Analysis of Prerna's reaction - Page 2

hey manasi, a long and good post, its very rare u write and when u do, its with substance.

frosty gave a similar response to what i had in mind, but i'll give mine, as it differs slightly,

Manasi your whole analysis holds truth, or lets say plausiblility, if one answers, the following:
Had prerna slept with a man in a drunken state, would she have been forgiven by bajaj? Let us assume this man is not anurag, but someone, let's say Vineet, can bajaj forgive prerna, i don't think prerna is all righteous, but nor do i agree with the hypocrisy and double standards we hold for indian women.

All of us would cry out slut, had prerna done that, now, i am no means stating that what bajaj did was wrong or that it cannot be justified under the circumstances(those who don't understand the point, will continue to state i am villifying bajaj), but i'm not.

Since this is a storyline, it's a bit unrealistic, bajaj doesn't say anything in his defence, is that a mistake of prerna, or a fault of bajaj, if someone thinks wrong of him, and he begs to differ, then he should communicate the information, and second of all, and most important of all, make sure the message is understood.

I watched the episode, it was clear that bajaj thought madhvi was prerna.

I think in these circumstances, prerna should forgive bajaj....however, you have to be very very careful when u justify actions based on state of drunkedness, men rape women and say it is because they were drunk, you drink and drive, you do all these actions, and true, in that time, you do not know the consequences of your actions, but you do know before, and you do know afterwards, bajaj, should have told his wife at that time, if he had that much faith in his relationship, he didn't, when u are constantly afraid of losing someone, you never had that person in the first place, you shouldn't start relationships on lies, or let's ask the question why didn't bajaj tell, did he not want to hurt prerna or what it to feed his own insecurities?

i like the character of bajaj, there are some good and bad, and the same goes for the rest of the characters,and its great if you think bajaj is the greatest of them all; however, since no man or woman is perfect, we should admit those mistakes, because acknowleding is the first step in changing our ways.

anyways, good post, you're a friend, i know u won't take it personally, and as usual, i'm expecting a very good response from you

Thanx for liking my post....i liked yours as well.

I fully agree that Bajaj should have told Prerna about Madhvi...and there can be no excuse for that. But don't u think Prerna expects a bit too much out of the men in her life???? you can fathom that in yesterday's episode when she says that she trusted Bajaj more than herself & considered Anurag as God....why doesn't she let them be human. Had she kept her faith in them at human levels, she would have found it easier to accept their mistakes. Those poor men are bucking & succumbing under the pressure of the immense 'faith' she had reposed in them.

Does she care to think what Bajaj might have gone thru waiting for her for 10 years while she pined for Anurag & even after marrying her not really 'getting' her completely? When she is in one of her hugging fits, does she stop to think how would Bajaj feel when he sees her in Anurag's arms...whatever might be the circumstances? Does she ever think how Sneha or Kasak would react had they seen her 'chipkofying' to Anurag?

Does she ever try to think why Anurag hid it from her? Does she understand his condition & what it might have taken him to hide about Madhvi from her...coz that incident greatly incresed his chances with Prerna. Did she ever ask him the reason for doing this???

It didn't take her even 20 secs to proclaim to the world that the 20 years of her wedding with Bajaj was a farce. She took even less time to label Anurag's love as his 'mahanta'.

In todays' episode she tells Bajaj that now u have accepted Tanisha as ur daughter....why not...if she can accept her criminal son instantly, why can't Bajaj???

I've never liked Prerna but I used to empathize with her whenever I used to think of the day she would know about Tanisha....but now I don't. After the way she beheaved with Tushar, I feel that she deserves all the bad fortune in the world. Its a good thing that I can't curse a fictional character...otherwise I would have certainly cursed this female.

Fine, she wanted to sudharofy her son...so she bought him here. Forget Bajaj's feelings...did she ever spare a thought for Tushar? Did she realise how tormenting it would be for Tushar to have Yudi in the same house with him? Even now, she is waiting for Sneha's wedding....doen't she remember that her 'son' Tushar needs her presence in his life?

Fuh-get-it guys...I can go on forever about Prerna. She is the one character in KZK I detest even more than Anurag

Sorry for the bhaashan 😉

Hey,

Manasi, for this post I agree with all of you said, but there's a slight difference, you are now analyzing prerna's character, and you have to judge her actions solely on her actions, likewise, bajaj's actions solely on his actions, not the reactions that follow.

Not that I find it right that Prerna supports someone like UD, but I can certainly understand, a mother who lost her son for 20 years, is definitely not going to see the bad in her son, only the good, but that does not mean she loves tushar any less, i truly believe she loves bajaj's kids as much as she does hers, it has been proven, even when they first married, when bajaj manipulated the situation, irregardless, she took care of his kids, now she is trying to balance everyone and UD is a priority for her, and so is Tusshar, infact, i'm suprised that Bajaj who loves sneha so much is not willing to accept, sorry wrong word, try to change UD's behaviour, after all, his own 3 kids were once like that, before prerna came in his life and fixed them up.
The point is parents aren't supposed to accept bad behaviour from there kids, but they are expected of one crucial thing, to say, look son (or daughter), i disaprove of your actions, but i'm here for you.
And they will come back.
When she does hug anurag, lets put it in the context, during the 20 years marriage of bajaj, not before that, because at that time she does have feelings for bajaj that are of romantic love, now, i cannot think of any scene during her 20 year marriage with bajaj, where she did hug anurag it was because of romance, this man is someone important in her life, this man is the children of 3 of her kids, she is NOT as she has explained time and time again romantic with anurag, not anymore, but why can't two people hug? Okay, now if I judge prerna's actions, she would not ever be able to take the sight of bajaj hugging another woman, there we are at it, its because both of them are insecure about their relations, prerna hugged anurag at the court scene, i remember, and bajaj and apo*na said this time they need to be together, it was when they lost prem's case (before the leap i think), they have hugged only due to the fact they are parents.
Again, if you analyze prerna's actions, you got to do so alone, and not mix it with other people's actions, though ofcourse outsiders do have an effect on their behaviour, but when u look at them individually, you see the flaws and goods in them easier

Prerna ofcourse, should accept Tanisha, but there are phases we all go through, when we deal with a crisis, i don't remember the order, but it goes something like, denial, anger, trying to change it, and accepting it.
I think the order is wrong, someone is psych, will fix it up for me sure. Right now, you cannot expect prerna to accept tanisha, she's still in the coping stage, and to her right now, she only sees accepting tanisha as accepting bajaj's mistake, but i think in the future she will see as tanisha as bajaj's child, and therefore, her child, and give her the same love, or atleast we hope. Bajaj should do the same with UD, had Tushar done the same thing, i'm sure he would have thought it wrong, but i know he would still be there for him, there is a difference in being there, and in accepting someone's mistake, that's all i ask of bajaj.
If she can accept UD right away, you ask, but then you got to ask when did she never accept UD? she always did, so you can't draw a comparison between tanisha and UD.
And we ought to remember, parenting is a skill that is required from both parents, not just of the mother, is kasak is neglected its because of the two, and not because of one.
Now, I haven't watch many episodes, but i've read some updates, and not the one to which you are referrring to, where she calls anurag god, but keep in mind that i haven't read the updates, the only explanation i can give for this, is its a figure of speeech, i won't disclose details, but my dad, once said to someone we all trusted, you were like my God, had God come down here and said this to me, I wouldn't have believed it, but you have done this infront of mine eyes"
Something like that he had said, when we say you were like my God, she is saying Anurag, his intentions are usually good, (for the sake of argument, let's ignore the fact that those good intentions have usually backfired and have results in horrible outcomes), that's all she meant, that she trusted anurag always had good intentions, and that he would be truthful to her, but anurag didn't knwo at that time, and after prerna got married to bajaj, anurag no longer had the authority to meddle in their affairs, but that was anurag's fault that he did not tell, but why blame anurag, when your own husband falls short?
Again, i agree with lots you said, because you were analyzing prerna's actions, but they do not in any means justify bajaj's actions.

Oh Manasi, just to write, you know i only usually post in topics where there are debates, its because i like to debate, not fight, i learn lots from signora, you indogirl, and so many other good analyzers....its a show, but i can definitely use it for the real world.
so i'm not pushing you, i'm merely learning from you all.

Some good discussion you are having here - manasi and jessie.
Manasi, if you observe prerna before leap and after leap, you'll observe that the character has changed its very essence. She is just not the same. Age-wise, certain maturity comes when one is 60, but Prerna has only become mentally unbalanced.
Three things have played a role here, which have nothing to do with the story-
1. The need to have 'drama'. Her behaviour raises eyebrows, and draws attention. Her periodic swings pro-bajaj and pro-anurag, keeep both the fan-camps happy. It is mere business- to keep all viewers happy once in a while. Come to think of it, if there are no problems and tensions in the life of the Bajaj couple and their children, what's left to show in kzk? Troubles are there in the marriage, in the lives of kasak and tushar, in the form of udi and tanisha- to keep the story going.

2. The change of team. Rekha Modi- kyunki's script-writer , recently took over both kzk and jassi. She is writing them her own way ,and I don't think she even watched kzk one year ago.

3. The mental capability of new writers. Look at the new characters they have conceived. They are not the same people who wrote and built great characters like bajaj, anurag, moloy, even komolika, aparna, and prerna.
The new lot- sam, kasak, shravan, sneha- have no substance. I think script-writers are to be blamed for the way story is going.

4. Ronit's kzk-sarkarr drama. He stretched it for too long. For 2-3 months, nobody knew what he was going to do. As a contingency plan (in case he quits), the kzk storyline was changed in a way to bring prerna-anurag closer, so that tomorrow, if 90 % viewership is lost (due to ronit's exit), at least the 10 % viewership that comprises of anurag-fans ,will remain. Unless Ronit claims his position in Ekta's good books, Bajaj is going to suffer.

Oh, I forgot to add, the dialogues are written by Rekha Modi. The woman is famous for her lower-middleclass street culture and has been booked by police in the past for threatening an actress. I have seen her, and she lacks grace and decency.
You cannot expect such a person to write great dialogues. So don't take what Prerna or anurag or bajaj says very seriously- it's Rekha Modi saying, not the character.

Originally posted by: tulip

Some good discussion you are having here - manasi and jessie.
Manasi, if you observe prerna before leap and after leap, you'll observe that the character has changed its very essence. She is just not the same. Age-wise, certain maturity comes when one is 60, but Prerna has only become mentally unbalanced.
Three things have played a role here, which have nothing to do with the story-
1. The need to have 'drama'. Her behaviour raises eyebrows, and draws attention. Her periodic swings pro-bajaj and pro-anurag, keeep both the fan-camps happy. It is mere business- to keep all viewers happy once in a while. Come to think of it, if there are no problems and tensions in the life of the Bajaj couple and their children, what's left to show in kzk? Troubles are there in the marriage, in the lives of kasak and tushar, in the form of udi and tanisha- to keep the story going.

2. The change of team. Rekha Modi- kyunki's script-writer , recently took over both kzk and jassi. She is writing them her own way ,and I don't think she even watched kzk one year ago.

3. The mental capability of new writers. Look at the new characters they have conceived. They are not the same people who wrote and built great characters like bajaj, anurag, moloy, even komolika, aparna, and prerna.
The new lot- sam, kasak, shravan, sneha- have no substance. I think script-writers are to be blamed for the way story is going.

4. Ronit's kzk-sarkarr drama. He stretched it for too long. For 2-3 months, nobody knew what he was going to do. As a contingency plan (in case he quits), the kzk storyline was changed in a way to bring prerna-anurag closer, so that tomorrow, if 90 % viewership is lost (due to ronit's exit), at least the 10 % viewership that comprises of anurag-fans ,will remain. Unless Ronit claims his position in Ekta's good books, Bajaj is going to suffer.

Good one Tulip..the new characters just seem such a misfit in the storyline..they make you wonder where they came from..Kasak has nothing of Bajaj..Sneha has nothing of Anurag..Prem has nothing of Prerna..they are all crap..and now this Sneha'-Sharad thing is just SO boring..but I think it is being done in such a hurry only to build up for the drama..

But I disagree with you when you say that Bajaj will suffer unless Ronit gets into Ekta's good books again;primarily because there remains no bad blood over the two now that he has officialy chosen her over Manish and sacrificed such a grear show Sarrkkar for Kasautii and Kyunki..
and secondly, why woll Ekta degrade the character if she has something against the actor?? Her shows ride on the characters..she is definitely not into such high-loss risks!!

Hey,

Thanks tulip for pointing out that the writing team has changed, and therefore, there are going to be changes in the characters...perhaps, that's why kzk has made so many illogical turns. However, art has become like any other business, frequent changes in the team are a norm in almost every television show.
I truly believe Ekta's show are more business oriented than any political or social statements, she plays it safe 95% of the time, and the other 5% for the mere, PR stunts, so I'm quite aware that no drama in KZK would equal no show.
I don't think she would degrade Bajaj's character as ronitfan pointed out, but I do agree with you that Ekta could if she wanted to minimize his role, which she had done a couple months ago.
As well, Tulip, I think its great that you like to observe the overall, changes in the show, i can't pinpoint the name, but you come from the school of thought, which believes that not only is it important to analyze the art, its important to analyze the person who creates the art, and the history period in which it was created, because it gives more insight about the art itself...that's a very good tool to have for analyzing stories...the only real danger of that is, or perhaps, caution one can make trivial assumptions and get far off from the story, though i don't believe you have gone there, and yes, lots of things are becoming clear now that you made us aware that the writers have changed, when did this change come about?
I'd like to pinpoint the change myself.

Oh i forgot to add tulip, i agree with you not to take any of the characters seriously, i don't, but i think its important to study stories because they shed knowledge on life...they are created from us, therefore, we can find a bit of ourselves in them, or someone who we know in those characters, and i'm really glad you joined in the discussion, i think some people on this forum think that you (tulip), manasi, signora, indogril, me, and some others debate because we are so serious, but we learn so much more with discussions like these, i'm not a very serious person, only when i have to be. One never knows how they come across on computers.

i haven't nor do i think manasi stated bajaj cheated, our disagreement is over his actions thereafter.
though, he had no idea about tanisha, he did know about his one night stand, and i think prerna needed to know, because she had a right to know