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Posted: 9 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

I wanted to write this back last time when Sona was defending Ranveer over Neha.

Few points.

1) Neha is as good as a parent in the Dixit family. To the people who want to call Neha a parasite, tell me the day when the family do not constantly acknowledge her role in the family being what it is today. She had to be sacrificed to give Dev the best education, and she brought up the two girls who got their education.

If Neha doesn't have a right to the family's (Dev's) wealth, then fine say it straight out. That Neha is on her own.

But the family and show are both hypocritical by simultaneously praising Neha as a backbone and as an elder, and then treating her as some spoiled daughter.

She has a right to the wealth. She most likely has her share of the wealth, and if she doesn't, she SHOULD.

The hypocritical and chauvinist thoughts the show and people put forth are ridiculous.

One the one hand, Sona will enjoy the rich life when she gets married. Not only that, the people who criticize Neha and Sona herself would agree for the right of a woman to work after marriage, and would think less of a man who wouldn't 'allow' this.

Yet, they want to take away from Neha the rightful share of wealth she has from her family.

What Sona has in her career and job, is what Neha has from background and the money she has a RIGHT to. (If she doesn't have a right, then have the guts by the family and the show to cut her off.) Instead we are shown as Dev having control of everything, and the guy who was going to give a good percentage of his company along with money to Sameer, doesn't have any kind of bank account or Trust fund set up for Neha? Okay, Neha was at first not educated enough to handle it all ..but she is learning and is smart enough and has learned English enough. Give her her rightful 'hissa.'

Such a hypocritical society.

Dowry initially was said to be for the bride's security. Even today there are some cultures which practice somewhat like dowry where the bride is sent with things needed for married life. In India it is rightfully an illegal practice due to what the practice is in the society.

However, the illegality of dowry DOES NOT mean that the bride shouldn't or doesn't have the right to bring in her own wealth and riches with her.

People acting as if Neha has no right to these things are no better and placing women in boxes and in subservient roles. They go to their husband's place and must abide by those rules. Forget if they are well off or have their own abilities and riches, but no...adjust to husband's poor lifestyle and the girl cannot do anything to try to make it better.

Then those same people look upon men and families who don't want girls to work as backwards. What is the difference between the two? Sona has a career due to her family paying for her education and her studying and putting work in. Neha has a right to her family's money due to her work and sacrifices she has made.

Let this show end with Dev losing or giving up all his wealth and being a pauper, not able to get beyond a small-time job and Dev and Sona and Ishwari living on Sona's nutritionist salary. XD (His sisters will be married off. So no need to worry about them.)

Then, and only then Sona and the show can lecture and try to make some kind of 'point-to-be-made' about Neha's 'selfishness'.

YES. THANK YOUšŸ‘
Word for word I agree with you.
IKR! The fact that Dev was wiling to give SAMEER a share of his company, but not HIS OWN SISTER was ridiculously stupid. Yes, Neha doesn't have the traditional education, but she could still help in the company, why give it to her husband? That episode made me not like Dev AT ALL (initially,I love Dev to the moon and back now) what's so bad if a woman doesn't want to have a child. Yes I understand that people want children, but if you know the person you are marrying doesn't want children and you do, you either adjust with them, convince them, or be with someone else. It's like in Friends, Monica and Richard were so in love but he didn't want kids. It broke her heart but Monica knew that in the end she want kids, so she left him. IT'S HER RIGHT, to want or not want kids. The fact that Dev wasn't willing to accept her wishes made me so furious.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: ...MonaCo...

Posting on IF after ages...

I think the issue here is not that Neha sacrificed but that her sacrifice is not acknowledged. The two younger sisters obviously did not see as much hardship as the rest so they are a bit out of the equation. They also acknowledge Neha did a lot for them, so they respect her and are close to her too. Neha loves them to death.

Neither Ishwari, Dev or Neha are selfish - all had circumstances to care for.

Ishwari had four mouths to feed and her only hope out of this "poverty" was Dev, who was chosen to get the best education etc., so he could grow up and provide for everyone. Ishwari herself made many sacrifices, including working when she was sick etc.

Dev was burdened with earning money as such at a very young age and lost his precious childhood providing "materialistically" for his sisters and mom.

Neha on the other hand was burdened with giving up her studies and raising two younger sisters.

Dev was disadvantaged materialistically but was advantaged emotionally and morally as his mother was always high praise for what he was doing for the family - which he was. He was the "best" son, "best" brother, best everything.

Neha was disadvantaged materialistically , and Dev covered some of her losses (by providing her gola, etc.) but she was more so loosing out on the opportunity to do as well in life as Dev, and was not being praised for her sacrifices.

Parents can be blindly focused on one child (even when the intention is not such), and this is exactly what happened here. Ishwari understands that Neha lost a lot, but never did anything to mend that relationship - which is her flaw. She could have. I get it she is ultra possessive for Dev but her almost nonchalant attitude towards Neha's sacrifices is a bit heart breaking. She never publiclyacknowledges that they are where they are today because all three of them Ishwari, Dev and Neha made a lot of efforts to get there. This is almost like where a housewife who cares for children never gets credit for the success of a husband - but they say behind every successful man is a woman (or vice versa) in this case, it was Neha who was managing things behind the wall when Dev was being propped into being a provider. All that was needed was for Ishwari to keep communication open, and be a friend to Neha, empathize with her and when they got money do something for her future. Instead of giving into her demands like best room, best AC, actually doing something for her future and lost opportunity. Which Dev did to some extent by enrolling her into coaching classes.Sad that this was not a thought that came to anyone's mind on their own. EVERYONE acknowledges they didn't have "enough" but no one recognizes what really pinches Neha.

Now coming to Neha-Ranveer equation, it is true that Neha got into this relationship very well knowing Ranveer's status. But Neha has also specified that her issue is not that Ranveer is poor but that he is not willing to rise from where he is.By taking the job offer, Ranveer has shown Neha that he is willing to put in that effort, but it is a false assurance per se. Poverty does not mean lack of privacy or letting bratty kids sleep in your bedroom. Ranveer may not be able to provide for Neha materialistically but his attitude cannot be "You knew you were marrying a poor man", he needs to understand and atleast try to sort this problem as a team.

Is Neha wrong in asking her brother for comforts? May be yes, may be no. Yes, because like everyone said if her husband is not okay accepting gifts from her family, and it hurts his self respect, then she shouldn't. No, because she has a fair share in their family wealth (it is not Dev's alone, even if he was the one who actually formed the business and ran it). A good solution to this would be for Dev to actually not give fish to Neha when she is hungry but show her how to fish. Give her money, ask her to invest it in a business and form her own life... Build it with love and support from Ranveer. But ofcourse this is a show so we can't expect logical solutions.

Ranveer is a self respecting man, but where he is wrong is that he is expecting Neha to not have any issues with his "poverty" just because she knowingly entered into this relationship. He was the one who initiated this relationship and in that sense, even he willingly accepted her as she is. His self respect wants him to provide fully for Neha on his own, but if he is unable to, and Neha asks things from her brother, is it his self respect which is being hurt or ego?

You see all characters are wrong here, and all have a reason to behave the way they are.

Sona, is a bit of a hypocrite here too, because she comes from a place of self righteousness - she expects Neha to fully mould as per her in-laws desire but her expectation from Dev is that he be a joru ka gulam. I know she does not mean it that way - but the way she is approaching this issue can be slightly different as well, especially when it impacts someone's married life. Hopefully both Dev and Sona will behave rather more maturely in the coming days, as issues like Neha, Gujral and Ishwari's insecurities crop up. Sona is slightly defensive about Ranveer because she herself comes from a middle class family - so she kind of resonates those feelings - but she cannot put herself into Neha's shoes. Sadly, love is not enough - when it comes to living a life together, no matter how rosy and romantic you are. If Dev was not as rich as he is, and couldn't cater to some of her fantasies (like gifting her sarees, etc., and being able to find time for romance instead of dealing with life's realities...) things would have been a bit different for her also. In her fairy tale she has found her prince charming - and she is getting things she never got before... while in Neha's fairy tale she has also found her prince charming but she has to let go of things she got with or after lot of hardships... Both are different perspectives. If anything, someone needs to understand things from Neha's perspective and guide them. The solution, I agree is not to provide her AC, or other things... but she needs empathy, and guidance... which she never truly had even from her own mother.

My 2 cents...

Wow MonašŸ‘
Absolutely loved your take on Dev, Ishwari, Neha and Sona. You are back with a bang, my girl.
Sirf shayari ki kami hai :)
Please write more..
Edited by KambakthIshq - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#83


Perfecto!! WORD to everything that you've said.. Does Ranveer know that Neha doesn't want any children?? Did she tell him about it?? Not sure.. I guess only Dev & Ishwari knows about it... Completely agree that they're at fault & they should've put sense into her. Found Radha Rani talking sense when it came to Neha. She knew Neha better. Nevertheless, I would want to see what the cvs has in store for us & how Sona is gonna be dragged into all of this. Not gonna speculate on a spoiler article as someone had already mentioned.
Exactly!! Yes, I was happy that Neha found love and all, but I was equally scared for their future. They barely know each other in so many different aspects. And the fact that he doesn't even know that she doesn't want kids makes me even more terrified for their future. And in a way it's true that RR knows Neha better than Dev and Ishwari. They both are just so obsessed with making her happy that they aren't understanding her and what will happen to her with Ranveer,
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...MonaCo...

Btw, I can't be the only one who thought something was fishy about how bhabhi came and offered to take neha's clothes out of her suitcase. I get it her intention was to help, but I feel opening someone's suitcase is a bit intrusive... and now she knows the code too... Is this a build up for something...

In the same breath, Sonakshi reading Dev's files also was a bit for my taste. I know she is now his girl friend, but ... I wouldn't read anyone's files yet...

Ahh... I thought I was the only one who felt Sona crossed a line by reading Dev's file. It would have been okay, if the files slipped from her hands and she accidentally reads gujral's file..totlal filmy ishtylešŸ˜†
I'm not sure about Neha's bhabhi... I gneuinely find her nice. We just have to wait and watch.
Edited by KambakthIshq - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: KambakthIshq

Wow MonašŸ‘
Absolutely loved your take on Dev, Ishwari, Neha and Sonal. You are back with a bang, my girl.
Sirf shayari ki kami hai :)
Please write more..


Thank you so much dear!!!!
I will try to write more... lets see if this show can motivate me more

Baaki rahi shayri...

To baat ye hai ki ...

Bade din hue dil ko koi dard nahi hua... likha nahi Mona ne koi naya sher...
Bade din hue dil ko koi dard nahi hua... likha nahi Mona ne koi naya sher...
Kuchh rang pyaar ke aise bhi shuru jo hogaya, ab kis baat ki der?

Just for you... 😳😳😳

Edited by ...MonaCo... - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: ...MonaCo...


Thank you so much dear!!!!
I will try to write more... lets see if this show can motivate me more

Baaki rahi shayri...

To baat ye hai ki ...

Bade din hue dil ko koi dard nahi hua... likha nahi Mona ne koi naya sher...
Bade din hue dil ko koi dard nahi hua... likha nahi Mona ne koi naya sher...
Kuchh rang pyaar ke aise bhi shuru jo hogaya, ab kis baat ki der?

Just for you... 😳😳😳

Wahh...wahh.. subhan Allah!!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: KambakthIshq

Ahh... I thought I was the only one who felt Sona crossed a line by reading Dev's file. It would have been okay, if the files slipped from her hands and she accidentally reads gujral's file..totlal filmy ishtylešŸ˜†
I'm not sure about Sona's bhabhi... I gneuinely find her nice. We just have to wait and watch.


But ye to realistic serial haina... šŸ˜† I dont I come from a place where we respected each others' space so thats why... I found it was not right...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...MonaCo...


But ye to realistic serial haina... šŸ˜† I dont I come from a place where we respected each others' space so thats why... I found it was not right...

Realistic sun sun ke kaan pak Gaye merešŸ˜†
I still like this show... Far better than all the crappy shows I have been watching.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: KambakthIshq


But ye to realistic serial haina... šŸ˜† I dont I come from a place where we respected each others' space so thats why... I found it was not right...

Realistic sun sun ke kaan pak Gaye merešŸ˜†
I still like this show... Far better than all the crappy shows I have been watching.

Mere bhi...šŸ¤—
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Posted: 9 years ago
#90
Thank you for making this thread so lively. When I started the topic I did not think so many would be thinking like me.
Wonderful views put forward by everybody. beautiful analysis.

Neha is a complex character. And making her out to be a stereotyped spoilt rich girl did not seem right to me.

Also Sona was projected as too good to be true. She is normal girl a sweet girl. but definitely not the be all and end all of any problem faced by anybody.

Show her as normal that is all I thought. And don't paint someone negative just to show Sona as an angel. Because she is not. She is as much human as Neha is and has not suffered half as much as Neha .

But everybody's views put forth pheooow. Such wonderful analysis such wonderful angles.

Really everybody has thought more than me and analysed more than me every character in the show.

Thank you once again for making this thread so lively.
Edited by pyaaribehna - 9 years ago

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