Critical Inner voice of Ishwari !!

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Deepa

@deepsel

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Posted: 8 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: sia.krpkab
Thanks for sharing your personal life story and thoughts! Lovely read :)
Appreciate your sorted approach and I guess that stems from seeing it from a point of view where you have been in both places - as a parent as well as daughter/daughter in law.

I am not yet a parent so may be its difficult to understand the psyche of a parent's attachment or obsession (like in ishwari's case). What I fail to comprehend is that a mother who has been so sacrificing and upright is creating trouble for her most loved child?
Both ishwari and dev has faced the same struggle in life (if ishwari had to take care of her kids, dev also lost his childhood and toiled himself like a machine).
She could be selfish, restless, self harming - but why scheming/plotting and manipulative ? Infact she has been extremely mean to Sona, taunting her and degrading her and her family in the past. That's why I would say this is psychological obsession or mental disorder of a low order.

Thank you 😊

Well the problem of Ishwari is she doesn't realize the extend of trouble she creates indirectly for her Son. Thats why I said, she reacts impulsively at the spur of moment without knowing the pain it might cause her loved ones. When she comes to know about it, she regrets very badly. Even in todays episode in the spur of anger (when Dev passed that chip secretly and left) she lashes on Sona and on seeing her teary eyes immediately consoles her.

To support my theory

* Dev feeds breakfast and waits to say bye to Sona - Ishwari lashes Sona

* Dev sends secret gift for Sona - Ishwari asks Dev to drop Buaji

Both these are the reactions of her anger and jealousy for Dev's action and it is not a manipulation. I am sure even on monday something might trigger her to talk about fasting. I feel Ishwari herself doesnt know the reason for her behavior because she is currently clouded by insecurity and jealousy. The more Devakshi tries to ignore her and have a world on their own, the more trouble will be caused. This can be solved only by the assurance and care from both Dev and Sona that she is not going to be sidelined !

You can call her mentally unstable/ psycotic if she physically hurt Sona from reaching Dev or sit and plan for hours how to degrade Sona's image in his eyes like in other serials😆 But here she is not, as I said she just uses the situations to her advantage. I am not condoning her actions but just saying she is not evil and nasty as portrayed here but an overly obsessive insecure mom 😳

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ashakd

@ashakd

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Posted: 8 years ago

#12

Hey Deeps,

thats a dramtic entry from your side. Never expected you , but shows, how best the makers have ignited something in you, which made you find time.

You have given a very beautiful expression to yesterdays episode. Trust me this not the last of such episodes, we will have many many more coming.

I actually agree to all that you say. Ishwari is not at fault, she is in a delusional world and her past experience has thought her many many lessons. She is neither educated nor belongs to a affluent family since childhood. She has learnt her lessons the hard way and for such people, there is a hindi saying: doodh ka jala , chaas bhi pook pook ke pitha hai.

So Ishwari has a subconcious mind which has over powered her thinking and she has woven fears and worries, which need to be weeded out one by one.

The only lesson or advise I would give to Dev is : Women need to be loved not understood. GIve each one their share of love, then you see the magic begin.

Sona, the hand maid of the cv;s will be used , abused and battered till this series ends..

Neha we need you soon. Come back, Sona needs you.

Have a nice weekend, Deeps, sleep well Good night.

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Deepa

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Posted: 8 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: Jiyaaa...
It is nice to read different perspective on Ishwari. I never hated Ishwari. I have seen Mom/MIL feeling insecure. Ishwari case is a little extreme. Even my mom does not like if I talk to my friends for long time. She complains you get time for your friends but not for me. She was not like this few years back. As they grow older, parents wants kids to give more importance to them.
haha exactly..Insecurity trails is there is every parent only the level of dosage differs😆 Some are educated and seen the world to realize their folly of insecurity while others like Ishwari who are uneducated and seen only the darker sides tend to be complex natured for normal people like us to understand !

Ishwari case is a little extreme. May be because she lost her husband at very young age and her life is revolves around her son. She is not evil. As you say, her inner voice stopped her going extreme. She got insecure after seeing Dev giving more importance to Sona. She showed anger on Sona but as soon as she saw Sona getting sad, she came back to normalcy and started consoling Sona.
Same with when she wanted to see that gift, again she stopped doing that. May be because Sona came there.

Yes well observed! She is not a maniac to see people suffer , unknowingly hurts them and regrets immediately when she feels she has crossed the limit !

It is natural to get insecure. But in Iswari's case she is insecure and also obsessed about her son. Ishwari wants everything to be exactly the same in Dev's life, how it was before Sona became his wife. Ishwari is seeing the changes in Dev's life. Ishwari needs to understand that everyone's priority changes over time. I feel more than medical treatment, time will heal ishwari's insecurity, obviously with help from Dev and Sona.

Yes when she got Dev married to Sona, she thought everything will go back to normal and Dev will be happy inturn making her happy. But this new avatar of Dev is puzzling her and she is scared that she won't be the reason for his happiness anymore and that troubles her to know that her place in his life is replaced. And that can be slowly wiped out by the care and concern from Dev and Sona.

I really want to see how Cv's will handle this track. I just hope, they don't turn her in to an evil and physco MIL.

With the recent episodes I believe Cvs do know what they are showing , so I trust them to give us something unique and real 😊

I must say, Supriyaji is so good enacting the "insecure mom" role. Kudos to her.

She is outstanding yaar..If I can empathy with this character its only because of Supriyaji👏

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Deepa

@deepsel

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Posted: 8 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: purva
Liked what you wrote TM.. nice to see a different way of looking at it. I also never hated Ishwari but her today's behavior was really confusing and disturbing. There is definitely some psychological issue which needs to be dealt with delicately. Sadly I don't think CV's care that much.. as long as they get to show drama they wouldn't care about butchering couple of characters in the process

Thank you😊 I can understand your frustration but somewhere with my serial watching I believe these CVs to give us something unique with the way the episodes are shaping. As I replied above, mental disorder patients behave erratically which is not Ishwari 😳. Frankly I was not onboard for the marriage before but now its proving so apt for the initial promo. Ishwari's problem can never be solved from outside , it required Sona and Dev and herself under one hood to bring out the ugly truths out and am loving this !!

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Deepa

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Posted: 8 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: ifuser
I second every sentence what u wrote!
Firstly I want to applaud u for your postings.. I became frequent visitor to this forum since when KRKPB started and I read yours and others postings but I must say I was very very impressed by your thoughts on each character or about the episodes.
Even I agree with this topic about Ishwari's personality. I see people commenting negative about Ishwari's character but let me Tell you whether anyone believes it or not or think it's too dramatic but in reality this type of personalities do exists 8 out of 10 MIL's are just like Ishwari ... they may not be exactly the same but possess different types of insecurities ...
Forget about others in my own family they do exists ...so I'm not seeing any unrealistic here ... and let me tell u they are not bad people either but due to family background or whether it is insecurity of taking over the family head position or possessiveness for the son or could be any other reason but the truth is many women in India are like Ishwari ...
The good part is now the viewers have to learn something about these kind of issues and learn to resolve them
We need to take a benefit of watching such good enlightening serials and instead of just criticizing the character of Ishwari... if we start criticizing every damn thing or on cvs then that means we are axing out the good work\script.
I'm NOT excepting or want the cvs to change the Ishwari character or present track of KRPKAB as I truely beleive in what they showing us

Thank you😊

I guess the negativity is the result of nuclear families and the modernization we are so used to nowadays that it has become indigestible to believe for many that people like Ishwari is living in every nook and corner of the world😆 We are so blinded by the oh so perfect world around us that anything extreme shown is termed as dramatic when infact thats the harsh reality for many !

Yes this is a very sensitive issue as no insecure mom/MIL likes to be called one but if handled carefully can be an eye opener for many such moms to realize their folly..TV is indeed a powerful medium and can be useful one too if used positively !!

Frankly I was thinking from quitting the forum after this week because of all the character bashing and negativity. I love this show and looks like will enjoy the show more if I stayed away. Still hanging around for few like minded members who see the show as a show but don't think I can hang on longer if the nitpicking continues..ya freedom of expression😆.

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saumiee

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Posted: 8 years ago

#16

Ishwari's behaviour was very disturbing, confusing and creepy too, considering how she was invading their privacy and actually going out of the way to keep them away.

But like you said, it is merely Ishwari's insecurities that are impulsively driving her to take such steps. She is not plotting anything, as in 'let me keep Dev and Sonakshi away for ever' , whenever she sees them together , she instinctively wants to keep them away. .and takes a step to immediately take care of it.

Had she plotted, she would herself realise that it not even possible to keep a married couple away by these petty excuses. For how long this could go on?

I hope Dev and Sonakshi see through this behaviour and Ishwari realises what blunder she was commiting.

Her behaviour cannot be justified at all but the reality is even such MILs/mothers exist, though Ishwari is a very exaggerated version of it.

Plus, I think this is the need of the hour for Dev to take a step to stop encouraging this behaviour. I think the more he coaxes her, the more insecure she will be to see them together.

Lets see how things unfold.

Lovely post Deepa😊

Edited by saumiee - 8 years ago

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Deepa

@deepsel

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Posted: 8 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: desigirl987
Deepa , A really warm hug to you for this post !!!🤗 You did research , as part of your work or for this show 😲😲😲 ??? You have explained it beautifully with a pinch of personal experience !!! Cant agree more !!! I am also enjoying this track so much , its getting exciting by each day !!!!

To you too dear 🤗 haha I have been investing quite some time for Ishwari after the "narcissistic mother" "Jocasta complexed mother" "Psychological mother" comments because my inner conscious don't believe her to be all this. ..so ya I researched for the show 😆 Glad to find someone enjoy the show like me because I never thought I would enjoy the post marriage track so much😉 So many possibilities with prenup, infertility , insecurity, Neha & Saurab problems and add a desperate Dev to the mix, am beyond excited !!😆

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Deepa

@deepsel

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Posted: 8 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: Sumuki
Excellent post! What you said is absolutely true! Its not that Ishwari like mom never exist i have seen in aunt's life also. I esp love cvs are great in opening up the deep character in Ishwar. For once,characters are being well studied and even I am waiting how the stories unfold. If many ppl watch this they will be able to learn how to solve the love triangle between DIL MIL and son. As audience, we all can literally learn from this serial. As DIL she can learn what happens when u do something and it will make MIL learn what kinda insecurities they are creating and it will make sons realise the reality and complexity instead of complaining that they are torn between both loved ones! This serial is gg to be extremely close to my heart! very very true to reality. Anyone can relate.

Thank you😊 I agree if this matter is handled carefully it can be very good learning curve for most of hidden moms like Ishwari and also for the kids who can see just the face value of their parents ! KRPKAB has succeeded in hooking me even after 100 episodes so they are doing something right for sure. Lets enjoy and be content😉

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Deepa

@deepsel

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Posted: 8 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: dlavanya
Amazing post deepa.I am in the same boat .. I dont hate ishwari but i understand it is difficult for her to accept changes that are coming her way at super sonic speed. Mr desperate dixit ks not helping the situation. I hope once he and sona understand ishwaris insecurities they will be discrete about their PDA.
Very glued in to the current track..

Thank you 😊 Haha whom to blame here, bechara in full mood to tear his celibacy that his mind is fully clouded with Sona whereas Ishwari's insecurities rise as dark clouds and is bringing thunderstorms. To drench or enjoy is upto us😆. Am absolutely loving this track !!

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havima

@havima

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Posted: 8 years ago

#20

Hi all dearies

Though i hve stalked this forum for half a decade.. i never joined to discuss any show.. watched only IPK nd RR before. But yest episode nd the harsh reality thy hve shown just blew my mind away.

I tried to watch shows with neutral point of view most of the times nd the excellent write ups frm u all apeases my need fr sharing my views. Kudos to u all fr writing so well

My mom has lived thru hell cos of her MIL.. Ishwari is better in front of her.. Krp is similar to my mom' s life.. my parents fell in love nd got married fighting all odds( although thy were related my moms family opposed to the match as they knew of her would be mil's nature).. i will come to it later why i call her my moms mil.

Though thy had a marriage with everyones consent.. my moms nightmare strted aft she shifted to the smaller town with her in laws. As Madhavi posted my parents had to get consent fr everything frm their in laws for their private time..

But the horror dawned on my mother aft my parents spend time together.. the older lady used to bawl her eyes out nd create so much scene tht half of the lane in the town cudnt console her nd later she will end up sleeping in btw my grandfather nd my father leaving my mom alone in the living room or the verandah..

for a newly wed nd married to a man with devish behaviour in a new town with half of the town judjing her, she lived thru hell. The old lady is so possessive of her men tht she even used to manipulate thm to turn thm against us kids nd hve thm beat us up.. at age of 7 9nd 10 we cudnt digress wht ws happening to us.. but my father was giving us as much as he can when we travelled around..

but later i think my father realised the real pic nd chose to stay in other cities cos of his job.. i can always see my mom stressed out nd anxious whenever the old lady visited us. The lehenga comment too hit me hard as my mom had to hear such comments (worst ever ) frm her.. she has lived thru this cos of her typical 'dev' in their private time.

the old lady passed away few yrs bk cos of cancer nd in my own granny's words.. her manipulations nd evil nature ate her up... (may god rest her soul)..

Since my father chose to ignore nd stay away frm the lady.. i appreciate the makers trying to explore this unchared territory.. i am really looking fwd the for progress of the show nd show us how to deal with it. I personally am learning several things frm the show..

Lastly my mom has become a 'neha' now nd we r having a difficult time whn she is having emotional breakdown.. will be very happy if the makers show more of neha too..how more relatable can the show get to me

For an ardent booklover like me the show has replaced all my reading habits.my days nd evenings are planned nd now revolve around 9.30 pm nd their repeats.

P.S. i hope the makers give us a convincing closure to the characters thy hve sketched. I love all the wonderful writers in this forum.. dikshat sajinifaby, rose4ever, maham, pushpull, doctor, dexterity.. sorry if i havnt mentioned some.. but i read each nd every one of the thread

deepsel nd silambu: neengal irandu perum nanraga eludugireergal

pkbdasji, vimal nd jade u get a spl mention nd big thanks frm me for breaking my idea tht only women watch romantic dramas..

P.P.S. i may not be an active writer in this forum but will keep reading all ur thoughts.. feels like i hve gone back to my college days nd chatting with my own gang..

Keep rocking guys

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