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Posted: 8 years ago
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Just one thing - We dont know what this said doctor is hoping to treat Sonakshi with (and of what condition) and we dont know if that procedure is an experiment or not.
Consent still remains the focal point of this discussion however
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Posted: 8 years ago
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what dev is thinking of doing is wrong and he knows that very well and we all, but he is mr. dixit and we all know how implusive person he is. anyways nothing will happen as sonakshi will figure it out and dev will know the hard way of his foolish thinking. lets wait and watch how things unfold.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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First of all it's illogical track..cvs have not done home work properly. The treatment for infertility is not easy and cannot be done over night. It would take min 3 months. To start medication sonakskhi shd get period first. After that only it starts.

Coming to giving medicine to any person without consult is offensive. Though treatment has not started but he agreed with doctor and he signed agreement. So it is illegal. In India once married husband thinks he has all the right on wife. But he forgets she is individual too and she has her own interests and likings too. If Dev had discussed with sonakshi about this, sonakskhi would have happily underwent all the tough process.
Just for short and non existing happiness he dig grave himself. That's so sad about it.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yes I agree to all of you. The way u guys present it seems like dev maybe called a criminal. But still somehow the term seems too harsh for him.
Some of you points that I would like to elaborate :
Firstly I think we are trivialising his intention. It's not just so that ishwari will love sona. However it may seem to us it really is a really great deal for them. And why won't it be she was the one always against them tried to keep them away. So now they suddenly feel the acceptance and love... Isn't it obvious they are overwhelmed and want to hold on to it.( this is how dev and sona see it. I know this is not good enough reason but it maybe for them)
And also we are looking at situation through our eyes... Dev yet doesn't know it's fake love. He things his dream is coming genuinely true.
Secondly the cancer treatment example. The situation is different here. Here sona's life is not in any danger and I trust dev enough to always first assure her safety. If he is able to go through this(which he will 100% not be able to) then he would have never exposed her to any threat.
That's all I have to say now. I know this is not enough to remove the tag of criminal but I don't know still feel criminal is a bit too harsh. Though I do agree to all u people have said.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: YASHO1997

Yes I agree to all of you. The way u guys present it seems like dev maybe called a criminal. But still somehow the term seems too harsh for him.

Some of you points that I would like to elaborate :
Firstly I think we are trivialising his intention. It's not just so that ishwari will love sona. However it may seem to us it really is a really great deal for them. And why won't it be she was the one always against them tried to keep them away. So now they suddenly feel the acceptance and love... Isn't it obvious they are overwhelmed and want to hold on to it.( this is how dev and sona see it. I know this is not good enough reason but it maybe for them)
And also we are looking at situation through our eyes... Dev yet doesn't know it's fake love. He things his dream is coming genuinely true.
Secondly the cancer treatment example. The situation is different here. Here sona's life is not in any danger and I trust dev enough to always first assure her safety. If he is able to go through this(which he will 100% not be able to) then he would have never exposed her to any threat.
That's all I have to say now. I know this is not enough to remove the tag of criminal but I don't know still feel criminal is a bit too harsh. Though I do agree to all u people have said.


Here It is about sonakskhi health. When it is about her health, how his intention will be correct. Do you know side effects of those hormones. Have you seen blown up women after taking hormonal injections. Do you know the ivf is how stressful treatment is. My friend has taken 21 injections. Some are so painful, she could not move her thies for couple of days. I have seen how painful it is. It's like going to hospital morning and evening. She went through twice this proceedure still not successful. It is so physically and mentally taxing. After seeing all these stressful proceedure, I have some kind of scariness in my heart.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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OK now u make him sound like he has this plan of torturing his wife. As I said I strongly believe he would never endanger sona's health. But this is still on the assumption it's ivf right?. We don't know that yet.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: YASHO1997

OK now u make him sound like he has this plan of torturing his wife. As I said I strongly believe he would never endanger sona's health. But this is still on the assumption it's ivf right?. We don't know that yet.


If not ivf..It might be similar kind of treatment. Otherwise he will never get positive report.

I wish if they had shown Dev giving period post pone tablets instead of this treatment. Then he could borrow time. You know sonakshi skipped that month does not mean she will get next month. .so it can happen anytime. Cvs did very bad homework😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ummm...You say that the term is very harsh? But my dear friend THAT IS WHAT IT IS. HARSH. because what Dev is doing is a criminal offense in India and many other countries. Like some one said such acts are justified only in the case of self defense or for preserving of life. Otherwise , the simple word for the person doing such an act is called Criminal according to law.

Also , you said that dev's sentiments are not wrong. YES, I will agree to that but sentiments and law dont go together and by any means he will be called a criminal. Also , not everybody's body is prepared for this treatment..many people actually test it out before takinf the procedure or they are stable enough and courageous enough to handle this...which Sonakshi did not go through... what if by anychance it hurts her? , what if she is not mentally prepared for this? . What will dear Dev"s intentions and sentiments do now? Before you say that this is just an assumption i would like to say that everything happening in the show ( for the treatment) is just decided and not implemented so ANY THING can be imagined and thought of. Also , it is a kind of criminal offense to actually think about doing an illegal act and not backing from it because of guilt consciousness if caught red handed ( in this case half of the plan is executed) ..which dev is not planning to do so.. till now he is very much in mood to fo through the treatment..


P.s i realize that Dev has no bad intentions to be considered a criminal but by law he will be considered one . The plan is not to harm her but it can harm her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: YASHO1997

OK now u make him sound like he has this plan of torturing his wife. As I said I strongly believe he would never endanger sona's health. But this is still on the assumption it's ivf right?. We don't know that yet.



All we r saying is they have been married less than 2 months ... Why jump to serious fertility treatments where as he could simply tell that test is negative but this he will not wait for 5 yrs . Ish will be happy .he would have time and sonas consent to do the treatments if they cant conceive in 6 months.. Why does he not want to try.. Like i said in another posts my doctors told me i can not conceive with out treatments but i did on my own twice... So see doctors can only tell u what they think but that may not be true all the time... Jumping to operate on a pimple without giving time to heal itself is wrong on several accounts..

So yes he is not a criminal yet but he is on the path to become one.
Edited by dlavanya - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I want to mention an incident shown in Crime Patrol here -


There were 4 people who would make a job out of kidnapping new born kids from parents to provide them to parents who either cannot become parents or cannot adopt child lawfully due to weird Indian laws (such as family income etc) or because they want a specific gender kid and is not having even after multiple try (both girl or boy). The receivers of the kids didnt know that the organization is kidnapping those kids and giving them. They just got the kids and are ecstactic and were asked 'aam khaao gutli kiun gin rahe ho' upon asking from where these kids are coming from. The kids started to grow in those new parents with much care and love and have lovely upbringing for a considerable period of time.


One day the gang is caught and all the kids were taken back from the rearing parents and were given back to their respective birth parents. Not just that, along with the gang people, the rearing parents were arrested as well for not abiding by the law. They were in emotional distraught since they truly loved those kids as their own but destiny snatched them away, but law doesnt take that into consideration so those parents are arrested too.


This is what we are trying to say, intention doesnt matter when it's a crime. If so, all the tortured and deprived people would start murdering all the evil people who tortured them throughout and the 'intention' would still be right. Even if you read the history of terrorism, they also had valid reasons to avenge the powerfuls. It's not the intention, it'd the action that matters. Yes intention can lessen the punishment in India (not in first world countries) but it cannot put one above law even if one is like the messiah of the whole world. 😊

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