3/4 dec: big things, little things, wfp=36 days! - Page 2

Originally posted by: estee

3 dec bt,lt

just like i was "whaaaa...??!" at seeing preet still sitting behind those weird golden threads?
that was the funniest thing i have ever seen, specially the ornament hanging from its side, dont think nihaals had that and was wishing they had taken it off with the sehra, so we didnt have it to distract from mehereet last scene 😡
* little thing: for a moment, when ashlesha caught sight of preet's face, i felt sorry for her. at her dazed look while kul-di was trying to explain what happened. i was even sympathetic when ashlesha asked why it was that it was only "bauji's izzat" was important even above her love. but ...
i felt bad for ash for a very teeny microsecond, she did not do a great job of acting, think the words were better than her delivery, yes she took preets betrayel very badly and because he didnt give up his family for her BUT preet never declared undying love for ash EVER, i know i rewatch these things
my third, and biggest, problem with ash is that it never feels like she is acting on her own. when she "liberated" prem from their wedding, it felt like she was following her mother's principles and trying to make prem-lalit-juneja feel so guilty that she would have him hooked forever.

OR that she was in love herself and didnt want to be married to prem either, was being pushed into it by her mother, at that time too preet never told prem not marry ash so that he could marry her
fourth, her entire drama felt like it'd been totally planned! from her putting heer off to the time that she saw preet. and so i felt zero surprise i saw dirtchachi land up - and after that, ratpal! i mean, how else do these rats appears "just at the right time"? so other than the shocked "preet??!" part, i felt totally disconnected from ash-misery.
i dont know if ash was a part of that... mean she wouldnt have let preet go this easily and her love and rush to see meher was shown a couple of times as meher and ash being friends... think DJ and RR had another informant, the little rat dheer
* big thing: *sigh* i still despise dirtchachi. the moment her eyes came on screen, my head started throbbing madly.... i despise her. i would tolerate any amount of stomach-churning kooky to a second of dirtchachi... unlike with prem, absence hasn't made my heart any fonder of this person. darnit, where's the asprin..?
this time though i couldnt even understand most of her spewings... but she is a very good actress, maybe ash will pick up tricks of the trade from her
* little thing: uh... why the heck was lalit-juneja giving that superior smirk while dirtchachi was threating to grind him into lalit-juneja-pulp between her .. teeth? fingers? 😆 .. or something?
well i assumed that was because he had no plans to let DJ do all that stuff that she wanted to do, keping them under her thumb and he is a businessman, remember he started from 12000 RS. not $, so he could still manage to do something even without prem and harman... and he could get his home back,
* little thing: oooh, heer goes after the macho man! i was actually wondering here whether heer did this 'cause she is in her "prem-avatar" and it was a male ego after a male ego kind of a thing. 😆 or because heer is still dirt-scared of dirtchachi? hmm....
oh no our heer isnt scared of heer anymore, didnt she sneer at her remarks? think she has grown up enough to know dj now
* little thing: heer's hysterical little "oooh...choddo mujhe. choddo mujhe!" had me in splits.🤣 it was like the fine-print in that dialogue was "i may catch some nasty disease, you rat, don't touch me!!!"
thats did seems a little uncalled for, and in their next interaction, heers actions seem a little too much, guess she still needs to pick up things from harshad

highlight of the episode: strangely enough, the line that stuck out in my mind the most was "married men don't talk to strange girls, preet juneja!" that was a very good, very moving line delivered well. 👏
i m impressed, second episode with no prem and a highlight in it....but yes think ash's dialogues were really nice, but she only delivered acting wise only a couple of times for me, the bauji's izzat and married men bit were two instances

Originally posted by: riks1

hey estee.....

not happy with the bt of 4th december.... was expecting such a lot and you gave a one liner!!!!! not fair.......

Originally posted by: estee

4 dec bt,lt
oh well, i then dug up a reason most grudgingly that she was "not in her senses" normally. so - i'll let her off the "stooooopid!!!" hook for now... *gaaaah!*

(btw, one neat thing in that scene: the actress' voice sounded hoarse, like she hadn't used it in a while. was that deliberate??!! that was great acting then!)
she is a great actress, its sad that she has been mute for so many days now, more than a month and a half, dont know what she is thinking, actually isnt that the point she isnt thinking.... in normal circumstances she wouldnt have done such a thing, prem or no prem
* big thing: i love preet-meher. so there. in this episode, i loved the beginning when they're walking like strangers married, uncomfortable with the situation, awkward with each other. loved the end, when they sit on their own side of the bed, locked into their own personal hell, unable to help each other - oh, they were brilliant. i love preet-meher. *yeah, not liking ash probably has something to do with it - sue me! 😆*
yes they do look good together, they r both doing a good job uncertain, sad, meher is back to showing emotions now that she is away from harman, i think that harman emits cold vibes which freeze the expressions of those around him, glad to have meher away from that cold fish,
* little thing: they used music from "kavyanjali" for that first preet-meher part! and i liked the music of the last sad part too -- but didn't recognise it. where was it from?
dont know the show but the music from the last part was from a movie, i actually think its good i havent seen any other of ektas shows because ppl keep saying oh this is exactly like that show and blah blah and i dont find it so bcos i havent seen the other show, so it s all fresh for me😆
she perpetuates one of those big social injustices that we have in our society today -- a social disease all over the world -- this perpetual idea that "attractive" with someone who is pencil thin. i feel kinda sick 'bout this 'cause we have another serial on the same channel which is all about showing prejudices people have about dark skin being unattractive. and here, we have a show that pokes fun at a girl who is not pencil thin, again. and again. and again. and no one seems to think that as pathetic. the character is not obese - which is a genuine problem!

well i have seen it a couple of time even on IF, dont know why people, i dont think this is limited to desi ppl, seem to think that fat (not obese) people are different, i think meher was looking a whole lot prettier than the stick thin veera at her wedding

there was an ff on the forum that i was reading and in it preet and meher were together but that specifically described meher to have lost a lot of weight... thank goodness our clothes have the ability to hide a lot of r flaws and can make even chubbier ppl (like meher) look smart...i think one should feel good abt their body, be comfortable in their skin... i hated the concept of that other show from the very beginning so never saw it, am sure it must have good tracks but the basic premise of the show is flawed for me atleast

thats why i hated KJ telling meher not to eat meetha and harmans defense of her... i dont care because i wont be marrying you
funny though, no? the three moron females on the show -- veera, maya, ashlesha -- are also the only ones that are thin. everyone else is healthy. hmmm. is that another prejudice there? that girls who are thin are also stoooopid and evil???

i think heer isnt as healthy as meher or even kulraj isnt, and they r both smart and not evil, no that isnt a prejudice that s aconincidence

i guess one must thank the powers that be for small mercies that heer is not pencil thin. man, i love heer. and i like meher. and kuldi. and even the look of dirtchachi! and i'm *fiercely* glad that preet is not married to that .. that ... jhaddooo!

* little thing: loved that preet said not a thing to ashlesha. she should take notes - when your heart's broken, there are more than one way to behave. another way to deal with it is not to screech like a banshee. that there is a gentlemanly way, a thoughtful way. i soooo want to see how preet-meher deal with their (miserable thanks to gayatri-mom! 😡) life going forward....
i hope they have a nice track planned for them, they could show so much between them as they settle in married life, hope they dont destroy it
* little thing: the last preet-meher segment broke my heart. it did. both meher and preet looked young, vulnerable, defenceless. unlike earlier, when her face looked so badly caked with makeup that she couldn't speak, meher's face look like a hurt child's as she sat alone on the bed in her "servant quarters" room. and somehow, preet managed to look like a total hurt baby when he came in and sat on his end. and the way they cried silently, not letting the other know. i just wanted to grab both of them and hold them in a hug until they fell asleep. poor kids....
thats some maternal instinct u have...u have nephews and nieces??? but that was a memorable scene, very well shot, though preet should have removed his head gear, his necklace thingy hanging from his head was very distracting
* little thing: oh, so heer's mental prem comes to laugh at her sorry state after dealing with ratpal. i soooo loved the idea that that is her image of what prem's reaction would be! heer.... 😆
this was the best description of prem's presence, didnt think abt it in that sense... and i know u said u would do this separately so i m going to keep my comments to myself, it ll be hard but i'll manage 😵
highlight of the episode: hmm... what to put, what to put? 'kay. preet-meher standing at the door of preet's room, and preet telling meher that they will find a way to make things work. preet..!!!!! 🤗
if we are looking at the show without the premeer moonlight outing in the snow.... then i loved preet and meher walking down towards their room before preet started talking... the preet and meher interaction at that time


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Originally posted by: khushix

relax guys...give E a lil' break...let her sleep..and maybe she'll give us sumthin longer 2mrow...ryt E?..😳😆

Originally posted by: nandini90

of course it SHUD NOT be short at all....

E u readin i know......make it as long as u want....noo..make it as long as i want.....noo....as long as we all want....and i promise..i wont b laji and wil sureli reply....😆thts sth of my stuff..

Originally posted by: estee

😆 hey... fatima? the bt,lt ain't done yet... it was just... i am just soooooo tired of being kicked out by if.com for writing posts that are too long! and i figured, if i get started on that last segment of 12/4, i'll never stop and i'll never get it posted! 🤣

that last row of unabted "😆" should've been a clue. hope (hope08) just wrote and asked me the same question -- except she was more verbal that you, i think. 😆

besides, nandini's always shouting at me for using caps in my bt,lts - i thought that i'd focus her irritation away from the bt,lt to ... just a 12/4 bt! or should i call it the 12/4 bbt? 😆

see you there in a short while? 😆 need to go dig out some .. uh... illustrative instruments! 🤣

*forgive me. it's 5am here, i've slept for just two hours and i have not yet written the 12/4 prem-heer-are-one-almost-all-the-way moment out of my system yet.... 😆*

Originally posted by: mistyeyed_25

The pain of a broken heart is immense and only those who have gone through this pain can identify or feel what ashlesha is going through. What Preet did to ashlesha was wrong and I hope and pray that no girl would have to go through the same situation that ashlesha has tto go through because of preet...

Sometimes these wounds heal,. Sometimes they dont and they end up making us stop believing in love. This was a show which taught us to believe in love AND today, its doing a u - turn and going back on the very things they propogated.

This serial used to tell us about the beauty of life and relationships... today its teaching us to use people and throw them in a dustbin... somewhere I disconnected from this show... and Damn BT, for having re opened wounds, that i had thought had healed...

i'm sorry for the pain of love lost to whoever has had to go through it. particularly 'cause i think this one pain is very personal, no? when it happens, people always seem to doubt and question themselves. and it does take a while to just ... well ... know that it's not your fault, no?

Girls today arent the ones who will tolerate nonsense. Other than ashlesha, everyone else is tolerating nonsense...

not sure it's nonsense. a friend of mine who's always lived in the us told me that people here are lucky. there is no stigma against going out, getting dates, finding love, losing it, only to search for it again. she said that in a way, it was good because it takes experience and awareness to find "true love". after all, (she said) it's easier to find it when you know what .. well .. it isn't? 't least, that's what she said. and it kinda made sense to me. but then, i keep wondering: why are we so in love with the idea of a one-shot, perfect love? is it just us back home? or would anyone in the world sit up one day, seeing prem-heer, smile and say dreamily "gee, that's so sweet. wouldn't it be lovely to be like that?" dunno... i guess just another of those things that i'm w&w-ing for... *sigh*

Sorry,If i offended any one with my comments or thought in justifying ashleshas behaviour. Just can related to her feelings and pain having gone through similiar experiences twice in my life.... BUT At the end of the day, its just a serial and all of us are entitled to our opinion...

😆 which is one of those things that i feel like asking for every time that i write one of these gigantic posts that if.com insists that it can't post at one shot!

y'know? i think that ashlesha's behaviour isn't so b&w that it can be either "justified" or "not", no? i mean, i totally sympathised with her in her attitude to preet. he is the one who chose to hurt her -- go against everything she hoped for.

what i didn't appreciate was how she just dug out all her ancient feelings for meher to the fore. and to include the entire juneja clan in her feelings of revenge? um... not on, i thought. this is a matter of love. totally personal. if preet was an idiot, why hate meher? i dunno. i read someone say that they would do exactly what ashlesha did. i totally disagree. i don't think any of us would be like ashlesha all the way. i think we'd have reacted like her. cried like her. but most likely, run out of what is a horribly embarassing situation as soon as possible. it always disturbs me how ashlesha's "acts" look like they link up to a larger game plan.

BTW my view is that Ashlesha was actually leaving the house, and going to her mom, when daljeet returns...

hmm.. yeah, agreed, could've been. but she was calling out for her mother, looking to the skies. and .. hey presto! the darned woman actually appears! dunno... it stinks.

somewhere I think daljeet is not that mean with the family as she used to be.. her ire is against preet and meher and naturally so... her tone has come down a bit and she is isnt that heartless as she used to be - atleast not as of now - may be she too feels bad about prems death...

here, i disagree more strongly. dirtchachi came in spitting venom and ire at lalit-juneja. she is even more bitter and heartless. is like you said, a person who has seen failure is more bitter, no? i think that dirtchachi was sweeter and cuter before. now? she's become evil incarnate. no more cute stuff. is gonna be pure evil from now on...

What goes around - comes around - if ashlesha is paying for what she did to her cousins, then i am afraid the junejas too will have to pay for what they did with ashlesha.

preet juneja? yes. and i think he's already doing that -- he is in a marriage that he is going to have to fight his feelings for ash, and his guilt about ash, to make work. lalit-juneja too ought to pay. but he has manysins to make up for. the rest though? this marriage was a personal choice. it shouldn't be made the big family sin that ash is making out to be. that's wrong. and if it's in ash's hands, then she could make that distinction. but she will not. the character just doesn't have the depth. which is why i could not, can not, sympathise that much with ash. just mho.