Balance: Part 2 EDITED:Page 1

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Yesterday I talked about Balance and its importance.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/kuch-rang-pyar-ke-aise-bhi/4736226/balance-edited-on-oct-21

That post brought out some excellent conversation from some very intelligent point of view.

And nothing inspires and stimulates me like an open discussion with smart people.

So thank you for all your comments. I appreciate it.

Some of you made some very good points and suggestions to maintain balance. Particularly the analogy on the bus driver hit home for most of you. (It shows how many of us use public transport and how frustrating it gets).

So I got from my point of view and others, there were three solutions for the new passenger.

1. She can still jump out of the bus.

2. She can convince the bus driver why it's unfair and fight for her rights.

3. She can keep standing in hopes of beautiful scenery that was promised to her in this journey and try to divert her attention from the unfair treatment, waiting for her turn forever until the older passenger gets down.


For the bus driver, the balanced approach I suggested was, to tell his long-time passenger that he is expecting a new passenger, so please keep within her space. Now they both have to make an effort so that the new passenger feels welcome.

As well as make sure the old passenger understand her designated area, so that she doesn't approach the new passenger's area and the new passenger doesn't feel discomfort or regret her decision to board the bus in the first place.

But I think, as all of you pointed out, that balanced approach seems beyond our driver's capability.


So what could be a solution?


I think, the bus driver should inform the old passenger that he is tired of driving the bus for so long. He'd like to rest and since the new passenger has previous experience of driving her family's bus, she can take over.

The original driver can then become the assistant who fills the tank, cleans the bus and do other maintenance, just he won't drive or decide which roads they should take to reach their destination.

The older passenger won't make space for the new passenger but she will make space for the original driver because of his long and faithful service.

The new passenger then can ride in comfort in the driving seat and steer the bus the way she wants to go.

Thoughts?


Episode tied in Balance: Part 3 - https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4737011

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Yesterday I talked about Balance and its importance.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/kuch-rang-pyar-ke-aise-bhi/4736226/balance-edited-on-oct-21

That post brought out some excellent conversation from some very intelligent point of view.

And nothing inspires and stimulates me like an open discussion with smart people.

So thank you for all your comments. I appreciate it.

Some of you made some very good points and suggestions to maintain balance. Particularly the analogy on the bus driver hit home for most of you. (It shows how many of us use public transport and how frustrating it gets).

So I got from my point of view and others, there were three solutions for the new passenger.

1. She can still jump out of the bus.

2. She can convince the bus driver why it's unfair and fight for her rights.

3. She can keep standing in hopes of beautiful scenery that was promised to her in this journey and try to divert her attention from the unfair treatment, waiting for her turn forever until the older passenger gets down.


For the bus driver, the balanced approach I suggested was, to tell his long-time passenger that he is expecting a new passenger, so please keep within her space. Now they both have to make an effort so that the new passenger feels welcome.

As well as make sure the old passenger understand her designated area, so that she doesn't approach the new passenger's area and the new passenger doesn't feel discomfort or regret her decision to board the bus in the first place.

But I think, as all of you pointed out, that balanced approach seems beyond our driver's capability.


So what could be a solution?


I think, the bus driver should inform the old passenger that he is tired of driving the bus for so long. He'd like to rest and since the new passenger has previous experience of driving her family's bus, she can take over.

The original driver can then become the assistant who will fills the tank, cleans the bus and do other maintenance, just he won't drive or decide which roads they should take to reach their destination.

The older passenger won't make space for the new passenger but she will make space for the original driver because of his long and faithful service.

The new passenger then can ride in comfort in the driving seat and steer the bus the way she wants to go.

Thoughts?



The original driver thinks that nobody can drive better than him; no one knows this journey and its route better than him. So he won't let the new passenger take on the driving seat - the driver has trust issues, has a superiority complex when it comes to shouldering responsibility of the drive and thinks that he and only he has the responsibility and the right to suffer on behalf of old and new passenger.

There could be another probable option - the new passenger has to convince the driver to take her in his lap and arms and drive together - the old passenger will soon get the message 😊

In other words, the new passenger (Sona) has to feed in to the emotional needs of the driver (Dev is currently emotionally manipulated and thereby deprived of the real emotional needs for himself) and showcase the true colors of life - live, love and laugh and help Dev not only in opening up and sharing his emotional turmoil but also move forward and stop clinging to the past. The stronger the bond, the less will be the driver's Obhodro-ness.

The old passenger (Ishwari) will get to see the real side of Dev with the new passenger - and will
automatically realise her folly. Even if she doesn't, she will be forced to create space out of jealousy or the Dev and Sona will make her understand sooner.

What say?


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Tia

Balance maybe a simple word but to actually put into action takes a lot of effort. When we say Balance the most common imagery that comes to mind is maybe a Balance Scale where we put weights on one side and maybe some objects on the other so that the needle at the center is aligned maybe not perfectly but to a certain extent.

Life is always full of Balance whether as a youngster it is Balancing between studies and Fun, As a young Adult Balancing between Job and home, When you are married balancing between when to give each other their space and when not to, when you are mother when to Balance between being strict and being lenient, When you have grown kids when to balance between giving your kids their own space and when to demand attention.

Here in this show it is a 'BALANCE' of three principal characters in my opinion

Sona who has to balance between what she is used to in her home and what she is being put thru at her new home. Her Balance to retain her self but still balancing to be Sonakshi Dixit and rightfully demanding her place as a wife in Dev's life

Dev who has to balance between the two relationship in his life. One with his mother and another with his wife. In order to do this he needs to have clear cut boundaries and that needs communication not blind devotion

Easwari now has to to realize that her son is a Grown Man who has needs, a new wife who has become part of his life a part which is not to take her role away in Dev's life but a part that as a mother she really cannot have.

In order for all this to happen:
Sona needs to recognize Easwari insecurities

Dev needs to reassure Easwari that nothing has changed between her and him but he has a wife and she is also his priority.

Easwari to needs to let Dev grow up. This does not mean away just Grow up and in order for her to do that she needs to Grow up too.

This if portrayed sensitively is a journey which has ups and downs but is beautiful in the end like the needle on the scale which aligns almost to the center.

This show started with promise but the execution of this concept is gone haywire and that is what I think is bothering some of us.

Thanks again my friend for providing a place to have great discussions.

Have a great weekend!


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Pomegranate made this comment on previous balance post which I think is an excellent point for this one.

Marriage is a relationship which people build from scratch. It's not pre-assigned like blood relations.

It starts with two people deciding to spend their entire life with each other.

Now what makes a marriage a bond stronger than blood relation?

The strength lies in its foundation.

If you compare marriage as a home. Then think about the story of three pigs.

They each made home but which one lasted the big bad wolf?

The first pig was so scared of the wolf that he hurriedly built his home with straws (flimsy, easy to get, but fragile without any support). People who rush into marriage because it's time or everyone said they should sometimes make this mistake. Now they might get lucky and find that the straw they used in a hurry had a stronger hold than they expected. But that's luck. Doesn't happen all the time.

The second pig took a little more time and effort and built the house with wood. It was stronger than the straws but still wasn't good enough. Because even though the material was strong, the foundation was weak. So when the big bad wolf huffed and puffed, the house did not break down like the first pig's house, but due to weak foundation, it could not keep it's hold on the ground.

The third pig took longest and built a brick house with solid foundation from ground up. He didn't get scared of the wolf or what might happen because he knew without the protection of the house, the wolf will get to him anyway. The wolf came as he was always going to, but he could not huff and puff his house away nor he could break through the walls or shake the foundation.

Moral of the story: A temporary solution may be easy, but it's not always the best solution.

Here, Dev and Sona are Mr. & Mrs. Piggy, the house is their marriage and the big, bad wolf can be anyone who wants to break their house down, be it Ishwari, Radha, Vicky, Infertility Report etc.

The reason I told this story is to follow up on your comment.

The foundation of a rock-solid marriage is mutual trust, respect, of course love and understanding.

If any of them fall weak, the marriage can't stand solidly. Lies are like fungus. It chips away trust little by little and then it chips away respect.

Without trust and respect, understanding crumbles and with three of the four foundation gone, love alone can't hold a marriage up.

Originally posted by: pomegranate

they say a good marriage needs communication and honesty. do dev and sonakshi have that? they lie to not only each other, but others as well.

A good marriage needs many things; honesty, communication, compatibility, respect. if those are there then love and understanding will automatically follow. it is easy to fall in love but it is also easy to fall out of love.

A relationship with dev means a lifetime of compromises, self denial, and suffocation. in reality, not women will tolerate that for too long.

Edited by tia.o - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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That's exactly why the current situation is so frustrating and that's exactly why I was saying that Dev is not ready for a big commitment like marriage.

Everybody looking from outside can see the holes in Dixit family. They are big enough to drive a truck through, pardon the pun. But the only people who can't see it is the Dixit family.

Dev's male ego doesn't allow him to admit that nothing is normal in his life. His relationship with his mother is not normal, her relationship with her three daughters aren't normal, his Mama's relationship with his mother is not normal.

But he is not willing to listen anything.

The solution I provided was for a person who is willing to be equally understanding to his wife as he is expecting his wife to be towards him. But like you, I don't think it will happen.

Originally posted by: sia.krpkab



The original driver thinks that nobody can drive better than him; no one knows this journey and its route better than him. So he won't let the new passenger take on the driving seat - the driver has trust issues, has a superiority complex when it comes to shouldering responsibility of the drive and thinks that he and only he has the responsibility and the right to suffer on behalf of old and new passenger.

There could be another probable option - the new passenger has to convince the driver to take her in his lap and arms and drive together - the old passenger will soon get the message 😊

In other words, the new passenger (Sona) has to feed in to the emotional needs of the driver (Dev is currently emotionally manipulated and thereby deprived of the real emotional needs for himself) and showcase the true colors of life - live, love and laugh and help Dev not only in opening up and sharing his emotional turmoil but also move forward and stop clinging to the past. The stronger the bond, the less will be the driver's Obhodro-ness.

The old passenger (Ishwari) will get to see the real side of Dev with the new passenger - and will
automatically realise her folly. Even if she doesn't, she will be forced to create space out of jealousy or the Dev and Sona will make her understand sooner.

What say?


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Sona should make the people on the bus realize that it is a collective responsibility to run the bus smoothly and they cannot burden one driver or the other to fulfil their whims and fancies. She needs to win more people over on the bus before she goes against the troublesome duo.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Unfortunately, the people in the bus are either clueless or nasty. Hard to reason with people who a. doesn't want to listen to reasoning or b. naturally obnoxious...

Originally posted by: dsr11

Sona should make the people on the bus realize that it is a collective responsibility to run the bus smoothly and they cannot burden one driver or the other to fulfil their whims and fancies. She needs to win more people over on the bus before she goes against the troublesome duo.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Im out until late evening but i will be quietly ffollowing the discussion. It is hard to write a proper reply on my phone
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I like your post as usual, Tia. You know what the only solution I see now is for the driver to drop the old passenger to one of the psychotherapist for a treatment. She is getting out of hand.
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Originally posted by: AnnTaylor

I like your post as usual, Tia. You know what the only solution I see now is for the driver to drop the old passenger to one of the psychotherapist for a treatment. She is getting out of hand.

This is the best solution. I approve

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