Imli ka boota, beri ka ped (bitter&sweet) - Page 11

Originally posted by: Sheena_Row

Nina,

I think I might have my wires crossed. I am saying that Desperate wives, Dallas and Dynasty are shown prime time before bedtime of little children and they have a lot of Quote *Crap* Unquote - Yeh i get that point and thats true 😊 its worse than ks though well actually they both over the top but ks is a water down version for asian audience😆

I was saying I didn't know if KS was being promoted as a family entertainment, neither is DHW...I haven't seen it being advertised as family entertainment. I have not either 😕 its on at 8:30 here around the watershed

Thanks for your comments about mature...I think there are people at home who may disagree, but that's a different story...😉 no its true i like the way you put across your points😊

Lovely song Rivs dear😃,

And yes the song and movie was picturised on two stalwarts of the Indian Movie Industry👏.

We all expected sone great performances when RR came into the picture as AD, but what we got we all know.

But I really donot undertand why do you think that a 09:00 pm show in the night is a family show dear.

No shown shown on this time is a family show dear, it always are fillend with Adult content or parents should moniter their young impressionable kids if they even watch TV after their shows that come around till 07:00 pm.

And if you have ever watched Ekta's or any others production house dramas which come after 08:00 pm onwards they are all PG rated dear.

All dramas do deal with real life, things like older men falling with younger woman do happen, they are men like Jai who fall in love with girls young enough to be their daughter, give gifts to them without even disclosing their own identity, calling woman bad names, rapes happen to female by outsiders or even their own family members etc.

The worst thing that they showed according to all, was the two marriages in the same day🤢 dear, but the rest?????😕

There are females like Pia in real like too who are over the top, ambitious, have affairs with their own jijus, get married to them, maybe rape them by drugging them, etc.

They are people in real life who are obssessive too and will do what ever it take them to get what they want, be it money, position or person.

There are sisters like Jigs too and lovers or wife wanting to take revenge too.

Thus calling this shown a family show being ruined all of a sudden is wierd dear.😕

June 19th though beauitfulkly pictuerised by Ekta teams was not a family viewing thing now was it, nor the whole ONS fiasco, Rape, one sister sleeping with her jiju and sister in the same room, etc that have already been mentioned dear.

Is RR enter so bad that all the past things that are wrong are put on his door , that the show is not a family show any more dear, it was runined long back before RR even made his entry dear.

Thus KS never was a family show at all and things that Ekta shows does happen in real life too but in Dramas the things are over exaggerated.

One can ask that the story improve etc but saying that it is not a family show all of a sudden is very suprising in deed, as it never was dear and no 9 o'clock show are family shows at all.

Though in India and even Pakistan, young girls do watch these shows with great relish and as Shoba said so beautifully in her post, values are given and instilled in Kids by the parents , to know or differentiate between what is right and what is wrong.

And showns like this should be watched for entertainment and if the story is way to replusive one can always watch something else, that is more pleasant or liked. And switch back to the show when the story improves, by giving it a break.

No offense was meant, just my POV

Love

Krishna

Originally posted by: abhavarma

Meena,
But recently, it is only evil winning. One is challenging God and he is shown to win in a literal sense.

Evil has been winning since post ONS, it is not a recent phenomenon. Good stopped winning when Pia raped Jai and got away with it. Good stopped winning when Jai got blackmailed by Pia after what was then known as the ONS. Good stopped winning when Bani was framed for murder. Good stopped winning when Bani delivered in jail. Good stopped winning when the babies were snatched from her. Good stopped winning when Jai groveled at Pia's feet and Pia just said chliye Uthiye yeh sab naatak theek nahi lagtaa hai.

Evil has been winning a long time dear. RR's entry has nothing to do with the chronology on evil winning.

Abha, when i said recently only evil is winning i also said that with Pia in mind not only AD...I specifically mentioned challenging god, cos that is the worst thing according to me...We all consider God to be the highest power and someone challenging that and winning is not something i can take...In fact, if you notice, i did say that the show has negativity right from the start. Guess you missed that.😉

But what about some who dont? We might think that shows dont influence ppl, but i can tell, shows make a subtle influence on ppl. It does.

How about not showing the same man going from one sister's bedroom to anothers (and that too Karva Chauth nite), or the feeling of stomach scene with the man lying between two sisters and so on as I mentioned in my earlier mail. Nothing has been shown in this track that violates the family values anymore than what happened in the last tracks since October. I must admit I have not seen a week's worth of episodes. But I have read the updates and am going by them. If I am wrong, my apologies in advance.
And dear, NO ONE in the forum ever appreciated all those scene, not me atleast...we all did make noise then as well. If you want, i can pull out posts for you...we have always been making noise about negativity and grossness they show. It is not a recent phenomenon for us to talk about the grossness they show...Guess u missed that too😉

Another point, I so agree. If removing a character gives good storyline I am okay with it.

Removing which character Meena? Just as you may want one character to stay, others may want a longer stay for a second character on the show. Someone very eloquently said, different strokes for different folks and in order for that to happen, let the show provide a variety of characters.
I did not say which character Abha...But if u ask me to chose, I will chose Pia first and then AD...that is my personal choice...well, others have their own choices too but i have my own. It is not as if my personal choice is gonna change the whole show. Is it...you can support ur choice and i can support mine...I also want variety but just to give us variety i dont want grossness. That is my point. If variety is to enhance the whole show, i am okay with it. But if that "variety" has to be enhanced at the cost of already existing characters, I am not okay with it. But that is my view.😊

It is a team work...all the characters must be strong and have that impact for the storyline to have that impact.

I support this 100%. Any show is team work and all characters need to be strong, especially the main protagonist. I have been asking for a strong and tall JW post leap. I don't know what vision they have for JW's characterization.

I must admit I have become disenchanted with JW and started liking AD but despite that, all I have wanted post leap is for JW to stand tall before AD's revenge or before any love triangle because unless he does, the story will push forward in a lopsided way, the balance between characters will be lost. Just my POV. My view as well. There is not balance in the story at all dear....At last I agree with you.😉😆

Abha

Rivs..

Good one.

Agree it was love story between JB and their chem with JDD tune is what attracted me to KS. The KS which SS started and handled was something else that man used to virtually visualise every shot and the result was First 6-7 months of KS and with his exit KS lost all the charm and it has still not reagined its old charm.
The KS which once boosted abt beautiful relationships be it b/w 3 sis ,the one Bani had with Pushkar,the one between jiggs- jai,jai-pushkar and the most beautiful of all JB relationship everything every single relation has been ruined and in this process thy ridicued many things like marraige and pia drugging JW all in anem of TRP's?? well why dont i see any TRP's ,the KS which was always in top 5 usually in 3 and 5 pos in beginning whn nothing was shown today is slipping to 7,9 and 11.
Many watch KS coz it was different,no saas-bahu drama but it was a simple story but it did loose its path in the journey.
Coming back to post-leap KS looks more hillarious than it was whn ONS was aired,what amazes me is the way two strong charcters JW and BW hav been handled and why are thy being shown in such poor light??for whom??? and the fun is inspite all this vain attempts JB still remain the main reason why still ppl hold on to KS.
Why cant all char be shown strong??why only JW is shown to hav raaz,cant another char hav them??why is o why the leads are been manipulated in this way and why is wrong winning why show all this whn at end of day u hav to show truth winning!
The battle/Revenge wtever lost its grip on third day wn it was in way cleared that bani's revenge has taken back seat was this leap to shown stronger version of bani taking revenge but where is she?? she looks like a confused being who herself doesnt knw her the way to her destination.JW frankly spking he wasnt shown doing anything,i am still waiting to see him pik up his weapon and make the move and announce the war.

The biggest wrong in KS thy dont clear things but thy bring in new tracks,i think its hight time with this turkey one thy clear JW name of ONS and that stupid sahil muder also, then start with new set of raaz
Removal of char,u know my choice 😉

meena ,abha the problem with the characters is that they are being handled by immatures,character butchering is not something that started now,and yes one or two characters cannot hold a show uless there is a story.....
let us start from the beginning
sonali and mohan where have they dissappeared suddenly,we cld have had a triangle then ,where is rakshnada,where is bainali,she had such great potential her track was the worst handled she dissappeared then came tarun sablok..it wld have been really good watch if we cld see a love story of a friend torn between trying to be loyal to his friendship and the sympathy he feels for this heart broken woman which uninttentionally develops into love,it wld have been a good story
coming to AD why was he introduced with a past ,why cld'nt he be the mysterious stranger who helps bani out and in the processs a friendship develops which agains bloooms into love ,,,whether one or two side .....

then came the leap and a hope to see revenge ..we kept on waiting for revenge and suddenly it was a love angle ,how when what????then the great marriages ,then another raaz which given the creatives past record they will make a fool out of the characters themselves and us

there has been no story from alimony time ,we tolerated then came ONS where pia was butchered mercilessly....i always liked one thing abt that gal inspite of her vainess her stand and possessiveness for her sisters ..why cld'nt they have shown her repenting and torn between jai and bani....if jai walia can make a mistake and still be human what ws wrong in doing the same to pia ..but now she has been turned into pure evil

not one character including the leads have been treated with respect,and a dumb viewer like me can make that out ..and i call myself that coz inspite of continous dashing of our hopes i still expect a sensible storyline .... 😕 atleast a story