KZK2 TRP Discussion #1 DT note: 35,103 and 111 - Page 104

So much for the love story .

It was 1.3 last week and same this week😆

Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.

Not to bust this trp bubble but a 2.0 or + means nothing if the show is at rank 15, and 3/3 in terms of Slot lead. As far as I'm concerned, this show worked briefly in pulling numbers (that is top5/10/slot lead) during the anupre dhaaga marriaga vs komolika. That was the show's best phase in terms of all encompassing numbers. The show never did that good of a business again. Not previously, before the dhaaga marriage with the other 2/3 tracks. Not after it, with obviously Bajaj, XYZ, Viraj, Bridge and all. Which goes on to show, had the makers probably stuck with keeping anupre married, married and separated since that was their theme essentially, this would've worked (again speculating).

Also, I know a lot of people love the initial tracks of this show, but trust me when I say this, the entire PH/creative team was in panic because they were unable to bring in the numbers and there was constant meddling from the channel which was unhappy and very dictatorial post the NV track. Is show ke sabse meaty tracks didn't bring in numbers. And, so began the creative's fixation with Komolika and this show's downfall.

Look TRP 2.0+ was only put many here harped it as some magical threshold.

Please go through 3 pages back detailed thread for all 3 years TRP which matches with your some of your observations. The Show had consistent 2.0+ TRP.

What matters is TRP relative to others. And 2.0+ is good enough if NOT the best when compared to others when they were hovering 2.0-3.0.

Anyways for Channel and PH what matters is SLOT revenues as many pointed. This show reached that at Komo 1 track. I am sure Komo was required earlier because their high side of 2.0+ TRP at NB track did not make slot leader (2nd/ 3rd) which matters for revenues as said.

Hence this position of being in Top 5/10/20 matters for overall but for slot revenues it did best at Komo 1 track. With this bad writing you could never compete to beyond your slot serials.

1. I agree to the Concept of Komo 1 track working due to Sauten drama which is staple ITV but it was also Novel compared to S1, remember it was reboot and not fresh serial

2. They should have held onto the concept of AnuPre with separations/ arrangement etc later if it worked for them with antagonists.

3. What we can clearly see is Bajaj track NOT working when it took S1 route. Why could not makers understand it.They could have tweaked it like Komo 1 track but all they can come up Ek Chaat as you said due to bad writing.

4. After end of Bajaj 1 track people were fed with the recurring drama of Kasauti turning the characters arcs upside down of ML and FL and there was NO coming back after that even during Komo 2 track although the premise was same like Komo 1 (Sauten track)

No one disagrees bad writing was bane of this serial but it came thus far with some pocket achievements (Slot leader during ENTIRE Komo 1/ some of Komo 2 track, Channels top sometimes, DECENT if not great TRP of 2.0+ most of times, Channel favourite Jodi ) is NO mean feat imo.

How could one even reach there with such bad writing, meaning some things did go well.

Ref: My POST on this TRP thread at Page 127 for more details.

Future Happy ending se bhi trp ko koi farak na padha so much for the happy ending promotions and the focus on the leads and their story!

Originally posted by: -RD-

Future Happy ending se bhi trp ko koi farak na padha so much for the happy ending promotions and the focus on the leads and their story!

Its all side characters getting focus

Originally posted by: -RD-

Future Happy ending se bhi trp ko koi farak na padha so much for the happy ending promotions and the focus on the leads and their story!

Isliye toh off air horaha hain dear.☺️..TRP nahi arahi...ekta knos it .despite al humbug stunts of leads leaving n then coming...reality is it didnt work and she has decided to get rid of da dead sack😭🤣🤣

Corrwction in trps

https://twitter.com/isalilsand/status/1309044368523833355?s=19

Originally posted by: Sowmya_nathan

Look TRP 2.0+ was only put many here harped it as some magical threshold.

Please go through 3 pages back detailed thread for all 3 years TRP which matches with your some of your observations. The Show had consistent 2.0+ TRP.

What matters is TRP relative to others. And 2.0+ is good enough if NOT the best when compared to others when they were hovering 2.0-3.0.

Anyways for Channel and PH what matters is SLOT revenues as many pointed. This show reached that at Komo 1 track. I am sure Komo was required earlier because their high side of 2.0+ TRP at NB track did not make slot leader (2nd/ 3rd) which matters for revenues as said.

Hence this position of being in Top 5/10/20 matters for overall but for slot revenues it did best at Komo 1 track. With this bad writing you could never compete to beyond your slot serials.

1. I agree to the Concept of Komo 1 track working due to Sauten drama which is staple ITV but it was also Novel compared to S1, remember it was reboot and not fresh serial

2. They should have held onto the concept of AnuPre with separations/ arrangement etc later if it worked for them with antagonists.

3. What we can clearly see is Bajaj track NOT working when it took S1 route. Why could not makers understand it.They could have tweaked it like Komo 1 track but all they can come up Ek Chaat as you said due to bad writing.

4. After end of Bajaj 1 track people were fed with the recurring drama of Kasauti turning the characters arcs upside down of ML and FL and there was NO coming back after that even during Komo 2 track although the premise was same like Komo 1 (Sauten track)

No one disagrees bad writing was bane of this serial but it came thus far with some pocket achievements (Slot leader during ENTIRE Komo 1/ some of Komo 2 track, Channels top sometimes, DECENT if not great TRP of 2.0+ most of times, Channel favourite Jodi ) is NO mean feat imo.

How could one even reach there with such bad writing, meaning some things did go well.

Ref: My POST on this TRP thread at Page 127 for more details.

But I can tell you what did happen reaction wise. The entire channel/PH were in panic because they didn't pick up numbers before komo1 track. Again 2.0 means nothing if your show is ranking somewhere in the top 15 and top 20 and not even flirting close to top10/slot lead which kzk didn't.

SP with its hands tied due to Ekta putting in a gargantuan investment, buying the slot, and pouring money into SP's pockets to get rights to the show for alt balaji still managed to rankle, meddle and issue soft ultimatums to bring in the anurag x komolika marriage track asap. That happened, and with some miracle, the entire dhaga thing worked. Now at the end of the day we can speculate why it did work or didn't work. But what's important is to note that the show never hit that same high again.

Bajaj1 track didn't bring in those returns because had he done that, he would've been put on retainer right away. That track was scrapped to go back to the one formula that worked for this show, but the numbers didn't go as high, and took a gargantuan fall again. Enough damage? IDK. But SP did issue a very strong ultimatum here. The channel had begun to see the show as a liability. However, since KZK had shown that it could fall within the upper ranges, Ekta and the channel had a meeting, they did the entire revamp thing, the money went out of ekta's pocket again and lo and behold the bridge thing.

At this point, maybe it would've worked had covid not happened. Maybe it would've resurrected the show.

At the end of the day it's easy to vilify one character over another. But one track not working doesn't mean the character led to the show's downfall or did worse. The NV track was the most substance-fueled track of this show. The track a good majority of you and I liked but for the channel it was dead weight.

In comparison to the initial tracks, Bajaj's track wasn't as bad. The problem was it wasn't spectacular or worth the investment either. Bajaj was just costlier. Had they brought in Bajaj with his entire family, sent Prerna to their house and let her in-laws insult, ridicule her while her husband was just as difficult, the ratings probably would've hit the sky too. This isn't about loyalty. KZK never had a loyal audience. It sure did have an eccentric one.

I think as someone mentioned patterns here, even for a pattern to establish you need at least three iterations with one constant fixed. So at the end of the day, we'll never know if it was two wives fighting over a husband that won them ratings or the fact that Anurag Prerna were already 'spiritually' parineeta style married and Prerna was fighting her in laws at the same time she was fighting her husband/sautan. Plus she was pregnant and he didn't know. Overall, not enough 'patterns' to conclude anything except that this show had bad writing and an even worse luck. A few high points. So a mediocre run. But a good jolt to Ekta's ego so maybe win win. 😆

My overall conclusion is simple. Should've kept anupre married/separated and bringing their A angst game to the table. At least they would've known if that was working for them or not. Now they'll just speculate all their lives like you and I. 😆

Originally posted by: -RD-

Future Happy ending se bhi trp ko koi farak na padha so much for the happy ending promotions and the focus on the leads and their story!

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Viewers are happy that it's ending.

Uss happiness mein hi dekh lete ...even lockdown ki love story had a rise but not this.