KZK2 TRP Discussion #1 DT note: 35,103 and 111 - Page 102

Originally posted by: BombayGirl10

The most funny part about this TRP list is it got highest rating during komo farewell and bajaj farewell too i think 😆

Seems like people love iconics farewell.

Atleast komo contributed to increasing trend bajaj in decreasing 😆.

Anupre be like can we have farewell every other week writers.

viewers also leave with them

2.8 to 1.8 biggest troll 🤣

Originally posted by: .amigos.

Here's THE THING! This forum looks more like a high school wrestling ring than a place where people come together to have a constructive dialogue or discussion.

*DISCLAIMER REMOVE BY THE MODERATOR*

Secondly, this topic isn't about one upping ANY fandom on this forum. Frankly, I stopped giving a damn about WHO ended with WHOM a LONG time ago. I used to tolerate this show for KSG. (so thank you for the mukti).

But, I can't help but notice how sensational the discourse here has been. A discourse more high on emotions than FACTS! Now since this forum claims that Naveen Babu's track was indeed the best track of the show, and the show was MASSIVELY POPULAR, and Bajaj TOOK IT DOWN, I had to GO BACK and do some 'factual' analysis to see if any of it made sense! LO AND BEHOLD, here are my findings:

But before that:

A disclaimer: The numbers run upto the ek chhat track. That's because I got tired and don't care about the ones after this much😆

Okay let's start.

KZK2

BEGGINING TRP 2.1

2.1 - 15TH SLOT

2.1 - 18TH SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.8 - 13th SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2 - 15TH SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.3 - 12th SLOT (jumps up -HINA'S ENTRY - KOMOLIKA) - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.5 - OUT OF TOP 20 - OBVIOUSLY NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.5 - 10TH SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

25. - 11th SLOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

11th SPOT - SLOT LEADER FOR 1ST TIME

2.9 - 7th SPOT (NAVEEN BABU REVELATION/CLIMAX)

2.3 - 11th SPOT (SLOT LEAD LOST)

2.2 - 16th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

15TH SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.9 - 18th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.0 - 18th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

2.3 - 14th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

15th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

Komolika CENTRIC Track begins

15th SPOT - NOT LEADING THE SLOT

1.9 - SLOT LEAD (HIGH POINT - DEATH PROMO - CONFESSION)

1.8 - SLOT LEAD - 7TH SPOT

1.6 - SLOT LOST -

1.7 - SLOT LEAD - 6/7TH POSITION

2.0 - 5TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD

2.2 - 4TH SPOT -SLOT LEAD

2.3 - SLOT LEAD - 3/4TH SPOT

2.2 - SLOT LEAD - 2nd POSITION

2.1 - SLOT LEAD - 6TH

2. 0 - SLOT LEAD - 8TH SPOT

2.2 - SLOT LEAD - 4TH SPOT

3.0 - SLOT LEAD 1ST SPOT - KOMO CLIMAX

3.0 - SLOT LEAD - 2ND

2.8 - SLOT LEAD - 4TH SPOT (KOMO EXIT WEEK)

2.0 - SLOT LEAD - 5TH SPOT

1.8 - SLOT LEAD - TOP 10

KSG'S ENTRY

2.0 - SLOT LEAD - 5TH SPOT

2.0 SLOT LEAD - 5TH SPOT

1.8 - 6TH SPOT - SLOT SHARING

2.0 - 6TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD

2.1 - 4TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD (BJ/PR WEDDING)

2.0 - 8TH SPOT - SLOT LEAD

2.1 - 6/7th SPOT SLOT LEAD

2.2 - 8TH SPOT - SLOT LEADER

2.0 - 8th/9th SPOT - SLOT LEADER

1.9 - 12th - (ek chhatt begins) - SLOT LEAD (N/A)

MAJOR ANALYSES:

Naveen Babu track

Slot Lead 2 times/5+ months

TOP 10: 2times/5+months

ANUPRE CENTRIC TRACK - Love Realization/Mishika

Slot Lead: 0

TOP 10: 0

Komolika/AnuPre

Highest IMPACT. SLOT LEAD. TOP 10

If you compare the FIRST TWO MAJOR TRACKS, that is almost 8 MONTHS of anupre centric CONTENT on this show, this show was NEITHER the slot leader, NOT ANYWHERE near top 10! Naveen Babu's track brought this show THE WORST positions. Compared to that, the initial Bajaj track still was leading the slot.

Another PATTERN THAT EMERGED: This show ONLY PICKED UP, took on the slot and the TOP TEN when they made it KOMOLIKA centric, and made Prerna and Komolika fight over Anurag. Take that one plot out of the show and you'll have a colossal failure at your hands!

Also, before people come at me with Naveen Babu track had 2+ ratings HA HA HA! So I confirmed this with a friend in the higher ups of TV, and here's the thing! The rating systems works LIKE A PERCENTILE SYSTEM. It means because of changing trends, and a lot of things, the highest ratings over a period of time are taken as conclusive. So let's say your BIGGEST, NO.1 show gets a rating of around 1.8-2.3 over 3 weeks. THEN Every other show's rating will be taken in relation to that! Because that's the overall relative audience pool you're working with! That is why if SP's no.1 show or the no.1 show picks up 2.0 itself or even 3, the next thing will be how close to that figure ARE YOU. Obviously, SLOT LEAD matters the most too. If your show is leading ITS SLOT, and is maintaining a relatively positive trend, it's NOT going to be in the danger zone whatever that is!

^^^It's pretty straightforward too! If you get 2.0 and 14-15 SHOWS GET 2.0 BEFORE YOU it's the norm. Nothing out of the world, NO ANOMALY, and definitely not an indicator of your 'outstanding' performance. You still aren't leading your slot either. HAIL HAIL!😆

PLUS since logic assumes similarity in assumptions! If you say A SINGLE EK CHHAT track which obviously didn't work FOR ANYBODY, means the audience rejected Bajaj toh phir pehle 8 months. 8 months/multiple tracks vs ONE ek chhat track which was Bajaj vs Anurag rather than Bajaj x Prerna.🤣 (idc about KP ka Bajaj or whatever happened post covid because the actor was replaced). If someone could get me ek chhat track ke slot/trp positions, you'll be an angel (with proof of course!)

Let's GET TO THE POINT! The only thing that worked for this show's AUDIENCE, and brought in ratings was KOMOLIKA! Prerna vs Komolika. TWO FREAKING TRACKS (SAME PLOT) out of a hoopla of tracks, got them the ratings! But funnily enough, they could NEVER sustain those ratings when they shifted the focus off KOMOLIKA and tried to play at another angles! THE ABSOLUTE DISMAL RATINGS OF THE VIRAJ TRACK! Bajaj toh phir bhi decent tha.

Another thing, comparing prerish to Anupre IS STUPID because Prerish NEVER had any of the plot dynamics anupre did for a comparison to take place.

Anyway, this isn't to talk about Bajaj or Komolika! Frankly, this season's Bajaj was a snorefest too and I'm glad KSG, for whatever reason, left and mujhe mukti milgayi. But PLEASE instead of throwing blames here and there ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH. This season's WRITING DID NOT CONNECT! There is a reason the creatives ONLY favor Komolika centric tracks. And, that's because Komolika, in whatever capacity, was the only one who worked for them THIS SEASON! And no I'm not MAKING anything up. This is based off numbers and SLOT POSITIONS.

Okay, toodles! Now we can ALL BLAME the writing, acknowledge our biases, celebrate or curse or mourn or whatever in peace. 🤔

In the end, happy mukti to all of us.😎

p.s. I've picked up the ratings from our trp threads/salil

To the mods: It's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to do a show/character success//failure analyses without putting the TRPS side by side!

one reunion promo b4 Bajju 1st exit made trp decrease

Trp decreased after Bajju's exit nd sm office romance crap

Komo nd pre ladai then got 2

Originally posted by: -RD-

Happy ending news promo didnt work much for the online audience much given online trp is around 18.4 i guess hope trp audience is looking forward to the happy ending 😃

Originally posted by: Amyra94

yup coz farewell of iconics frees viewers from horror of seeing filthy anu housefly nd pre

viewers also leave with them

2.8 to 1.8 biggest troll 🤣

1st in itv

Originally posted by: INSTIGATOR

2.8 to 1.8 for engagement

1st in itv

1.8 seriously? 😆

Originally posted by: -RD-

Happy ending news promo didnt work much for the online audience much given online trp is around 18.4 i guess hope trp audience is looking forward to the happy ending 😃

It is the easiest thing in the world to criticize and assess only what did not work. We do that ALL the time, at work, in personal lives, and where not.

I absolutely commend you for extracting this dataset for a show which you clearly care for.

The biggest success of this show is in the vigorous defense both parties do for proving their point. The showmakers/actors/nostaliga DID work for the fans, which are so passionate for the show.

That is why I think it is not possible to convince Bajaj fans that the show worked irrespective of the data. This is the same case vice-versa too, no AnuPre fan will believe that the show did not work.

We may keep holding onto our beliefs and still enjoy that the show is ending. All fandoms/fans stand to benefit except for the crew (hope they find work soon). While this post may feel philosophical, I have no intention of belittling any of the fandoms. Aren't we all free to believe what we want? The recent media circus has only taught me to agree to disagree without condecension.

Originally posted by: Sowmya_nathan

Originally posted by: hope4u

Thanks Sowmya for this wonderful analysis. Kudos to you.

I think the story of this show in terms of the ratings and who and what didn't work has been clear for a long time. However convenient narratives have happened in the past and will continue hence forth too.

Its all for 2 more weeks. With that, the show will end, and so will these trp discussions. 😤

Well it did take some time but this it was very interesting to collate entire serial TRP path.

There are many details that can be noticed if you go episode wise and also follow 2-5 weeks TRP because TRP junta can see it.

For example as you rightly said Komo 1 track with Prerna at Basu Badi won TRPs but same so called cat fight of Komo and Prerna did NOT fetch TRP

*EPI 61 to 84 for full 4 weeks there was TRP drop when snoozefest of Pre/Komo fight was shown.

*Same happens in Komo 2 track where all we see for long term is too much of Komo when TRP did not lift.

Only Komo 1 which was novel to even S1 story worked where Pre was seen challenging and winning.

Hence it is wrong notion that Komo always works. This is type of trend is NOT different on other ITV serials because at one level all are same.

Originally posted by: munnihyderabad

ohh it decreased🤔 I thought happy end news/BTS and promo will lead to inc in online trps

what was it last week ?

I think it was arnd 21 week before

Introduction of bajaj character in show dipped the trps 😃 nothing gonna explain that..

Its FACT trp viewers are not happy with new era bajaj he is rejectee badly...😆

Show ka downfall started in terms of trps coz of bajaj.