and Sonakshi comes down to a point of 'understanding' Dev and forgives him in a blink of an eye, I am not going to watch the shit anymore. I saw the segment and Dev remains silent upon Mamiji hurling all abuses and blames to Sona, I dont think I can tolerate the crap anymore. So bye bye for me. Let this be a sophisticated Gopi Bahu show but I am genuinely not interested. 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Completely agree with you. CVs are losing loyal viewers trying to run after TRP formula. And when did Dev ever stood up for Sona that he will do now? There is a reason everyone treats Sona like shit while living on her husband's income yet doesn't dare say anything to Elena whose husband and entire family is dependant on Dev.

Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun

You know the saddest thing amidst all these is Kuch Rang is really losing viewership pretty fast.

Earlier I could see 80+, 90+ likes on a topic specially after episodes like today. But now I see hardly 20+, 25+. Many many people like Sabita, Tia you, or even me stopped watching the show. Cannot connect to it anymore.


Guess I cannot understand a single character from the show anymore. Sonakshi said today that Ishu was excited about the baby that's all she wanted, and Sona herself was excited about Ishu and that's all SHE wanted.. Really !! This whole freaking infertility track has become nonsense making Ishwari as the centre of discussion. Sonakshi not being able to be a mother is less important than Ishu not being provided with a grandchild. It sucks.


This is one last chance I am giving to Mr. Dev Dixit for his redemption, I swear if he doesn't have any in this track and Sonakshi comes down to a point of 'understanding' Dev and forgives him in a blink of an eye, I am not going to watch the shit anymore. I saw the segment and Dev remains silent upon Mamiji hurling all abuses and blames to Sona, I dont think I can tolerate the crap anymore. So bye bye for me. Let this be a sophisticated Gopi Bahu show but I am genuinely not interested. 👏

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Don't get me wrong Payal, I am not blaming Sona for Dev lying to her. If she does not tell Ishwari the truth listening to Dev, then I will blame her. Because what Dev did was wrong and if she supports him in his lie, then she is wrong too. Truth is sometimes, in fact most times, the more difficult path to take. But it is never the wrong way. Lies might be often easier way, but it is never the right way. She can't blame Dev for hiding the truth if she themselves can't speak it.

Another reason I think Sona should not have been surprised by Dev's lies (hurt yes, surprised no) because there are multiple times when she caught Dev lying. Even when Dev ate at her parents' house during Navratri, he lied to his mother. If a man can lie on trivial things, why won't be lie on big things?

But that is not Sona's blame. She is a victim until now. But if she does not speak the truth tomorrow as spoiler indicates, then she will no longer remain a victim, but become an accomplish to Dev's crime. It does not matter to us, but Dixits will conveniently place all blame of Dev on her because she is a better scapegoat than Dev who funds their living. This is not the time to be understanding wife. That boat has sailed long ago, the limit has been crossed.


Tia, what I meant was that Sona is currently just giving Dev sometime to explain himself. She is showing her first loyalty towards her husband instead of her mother in law as the case should be.

Once Dev tells her the truth she would obviously need some time to regroup herself, to deal with the pain. Calling a person mother doesn't make her your real mother. It will not be natural for Sona to run immediately to Ishwari the moment she learns the traumatic truth. Ishwari is not someone she would go for solace.

She would most probably like to sit and cry with her husband, talk to her own mother and then later after garnering inner strength go to Ishwari.

Her taking a few hours or even a day in the process is not unnatural. The problem is gkb will catch hold of the truth before that.

Also in such a time, the last thing on Sona's mind would be ensuring that the blame doesn't come on her or that she should act smart. She is after all in genuine trauma.

Clearing Sona's name should be Dev's responsibility.

Another thing Tia, I really don't understand as to why as per some posts Sona not rushing to tell the truth immediately makes her a doormat?

When she was taking Shit from Dev's family she was acting as a doormat but right now she is not.

I don't understand this definition of feminism. Why does this entail not having feminine qualities of being emotional, empathetic, soft or understanding. Because in my opinion they are a woman's biggest strength not weakness.

Why Sonakshi can only prove her worth as a woman only by clearing her name instantly? Is she not allowed to get weak even momentarily during the most traumatic time in her life?

Being feminist doesn't mean being non feminine.
Edited by _Payalj_ - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun

You know the saddest thing amidst all these is Kuch Rang is really losing viewership pretty fast.

Earlier I could see 80+, 90+ likes on a topic specially after episodes like today. But now I see hardly 20+, 25+. Many many people like Sabita, Tia you, or even me stopped watching the show. Cannot connect to it anymore.


Guess I cannot understand a single character from the show anymore. Sonakshi said today that Ishu was excited about the baby that's all she wanted, and Sona herself was excited about Ishu and that's all SHE wanted.. Really !! This whole freaking infertility track has become nonsense making Ishwari as the centre of discussion. Sonakshi not being able to be a mother is less important than Ishu not being provided with a grandchild. It sucks.


This is one last chance I am giving to Mr. Dev Dixit for his redemption, I swear if he doesn't have any in this track and Sonakshi comes down to a point of 'understanding' Dev and forgives him in a blink of an eye, I am not going to watch the shit anymore. I saw the segment and Dev remains silent upon Mamiji hurling all abuses and blames to Sona, I dont think I can tolerate the crap anymore. So bye bye for me. Let this be a sophisticated Gopi Bahu show but I am genuinely not interested. 👏



@Bold - This dialouge of Sona.Made me feel like.Sona wanted to carry a baby in her Womb.Just to make Ish a grandmother.Once the baby born.She will gift wrap the baby n give it to Ish.Ish happy.Then all is well.I could not connect more to Sona character.No today's girl will be like Sona.Being So Mahan,Epitome of understanding.Sona character become unrealistic.

I have no hope left on Dev.He does not have 1% guts Vicky N Elena have.He cannot shut GKB.

If Sona hides the truth to Ish.Then Sona is equally wrong as Dev.

Sona will be om guilt trip.That she cannot make Ish a grandmother.We can get to see sacrificial lamb avatar of Sona also.
Edited by VIMAL.M - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Payalj_


Tia, what I meant was that Sona is currently just giving Dev sometime to explain himself. She is showing her first loyalty towards her husband instead of her mother in law as the case should be.

Once Dev tells her the truth she would obviously need some time to regroup herself, to deal with the pain. Calling a person mother doesn't make her your real mother. It will not be natural for Sona to run immediately to Ishwari the moment she learns the traumatic truth. Ishwari is not someone she would go for solace.

She would most probably like to sit and cry with her husband, talk to her own mother and then later after garnering inner strength go to Ishwari.

Her taking a few hours or even a day in the process is not unnatural. The problem is gkb will catch hold of the truth before that.

Also in such a time, the last thing on Sona's mind would be ensuring that the blame doesn't come on her or that she should act smart. She is after all in genuine trauma.

Clearing Sona's name should be Dev's responsibility.

Another thing Tia, I really don't understand as to why as per some posts Sona not rushing to tell the truth immediately makes her a doormat?

When she was taking Shit from Dev's family she was acting as a doormat but right now she is not.

I don't understand this definition of feminism. Why does this entail not having feminine qualities of being emotional, empathetic, soft or understanding. Because in my opinion they are a woman's biggest strength not weakness.

Why Sonakshi can only prove her worth as a woman only by clearing her name instantly? Is she not allowed to get weak even momentarily during the most traumatic time in her life?

Being feminist doesn't mean being non feminine.



@Bold - I am guy.I may be not understand Women better.But in real world.These strength of Women's r taken as their weakness.Be it by their own family or husband family.Because some take this strength of Women for granted n exploit this.Husband can do any wrong.But family expect Wife to be empathetic, soft or understanding.Even if husband as EMA or beat her in anger.Family expect Wife to be understanding.Also empathetic.Saying Men will be like this only.They get angry suddenly.Women need to be like Bhooma Devi so clam n empathetic.But some men need to taught lesson.If Bhooma Devi gets angry earthquake come n it destroy many life.Same way if a Women is tortured badly.Men need to be shown Women can be empathetic, soft or understanding to a limit .When they cross limit.It can be disastrous.So I feel Women should not make others use their strength to make them weak n exploit them.If they keep on being empathetic, soft or understanding after all wrongs n lies.Then they r responsible for the misery in their life not others.This apply to Sona also.She is responsible for the misery in her life.Because she allowed Dev to exploit her good nature.She shout n she forgive him easily.After all the wrong he did.She event counter attacked her dad for Dev.Saying U gave me Sanskar n I can handle all the problems.Sona being so selfless is hard to digest for me.She not becoming mother is not painful for her.Dev hiding truth to her is not big deal.How can he hide to his mother.It look like Sona want to become mom just for Ish sake.
Edited by VIMAL.M - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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For all the wrongs n lies of Dev.Sona will be made scapegoat n she will be blamed.If Sona postpone telling the truth to Ish because of Dev.Then Sona is responsible for her state.I will not blame Dev or any one.

I wanted to add one more point.Now a days many family don't do any medical test before marriage.Rarely some do blood test.After marriage only.Some find out reg infertility issue.So Dev marrying Sona knowing truth reg her medical condition.Cannot be a justification to Dev wrong doings n cannot come to conclusion.Dev love Sona.So he hided the truth.For me it look.Dev knew Sona will back off from marriage.He cannot convince Ish.He have to marry Sona at any cost.So he hided the truth.If Bijoy comes to know this also.He need to be angry.Dev did not do any big favor according to me.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Because of laddoo drama...Ishu is not feeling well...so definitely Sona will about to tell her...she will face same low BP issue ...We saw in segment ...where Dev-Sona was looking for Ishu...Sona has BP machine in her hand...So definitely Sona is not going to tell her this episode because as Ishu's doctor ..she knows that if she is telling truth...it is not right time...but next day she will tell definitely...But before GKB will do all...as my observation but like always my all observations failed for this show...and specially failed in this track ...Let's see.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Tia, is truth the most underrated in this world or overrated?
Before I launch into my explanation, I want to make it very very clear that I for one was against / never convinced in the route Dev took to fix the infertility issue. Not for a second. Coz after having lost Sona once, he should have known quick fixes do not solve life issues.

And now that we have that matter addressed, let me get back to the honour and power of truth.

As children we are constantly goaded by our parents to speak the truth. As young adults, we are constantly taught the virtue of honesty be it by our parents or teachers. People are often held to higher moral standards with truth as the basis of such standards. So, I have a question...Why then do all human beings ...yes, I say all human beings without exceptions...speak lies when it one feels it is necessary. I am not distinguishing the difference between white and dark lies...small and big lies...we are talking lies...period.

I believe people lie when they are cornered. People lie to escape punishment. People lie to please. People lie to not lose. People lie to gain. People lie to achieve their personal greed etc etc etc.

While I will not condone the lie Dev told Sona that she is pregnant when she was not as it emotionally the most cruel lie a man can tell his wife...I think I understand why he did so. First of all, let us not forget that Dev is not the strongest of characters...he is pure love and most endearing but he is not strong.

Dev knew his mother had not accepted Sona and Dev knows Sona's infertility issue. And so, when he saw his mother's changed demeanour due to pregnancy news...he wanted to buy time with his lie. As that lie will save his wife a lifelong punishment of having to live with a mother-in-law who has problems with her daughter-in-law and vice versa. He probably feared that he would one day lose Sona once again if his mother continued to belittle his wife and he didn't want to lose at any cost this time around. He also wanted to please his mother and Dev was brought up to please his mother since he was a young boy.

And truth ...that Sona was not pregnant and may never be a mother through natural means may very well end even the threadbare peace between Ishwari and Sona. The truth was too bitter and it could change his life forever one way or the other and in a irrevocable fashion.

In a situation like that...humans tend to embrace lies. They believe the lies will buy them time to fix problems. I am not saying it is the right thing to do nor am I saying lies fix problems...but at times they do buy people time to fix problems.

Sorry for ranting away on your thread...and I don't mean to propagate lies ...just saying humans lie to escape punishment and Dev lied so that he does not have to choose between his wife and mother.


P.S - Having said all of the above...I expect Dev to finally to speak the emotional truth the way he sees it ..that motherhood or not..Sona is his love and wife and will remain so for ever and ever. Anyone who has a problem, he needs to handle them for Sona for Sona in her broken and guilty state may take all insults coming her way.

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