Discussion: What If????????? - Page 7

Originally posted by: capricorn2006

A thought-provoking post....however it raises a question in my mind. Jai and Bani are soulmates and yet they never felt that connection to each other before marriage and even after they got married it took them a long time to realize that. So if they had been with different people would they ever have had the liberty of spending so much time in close proximity so as to discover each other as soulmates?

Actually, I always thought that the "connection" was always there prior to marriage as he's always been shown to be protective of her to a certain extent. Note when she was leaving the Mental Mansion and he took it upon himself to check out the neighborhood. Note his concern when Mohan wanted to marry her. So I think that connection was always there but maybe not obvious. It is spending time in close proximity that has allowed them to discover each other and let that latent connection take charge.

Hey Rani,

A Very Interesting topic you have chosen.....

It has definitely struck a cord in me......

I like the What if scenario.......

It would have been interesting to see what would their reaction been if they had realized that they had some connection and yet could not be together.

If Jai Walia was married before the entry of Bani in his life....then probably KS would have taken another height or scenario.....and then neither Jai or Bani would have stepped out of their boundaries...Jai would have never stepped out of his commitment to his wife and Bani would have never acted on her feelings if she had one for Jai Walia.

Another interesting twist in the tale would have been, if Jai Walia would have widowed....if his wife died say during child birth and then circumstances led him to marry Bani....what would that relationship be like? It is definitely a thought that one can ponder upon?

Talking about soulmates...what is soulmate...is the meaning of soulmate does not automatically conclude that the heart has finally found someone that when the person is around physically or in thoughts...it just either begins to skip a beat or better yet looses self-control...because the heart always want the forbidden...what it cannot have....

But Jai-Bani were never soulmates to begin with...circumstances led them to each other and both battled enough thorns and ghosts to reach to each other...the understanding came first and love came later.

But now both have realized that they are made for each other and hopefully they should try to bridge that gap with time and not increase it....!!!!!

This is how I feel....!!!!!!


Keep Smiling,
Happiness Always,
Manish

Originally posted by: Cordelia

My 2 cents... 😕

Jai and Bani are soulmates, definitely no doubt about it.

However, look at the past year and what they have been through before actually admitting to themselves or someone else (not each other as yet! ) that they are connected in this way?

They were pushed together by Pia, pulled apart by KD, sliced open by Reptile and now disjointedly 😕 joined back together by Karuna. In all of this, both of them (one in particular 😡 ) have always put their love/respect/sense of honour for another in front of their own feelings or the feelings of said soulmate.

If a KANK-like situation therefore arose I think it is safe to say that J-B would be non-entity. 😭

First of all, the two would never even admit to themselves that they loved the other, hell, even refuse to admit that they had looked at the other in THAT way!! 😕

If, by some small miracle, they did admit it, both would prefer to pine alone rather than take any proactive steps at taking the hand of their soulmate!

If JW was married and Bani was single - Bani would immediately leave WM and JW would not stop her. He would never betray his wife to go actively looking for her after she has gone, as he is above all a principled and moralistic person. There is a possibility he may divorce his wife knowing well that whether Bani remains in WM or not, she will always be in his heart and he therefore cannot remain true to his wife.

If Bani was married and JW was single - Bani would rather walk on hot coals than even look at another man who was not her husband. She just wouldn't. But as I said, if by some small miracle she admits to herself that she loves JW and not her husband - she would continue to be the aadarsh bahu, patni, ma etc and completely cut JW out of her life, happy to live in total denial or self-flagellation for eternity. JW would drink himself silly in Devdas ishtyle and probably spend the rest of his life as a lonely recluse.
You think i'm kidding don't you. No i'm not.

If both were married to different people - probably the best chemistry that television has ever seen, would be created!! Both would pine for each other but in a strictly "Look-Don't Touch" way! Whereas Bani would behave in the same way as described above, I can see JW behaving in a very SRK-like manner - wavering between picking fights with his wife, or overcompensating in his affection to her in front of Bani. If Bani were to remain in his life after the epiphany of their feelings towards each other, I can imagine him going into self-destruct mode, except the fallout would not be a quiet divorce and lonely reclusion, but rather, a jealous and probably public confession of his feelings!! After which, of course, Jai's wife would leave him, Bani's husband would leave her, and Bani would then leave JW's life forever.

Although I do believe that both are very moralistic people and would never indulge in an affair, or even an ONS, I have suggested the above turn of events because JW has a passion in him that Bani and only Bani seems to ignite. If Bani were to remain in front of him, and that too with another man, then JW's jealousy would lay waste to his usual dignified silence. He would never make any sort of proposal to Bani herself (whether decent or indecent! 😉 ) but would definitely not be able to control his fiery temperament to the fullest, which is what would lead to the "jealous and public confession" suggested.


The fact is, because of the nature of the two duffers, I doubt that had Pia not pushed them together in the first place, there would be no possiblity of a happy and contented collective J-B. 🤢

But I completely agree with previous comments - regardless of where they are or who they are with, the two would still be soulmates, in spirit, but not physically. And the love they feel for each other would never dissipate - whether they chose to admit that or not! 😕

In essence therefore, we do have a lot to thank her for - that is, until she turned into freakish-psycho-chipku!! 😕 😆

Very well said! The way their characters have been sketched out makes it improbable that they would have transgress but nevertheless, they would have remained and acknowledged each other as soulmates, in spirit, if not physically. Like Nina very wisely pointed out, the connotations attached to soulmate transcends any physical definition.

But whether their course of action is just or unjust is debatable.

Originally posted by: majumdar

Rani,

A bit late joining in. But my opinion on the matter.

JW and Bani would perhaps never ever have come to the extent of conisdering each other as soulmates. But by chance if they ever did, neither would ever transgress their own marriage or the other parties. Maybe content to be very good friends in the Bani-Pooch or JW-Sonalu mould but strictly no EMA or ONS.

Rgds,

Pri

I don't think it's a concious decision as such (does that make sense?) It's one of those things that just is or it isn't. But I do agree in that the way their characters have been sketched out, they would have in all probability chosen to walk different paths albeit their destinations will be the same. Whether this is just or unjust is highly debatable.

hey manish! 😃

Originally posted by: mk727272

If Jai Walia was married before the entry of Bani in his life....then probably KS would have taken another height or scenario.....and then neither Jai or Bani would have stepped out of their boundaries...Jai would have never stepped out of his commitment to his wife and Bani would have never acted on her feelings if she had one for Jai Walia.

totally agree! 😆

Another interesting twist in the tale would have been, if Jai Walia would have widowed....if his wife died say during child birth and then circumstances led him to marry Bani....what would that relationship be like? It is definitely a thought that one can ponder upon?

then i think their lives would have been much easier. emotionally JW would have been in the same position that he was at the beginning of his marriage because of Pia - except there would be no element of vengeance because his wife is dead. it would be more an issue of him feeling he is being unfaithful to his wife, and Bani helping him out of his loneliness and guarded exterior. but once the arrow of love pierced their hearts, we would have a "happily ever after" story! 😳

Talking about soulmates...what is soulmate...is the meaning of soulmate does not automatically conclude that the heart has finally found someone that when the person is around physically or in thoughts...it just either begins to skip a beat or better yet looses self-control...because the heart always want the forbidden...what it cannot have....

the forbiden fruit suggestion is how i would descrive an obsession or infatuation. i think a soulmate is a much deeper connection in which you feel emotionally bonded with one particular person whether they come to you as a friend, enemy, or stranger. 😕
But Jai-Bani were never soulmates to begin with...circumstances led them to each other and both battled enough thorns and ghosts to reach to each other...the understanding came first and love came later.

sorry manish, i completely disagree here!! i think they always were soulmates - they just never realised that until they were forced into each other's proximity! 😉

But now both have realized that they are made for each other and hopefully they should try to bridge that gap with time and not increase it....!!!!!

one can only hope!! 😊

This is how I feel....!!!!!!


Keep Smiling,
Happiness Always,
Manish

Originally posted by: fsam

I agree with you, but after having found your soulmate, in my personal opinio it would be hard not wanting to belong to him.

life is hard baby!! what can you do?! 😭

Its not a question of EMA or ONS or whether they would leave their spouses/ Partners if they found out all of a sudden that somebody else was their soul mate.

Thsi realisation I feel is enough to change any person's life, at least internally, becos the external trappings will always have to stay in place if the persons involved are not ready to take the plunge.

The way that JW and Bani's characters have been shaped up, they may not leave everything and everybody for others, but we havent seen that side of them either. It could be a complete revealtion.

Originally posted by: simz99

Hey Rani
A very very thought provoking post indeed. I believe that it is possible to meet your soulmate even after you're married…indeed there are few people that are fortunate enough to be married to their soulmates. What happens if you meet your soulmate afterward is indeed dependant on what sort of person you are, what state your marriage is in and how much you value your marriage I guess. Coming to J-B, it's a really interesting situation…imagine if Jai had been married to a Roshni or someone like Pia (I'm saying this cos prior to Bani these are the sort of women he's been attracted to!) we can safely assume that he would've been quite unhappily married. In that situation I reckon that Bani's simplicity, quiet beauty and strength of character would have attracted him immensely. In turn Bani would have been drawn very strongly to his pain…if you look at their current relationship as well its been based on their mutual loneliness and pain. Those same factors would have drawn them irresistibly and I have no doubts that they would have been involved emotionally but not physically. Both J-B have a very strong moral compass so I doubt whether they would have allowed themselves to cross that line!
I have little doubt that Jai would have ended his marriage prior to cementing his relationship with Bani. But of course if there was a child involved, then the whole equation would change completely – Jai's "mera bachcha" complex would not allow him to step out of his marriage and he would've perhaps let Bani go knowing how futile their relationship would be.
Just my two cents…..
Cheers
Simi

Simi,

Though the thought personally scares the hell out of me, I too believe that it's possible for one to find their soulmate after marrying someone. With regard to Jai and Bani, I can't help but think that if not physically, then spirtitually they would have always been connected had the circumstance been such where one or both were married but chose to upheld their committments.

Originally posted by: sangitadas

Its not a question of EMA or ONS or whether they would leave their spouses/ Partners if they found out all of a sudden that somebody else was their soul mate.

Thsi realisation I feel is enough to change any person's life, at least internally, becos the external trappings will always have to stay in place if the persons involved are not ready to take the plunge.

The way that JW and Bani's characters have been shaped up, they may not leave everything and everybody for others, but we havent seen that side of them either. It could be a complete revealtion.

Sangi,

Read your pm and this is my response....😆. I knew your pet topic would send you into analyzation mode.

I agree with you in that such a realization (just the realization alone) is enough to turn one's world upside down. Secondly, I also endorse your statement about J&B when you say that we haven't seen "that" side of them either which could be a complete revealation.

P.S. I'm sure you know who I had in mind while penning this post!

Originally posted by: mk727272

Hey Rani,

A Very Interesting topic you have chosen.....

It has definitely struck a cord in me......

I like the What if scenario.......

It would have been interesting to see what would their reaction been if they had realized that they had some connection and yet could not be together.

If Jai Walia was married before the entry of Bani in his life....then probably KS would have taken another height or scenario.....and then neither Jai or Bani would have stepped out of their boundaries...Jai would have never stepped out of his commitment to his wife and Bani would have never acted on her feelings if she had one for Jai Walia.

Another interesting twist in the tale would have been, if Jai Walia would have widowed....if his wife died say during child birth and then circumstances led him to marry Bani....what would that relationship be like? It is definitely a thought that one can ponder upon?

Talking about soulmates...what is soulmate...is the meaning of soulmate does not automatically conclude that the heart has finally found someone that when the person is around physically or in thoughts...it just either begins to skip a beat or better yet looses self-control...because the heart always want the forbidden...what it cannot have....

But Jai-Bani were never soulmates to begin with...circumstances led them to each other and both battled enough thorns and ghosts to reach to each other...the understanding came first and love came later.

But now both have realized that they are made for each other and hopefully they should try to bridge that gap with time and not increase it....!!!!!

This is how I feel....!!!!!!


Keep Smiling,
Happiness Always,
Manish

Hi Manish,

Thank you for you input; however, while it was indeed a pleasure reading same, I do have to say that I disagree with you when you say that "Jai and Bani were never soulmates to begin with." It's one of those things where it is or it isn't. Circumstances can only set the stage.

Coming to your question of "what is a soulmate," since I don't have the ability to aptly express same, I will quote Nina's explanation which is as follows:

"The "love" that one has for a soulmate transcends anything physical or romantic love. It is something that will never subside whereas romantic / physical love attraction is here for one pal/moment and dissipates with time.

the love of a soulmate continues to grow with time until it becomes eternal !!!"

I would simply describe it as a spiritual connection that transcends any physical definition.