Critical Inner voice of Ishwari !!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Believe me or not, todays episode just clued me to the screen opening up so many perspectives, For the first time beyond Devakshi , Ishwari's character bowled me over..no I didn't feel disgusted or angry or embarrassed but surprised at the guts of CVs to portray such delicate issue with such finesse. I was in awe actually!!


The whole episode was so neatly constructed that I didn't feel like a drama at all for two reasons, one I am seeing a similar but even worst kind of MIL (not mine) in real life and curious to see how she is helped ...second very much intrigued to see what circumstances make mothers so insecure.. CVs please handle this issue carefully because it can be an eye opener for many and for once it will be pathbreaking in Indian TV for dealing with real sensitive issue !!


Frankly whether we accept it or not, every parent has a hidden insecurity maybe even a pinch of jealousy towards their kids but they are never surfaced because they are compromised by one or the other way with the situations and relationships around them. To make my point clear, let me share an incident from my life..one day my husband came home fully drenched from an unexpected monsoon surprisingly followed by my parents equally drenched and both didn't happen to see each other. I was all smiles and brought two towels and gave one to each first to my husband and next to my dad and my mom helped him so I helped mine. After an hour , my mom told your dad is jealous that his daughter is no more his daughter but has become a wife of someone else as she is more attentive and prioritize him..we both burst into laughter and pulled my dad's leg.. Even today when either of my sons take my husband 's side over me, I get agitated and do bhaav khaoing😆..So what I am trying to say is its a part of human nature to feel insecure and feel jealous, what Ishwari has is the extended version of what we all have because she have no one else (or atleast thinks so) to build her world around again.


I never disliked Ishwari ( except for that prenup signature which is a totally misplaced scene by the CVs IMO) and don't want her to be termed as dysfunctional or psychotic or mentally unstable and demean a mother and her efforts. I researched and found something called "Critical Inner voice", which is an extreme case of insecurity and is formed out of painful early life experiences in which one witness or experience hurtful attitudes toward them or those close to them. As years go, they unconsciously adopt and integrate this pattern of destructive thoughts toward themselves and others." And that explains Ishwari !!



Ishwari never does anything intentionally if we closely watch be it the pills havoc or today, she just uses the situation to her advantage in haste and then regret it later. Today her dormant insecure demons came crashing up when she saw her son valuing some one else other than her and her sense of fear that she is being replaced and will be left alone to struggle like how she survived years back. Even a normal MIL envy when her son treats her DIL special in front of her, here its Ishwari for whom her only source of livelihood is her Son's acknowledgment and concern, the insecurity level tend to raise sky high.


Ishwari never know whether Devakshi consummated their first night so her planning to postpone there union gets nullified here ! What she tried today is the impulsive reaction of her extreme insecurity and a tint of jealousy seeing the sudden changes in her Son. I am sure she will be shown to regret for her action once she senses the blunder she tried .


What Ishwari need is little help and assurance from both Dev and Sona instead ignoring her might complicate things. But all this will be a long process because first Sona needs to learn Ishwari's problems and then Dev realize the complexity involved and I wish both Devakshi join together and make this journey of completing the family !!


Its very easy to ask Sona leave Ishwari and concentrate on her husband now that he is ladoo all over her but whats next? An illness can never be cured by the outer bandage but will be by treating the inner root cause !! Call me old school but family is not just you and me but its "We" and that we here includes both Bose and Dixit family for Devakshi !!



If CVs can maintain this understanding and care between Devakshi throughout , am sure this track will be one hell of a treat to all !! Me for once very excited to see what unfolds next !!


More than yesterday , today's episode pulled me to make some time to post this because this is quite a new expericence in a serial I have watched so far..


Lastly Supriyaji Take a bow !!! You deserve all the accolades !!👏

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sia.krpkab thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks for sharing your personal life story and thoughts! Lovely read :)
Appreciate your sorted approach and I guess that stems from seeing it from a point of view where you have been in both places - as a parent as well as daughter/daughter in law.

I am not yet a parent so may be its difficult to understand the psyche of a parent's attachment or obsession (like in ishwari's case). What I fail to comprehend is that a mother who has been so sacrificing and upright is creating trouble for her most loved child?
Both ishwari and dev has faced the same struggle in life (if ishwari had to take care of her kids, dev also lost his childhood and toiled himself like a machine).
She could be selfish, restless, self harming - but why scheming/plotting and manipulative ? Infact she has been extremely mean to Sona, taunting her and degrading her and her family in the past. That's why I would say this is psychological obsession or mental disorder of a low order.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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It is nice to read different perspective on Ishwari. I never hated Ishwari. I have seen Mom/MIL feeling insecure. Ishwari case is a little extreme. Even my mom does not like if I talk to my friends for long time. She complains you get time for your friends but not for me. She was not like this few years back. As they grow older, parents wants kids to give more importance to them.

Ishwari case is a little extreme. May be because she lost her husband at very young age and her life is revolves around her son. She is not evil. As you say, her inner voice stopped her going extreme. She got insecure after seeing Dev giving more importance to Sona. She showed anger on Sona but as soon as she saw Sona getting sad, she came back to normalcy and started consoling Sona.
Same with when she wanted to see that gift, again she stopped doing that. May be because Sona came there.

It is natural to get insecure. But in Iswari's case she is insecure and also obsessed about her son. Ishwari wants everything to be exactly the same in Dev's life, how it was before Sona became his wife. Ishwari is seeing the changes in Dev's life. Ishwari needs to understand that everyone's priority changes over time. I feel more than medical treatment, time will heal ishwari's insecurity, obviously with help from Dev and Sona.

I really want to see how Cv's will handle this track. I just hope, they don't turn her in to an evil and physco MIL.

I must say, Supriyaji is so good enacting the "insecure mom" role. Kudos to her.
Edited by Jiyaaa..... - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Liked what you wrote TM.. nice to see a different way of looking at it. I also never hated Ishwari but her today's behavior was really confusing and disturbing. There is definitely some psychological issue which needs to be dealt with delicately. Sadly I don't think CV's care that much.. as long as they get to show drama they wouldn't care about butchering couple of characters in the process
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I second every sentence what u wrote!
Firstly I want to applaud u for your postings.. I became frequent visitor to this forum since when KRKPB started and I read yours and others postings but I must say I was very very impressed by your thoughts on each character or about the episodes.
Even I agree with this topic about Ishwari's personality. I see people commenting negative about Ishwari's character but let me Tell you whether anyone believes it or not or think it's too dramatic but in reality this type of personalities do exists 8 out of 10 MIL's are just like Ishwari ... they may not be exactly the same but possess different types of insecurities ...
Forget about others in my own family they do exists ...so I'm not seeing any unrealistic here ... and let me tell u they are not bad people either but due to family background or whether it is insecurity of taking over the family head position or possessiveness for the son or could be any other reason but the truth is many women in India are like Ishwari ...
The good part is now the viewers have to learn something about these kind of issues and learn to resolve them
We need to take a benefit of watching such good enlightening serials and instead of just criticizing the character of Ishwari... if we start criticizing every damn thing or on cvs then that means we are axing out the good work\script.
I'm NOT excepting or want the cvs to change the Ishwari character or present track of KRPKAB as I truely beleive in what they showing us
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Deepa , A really warm hug to you for this post !!!🤗 You did research , as part of your work or for this show 😲😲😲 ??? You have explained it beautifully with a pinch of personal experience !!! Cant agree more !!! I am also enjoying this track so much , its getting exciting by each day !!!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Excellent post! What you said is absolutely true! Its not that Ishwari like mom never exist i have seen in aunt's life also. I esp love cvs are great in opening up the deep character in Ishwar. For once,characters are being well studied and even I am waiting how the stories unfold. If many ppl watch this they will be able to learn how to solve the love triangle between DIL MIL and son. As audience, we all can literally learn from this serial. As DIL she can learn what happens when u do something and it will make MIL learn what kinda insecurities they are creating and it will make sons realise the reality and complexity instead of complaining that they are torn between both loved ones! This serial is gg to be extremely close to my heart! very very true to reality. Anyone can relate.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Amazing post deepa.I am in the same boat .. I dont hate ishwari but i understand it is difficult for her to accept changes that are coming her way at super sonic speed. Mr desperate dixit ks not helping the situation. I hope once he and sona understand ishwaris insecurities they will be discrete about their PDA.
Very glued in to the current track..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Deepsel ( is that really your name..)😊
Frankly speaking and to be honest I have always hated Iswari once she came to know of Dev and Sona relationship and the extreme cunning measures she took to break the relationship. Yes I agree with you , she used the situations and later regretted it . She is not really a bad person by heart ...but bad only to the other woman in Dev's life... She seems to be the most evil person amongst the trio..bua , radha rani...I think these two compared to Ish are harmless but Iswari is a deadly silent killer. !

You know at times, i dont know whether to hate her or cheer for her. For example when she became protective over Sona for the insults she had to bear during the rituals , I thought to myself, glad Ish is standing by Sona . Even telling her not to attend some rituals as she doesnt want her to be insulted. Good and thoughtful or so I thought and then came yesterday's episode...back to square one!

Then in yesterday's episode when Dev took breakfast for Sona , the little special note he passed and the parcel he sent, that woman lost it, totally and for a moment I thought she was going to open the parcel and was sure she was going to wear the lingerie -night dress ( pretty sure wicked Dev bought it for Sona for their special night) herself! 😆😆 God forbid. Was even imaginingI Ise stealing it and wearing that sexy thing, with high heels and admiring herself infront of the mirror! Ok , that's enough...😆. Stop!



Her reasoning in not giving away the keys of Dev's room and her final action to send Dev on a road trip that very night and to be followed by fasting ( precap)...didnt go well with me. .Carefully planned to deny them the intimacy. I saw only a green eyed monster...not as a mother but something else...

Her obsession over Dev is almost incest ! I know its not...but I really find it difficult to digest a woman who after seeing her son almost losing all purpose in his life after his break up and almost losing Sona to another man, and later she going there to beg the gal and her family for marriage, how could she possibly be this evil having the morales of a sewer rat, to deny the happiness her son deserves. Afterall she is doing this only for him isn;t it? Would she want him to be sad and lonely and live like a monk forever?

Lately I am having day ( is there such thing ?) and night mares, that Devakshi will die as virgins, all the trios living together growing old, still unable to consummate marriage till their last breath. 😆 Depends on who departs the world first! I hv a feeling the last to go will be Ish!

I not married and the circle of my married friends, I have, dont complain about their MIL , perhaps coz we are living in a multi racial society and normally couples here tend to buy their own houses before getting married and move in immediately after marriage. In laws visit are limited to week-ends and family functions. But I guess in places like India...this type of MIL exists when you live together in some worst case scenarios of obsessive , possessive , protective mils, as I came to know after reading some posts...perhaps hmmm.


It made me think and I suddenly recalled my own mother behaving like this with my brother , even though we are living in a modern cosmopolitan city and the best part we didnt realize it , until my Sil talked to my brother , how she felt left out.

My mother would cook everyday for my brother and Sil. She will call them early and ask them what they wanted and will send the food over or invite them to the house which they couldnt refuse...this went on for a while till one day my brother talked to my mum and said that she does not have to do it. His wife will cook for him. My mother was upset but accepted it and when I came back from work she was very sad, agitated and complained that my bro and Sil told her to stop cooking for them! And she started saying what did she do? She only wanted to help...as both were working and would be tired and so on...

I normally dont bother with such trivial matter and it hit me too, that I was part of it and allowing my mum to do this...I had to sit with her and explained to her calmly that they are married and we should respect their privacy. The cooking time gives both husband and wife some bonding together and that by she intervening, she is taking that away from them and also told her, its nothing to do with her cooking, it just that they can take it from here and she does not have to worry about them...It took some time for her to accept it but she did finally.


Deep inside, I knew your posts will be on different perspectives. And I was right.😃 I had to read a couple of times your posts to accept what your written is possible . I cannot just have a one track mind like Iswari! hehe...can I ?😆

Again, it changed my thinking...I am willing to give Iswari some benefit of doubts . She is facing big issues and it needs to be handled very well. She needs TENDER LOVING CARE ASSURANCES.😆

This is a very delicate sensitive matter that affects Dev and Sona marital lives. Like you said, it will be worth to see how Dev and Sona will handle Ish insecurities and yes it could be an eye opener and wake up call for those mother in laws who are still behaving like this and how this could be A lesson for all to compromise and give in to each other's happiness and above all respect the new relations in the making . All good things will come if one waits patiently I suppose.!

So we will wait and watch...but really together with Dev I am feeling very frustrated. Just hope that these two get out of the house to do it!😆

I am very impressed that you actually bothered to do research before writing your posts. And that's why I love reading your posts. I like to keep an open mind now...afterall this is the main plot of the story is it not? I like the personal touch you brought in here. ⭐️

Excellent post my dear!👏

Have a great weekend!😉




Edited by Silambu - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you for the positive post again 🤗. Ishwari remind me of my grandmother. She have same problem with my mom. My grandfather past away when my dad was 2 year old. So my grandmother did all the struggle just like Ishwari. The only difference is that my mom is my grandmother's choice. But still she always try to keep my dad away. Even if they want to go for movie they need to ask permission. I loved my mom's fighting spirit. Then we grow up and started to take my mom's side. So today when. I saw Ishwari trying to keep lovebirds separate . The more she try the more they become desperate 😉. I will love that.
Edited by Madhavi_Di - 8 years ago

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