Imli ka boota, beri ka ped (bitter&sweet) - Page 10

Originally posted by: abhavarma

I am not against AD or RR. And I am not here only for a love story. But what I am here for is to see some quality television with my family. Something I dont feel disgusted with and enjoy watching. I guess this is too much to ask,since a large number of viewers seem to enjoy this repulsive track, and good for them..

Rivya,

Nice post. Catchy title. I have just one issue with your post.

If we are talking family values here and watching TV with family members, the deterioration in the quality of the show started way back when they showed what was then a ONS on Karva Chauth of all nights. How many times have you seen a man come out of the bedroom of one sister and go that of another sister, that too on Karva Chauth? Is it OK to watch that scene with a child or a parent?

A second time to feel awkward about watching the show with parents and children was when JW lay between Pia and Bani, Pia placed his hand on her stomach and Bani slept on. Imagine watching that scene with your teenage daughter or son or your parents who have always shaded you from ugly reality.

A third time to question family values came when JW kissed Pia's forehead and said mera bachcha, an unborn fetus that moved him to such a great extent, now a boy who turns him stone cold. Not once have they shown JW with any feeling for Veer especially since he had so much feelings for that very same kid while in the womb.

A fourth time I questioned family values was the time when post revelation bani went into shock and JW wanted to bring her out of her shocked state. How do watch a guy mouth dialogues such as pia meri zaroorat hai, she is a woman or I look at her as a woman. I understand that the intentions were noble and I know that the path to hell is paved with noble intentions.

I teach my kids to tell the truth even if they get in trouble. What kind of family values are they going to learn when they constantly see either one or the other spouse lying to each other? What kind of a dysfunctional image will they see of married life?

Now suddenly with AD's entry we are looking for family drama which we can watch with our kids. Not wanting AD in the show is one thing but connecting only his track with repulsion is disingenuous. The story turned rotten to the core way before that. I personally am looking for the pre ONS story that I loved very much. I lost family values in what is supposedly a bitter sweet love story on Karva Chauth and haven't found them since. My point is if we are watching the show for cultural confirmation or for espousing Indian culture, we are using the wrong medium to begin with.

Good night

Abha

LOL, Abha,

You are new on the forum, so you haven't been here when all the ruckus erupted on Karva Chauth or when Pia had Jai's arm around her or the 'Mera Bachha' scene!!

Trust me, the same individuals are very vocal against all these things..in fact every day, there were many many posts denigrating all of the things you mentioned...long before AD came on board.

AD is not the problem, I think people are just insecure about JB, that's all...AD could be used for turning this story interesting if the creatives care about the story....

Abha ,
I agree that it is kinda fool hardy to even expect BT serials to conform to "moral ethics" and "culture" ...
which is why i left watching all the star plus BT serials after a few months bcuz i couldnt digest the crap that they were showing ...
Now the reason why I hav stuck to ks is only for RK and nothing else , not for PD , not for AD , nor for JB ...
but i dont want a ddg/ad pairing bcuz ... well i will stop bcuz I am going off-topic ..

Now coming back to ur points .. regarding Jai's attachment to Veer ...
Well , jai's was shown to be attached to Pia's unborn kid but ONLY till he came to know that he was drugged ...
I think most of us agree that he was raped right ? So if he isnt attached to Veer cant blame him for that ...
But I am holdind that thought till I see his interaction with the kid .

Originally posted by: abhavarma

I am not against AD or RR. And I am not here only for a love story. But what I am here for is to see some quality television with my family. Something I dont feel disgusted with and enjoy watching. I guess this is too much to ask,since a large number of viewers seem to enjoy this repulsive track, and good for them..

Rivya,

Nice post. Catchy title. I have just one issue with your post.

If we are talking family values here and watching TV with family members, the deterioration in the quality of the show started way back when they showed what was then a ONS on Karva Chauth of all nights. How many times have you seen a man come out of the bedroom of one sister and go that of another sister, that too on Karva Chauth? Is it OK to watch that scene with a child or a parent?

A second time to feel awkward about watching the show with parents and children was when JW lay between Pia and Bani, Pia placed his hand on her stomach and Bani slept on. Imagine watching that scene with your teenage daughter or son or your parents who have always shaded you from ugly reality.

A third time to question family values came when JW kissed Pia's forehead and said mera bachcha, an unborn fetus that moved him to such a great extent, now a boy who turns him stone cold. Not once have they shown JW with any feeling for Veer especially since he had so much feelings for that very same kid while in the womb.

A fourth time I questioned family values was the time when post revelation bani went into shock and JW wanted to bring her out of her shocked state. How do watch a guy mouth dialogues such as pia meri zaroorat hai, she is a woman or I look at her as a woman. I understand that the intentions were noble and I know that the path to hell is paved with noble intentions.

I teach my kids to tell the truth even if they get in trouble. What kind of family values are they going to learn when they constantly see either one or the other spouse lying to each other? What kind of a dysfunctional image will they see of married life?

Now suddenly with AD's entry we are looking for family drama which we can watch with our kids. Not wanting AD in the show is one thing but connecting only his track with repulsion is disingenuous. The story turned rotten to the core way before that. I personally am looking for the pre ONS story that I loved very much. I lost family values in what is supposedly a bitter sweet love story on Karva Chauth and haven't found them since. My point is if we are watching the show for cultural confirmation or for espousing Indian culture, we are using the wrong medium to begin with.

Good night

Abha

Naani that was just brilliant to the core.
I don't have to say anything more.
AD's entry in the show is just an excuse to bring out family viewing and all that.
Yea u r right the night where we he lay between these two sisters while feeling the womb of Pia..where is family viewing there😕.

Disgusting JW with his helplessness...is not family viewing🤢

Actually I read all the past battles Sun and Shoba. I am new to posting but have been visitng the forum a while now. My problem is that when we talk about family values, we need to trace the detrioration of the story to its original beginning point instead of isolating the current track with "since a large number of viewers seem to enjoy this repulsive track" The above appears like everything was hunky dory before but the bitter sweet love story got replaced by revenge in the current track and that the series is getting destroyed now.

The story has been rotten for a very long time. RR's entry has nothing to do with it. That is what I wanted to clarify to those who may think that it is only the current track that is repusive and not family values oriented. If I misread, I apologize.

abha .many have lef tthe show when ONS occured other sleft when post ONS,bcoz of the grossness but many stuck like me hoping to see a rising phoenix ..long time back ,abha we are angry with the way jai walia has been butchered,it wld have been wonderful viewing if actulayy they had concentrated on revenge or the clash of the titans ,these are the same guys who handled parvati's revenge track very nicely.....we all are waiting for a story with continuity..but never the less a story......dear and it has been the state long before RR entered ...jai walia butchering and bani too started a long time back and it is continuing which we are not liking and pia track is not ending at all..it is the same thing

Sun,

I am with you on not liking the butchering of the main protagonists. I hope they don't make JW fall so low that the end victory loses its impact. I am reaching that point soon.

I wish they had shown his revenge against Pia during leap or his clearing of Bani's name during leap. I really don't know where they are headed with JW's characterization. The ship seems rudderless unfortunately.

Lunza, I buy your points about Veer. I too will wait and watch, any slim ray of hope. I too don't want any pairing in this current track. None at all be it AD/DDG or JW/BW. There is so much still to resolve, how will romance flourish.

Well good night for sure now. Its way past my bed time.

Originally posted by: abhavarma

Actually I read all the past battles Sun and Shoba. I am new to posting but have been visitng the forum a while now. My problem is that when we talk about family values, we need to trace the detrioration of the story to its original beginning point instead of isolating the current track with "since a large number of viewers seem to enjoy this repulsive track" The above appears like everything was hunky dory before but the bitter sweet love story got replaced by revenge in the current track and that the series is getting destroyed now.

The story has been rotten for a very long time. RR's entry has nothing to do with it. That is what I wanted to clarify to those who may think that it is only the current track that is repusive and not family values oriented. If I misread, I apologize.

Thanks a lot Abha ..
you certainly said it all ..

and yeah - sweet dreams :)

Good Post Rivs! Yes, the story started with a lot of potential in it and the first 8 months of KS was fabulous! But they started messing up with showing ONS between BIL and SIL which was disgusting and later went on butchering the main characters again and again and they crossed all the limits by making Bani sit in 2 mandaps 🤢 ! And now they are trying to make JW a rapist 😡 ! Was this the same show we all fell in love with, which was a love story with cultural values in those 3 sisters and JW who has egoistic, arrogant, but still helpful who was facing the whole world without any fear 😕 ! Bani who faced her parents death and such a young age brought her sisters up and came to Mumbai in search of a job and even challenged her hubby Mr. Walia and got her sister married in his house, but today this female needs someone to take revenge and JW is shown helpless in front of a girl whose life he had made miserable once! I think there is nothing left in the show to watch! AD talks about revenge, but if he is so concerned, why telecast the CD in front of whole world? How this show getting crappy day by day, its completely disgusting today! There is no level of comparison in the show which was telecasted in 2006 and now which is being aired!

Rivs, A BIG Yea from me.

This show has a lot of negativity and rubbish shown. Not only in this track but even from before. Right from the start there was a lot of negative thoughts but at least at the start good was shown to win against evil. Most of times, Jigs plans flopped. But recently, it is only evil winning. One is challenging God and he is shown to win in a literal sense.

Yes, i agree this is only for entertainment purposes and Ekta is doing a business after all. We all our own analytical skills for us to decide what is right and what is wrong because we have already been taught by our parents what is our culture. But what about some who dont? We might think that shows dont influence ppl, but i can tell, shows make a subtle influence on ppl. It does.

Another point, I so agree. If removing a character gives good storyline I am okay with it. I have been comments about how storyline is interesting now with some new characters. But how can one interesting character make a storyline interesting? It is a team work...all the characters must be strong and have that impact for the storyline to have that impact.

About June 19, many said that it is also not family entertainment. I agree. I dont think I can watch it if my parents but there is a difference there. Sex is a part of everyone's life or married couples and that was what was shown. And Kasamh Se turned out to be a love story and in love story, couples being one would obviously be shown. However, rapes, bigamy are not part of everyone's life...it is not something common in everyone's life and shown rapes, bigamy is gross. And I dont think rapes, bigamy all can be classified as entertainment anytime. They are not...

So rivs, You have my BIG Yea... 😃

Cheers,
Meena

hi meena vey well put ,and rivs you have my YEA too 😊

but if the lady can bluntly put it as do not like do not watch ,i have no hopes from her