Taking a stand for your wife only can make you an Ideal Person? ?? - Page 5

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.kashishbano. thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: aarcha

Dev n vicky..actually these 2 characters r poles apart. Both r flawed. To b frank, i didn even want to compare these 2.

Dev is a self made person, with a bitter childhood ,who lost his dad @ a very young age. He had seen his mom struggling to take care of their family .He considers his mom as God. He's a very devoted son n brother.He loves his family immensely.His personality characteristic is if he wants something, he'll go to any extent to achieve that. He thinks money can make everything possible. He got sona fired from her job so that he can hire her as his mom's personal nutritionist. His intentions r always good but execution is nt always right. He's compassionate nt only towards his family, but to others as well.

But he easily falls prey to emotional blackmailing esp by his mom. I can never consider him as spineless (becoz if he's really spineless, he wudn b able to confess his luv to sona after natasha engagement fiasco, also he didn go to sona engagement with ritwick as in both these incidents maataji had denied her approval ) but an emotional fool.. yess he foolishly affected by emotions n soon starts the guilt ride. That's y he didn think twice during that sleeping pills drama to broke up with his luv sona. He did a grave mistake there as he took that decision by himself without proper thinking. He shud've discuss that with sonakshi n both can wait for some more time so that everything get sorted out. But then dev ki deewangi ka kyaa ??

After marriage sona had to face so many taunts in dixit mansion. She tried to defend herself but dev cudn do the same most of the time. He's very respectful to his elders that's y he finds it hard to defend his wife always but he did defended sona wen ever possible. But i wud luv to c dev voicing for sona against taunts if she's right bcoz every time nt everyone is right . So support u'r wife if she's right , NO MATTER WHAT. Dev's character is improving a lot these days . Another thing i liked about dev is he never manhandle sona. I had watched a few shows only & had seen most of the heroes manhandle the heroines. Sometimes it seemed romantic but most of the time it ends with hurting but this in turn leads to passionate luv 😆 most cliched scenes in a tv soap !!

Vicky...the less said the better..but one thing..if he's genuine, his dialogue 'agar bahu jaayegi, beta bhi ghar se jaayega ' is definitely an assurance to elena which is definitely needed for her after this elopement.

In short everything is needed in a correct proportion ...lil bit of dev( aubhothro nature ), vicky (wickedness ), Ishwari (possessiveness), sona (mahanta ) but if it becomes more than the required amount, it leaves a sour taste .


I agree that the Dev and Vicky are not comparable .
There is a much difference in their personality as well as in their thinking.
Dev thought about his family and mother and took a drastic step and broke up with Sona .
Whereas vicky get elope with Elena and got married.
If Dev has chosen Sona and just threaten Ishwari as vicky did, that will make them happy.No they will never be happy.
And moreover if vicky is taking a stand for his wife he should have stand from the beginning itself, he didn't utter a single word when GKB was accusing and taunting the upbringing of elena.

And as you said Dev is improving and he took the stands for Sona many a times, but I think sona don't need his voice everytime to prove herself right.
And I feel that man shouldn't interfere in each a nd every matter related to the house ladies.As they can handle it on their own.
The every time interfere of a man in the issue, it can worsen the condition and the atmosphere of the house will no more calm.

And I agree with your last para. Everything needs to be in correct amount.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#42
there is an unending list of dev's good deeds and we keep bashing him unnecessary
Tia.0 thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
#43
I did not see Vicky begging for respect through blackmail. He made a clear statement that not accepting his wife means they will have to let him go. That is an obvious statement because obviously a husband's place is with his wife the same way a wife's place with her husband.

This is not a new concept.

Well, may be for men.

But if a woman's family doesn't accept her husband, she says the same thing. Then we don't say that it's asking for respect at knife's point. We say that she is such a great wife.

What Vicky and Elena did was selfish. Definitely.

But what would had any good husband done if Radha had refused to accept Elena? Dump his love like yesterday's newspaper? May be he was bluffing about leaving with Elena but it worked and it will work every time because his family unlike Dev's don't take him for granted.

I agree that Vicky is a moocher and Elena is useless. I am not saying he is a good human being or even I said that he is a leach and I wanted to slap Elena for being so selfish.

But he is the one who made the suggestion to elope just like Dev was the one who once proposed to Sonakshi. If he had ditched her at the first sign of family opposition, then Vicky would have been just like Dev. It's called making a commitment and keeping it.

A woman's respect in her husband's house comes from her husband's attitude towards her in front of his family. Every married woman here knows that.

When a husband stands beside his wife, his family never in a million years can insult his wife because no family wants to insult their boy. But when the same husband stands silent while his wife is insulted, he gives open license to his family to abuse his wife and drives the point home that his wife's disrespect means nothing to him

Yes, a woman can fight for her dignity. She can also refuse to live with her husband's family when they are so insulting. The least the husband can do for the favour she had done on him by letting him have his family and wife at the same time while she is without her family is to stand by her and not watch her being verbally insulted silently.

Dev has just started to learn to stand up for his wife. Vicky may be leach but he didn't let Elena get insulted even once from the first step into their married life even though she and Vicky deserved to be insulted. What he did right, he did right. His other bad aspects can't take it away from his one good deed.

But you are certainly entitled to your point of view.

Originally posted by: .kashishbano.


For being an ideal husband taking a stand for your wife is not enough.
He should not beg the respect on the peak of knife.
One should earn respect.

Vicky just black mailed his mom as he knew his mom loves him a lot what ishwari did in Dev's case.

And your responsibility towards your wife is not only that you support her but you should first make your selves and be independent and gave a level to your wife in your house.

As shameless are fearless said by Saumiee, perfectly goes for vicky.

And moreover why a wife needs a husband to take up the stand on her behalf, can't she put her own point.

And Dev took the stand for Sona when the limits was crossed as he knows she is a matured women and can handle the situation with maturity as he did in muh Dikahi rasam.

With respect I disagree with you.

Edited by tia.o - 8 years ago
.kashishbano. thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: tia.o

I did not see Vicky begging for respect through blackmail. He made a clear statement that not accepting his wife means they will have to let him go. That is an obvious statement because obviously a husband's place is with his wife the same way a wife's place with her husband.

This is not a new concept.

Well, may be for men.

But if a woman's family doesn't accept her husband, she says the same thing. Then we don't say that it's asking for respect at knife's point. We say that she is such a great wife.

What Vicky and Elena did was selfish. Definitely.

But what would had any good husband done if Radha had refused to accept Elena? Dump his love like yesterday's newspaper? May be he was bluffing about leaving with Elena but it worked and it will work every time because his family unlike Dev's don't take him for granted.

I agree that Vicky is a moocher and Elena is useless. I am not saying he is a good human being or even I said that he is a leach and I wanted to slap Elena for being so selfish.

But he is the one who made the suggestion to elope just like Dev was the one who once proposed to Sonakshi. If he had ditched her at the first sign of family opposition, then Vicky would have been just like Dev. It's called making a commitment and keeping it.

A woman's respect in her husband's house comes from her husband's attitude towards her in front of his family. Every married woman here knows that.

When a husband stands beside his wife, his family never in a million years can insult his wife because no family wants to insult their boy. But when the same husband stands silent while his wife is insulted, he gives open license to his family to abuse his wife and drives the point home that his wife's disrespect means nothing to him

Yes, a woman can fight for her dignity. She can also refuse to live with her husband's family when they are so insulting. The least the husband can do for the favour she had done on him by letting him have his family and wife at the same time while she is without her family is to stand by her and not watch her being verbally insulted silently.

Dev has just started to learn to stand up for his wife. Vicky may be leach but he didn't let Elena get insulted even once from the first step into their married life even though she and Vicky deserved to be insulted. What he did right, he did right. His other bad aspects can't take it away from his one good deed.

But you are certainly entitled to your point of view.


We two have a completely different POV ' S.

As each individual has its own way of thinking and understanding.
You respect my POV and I will respect yours.

So let's get agree atleast on one that We can't be agree with each other on this matter.

Take care and enjoy the show.😃

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Posted: 8 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: .kashishbano.


We two have a completely different POV ' S.

As each individual has its own way of thinking and understanding.
You respect my POV and I will respect yours.

So let's get agree atleast on one that We can't be agree with each other on this matter.

Take care and enjoy the show.😃



I would just say 4 things -

1. Vickey and Elena are two extremely selfish people and they deserved more thrashing than what they got.

2. Supposedly if vickey didn't threaten his mother and his mother didn't accept Elena and Vickey did leave Elena for the sake of his family's happiness. Would we be very happy? Ermm...no. I guess he would be getting more bashing from us than what he is getting already.

Saying that, I would also mention that his approach with Radha Rani might not have been right but the kind of lady she is, she taught her son like that and he gave her exactly what he has seen his mother doing. He did what he knew will work on his mother.

3. Thirdly, it's very easy to say that a wife can talk for herself at her in laws. But only a married woman knows that she gets the guts to talk only from her husband. If you don't get that support from your husband, then there's no meaning of talking.

4. Taking a stand for your wife only can't make you an ideal person. I agree 100% with that statement. But not taking a stand for your wife even when she is right also doesn't make you an ideal man. In fact, a man who takes a stand for the right thing, is always an ideal man. And in that way, neither Dev nor Vickey is ideal here. For Dev, Ishwari can never be wrong and for Vickey, whatever he thinks is the right thing. The first one acts foolish as per his convenience and the second one is a super cunning guy who just knows how to twist things to fulfill his own needs.
Edited by nidhi2013 - 8 years ago
.FlyingClouds. thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
#46
I completely agree with you dii...😃😳
Bang on post 👏
Exactly what I was thinking...😊
.kashishbano. thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: .FlyingClouds.

I completely agree with you dii...😃😳

Bang on post 👏
Exactly what I was thinking...😊


Thank you so much Aditi for the appreciation as well as support.🤗
.kashishbano. thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: DevakshiCrazy

Excellent post dear 👏


Thanks a lot😃 dear
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Posted: 8 years ago
#49
I beg to differ with u. Cause the mere mention of Dev learning from Vicky to stand up for wife from viewers just explains the disintegration of character Dev in viewers eye. Scarifying love for mom LOL r u kidding me . He from the beginning has been tour hearing Sona, b it forcefully expelling form her job, forcefully employing her, cancelling her fishtail etc. this is so 90 movies scarifying for mom. Ya right dude u suck as Boyfriend.
I dig for blogs which I read couple of years back . Which is quite similar to this one. Here the FL gets pregnant though ignorant the mL leads her. The ML engulfed with fear that FL will claim child as ML start abusing her. All this while ML remains oblivious to plight of FL. Couple of years after he finds her with his child. ML rubs to court to give legal name to child. But what FL said is what I admired. She just tells the judge that the sperm donor raped her physically n emotionally in pretext of marriage, whereas the court by admitting this case is labelling her as a wh**e. Her reason being just because she is an unwed mother can any Tom dick n Harry can move the court to for paternity testing. Case is decided in her favour . At the end she says U LEaRn from ur mistakes u don't marry them.

So u c y I beg to differ with ur views.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#50
I dont think you can compare dev and vicky. Dev is a good husband in many ways, but he does have a lot of flaws also. But it is all logical because dev and sona are also just martied a couple of weeks. So we can not expect dev to be an ideal husband already. To become a good husband u learn from your mistakes and try to do better. I can see dev doing that in baby steps.
Now comes vicky. He is just a person with a black heart. Cannot see any good part in him. I can not believe how cv's are showing that running away and marring without informing your parents is just a normal case. And afterwards everyone exepts it. What a message they are giving our youngsters. And it is not possible that he changed in 1 day. That he stood up for Elina is because he does not respect his elders, he has no respect for anyone. So you can expect him to ditch elina anytime. Like he did with his parents just now.

So for me dev is not an ideal husband yet(but can see him going that way). And vicky is faaar away from being a good husband/person he is just married for 1 day. So how can we compare anyway?

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