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Posted: 18 years ago
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Farah,

(Like I said yesterday, Maasi's reaction is not only for what JW has done, but what his father has done. )

So JW should pay for not only what he has done, but what his father has done. I hope Bani too should be made to pay for what her father has done.

(I know you will say that the ONS did not happen, but that is an assuption because of now not only has JW accepted the ONS happened, but accepted the child. He has proved himself guilty.)

Just as JW was guilty of Kiran's murder bcos he had admitted it himself.

Rgds,

Pri
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: majumdar

Farah,

(Like I said yesterday, Maasi's reaction is not only for what JW has done, but what his father has done. )

So JW should pay for not only what he has done, but what his father has done. I hope Bani too should be made to pay for what her father has done.

(I know you will say that the ONS did not happen, but that is an assuption because of now not only has JW accepted the ONS happened, but accepted the child. He has proved himself guilty.)

Just as JW was guilty of Kiran's murder bcos he had admitted it himself.

Rgds,

Pri



Completely agree Pri, so basically JW is paying for his own mistakes, his fathers mistakes, Kiran Dixits mistakes, Nishikant Dixit's mistakes, Pia Shukla's mistakes, and Bani Walia's mistakes (which to be fair, she is paying for too, to some extent).

i knew he was rich, but he's paying for too much dont you think...?
Edited by Cordelia - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cordelia



Nope, I expected her to have a little more faith in the son she supposedly doted on all her life. I expected her to once ask him for the truth.

firstly nice post guruji, took ur advice and saw the video first and am now commenting.

kind of agree with what u said above, she should have asked and her stance is indeed harsh, don't quiet agree with it, but i guess she was too shocked to realise what she was saying and its implications, all that mattered to her was that her so called son repeated the same mistake his father made years back for which her sister suffered and ultimately died of heartache, so in a way, u got to cut her some slack too. am sure she is gonna rethink very soon, afterall no mother gives up on their son that easily and aditya and dadi are also there na, maasi is sure to realise and look at the bigger picture.

It doesnt matter what his answer would have been, chances are he would have guiltily looked at the foor and not even tried to deny anything - but the issue is not his answer.

The issue is how hypocritical it is of her to curse and disown him without once thinking that she knows him better than that. The issue is how her feelings of mamta are as conveniently brought forth as Pia's feelings of sisterly concern.

well think of it from her point of view, she did not think her son was capable of that, she simply reacted to what she heard her own son accept with his own mouth, which shocked her, asking her to behave rationally under such circumstances is not possible. she felt let down by him and jai too did not think it necessary to give her any explanations, he should have done it irrespective of whether she wanted to hear anything or not, just standing there, staring at bani and looking downcast and behaving all guilty was not responsible on his part too, it works both ways.

i still do not agree with the shradh and mourning bit maasi came up with, totally uncalled for, but would still commend her for wanting to stand up for Bani rather than Jai, so we ought to give her credit for that. i know she could have handled the matter in a more mature matter, but i have seen the video for 4th and 5th twice, and her reaction is out of pure shock and disbelief at what she has heard, she is in a way reliving her sister's misery/memory and trying to maybe do what she could not at that point of time ............ i know i know, just my two bits, but still i think everybody is responsible for this catastrophe i.e. jai, bani and maasi herself ........... it all began with the divorce saga and ended with the ONS and all have played some part in this in some way or the other.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: sabsj

i still do not agree with the shradh and mourning bit maasi came up with, totally uncalled for, but would still commend her for wanting to stand up for Bani rather than Jai, so we ought to give her credit for that. i know she could have handled the matter in a more mature matter, but i have seen the video for 4th and 5th twice, and her reaction is out of pure shock and disbelief at what she has heard, she is in a way reliving her sister's misery/memory and trying to maybe do what she could not at that point of time ............ i know i know, just my two bits, but still i think everybody is responsible for this catastrophe i.e. jai, bani and maasi herself ........... it all began with the divorce saga and ended with the ONS and all have played some part in this in some way or the other.



Ha Sabsj,

wonderful to see you here, after such a long time!

"All have played some part in it, one way or the other"

Exactly, and that's why I can never side with just Jai or just Bani. Both made mistakes, both had good intentions, both love each other, both need each other.

I know Jai and Bani are not really the issue here, but your line inspired me to say this.

It is just sad, that Maasi's role has not developed into what we expected, of a true mother. Her character is victimized in order to let the story unfold as it did.

Had Maasi acted as a wise mother, there would have been no ONS, no pregnant Pia, no Jai thrown out and hence no leap.
I just wonder where the story could have gone, in that case and would we still have been interested? It might have become pretty dull....

Well, this was not really a contribution to the discussion, more a free flow of thoughts 😕😳
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Sabsj,

(jai too did not think it necessary to give her any explanations, he should have done it irrespective of whether she wanted to hear anything or not, just standing there, staring at bani and looking downcast and behaving all guilty was not responsible on his part too)

If someone is "guilty" and was being sentenced to death by his own Mom, he would be a little bit shaken up. Wouldn't behave very responsibly.

(but would still commend her for wanting to stand up for Bani rather than Jai)

Massi deserves kudos for that. Wish she had been as alive to JW's sufferings during the divorce-alimony fiasco.

(she is in a way reliving her sister's misery/memory)

What if Munna is innocent? Would she ever be able to face the said sister?

(i think everybody is responsible for this catastrophe i.e. jai, bani and maasi herself ...........)

And in spite of that Massi found it right to be judge, jury and executioner all in one.

Rgds,

Pri
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: maria-n



Ha Sabsj,

Hi Maria,

wonderful to see you here, after such a long time!

yes dear, had to come back ...... 😆

"All have played some part in it, one way or the other"

Exactly, and that's why I can never side with just Jai or just Bani. Both made mistakes, both had good intentions, both love each other, both need each other.

ditto ....... wish people would stop taking sides

I know Jai and Bani are not really the issue here, but your line inspired me to say this.

It is just sad, that Maasi's role has not developed into what we expected, of a true mother. Her character is victimized in order to let the story unfold as it did.

as have jw's and bani's characters been victimised time and again.

Had Maasi acted as a wise mother, there would have been no ONS, no pregnant Pia, no Jai thrown out and hence no leap.

well who is to say things would be different, it is just one point of view, what had to happen, happened ........ that's what counts, what's the point in blaming bani first and now masi for everything and anything that happens to the supposed bechara jai walia, sin't he man enough to be accountable for his own actions.

I just wonder where the story could have gone, in that case and would we still have been interested? It might have become pretty dull....

not really, there is lot that they could have done and still continued to hold our interest

Well, this was not really a contribution to the discussion, more a free flow of thoughts 😕😳

it was a pleasure dear, have really missed ur free flow of thoughts

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Sabsj,

( guess she would face munna in the same fashion as munna has faced bani everytime he has realised she is innocent and he had reprimanded and abused her for nothing.)

Has he ever sentenced Bani to death.

(well she was alive to jw's sufferings, in case u forgot she had asked bani to leave the walia mansion before jw stepped in and apologised on bani's behalf. )

Haven't forgotten anything. But yup, but when she did find out the truth, she kept her mouth mum.

(all i said was she was too shocked to have realised the aftermath of what she has said and done, )

Point well taken. If reports are to be believed she would have 3-5 years to realise the aftermath of what she has done.

Rgds,

Pri


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Posted: 18 years ago
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Sabsj,

(why hold only maasi accountable.)

JW and Bani have already been pilloried by their respective opponents, it was time Maasi too got a bit of medicine.

Rgds,

Pri
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: majumdar

Sabsj,

(why hold only maasi accountable.)

JW and Bani have already been pilloried by their respective opponents, it was time Maasi too got a bit of medicine.

Rgds,

Pri

sabsj/Pri - i read your debate with interest and you both have a fair point. JW did have to face Bani shamefacedly many times BUT, he never did something so horrible as perform her shraadh.

and to be fair, whatever Jai and Bani say to each other is one thing - but if someone you love as your mother says something like this to you then it hurts ten times more. and that too, when it is unjustified, or when you believed that koi aur na sahi, at least this one person might understand you!

since writing this topic post, I have calmed down and am more acceptable to the diea that whatever massi said was an instantaneous reaction that she could not really have meant, BUT that still doesnt make her innocent or her behaviour acceptable in my eyes.

however, it might be fun to see the torture and guilt she feels when she finds out what really happened. and the worst thing will be that JW hopefully wont be around to absolve her of her guilt. i really hope she suffers.

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: sabsj

how can u expect her to behave responsibly .... simply becoz she carries the title maasi.

if this is true then what gives her the right to act as judge and jury, head of the household, and pass sentence on him in the way that she did?

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