Charishma thumbnail
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Although all this talk of 😭NP vs. 😉MP is interesting, I keep on thinking back to one scene in particular. The rape scene. And i have to say that i am concerned how tv and dramas are treating the issue of rape.

Heroines are being raped all the time, and its acquired this romantic light to it. To me that is frightening. When M didnt rape P I breathed a huge sigh of relief. But i have come across some ppl who are praising it.

I don't mean to be rude or disrespectful, but MP almost-rape is not something in his favour. I even found the scene on youtube (😕). Ppl actually want to see that again?? (again..i mean no disrespect). Just because he didn't go throught with it doesnt make the encounter one in M's favour. I am relieved that he stopped, not praisful.

One reason i was never a Prem-Mukti (KZK) fan was because of the rape Prem let happen. He used her, then let a buddy rape her, and then she forgave him and they had a great romance. I just can't beleive that television is portraying this kind of behaviour. I can't stress enough that I don't want to offend anyone. I just want to hear thoughts ppl might have on this issue. Maybe someone could make me understand (lol), because i certainly don't.

Any thoughts on the scene? What was your reaction? Is there anybody who agrees/disagrees?

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I agree with you... Rape is a serious issue.

So, why do we have it shown on TV with rapists as heroes?

Hmm, I guess because women like men in charge. And unfortunately, the masses equate the "in charge" idea with a man asserting his power in the bedroom. Ugh! Don't get that!

Plus, I read an article that said that women have fantasies of rape or near-rape scenarios. THAT, of course, does not mean that they want to be raped or like to be near-raped. Fantasies are just that: fantasies. So, I guess that would explain why rape and near-rapes are shown on television (cause they are mostly watched by women). And of course, let's not forget that some sick men somehow find these scenes "hot."

Anyway, I agree with you. Dramas do not take rape seriously. But then I can't blame dramas. Who in society takes rape seriously? Women are almost always blamed for being raped. Is that fair? NO. Is that what happens? Yes.

I am sorry if I did not answer your question. I just do not know the answer.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Charisma,

Glad you bought this topic up! The rape scene was incidentally the first episode I watched of Kayamath and I was erm.. stunned to see it... for one, coz it had Shabbir, and mostly again.. coz why another rape... particularly that line... Pati hoon na main tera...haq banta hai na mera tujh par.. and my heart sank...

It was disappointing to say the least that he even attempted to scare in that manner...

I totally agree with you that not going thru with it, is a relief not a brownie point in his favor , certainly not!

The reaction of his wife after the scene... made one shudder... even the sound of a foot step outside sent a shiver...

The very thought of the night that passed scared her so much, she could see only relive it... when she entered the room again...

I wonder if the creatives know, what impact , such a incident has on women, let alone a rape... even a gesture that implies such intentions of a man , makes women bring up their gaurd... and here we have rape being treated ... as some light hearted topic...

Pathetic... and we talk abt progessive minds and thinking... Damn such thinking!

No offence to anyone... ! Couldnt strres anymore as charisma said, that this is jus to share our views and nothing else.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Wow... nice topic. I agree with you... there are many shows that have tried the topic of rape... I don't know if it is to raise TRP's or to actually bring an issue and message... but whatever it is I think it is getting too much now... as a girl who has lead a great life I myself get extremely emotionaly disturbed watching such things... can you imagine what girls who have gone through something like that must go through having to watch their misery turned into "entertainment" ... I use the word entertainment... b/c at the end of the day ppl watch these shows for entertainment ...it is ficitional... and telecasted at a time when families sit together for some entertainment...

Secondly I am yet to see a show where rape has been shown... and it has shown the true ways of how must one deal with such things, as the victim, the victim's family, the rapist, the rapist's family.... have they ever given out the number of a helpline to call at the end of the show? Have they ever shown the rapist getting psychological help? Have tehy ever shown what the victim and the families associated going to the doctor and getting the proper treatment both mental and physical? ... I have not... all I see is long bhashans while the rape victim cries in a corner, neighbours make rude comments, and rapist smiles evily... eventually he "maybe" sent to jail... which is highly unlikes as he is usually one of the main villians hence must stay in the show...then slowly the show moves on... and the viewers never really get to see how must one actually deal with such a situation... and the rape just becomes another issue in the story such as serogate mothers etc...which are also never dealt with properly...

Feel free to disagree and correct me if you think I am wrong... it will give me a chance to learn and further my knowledge...😊 ... no offence to anyone 😊
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Of late they are showing the marital rape in KGGK which is thoroughly disgusting. All the female members of the house are shown to condone it. I dont know if this is the attitude of the general mass but if it is, it is high time they show such things should be firmly dealt with. How then can you bring reform in the society. The most repulsive thing I have seen in some movies is to show that the rapist agrees to marry his victim and that is applauded by all. Since according to them no man will marry such a woman, as though the entire thing was her fault.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Charishma....wonderful topic dear...adn completley agree with the whole lot so you...Sareeta adn you all have made wonderful points indeed.

But...aren't we the viewers and audience to blame too..that we may wacth such scenes...we may be disgusted by the carlessness of the Production house in handling of such scenes...we may discuss it her on this forum or some place else...but none of us females.....will ever raise our voices or petition or send a request in droves to the channel or the production house to show Rape is such light...as though its nothing but a TRP gainer...or a way to entertian the audience.

What the Channels and the Production house should do is be more reponsible in showing such cases and its handling...they should do thier civic duty by providing correct information...to the public....so that if someone does go through such a henious crime...that person or soemone lose knows what step need to be taken..from the FIR to the polic eto the medical examination..to consuling etc.

Its about time thses Channel heads and Production company took repsosibility in educating the massess through these entertainment channels and dramas too...instead of using it just as a TRP gainer or something to make the story move....or pure entertianment...because...Rape can never be entertaining at all...not for any sane....good human being...be it male or female.

Thus we all as viewers, audiences , repsosioble citizens and human beings need to step up and send these production house or channels a peption, request etc to make thme take notice that we wont tolerate such crap bieng shown in the name of entertainment.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Good and relevant topic but unfortunately one that will come a cropper everytime in Ekta's world. Like u guys said it's seen as entertainment in her world.
The rape in Kahani is one more example of this. The woman had an ideal opportunity to show the viewers the right stand to take...and all madam did was to increase the coffers of service providers by asking the audiences to SMS what Parvati should do about it!!

And depending on the numbers, she'd shoot the episode which apparently had two differnt scripts!! That's what such important issues have come down to...commercialisation and sensation.

As for the near-rape in Kayamath, I'm truly shocked to hear ppl are looking at the scene repeatedly.
The essense of the scene was repulsive...Milind's intention to see fear in Prachi's eyes. The premise was wrong to begin with. Sukriti went along with Alaap who never raped her. It was the consummation of their 'love' as far as she was concerned. What fear is Milind talking about? As far as I could see, she faced up to Alaap every time they had a confrontation. Even slapped him once.

So for Milind to say his sis is afraid coz of Alaap is a crock of crap. It was wrong on his part to do what he did and wrong on Ekta's part to let such a scene happen.

Though he never meant to go through with it, he shd have realised the long term effect it wuld have on the woman...after all, didn't he claim that his sis was suffereing the same?
So he apologised etc and Prachi forgave.

But, I can't forgive Balaji Telefilms for glossing over the whole affair so quickly. In no time, Prachi had stars in her eyes for Milind and was dancing shyly in his arms....and not so long before this, she couldn't even make herself go into their bedroom...and was shaking at every foot step outside the room!

Shocking!!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: pippa


As for the near-rape in Kayamath, I'm truly shocked to hear ppl are looking at the scene repeatedly.
The essense of the scene was repulsive...Milind's intention to see fear in Prachi's eyes. The premise was wrong to begin with. Sukriti went along with Alaap who never raped her. It was the consummation of their 'love' as far as she was concerned. What fear is Milind talking about? As far as I could see, she faced up to Alaap every time they had a confrontation. Even slapped him once.

So for Milind to say his sis is afraid coz of Alaap is a crock of crap. It was wrong on his part to do what he did and wrong on Ekta's part to let such a scene happen.



I wholeheartedly agree, and those are very straight, right on target points you mentioned.

On the bright side (?!), I think to enjoy a soap show (of every country, probably) we just have to take it with grain and salt because the production houses/ creative teams simply throw logic to a waste bin and consider the viewers stupid and/or having serious memory problem.


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Posted: 18 years ago
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i agree with u completly this rape issue has bein gtin out of hand... and having this on tv serials lyk this is pathetic... evn in kggk maithali gt raped its happing to much in these serials,, ands it is annyin how ppl just wnt to watch that scene its verri frightning this has to stop in serials rape is gtin very popular... and its not a nice thing..!
thnks
ps thats what i thnk...! 😊
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Posted: 18 years ago
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all of you have raised great points, thank you for that. I was worried how my very-serious topic would be recieved. I am so relieved that i am not alone in my thoughts. I don't see why near-rape or rape scenes are accepted (other then for trp ratings, which is a phenomenon for me). I am glad that others don't see it either
I also agree that we are partly at fault for watching these shows and not complaining to balaji about it.
The near-rape scene affected me tremendously because I'm a Criminology major, and i spend all my time learning about offenders and their victims
And it must be said that anyone who engages in rape and near-rape needs serious psychological help
The anger-motivated rapist places second on the chart (right after the Sadist), so you can see exactly how inaccurate the scene and the following events were
I am very angry with Balaji and other production houses for inaccuratly portraying this issue (both in terms of the offender and victim)

I blame myself more for watchin these bloody shows 😡 lol

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