Taking a stand for your wife only can make you an Ideal Person? ?? - Page 3

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Posted: 8 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: baijubavra

With due respect I disagree with you.

First step that vicky took that is only wrong, getting elope from the house and getting married ..
With this kind of marriage it is better to face a break up.
When one can't think about his parents respect for the sake of a girl then what is the guarantee that he will respect his wife In future.

I knew Dev broke up with sona, at that time what can he do when his mother his on the dead bed.
she is the women who gave him the birth and just for his love , he should forget the mother.
As it is said that if you let your life in your mothers feet it will not be a pie of the pain she go through to bring you in the world.
So just for his love, h should left his mother in unpeaceful condition.



Dev also did not ask his mother for approval before starting his relationship with Sona and kept continuing it for a long time thus betraying her trust. He took a hasty one sided decision without even informing Sona at his mother's disapproval of his relationship. I undersatnd that she was on the deathbed at that time but Dev could have asked Sona to stay away for some time so he could discuss the situation with her later when things settled. He then did not let her move on because HE could not live without her. All in all , Dev acted as if Sona is a thing that he owns and he can decide what he wants to do with it. I treat my pets better than that actually! He ditched her several times later also without informing her and discussing with his mother to be a little flexible with her plans and demands again treating Sona and Asha as low level things that he owns. Vicky also made a decision to have a relationship with Elena without parental consent but atleast he did not break his promise to another human being that he had already made. His past is not as glorious as Dev but he looks to be on the mend. Also Vicky has already seen all the family drama before so he may have just taken a short cut knowing his family very well. He is an impulsive and immature guy to start with so no high hopes from him. So the bottom line for me is although Vicky is no where close to a perfect man so far , his behavior today shows that he atleast respects the trust of other humans apart from his own family and can discuss with his family in conflicting situations instead of betraying them.

Just my POV.

I think we are on that point where we can't be agree with each other POV

So I respect your POV.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nice post but have to disagree slightly. Both dev & Vicky are flawed! One more so than the other. As we have seen both have manipulated situations to suit themselves. We feel it's ok in devs case as it always for his family. But in vickys case it is for himself. So i don't think either are ideal husbands!
We all compromise & grow in our relationships & they are showing it with dev & sona. But unfortunately dev takes 1 step forward only to move back 5.
A man has learn to balance both mom & wife. He is taking baby steps but never fully defends his wife. Vicky by doing so does not become an ideal husband. Probably in this track dev might learn how to stand up for his wife & im sure Vicky will learn nothing from dev.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: DMGFan-2b-not2b

No. Just standing up for your wife does not make you an ideal person.

You can do all of what you have listed, but if you don't stand up for the person whom you have brought in your home, away from her home and familiar ground, against your motjer's wishes, then you cannot hope to ever be an ideal person...


Frankly, Dev pursued Sona, confessed his love, romanced her only to dump her cos mother dear did not approve. He didn't ask Ishwari before romancing Sona and didn't ask Sona before dumping her for Ishwari... hardly signs of an ideal person!



Made a nuisance of himself, stalked Sona and then barged drunk on her engagement ceremony, not exactly the ideal man!


Got married, let everyone in his house behave as they liked with bSona and kept quiet, the time that is the most romantic between a newly married couple was constantly disturbed by his mother and he chose to pander to his mother rather than give his wife time abd vspace, hardly an ideal man!


Every man with an iota of brains will tell you that the first few days are a struggle finding balance between mother and wife and you need to manage both, but what does Dev do? Does everything mama dear says and pretends that everything is fine as long as his mother is happy and he feels so. Hardly the signs of an ideal man!



He could have redeemed himself by standing up for his wife and at least been the ideal husband or a better one than he has been so far, sadly he has a long way to go before he can be anyone's ideal man!

I agree that Dev broke up with sona without involving her in the decision but at that moment did he had the time to give he thought when he heard that his mother's life is in danger because of his love life.

I agree he stalked her but he had the guts to accept the mistakes what he did, did vicky accepted it in front of his family that he is the one who make elena elope from the house.

Did vicky tried to convince the girls parents atleast after the marriage.
No, he us thinking of himself only, he convinced his parents just because he have to stay in the house by threatening them.

And moreover is it Dev's fault that his family keep knocking his door.
And if they come every time and keep knocking his door, it means he is the only support they can ask for.

And whenever sona needed support he did either verbally it morally.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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I like how you have listed Dev and Vicky's characteristics below. I have bolded the ones I like and have given my two cents worth

Originally posted by: .kashishbano.



Let me tell what is Dev and what is Vicky.

Dev... A man who struggle his entire life to get the peaceful bread and butter for his family.
A man who have lost his childhood to earn money and to become the support of his mother.
A man who thinks about others before himself.
A man who thinks about his sisters desires before himself.
A man who keep his family above all his desires.
A man who don't give a single thought before fulfilling the wishes of his family.
A man who understand the favours of his uncle and in his bad days he became his support.

A man who loves to eat the any dish made by his mother even if he is not feeling to eat just to keep his mother's heart.

I agree that the above describes Dev. He is a Selfless Man

He chose to hurt himself than hurting his mother.

I disagree on this because when you fall in Love or in a relationship it is not only about you it is also about your partner and here Dev did make a mistake There are innumerable occasions that Dev should have stood up for Sona like when Mamiji insults her , his birthday etc but what I am deducing from the WU is that Dev is slowly but surely learning and that to me is character growth

And he made mistakes as he is a man and very well know how to rectify the mistakes and it really take a lots of guts to accept the mistakes.

This I agree

Vicky...A man who is a brat, used to tease the girls.

A man who never ever earn a single pie on his own.

A man who along with his mom play tricks to get money from his brother.

A man who can lie to any extent to fulfill his desires.

A man who got the job because of his mother's black mailing but didn't know the ethics of work.

A man who betrayed a brother who trust him by taking a huge amount from the company.

A man who can't respect his mom, a Mother who made the Halwa with so much love for him .

A man who don't know how to respects the relations.
He behaved badly with his Bhabhi

A man who didn't gave a thought about his family before getting elope and getting married.

You have described Vicky perfectly.I for one do not believe in giving any Brownie points to Vicky for his so called stand today because it may also have an ulterior motive going by his track record and he is not trustworthy

A man will be a man who respect every relation, for whom each relationship has a level of responsibility and fulfilling all the responsibilities before thinking about ourself. As every relation has its own place.

This I agree every relationship has its place and its importance some more important than others and we all have to learn to balance it



So guys tell me can taking a stand for your wife only can make a man an Ideal Person .
As far as this goes I believe a Husband is

In answer to your question I would just like to say respect is a huge part in a marriage when someone disrespects your spouse it is a personal disrespect on the relationship that you have with the other person so if taking a stand is needed when your spouse is being disrespected that is the call of the hour which in the past Dev has failed to do and maybe now learning to


P.S.
If I had said more and have hurt someone, I am really sorry, I have just pour my heart and no intentions to hurt and bashed any character.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: preethik

Nice post but have to disagree slightly. Both dev & Vicky are flawed! One more so than the other. As we have seen both have manipulated situations to suit themselves. We feel it's ok in devs case as it always for his family. But in vickys case it is for himself. So i don't think either are ideal husbands!
We all compromise & grow in our relationships & they are showing it with dev & sona. But unfortunately dev takes 1 step forward only to move back 5.
A man has learn to balance both mom & wife. He is taking baby steps but never fully defends his wife. Vicky by doing so does not become an ideal husband. Probably in this track dev might learn how to stand up for his wife & im sure Vicky will learn nothing from dev.


Thanks for liking the post.😃

As you said both are flawed I agree as no one on the earth is perfect.

But my point is that one need to learn from a person who can only be a good husband and not a good human.

And moreover vicky didn't took even the proper stand for Elena as he didn't say that he made elena elope.

And agree vicky will never learn anything from Dev.

And I don't want Dev to learn anything from Vicky which is from Vicky side is light of four days.

What Dev is doing is best taking small steps towards managing wife and mother is enough.Slow and steady wins the race

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Posted: 8 years ago
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What if Ishwari or Mamaji or Dev had asked Vicky to leave the home with his wife ..do you think he would have left Dixit mansion to struggle on roads for his wife ?

Forget standing up ..he would run to his mom begging her to fix the situation and worst come worse he will ditch Elena if needed.His so called famous dialogue was only for RR because he knows his mom will not kick him out of the house
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy

What if Ishwari or Mamaji or Dev had asked Vicky to leave the home with his wife ..do you think he would have left Dixit mansion to struggle on roads for his wife ?

Forget standing up ..he would run to his mom begging her to fix the situation and worst come worse he will ditch Elena if needed.His so called famous dialogue was only for RR because he knows his mom will not kick him out of the house


Thats what I am saying! Vicky and RR are like each other and when he blackmailed RR it did not feel bad to me because that is the language she understands and Vicky knows this. 😆
Edited by baijubavra - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy

What if Ishwari or Mamaji or Dev had asked Vicky to leave the home with his wife ..do you think he would have left Dixit mansion to struggle on roads for his wife ?

Forget standing up ..he would run to his mom begging her to fix the situation and worst come worse he will ditch Elena if needed.His so called famous dialogue was only for RR because he knows his mom will not kick him out of the house


Exactly dear that his famous dialogue is only a dialogue and it is not a stand and it will call stand when with their entry in the home if he would have stop GKB for bashing elena, it would be stand when he accept infront of the family that he made elena elope.
It is just a manipulative dialogue and on saying he went to conciliate dev too as we knew he is having all the luxurious life just because of Dev
Edited by .kashishbano. - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: gemini54

I like how you have listed Dev and Vicky's characteristics below. I have bolded the ones I like and have given my two cents worth


Thank you for liking and respecting POV.
.As each individual has its own point of view, I respect yours POV too.
Posted: 8 years ago
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Di.. Tight hug meri Taraf se... :)

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