In kzk, we have our most progressive and human FL. - Page 2

Originally posted by: hope4u

The point is in the barrage of perfect non existent God complex women that is usually the norm for ITV, prerna is not one. Does that mean she is like you and me?? No not really. But she is fallible and that makes her relatable She is as close to you and me as seen in an itv female lead. And just the fact that in an Ekta Kapoor TV show, there is a lead who is far from perfect makes her endearing and progressive. In a world where we always judge women by set norms, where women, especially on TV shows are shown to be the embodiment of all that is good and right, a female lead who has her own set agendas and priorities, and her own view of right and wrong is refreshing indeed.

As for referring to individuals in a disclaimer, that's not my place. Anyone who doesn't like being referred to as a part of a Fandom, simply need not count themselves in one. 👍🏼since I've not mentioned anyone, it's moot.

Thanks for replying to my post. Its interesting how you said that she is more relatable to you and me. I can't speak about you but as far as I am concerned, She is equally not-relatable to me like other God complex FLs of ITV.

I am not perfect (no one is) but I look do towards getting better but FLs in discussion here is only getting worse and making her family's life miserable too in het quest for love. So no she is not close to me.

She would have been along with all her faults if she was a bit respectful or selfish for her own sake sometimes. I had a bit of hope when office track began and how she looked determined to renovate her burnt house but we all know what happened to all that. So no she not close to me.

All I can say is FL is the most lazily written character of ITV (whatever I have seen), where CVs just don't want to or have lost interest in keeping her logical and natural. Her character to me is not Godly, not humanly .its not progressive or regressive Its just confused..

About disclaimer- if you only wanna see individuals just as a part of fandoms I respect your choice ..I just made a harmless suggestion, didn't expect anything...

Originally posted by: _charu_

I thought some path breaking scene happened today..but then I read the update 🤣 So from now on whenever thy will use their brains I will call them regressive , if all that's mentioned here is progressive ...how dare they not act human 😆 I will reserve these words for that time ..wonder why , by this logic, komo, moh and bajaj were not given a leeway .. they r homos too..

If anurag alone is the bone of contention , then komo and moh are at par with prerna ..coz komo's universe also circles around anurag..to the level of obsession.and mohini s world also...anurag...to the level of obsession..howcome the other two arent human and first one is.😕.if one can have a tunnel vision, if being hypocrite is human,its human to be selfish and manipulative too..this way all demarcarions between right and more right and wrong and more wrong can be removed.. koi debate ki zaroorat hi nai..

Your point is valid. If hypocrisy is human so is selfishness and manipulation. If prerna is human in the fact that her world revolves around anurag, so are Komo and mohini.

But are we really going to overlook the glaring difference that prerna is not playing dice with other people's life. She is is not ruining other people's lives in her manipulations, nor is she stealing other people's happiness in her selfishness.. She's not murdering people in her obsessions and her desires.. There exists the difference between prerna and the others that you've mentioned. If it's all the same to you, then suit yourself. 😊

Originally posted by: hope4u

Your point is valid. If hypocrisy is human so is selfishness and manipulation. If prerna is human in the fact that her world revolves around anurag, so are Komo and mohini.

But are we really going to overlook the glaring difference that prerna is not playing dice with other people's life. She is is not ruining other people's lives in her manipulations, nor is she stealing other people's happiness in her selfishness.. She's not murdering people in her obsessions and her desires.. There exists the difference between prerna and the others that you've mentioned. If it's all the same to you, then suit yourself. 😊

One of the points is similar right ?if her obsession for anurag is normal and human and goes beyond the boundaries of normal love , so is moh and komos love for anurag..I didnt mention the difference, I mentioned the similarity..then why not value their love too? Chalo komo is a murderer..moh toh loves anurag selflessly no? Like prerna? The fact is that loving someone without the sense of right and wrong doesnt elevate , but degrade a person..just as everybody expected anurag to fall on prernas feet after humiliation, but he didnt say a simple sorry also so their love became unique ? Likewise prerna became the most progressive character on itv ! I will take the godly ones anyday, but that's my choice alone..

What about her dumbness of keeping quiet at the most crucial moments , when these life changing events occurred which she calls kasauti zindagi kay? Bad writing ? Combine the 2 sentences..prerna is written this badly. She doesnt tell her family why she married bajaj..she doesnt tell her family why she wanted to marry naveen.. she doesnt tell her family she is going to bb to act anurags dhaga wife..she doesnt tell her family/police/molly/anupam the truth of komo so that some action is taken and komo is arrested..I am sure anurag will.not die with this news ? .knowing komo tried to kill her in a pregnant state by giving her electric shock , tried to kill her child.too,yet she took it as a tom and jerry game ? Komo humiliated her and her family publicly yet she got away with a sorry . N now komo caused her accident ...but she will wait for another 4 or 5 attempts to murder or try to outsmart komo in her own game..jo maza sautan sautan mein hai wo police police mein Kahan? That's what she thinks ?

Originally posted by: _charu_

I thought some path breaking scene happened today..but then I read the update 🤣 So from now on whenever thy will use their brains I will call them regressive , if all that's mentioned here is progressive ...how dare they not act human 😆 I will reserve these words for that time ..wonder why , by this logic, komo, moh and bajaj were not given a leeway .. they r homos too..

If anurag alone is the bone of contention , then komo and moh are at par with prerna ..coz komo's universe also circles around anurag..to the level of obsession.and mohini s world also...anurag...to the level of obsession..howcome the other two arent human and first one is.😕.if one can have a tunnel vision, if being hypocrite is human,its human to be selfish and manipulative too..this way all demarcarions between right and more right and wrong and more wrong can be removed.. koi debate ki zaroorat hi nai..

You know what begs the question.. if Anurag was not the ML of the show then will Prerna's obsession and tunnel vision with him be considered 'human' and 'progressive'(still shocked this word was used 😆). It would be considered pathetic instead as any woman who does not know how to stand up for herself when manhandled,when degraded,called derogatory names can NEVER be progressive. Human yes,one pathetic excuse of a human whose life has no purpose other than catering to a man nomatter what he does.

Everything at the end boils down as a blatant and blind form of hero worship that Prerna and the likes indulge in which excuses the worst of toxic masculinity and seeks to empower the complete lack of self esteem and identify in the guise of 'love' for the man.

Originally posted by: hope4u

I've been reading a lot of posts regarding the content of kzk and whether it is regressive, oppressive or shows women in a bad light. So today I just wanted to pen my thoughts on the status of women as shown on this show, which I perceive as a woman, through the eyes and life of its female lead.

I have always found prerna to be a very relatable character comparatively, when you factor in the fact that she is the lead of a Ekta shown on ITV. What has endeared me the most about prerna, more than her predecessor of the same name has been her human fraility. She is not perfect, she is not shown to be a Devi in human Form, perfect and flawless, and the up holder of all that is good and right. She is human, and in that is the very embodiment of the saying "to err is human". She has her priorities: anurag first and foremost, followed by the rest of her family. This has been a point of discussion time and again but isn't this the most human of characteristics?? All of us have priorities. Relationships, people, situations, we always priorities. This is a show which was bold enough to show its female lead getting a divorce, without any hesitation or remorse. A female lead who never for a minute showed any soft corner or feelings for her ex husband and never once looked back. She was very clear on what that marriage meant to her and never once wavered from it. How many such marriages have we seen in itv, where the norm is to see a woman staying forever in a loveless marriage or learning to love a man no matter how much he may have wronged her. She is hypocritical enough to take a stand for what is right and sending Bajaj, her husband, to jail, yet she backs out and says no matter how wrong anurag is, she cannot go against him. How wonderfully, humanly, refreshingly hypocritical of her. I have not seen an Ekta TV show FL do that. In fact, I'd go a step further and say that through prerna, we are probably seeing our most forward and progressive female lead, and by extention, the most progressive show in recent memory. Progressive because it's more human. Which then brings me to this question : is the show regressive.?? Or are we simply led by our own preferences and prejudices and simply use progressive or regressive thoughts or ideas as a crutch.??

Let's look at the following instances:

Prerna, the female lead is questioned because she has always prioritized anurag over her family. She lacks a balance it is said. Doesn't respect and value all her relationships equally. Whereas the male lead, who tries to balance all his relationships is also questioned for not breaking ties with his mother or teaching her a lesson.

Prerna who values the tokens of marriage given to her by anurag with love is ridiculed. That marriage, the only one which had the man and woman with full knowledge and love accept each other is laughed at. But the same prerna who sat like a lifeless statue, chained in a bond crying for her love is is expected to value those very same tokens, and that marriage, a sham, or a resigned compromise at the very least is celebrated as something wonderful.. What then is more regressive.?

Two women fighting over a man is regressive, but expecting a woman to stay in a loveless marriage, bound by conditions isnt?

Like many, I also find something like a sautan track and 2 women fighting for sindoor and mangalsutra rights ridiculous and regressive. There's no arguments there, that cannot be justified. But there have been many instances, far too many, where kzk has made an attempt to be a far more progressive show than its being given credit for.

Disclaimer: please share all your thoughts without any mocking and bashing. This is an open request to all fandoms.

To err is human but to go through the same grind without learning from your mistakes is sheer stupidity . Prerna as a character may have all the qualities you have mentioned above but those qualities are only depicted in certain instances based on the convenience of the makers . Her utter disregard for her unborn child as well as the humiliation her mother has to go through for the sake of her love is rather appalling . She may have certain relatable characteristics but on a whole , not at all

Originally posted by: Pranchat

To err is human but to go through the same grind without learning from your mistakes is sheer stupidity . Prerna as a character may have all the qualities you have mentioned above but those qualities are only depicted in certain instances based on the convenience of the makers . Her utter disregard for her unborn child as well as the humiliation her mother has to go through for the sake of her love is rather appalling . She may have certain relatable characteristics but on a whole , not at all

To add to this, using the objective ‘most progressive’ for Prerna would be wrong since there are many other female leads on ITV who are consistently progressive with good storytelling

Anurags equation with his mother is different from.veenas equation with prerna. Anurag and moh are in a "disagreement" hence anurag needs to balance it out...its his choice , if he does it or if he doesnt , he wont be condemned.....veena and prerna are not like that , still, she chooses not to share a single event or decision of her life with her...a dangerous criminal is lurking around her , and she and her sidekick sister are feeling giddy at the thought of getting anurags attention ? She takes a life changing decision..to leave anurag and marry bajaj and she chooses not to reveal anything to her mother who then curses her ! Never in the history of itv, a mother and daughter equation has been shown so badly..can any daughter relate to this? Having a relation like this with her mom?

Rest of the points , if we judge a character only in comparison to others , then nobody will look good to us...means she and anurag are pathetic but.chalo she was.more pathetic with bajaj..I dont support this reasoning...likewise the comparison with other female leads..each one is unique and have their plus and minus but in the history of itv therr hasn't been a show as trashy as kzk 2 and that's because of the actions of their leads only. They just refuse to ACT..act as in action not acting..😆

Bang on, Hope! ❤️ I don’t have much to say since you have simply added everything - can read it again and again, sooooooooooo satisfying. ⭐️😳

Finally a perfect post to honour Prerna Sharma Basu - the girl who lives her life as per her own standards but at the same time can give up on things for the ones she loves truly. she’s a beautiful paradox *sigh* 🥀

To live and let live - the only thing we gotta be concerned about 😊 at the end of the day if a person feels certain way happy then that’s what really matters. Not everyone thinks on the same tangent. Priorities vary.

Originally posted by: _charu_

Anurags equation with his mother is different from.veenas equation with prerna. Anurag and moh are in a "disagreement" hence anurag needs to balance it out...its his choice , if he does it or if he doesnt , he wont be condemned.....veena and prerna are not like that , still, she chooses not to share a single event or decision of her life with her...a dangerous criminal is lurking around her , and she and her sidekick sister are feeling giddy at the thought of getting anurags attention ? She takes a life changing decision..to leave anurag and marry bajaj and she chooses not to reveal anything to her mother who then curses her ! Never in the history of itv, a mother and daughter equation has been shown so badly..can any daughter relate to this? Having a relation like this with her mom?

Rest of the points , if we judge a character only in comparison to others , then nobody will look good to us...means she and anurag are pathetic but.chalo she was.more pathetic with bajaj..I dont support this reasoning...likewise the comparison with other female leads..each one is unique and have their plus and minus but in the history of itv therr hasn't been a show as trashy as kzk 2 and that's because of the actions of their leads only. They just refuse to ACT..act as in action not acting..😆

I've always maintained that the way prerna handled the entire Bajaj fiasco was abysmal. Because of her one wrong decision of not keeping her family in the loop, they had to endure continued taunts at the hands of the Basus (which is anyway a part and parcel of mohini basu), whereas in reality they could've held their head high and had the Basus be eternally grateful to them for the sacrifice their daughter made.

But beyond that, I can rather understand a relationship where a daughter chooses to hide certain aspects of her life from her mother, especially those aspects which will only sadden and worry the mother. Nothing wrong there.

As for judging a character in comparison with others, I believe I had just made that in response to the comparison you had already made of Prerna with Bajaj and Komo etc. Nowhere in my original post have I done that. But comparing with other FL, as far as I've seen, she is much more relatable. Including the original prerna who was insufferable. And that is by no means a wrong comparison which neither increases or reduces her worth. Prerna as a stand alone is a relatable FL is all I've wanted to say. Nice talking to you.

Cheers.

She must be very strong to have carried on with that pregnancy until here ... despite all the vagarities of life ... some one else might have got rid of that baby long back ...