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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnaPaquinFan


Even later, when Sona will come to his office to tell him off for interfering in her new job , it could've been another great opportunity for Dev to broach a careful mature conversation n at lease apologize to Sona and talk the whole incident over , but no why'd he do that !
Till now , Dev has shown zero effort.


For Dev it was his final decision. It was very late when she left him and that too totally broken n distressed. Even if not directly he could have made sure she reached home safely. She was panicked when he didn't call her once he reached home. He recorded her voice since he was sure that it was a good bye.you can say I love you a million times but actions speak volumes.
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Thank you for replying and giving your input. I respect your opinion, though I don't agree with a single word of it. To each his/her own I guess. And that's fine too.
As for the various points that have been raised by you or by me during this exchange of our opinions , I don't really think I should elaborate on any of them any more , because I've already discussed on pretty much all of them n more during the course of 8 pages of this post. No point repeating any of it. Those who are interested can go through them and those who are not won't bother even if I type them again.

Thank you once again for visiting. Different opinions are always interesting and enriching. 😳
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Originally posted by: AnnaPaquinFan


Thank you for replying and giving your input. I respect your opinion, though I don't agree with a single word of it. To each his/her own I guess. And that's fine too.
As for the various points that have been raised by you or by me during this exchange of our opinions , I don't really think I should elaborate on any of them any more , because I've already discussed on pretty much all of them n more during the course of 8 pages of this post. No point repeating any of it. Those who are interested can go through them and those who are not won't bother even if I type them again.

Thank you once again for visiting. Different opinions are always interesting and enriching. 😳


I have the same opinion :)


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Posted: 9 years ago
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i hvnt read all the posts in this thread except the first 4-5...
i dont get it...wat do u guys want...u want devakshi to breakup permanently and sona settling with this ritvik guy...isnt that going too far wen ritvik has not made his entry yet and we know nothing about the guy except that he is a doc and from a decent bengali family and settled in delhi...

but no thatz not the point...it doesnt matter whether ritvik is perfect or not for sona...
this story is about devakshi and its their love...

i totally agree with everything TM has said...sona has gvn her 100 percent (even more than that) in this relationship...she has gone out of her way to convince ishwari by swallowing all insults she threw at her...
sona continuously told dev to talk to ishwari but he refused and even gv lame excuses like "i dont know y i am not telling" or "i want to hide u from everyone"...
i was actually very confused y dev delayed in telling his mom...on one hand he used to say that he knows his mom the best and she will never deny anything that will gv him happiness on the other hand he refused to tell his mom about sona...

it was obvious dev doubted whether his mom wud agree to this relationship which makes us question that if ma is so important to him then y did he make sky high promises to sona widout first getting ishwari's consent regarding this relationship...

so judging all the above points it is natural to think (and it is true too) that dev never gv 100% to this relationship...
i can actually come up with lots of excuses for this...although some of these may sound lame but all these i hv concluded after studying dev's character from the beginning till now...

first, i think dev in all his 27 years never thot of himself...he worked hard to build this business empire only for his family's sake so that they can be freed from poverty...dev never got the time to think about himself or wat dreams he has...
it was only after he realized that he is in love with sona that he learnt to indulge himself and his dreams...but dev for 27 years has always been a giver and not a taker...he has given up his childhood, his dreams and everything for his family and so today wen its time for him to ask from his mom something for himself he does not know how...he even does not know how his mom wud react...
i think this is a major reason y he hesitated telling his mom...didnt he always say sona that she is the first thing that he has ever wanted for himself...

second, for all his life his mother has been his world and he literally lived and breathed for his mom...but with sona in his life he feels the same about her too...wen he confessed to ishwari about sona he cud see that ishwari was ok with this relationship...
here i felt dev was being too blind...as viewers we cud clearly see ishwari's expressions and body language...although she said yes to dev but her eyes were speaking a different language...however dev did not even bother to read her eyes...quite strange since he claims to know her best...here i feel dev is so much in love with sona that wen ishwari said yes he got so happy and relieved that he turned blind to all other signs that ishwari were expressly giving...

it was not selfishness but it was a craving that he cud not let go...sona is not only his first love also a first of something that he wants for himself and so he doesnt want to believe that his mom will deny him of sona...

after the photo issue i thot dev at last realized his mom's intentions and that is y he went up to sona and apologised for making her stand to pose for the photo...however again wen he went to ask ishwari about sona she again lied to him that she likes her...again dev failed to read the signs...

then wen ishwari was actually hospitalized and mamaji told him the truth that ishwari doesnt like sona dev was actuallty in shock...
yes i agree many ppl will blame dev for this...he shud hv read the signs before...
but i dont want to be too harsh on dev...he fell in love for the first time although i agree it was sona's first love too...
but dev along with falling in love came first time face to face with the dev dixit who is also individual by himself other than being ishwari's son or brother to his sisters...

since dev for the first time indulged his dreams he wanted to read only the positive signs and neglect the negative ones...so wen ishwari said yes he took it by face value...i agree that it was his grave mistake...and wen ishwari was hospitalized he lost all his senses and the first solution that came to his mind is to remove the element that is disturbing ishwari and so he tells sona to leave his life...very rude i agree but at that point he cudnt choose sona over his mom...

but dev was wrong because i felt instead of breaking up he cud ask for time to convince ishwari...again i felt dev took that hasty decision because he was not in the right state of mind...at that point of time dev only wanted his mom to return home alive...he may hv thot at that time that if he tries to talk to mom after she returns home then again she may react in this same way...wat i mean is that at that time in the hospital nothing mattered to dev except ishwari...

however on returning home with ishwari we cud see that in the time between sona leaving and dev bringing ishwari home he was devastated...we cud see in his eyes the pain that he was going thru...wen ishwari brought up the topic of sona he lied that he broke up because of incompatibility...and then we cud see him cry copiously after the phn call...

all said and done we cant disagree that dev is in immense pain...he is suffering from unbearable grief of losing sona...while sona has his family's shoulders to cry on dev does not even hv that...he can do nothing except brood...

my point is that i agree dev is alone to blame for today's mess...sona is an innocent victim of dev's tactlessness...
but all said and done we cant deny that dev truly loves sona...his love is as deep and genuine as sona's love for him...

today sona has dev to blame but dev doesnt even hv the luxury of that as he has noone to blame but himself...

i am not against sona trying to move on...but getting mixed up with another guy so soon doesnt go down well with me...moving on doesnt always mean that u hv to enter into another relationship...sona cud focus on her career...cud move to another city...make new friends and start new hobbies...i mean in real life wen we move on we do these things only...we dont start crying on another man's shoulder just because first love got broken up...

finally let me come to the topic of whether sona shud return to dev...it depends...dev needs to start from scratch if he truly wants sona back...he cannot one day walk up to sona and say that i convinced my mom and she has agreed so come back...and sona shud absolutely not come back at this...

dev needs to walk miles of redemption...he needs to be reborn as dev who can convince sona of his love and commitment...dev needs to understand that sona and her love r not to be taken for granted and he shud also learn to respect his own feelings for sona too...the moment dev told sona to leave his life he insulted his own love for sona too...
sona shud come back only after she gets convinced that dev deserves her...

finally i want to say that dev has so many time told sona that noone knows his mom better than him...this statement has no truth and poor dev was under illusion for 27 years...
he has done wrong with sona i agree but he himself has been a victim of ishwari's emotional manipulations all his life...

i agree no such excuses gvs him the rite to wat he did with sona...but then he is suffering too...but no i am not saying because he is suffering sona shud come back...absolutely not...i hv already said this in this post and i am repeating it again...dev needs to walk miles of redemption...

my final point is that devakshi shud be tog...i believe dev deserves sona in every way but yes he has to do everything to prove it...
mere apology and convincing his mom will not suffice...he has to prove to sona that she is not something to sacrifice under any circumstances...
Edited by adoremevirgo - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Absolutely loved your post. A very very thoughtful indeed.

First of all what people are forgetting is this is a daily soap not real life where time of a week and year can be differentiated easily. The story has to move and they can't just show Sona to wait for a year on a tv show (slots of shows are limited).

On a more serious note, do people expect a girl (Sona) to be after a guy (like literally) who almost kicked her out of his life (for whatever reason or impulse). Do any of the girl in the world would respect a guy who did the same to you. Did Sona not try stand and support Dev when he was in the hospital. What did Dev do, he clearly stated get out of my life now as you are insignificant when it comes to my mom and that would never ever change in my life. You are insignificant and you will remain insignificant forever. Now common, people still want Sona to support (support who) someone who doesn't even acknowledges your presence. Does it even make sense.

For Dev even If Sona is sitting on mandap and Ishwari is upset he will not marry, even If Sona is pregnant (future) n Ishwari is upset he will ask Sona to abort the child, even If he had kids n Ishwari unhappy he would divorce Sona right then and there. Totally unreliable guy. Which girl in the world would be with such a guy, immaterial to how so good looking, good natured the guy may be. Trust me in the current state Dev would do all that without even blinking for a sec.

Dev did not even for once said a simple sorry to Sona, not even during phone conversation and people expect Sona to support Dev. I would really like to ask on what basis. The guy says go to hell, and Sona should keep saying but I love you, n promised to be with you even when you have left me so would support you 😕 😲 does that even make any sense.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: adoremevirgo

i hvnt read all the posts in this thread except the first 4-5...

i dont get it...wat do u guys want...u want devakshi to breakup permanently and sona settling with this ritvik guy...isnt that going too far wen ritvik has not made his entry yet and we know nothing about the guy except that he is a doc and from a decent bengali family and settled in delhi...

but no thatz not the point...it doesnt matter whether ritvik is perfect or not for sona...
this story is about devakshi and its their love...

i totally agree with everything TM has said...sona has gvn her 100 percent (even more than that) in this relationship...she has gone out of her way to convince ishwari by swallowing all insults she threw at her...
sona continuously told dev to talk to ishwari but he refused and even gv lame excuses like "i dont know y i am not telling" or "i want to hide u from everyone"...
i was actually very confused y dev delayed in telling his mom...on one hand he used to say that he knows his mom the best and she will never deny anything that will gv him happiness on the other hand he refused to tell his mom about sona...

it was obvious dev doubted whether his mom wud agree to this relationship which makes us question that if ma is so important to him then y did he make sky high promises to sona widout first getting ishwari's consent regarding this relationship...

so judging all the above points it is natural to think (and it is true too) that dev never gv 100% to this relationship...
i can actually come up with lots of excuses for this...although some of these may sound lame but all these i hv concluded after studying dev's character from the beginning till now...

first, i think dev in all his 27 years never thot of himself...he worked hard to build this business empire only for his family's sake so that they can be freed from poverty...dev never got the time to think about himself or wat dreams he has...
it was only after he realized that he is in love with sona that he learnt to indulge himself and his dreams...but dev for 27 years has always been a giver and not a taker...he has given up his childhood, his dreams and everything for his family and so today wen its time for him to ask from his mom something for himself he does not know how...he even does not know how his mom wud react...
i think this is a major reason y he hesitated telling his mom...didnt he always say sona that she is the first thing that he has ever wanted for himself...

second, for all his life his mother has been his world and he literally lived and breathed for his mom...but with sona in his life he feels the same about her too...wen he confessed to ishwari about sona he cud see that ishwari was ok with this relationship...
here i felt dev was being too blind...as viewers we cud clearly see ishwari's expressions and body language...although she said yes to dev but her eyes were speaking a different language...however dev did not even bother to read her eyes...quite strange since he claims to know her best...here i feel dev is so much in love with sona that wen ishwari said yes he got so happy and relieved that he turned blind to all other signs that ishwari were expressly giving...

it was not selfishness but it was a craving that he cud not let go...sona is not only his first love also a first of something that he wants for himself and so he doesnt want to believe that his mom will deny him of sona...

after the photo issue i thot dev at last realized his mom's intentions and that is y he went up to sona and apologised for making her stand to pose for the photo...however again wen he went to ask ishwari about sona she again lied to him that she likes her...again dev failed to read the signs...

then wen ishwari was actually hospitalized and mamaji told him the truth that ishwari doesnt like sona dev was actuallty in shock...
yes i agree many ppl will blame dev for this...he shud hv read the signs before...
but i dont want to be too harsh on dev...he fell in love for the first time although i agree it was sona's first love too...
but dev along with falling in love came first time face to face with the dev dixit who is also individual by himself other than being ishwari's son or brother to his sisters...

since dev for the first time indulged his dreams he wanted to read only the positive signs and neglect the negative ones...so wen ishwari said yes he took it by face value...i agree that it was his grave mistake...and wen ishwari was hospitalized he lost all his senses and the first solution that came to his mind is to remove the element that is disturbing ishwari and so he tells sona to leave his life...very rude i agree but at that point he cudnt choose sona over his mom...

but dev was wrong because i felt instead of breaking up he cud ask for time to convince ishwari...again i felt dev took that hasty decision because he was not in the right state of mind...at that point of time dev only wanted his mom to return home alive...he may hv thot at that time that if he tries to talk to mom after she returns home then again she may react in this same way...wat i mean is that at that time in the hospital nothing mattered to dev except ishwari...

however on returning home with ishwari we cud see that in the time between sona leaving and dev bringing ishwari home he was devastated...we cud see in his eyes the pain that he was going thru...wen ishwari brought up the topic of sona he lied that he broke up because of incompatibility...and then we cud see him cry copiously after the phn call...

all said and done we cant disagree that dev is in immense pain...he is suffering from unbearable grief of losing sona...while sona has his family's shoulders to cry on dev does not even hv that...he can do nothing except brood...

my point is that i agree dev is alone to blame for today's mess...sona is an innocent victim of dev's tactlessness...
but all said and done we cant deny that dev truly loves sona...his love is as deep and genuine as sona's love for him...

today sona has dev to blame but dev doesnt even hv the luxury to blame anyone but himself...

i am not against sona trying to move on...but getting mixed up with another guy so soon doesnt go down well with me...moving on doesnt always mean that u hv to enter into another relationship...sona cud focus on her career...cud move to another city...make new friends and start new hobbies...i mean in real life wen we move on we do these things only...we dont start crying on another man's shoulder just because first love got broken up...

finally let me come to the topic of whether sona shud return to dev...it depends...dev needs to start from scratch if he truly wants sona back...he cannot one day walk up to sona and say that i convinced my mom and she has agreed so come back...and sona shud absolutely not come back at this...

dev needs to walk miles of redemption...he needs to be reborn as dev who can convince sona of his love and commitment...dev needs to understand that sona and her love r not to be taken for granted and he shud also learn to respect his own feelings for sona too...the moment dev told sona to leave his life he insulted his own love for sona too...
sona shud come back only after she gets convinced that dev deserves her...

finally i want to say that dev has so many time told sona that noone knows his mom better than him...this statement has no truth and poor dev was under illusion for 27 years...
he has done wrong with sona i agree but he himself has been a victim of ishwari's emotional manipulations all his life...

i agree no such excuses gvs him the rite to wat he did with sona...but then he is suffering too...but no i am not saying because he is suffering sona shud come back...absolutely not...i hv already said this in this post and i am repeating it again...dev needs to walk miles of redemption...

my final point is that devakshi shud be tog...i believe dev deserves sona in every way but yes he has to do everything to prove it...
mere apology and convincing his mom will not suffice...he has to prove to sona that she is not something to sacrifice under any circumstances...


Well said my friend 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mena_k

Absolutely loved your post. A very very thoughtful indeed.

First of all what people are forgetting is this is a daily soap not real life where time of a week and year can be differentiated easily. The story has to move and they can't just show Sona to wait for a year on a tv show (slots of shows are limited).

On a more serious note, do people expect a girl (Sona) to be after a guy (like literally) who almost kicked her out of his life (for whatever reason or impulse). Do any of the girl in the world would respect a guy who did the same to you. Did Sona not try stand and support Dev when he was in the hospital. What did Dev do, he clearly stated get out of my life now as you are insignificant when it comes to my mom and that would never ever change in my life. You are insignificant and you will remain insignificant forever. Now common, people still want Sona to support (support who) someone who doesn't even acknowledges your presence. Does it even make sense.

For Dev even If Sona is sitting on mandap and Ishwari is upset he will not marry, even If Sona is pregnant (future) n Ishwari is upset he will ask Sona to abort the child, even If he had kids n Ishwari unhappy he would divorce Sona right then and there. Totally unreliable guy. Which girl in the world would be with such a guy, immaterial to how so good looking, good natured the guy may be. Trust me in the current state Dev would do all that without even blinking for a sec.

Dev did not even for once said a simple sorry to Sona, not even during phone conversation and people expect Sona to support Dev. I would really like to ask on what basis. The guy says go to hell, and Sona should keep saying but I love you, n promised to be with you even when you have left me so would support you 😕 😲 does that even make any sense.


ok so wat is ur conclusion...shud this show end with sona-ritvik...

i wont comment on ur bold part since that is completely hypothetical...

i agree on ur one point that dev in current state can do drastic things...that is y i hv repeatedly said in my post (above urs) that dev will hv to redeem himself...and by redemption i do not mean apologies and manaofying ishwari...by redemption i mean he has to prove himself in the hard way...only and only wen sona will feel that dev is ready for a relationship with or without his mom's consent and also dev has understood that relationships r not to be sacrificed only then devakshi can reunite...

if u ask me wat i will do in real life if i get same behavior from my bf like sona got from dev or wat i will advise if sona were my friend...

my advice will be that follow ur heart...today i will never suggest her to go back even if dev comes down on his knees...but i will tell her not to hurry into another relationship...ritvik shudnt be used as solution to her broken heart...i am not telling her to wait for dev either because he is not worth it...

if sona feels like entering into a new relationship then the reason shud be that she is ready to forget dev and accept another person in her life, and not because marriage will heal her broken heart...

but i still feel dev shud be gvn one chance...in spite of all that he has done we must not forget that he too is a victim of his mom's selfishness and manipulations...his fault is that he has trusted his mom blindly...
but that one chance shud be a hard one...dev literally needs to be reborn as a man free from the shackles of ishwari to win his lady love...

and finally let us admit...sona cant be happy with anyone else...so for her sake too dev needs one chance...
Edited by adoremevirgo - 9 years ago
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Very well said ... This post is simply awesome...I'm waiting eagerly for Dev to realize his big mistake and then the redemption starts...I hope Sonakshi will give another chance! As they both put we belong with each other!!!
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I was trying to avoid reading all the comments here for the thought provoking posts are mentally draining sometimes.😆
I finally read all the views.
Mind = blown👏 Amazing post😳
Totally agree with TM that Sona has always been whole-heartedly giving her 100% in the relationship. . selflessly loving Dev.
I made a post that day that Sona needed this breakup as much as Dev did, for she was slowly letting go of her own identity to please Dev's family, inspite of being repeatedly taunted by Ishwari she kept going back to her, for Dev. Her family noticed the changes in her and though Bijoy overreacted a bit on the cooking scenario, it was very well justified because Sonakshi was trying to fit in a family where no one respects her for what she is.. and was self-doubting whether she was worthy enough to be Dev's spouse, which was the biggest concern for Bijoy.

Sonakshi has every right to move on with her life, marry whosoever she wants to. .and Dev can't question her. Because it was Dev who single-handedly took the decision to break up, even after Sonakshi's futile attempts to make him understand. Now, Why expect Sonakshi to wait for him her entire life?

She is heartbroken but she can't literally sit and wait for him to come back all her life, when he himself has ended everything, without giving her any hopes. He was totally inconsiderate of her feelings while breaking up. With his attitude right now, I don't see a considerable amount of redemption from his side atm.

First, he needs to know that He has hurt and disrespected Sona really bad, he needs to make up for it to win her trust back and then her love. And certainly, it is not a one day process.

That being said, I still believe it is a little unnatural for a girl so emotionally involved in a relationship as Sonakshi, to actually mingle with her new husband-to-be and try to bond with him in a week or so.
Mind you, I am not saying it is WRONG, I am saying it is unrealis tic. Even moving on takes time. . If you are so badly hurt.
But then, hopefully cvs will give us a minor leap maybe a week or 15 days maybe. . That will make it more realistic. Can't say until I see the episode.
And, I am still rooting for Devakshi anyway, Whatever Dev has done is pathetic, but there is no doubt that he loves Sonakshi a lot. He too is miserable because of his own actions and family but situations won't improve until he does something on his own. I want to see how he redeems himself, and I don't want this to be fast.
I simply dont want Ishwari to intervene in the reconciliation as the issues are clearly between Devakshi and not Ishwari- Sona, they are secondary.

Edited by saumiee - 9 years ago

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