Has Jai Committed a Sin In Your Eyes?? - Page 3

i luv reading these discussions - then i get to see the point of view from both sides.. that's true.. wit bani's coldness towards him.. he thought had no "married life".. i wasn't talkin bout jai.. bani.. pia.. i was talkin bout alllllllllll d married men/women.. but wat u wrote MT... especially the endin - i agree.. its d fact that he chose PIA.. the women who left him at the mandap.. he went bac to that sorry.. good for nothing pia.. and i so hope ur right about this "But then on the other hand, it seems like a classic case of Getting Even and Out for Jai! 😈 " i wouldn't mind seeing pia.. fall flat on her face.. cuz its just heart breakin to see bani go thru the same pain again and again

wat's confusing me is why is bani sooooooooooo happy.. i mean she's a lil TOO happy compared to before.. is there somethin in d water in dubai.. or wat.. cuz she's too too happy.. of course its cuz she's thinkin all is well and good.. she doesn't have to lie/decieve jai anymore - no divorce.. so on.. and she keeps on bringing krishna up.. 🤔 🤔

Originally posted by: mahimn

Becky ,

I disagree with you a bit here.Jai has not committed a sin.I am a very religious person just like most of you but I think that the norms of relationship changes with time and so does the way we perceive the teachings of our religion.Every religion treats Male as a primary person and female as the secondary one in every relationship.Most of the religion allowed more than one marriage for males, and not so long ago divorce was not acceptable asper religion and society, right? So ,my views is Jai has not sinned but made a very huge mistake and the reason I am upset with his ONS with Pia is because he was not clear about his state of mind when he indulged in that act and their one mistake can destroy three lives at one go.If tomorrow Pia gets pregnant ,what happens then.He has not been loyal to Bani,agreed but, did he not signed the divorce papers before bedding Pia?

My view is no matter which path he chooses, whether to be with Bani or Pia ,he will not be fair to the one he leaves behind.
I hope ,I am not hurting anyone's feeling but this is my view

hmmm you do have a very good point and course your not hurting anyons feelings hun😆😆society itself over time changes the rules set by God to what suits them i am also religious however not a complete extremist or i wouldnt be watching this serial 😳 and i find that as time has progressed , religion holds less value for some and the morals and beliefs itself are changing with time.. i believe its belief and faith that is fading but if you have a strong faaith in your religion and its teachings you can avoid temptation..unfortunately for jai he could not avoid the temptress Pia😆😆yes your right relationships do change over time but most of the time its misunderstandings that cause rifts, i feel that jai before taking such a drastic step should atleast have confided in bani and asked her why their child passed away, because up until that point he trusted her after that he went a bit wild.......

Pia was married...as far as im concerned he still sinned because its classified as adultery even if one of them is married..he knew she was married, wether they were happy in their marriage is besides the point..i know in some religions multiple marriages are permitted, however as far as im aware the religion that KS is based on i think multiple marriages are not... regardless of what Jai thought Bani still saw him as her hubby...he has always seen her as his wife..Trust is one big factor he broke the vow when he married her.Those papers should have been given to bani not Pia..so are you saying his mistake/sin was less because he signed the papers first?

lastly Pia deserves to suffer all the way, its bani who doesnt..She has been hitting on her Jijuu ever since she moved back into their house, i mean why is she touching him?i dont see bani touching Ranveer?sahil?Pushy?It is valid that Pia always wanted jai and by jai taking her to Dubai just showed that maybe he may have always had feelings for her...

he did and he cheated bani which wasnt fair 😡

Hey Becky,

Great way to start a discussion!👏

In response to your question, the answers directly relates back to whether Jai and Pia went all the way or not. If they did not and Pia stopped at the kissology session, then I would say it's not a sin. But considering that they did go all the way, I would say that Jai definitely sinned.

A few months back during their marriage, they swore to each other that they would be together in their every phase of their life. Whether Jai-Bani loved each other or not, there still was a promise they made to one another. Jai broke all those 7 vows he made during his saat phere. And breaking those vows mean sinning.

So in my point of view, I definitely think Jai sinned!

My thoughts....

Cheers,

Anju

Originally posted by: mistletoe

Hi Becky,

Good Topic! I would like to sail against the Wind here and say that, NO, according to me, Jai has not sinned by sleeping with his sister-in-law! What Jai has done is a huge blunder, a big mistake and something extremely rash and stupid, but it is not a SIN, per se!

What marriage are we talking about? Jai might have broken his so-called Marraige vow by committing Adultery, but did he really have a Marriage? Till Bani told him the truth, all he knew was that his Wife not only hated him from morning to night-fall, but actually ended up killing his child and then claiming all his wealth.....His wife held back a huge truth from him, his wife refused to communicate or speak with him, his wife refused to forgive him for a mistake he made in his past, his wife refused to acknowledge his love, his committment and his dedication and sincerity to their marriage...She chose to crucify him for every possible non-existent reason on Earth! So, what marriage and what sin are we talking about???? What Jai and Bani shared was not a Marriage in any sense of the word! Bani might have loved him to death but her actions have always been otherwise...hence, when he decided to overstep the boundaries of his Marriage, he might have technically committed 'Adultery' but in no way was he 'Sinning.'

Jai would have sinned if he and Bani were in a normal and happy marriage...Jai would have sinned, if he knew fully well that his Wife loves him and trusts him...Jai would have sinned if he knew that their marriage means the whole world to Bani....Jai would have sinned if he knew how much Bani cared, loved, respected and cherished him! If Jai "Knew" all this and more and still gone ahead with Pia, then he would have been a Sinner in the eyes of God and in his own eyes! But the fact is that Jai was unaware of all this, courtesey Bani and hence, what he did was plain and simply adultery, which according to statistics is committed by 3 out of every 5 married Males across the Globe!

So what if he went ahead and slept with his sister-in-law? If Pia doesn't have any hassles of committing adultery with her much married Brother-in-law, then why should he share the burden of guilt alone? And why are we bashing Jai for going and sleeping with Pia....Does that mean, if Jai had gone and spent the night with any other woman, we would have forgiven him????? Why should Jai think of Pia as his wife's sister....When has Bani been a Wife to him?

The reason why most of us are so upset with Jai is not so much because he supposedly betrayed Bani, but more because he chose Pia of all the people to go and have a fling with...The same woman who walked out on him a few months back....But then on the other hand, it seems like a classic case of Getting Even and Out for Jai!

My two cents...

Cheers,

MT

Hiya MT...

woah you did your research 3 outta 5..shish thats bad.🤢

ok back to the point , why did you have to sail against the wind now ii have to try to bring your boat to my direction of thinking..😆😆.

Firstly Jai trusted bani from day one after she went a bit wild and tried to save his property, he still had trust in her all those months...so the problem lies in the fact that if he was a miserable man and showed he hated her and what he did was fair enough he had every right to stray, however he didnt he portrayed he loved and trusted her no matter what, but the day he was informed the baby passed away maussi specifically told him to trust Bani!! so why didnt he?how many times has he been lied to and instigated aginst bani but in the end SHE was always right!!!so why this time did he not go confront her?why did he not ask why she killed his child?why didi he not share the grief together?he always made a point of telling her that her eyes showed her honesty and integrity then why did he not question her?why did he not go and look in her eyes and see the grief she was feeling?She carried that child for four months..why an earth would she want to kill it theres no logic.The thing is if he had gone and confronted her the drastic step he took the SIN 😆😆would not have happened...

of course they had a marriage, i mean jai is an intelligent man no woman in their right mind would have done so much for him (before the property issue) unless she truly loved him..when her psycho sister ran away and left him she sat at the mandap to save his honour, to stop the world insulting him, she put up with his insults his abuse his disgust what not because she loved him she went through hell and back because of him ok fine she was mean to him for but he shhould have have had a teeny weeny bit of faith and trust in her just hung on a bit longer and confronted her to ask why that child was dead...why did he sign those divorce papers the day he was with Pia?why sign them and give them to her?why not have them couriered back to bani?why not ring tarun find out whats going on?why not take ranveer or Rano or Sahil to Dubai?why Pia becaus e i believe maybe he didnt really get over her?and the day she threw herself at him the lust took over the love he felt for Bani...or like many said maybe he didnt truly love Bani and just loved the kid he lost all trust and faith in her when their child passed away...

his Sin😆😆 was even worse when did the whole KC ritual for her and then bedded her too...see if he lost all faith in her and he felt she didnt love him and she came back and told him all this and your saying that they were divorced then why did he bed her as well?

Either way he SINNED😆😆bigggggggggg time!!!😈

OK the anger might be incy wincy less if he had chosen someone unmarried that could be classified as a one night stand...but he chose Pia a previous lover, the wife of a guy he sees as his son, the woman who is his wifes or his once wifes sister, the girl who ran out on him.a previous abortee..how could he forget she too killed a child..

he got lost in the moment does not justify his actions...

Bani did nothing but be a dutiful wife, yeh we didnt approve of the way she did things? but she no way deserves this, and now hes all mean and cold towards her why on earth did he bed her after bedding Pia?OMg it just occurred to me he sinned twice in the same night, Taubah 😈😆😆

in regards of her walking out i dont blame her, she just found out the guy who is her world took the person that gave birth to her out of the world plus she found out she was pregnant with his child she was all confused and shes only 20 or 23 she needed space.....

I am sorry but until he had talked to bani just once after the baby passed away and she rejected then i would have said ok he was lost and heartbroken....and i still say it takes two to tango but Pia is an immoral person and we all know that but Jai did the unimaginable and that to with a goldigga called Pia, an intelligent man like him would rather believ that Pia loved him than his own wife?wowi have no words to express how dissappointed i am in him well technically ekta...😉

lotsa love

becky

ps hope i didnt offend you in any way, and thank you for making me think

Originally posted by: mk727272

Hey Becky,

Good to see u back in business. Man, are u busy with giving us a new post everyday!!! 😉

I am just loving it seeing ur post everyday.

Jai Walia and alcohol do not go with each other.

My biggest bone of contention is that it does not matter whether he went with Pia all the way or not, but the moment he embraced Pia, it was a signal to her that he had reciprocated his feelings towards her.

The moment he embraced her, to me he crossed the very marital boundary which had binded Bani and him.
And whatever justification he gives cannot change the fact that he had a fling with Pia and god knows what consequences he may have to face because of this in the near future.

Jai Walia may have been intoxicated, but then he knew he was not in total command of himself. He should have walked away from Pia. But he did not.

Now, lets see, the future looks bleak for Jai Walia as the new promos suggest that Bani will find out the truth maybe on Monday or next week.

So,love to know ur comments Becky.

Happiness Always(c of Manish)
Manish

hey Manish

howz you?

see funnily i agree with everything you have said wow thats a first😈😈

I always thought jai knew how to carry his alcohol very well, so i dont know something tells me that he knew what he was doing, yes the alcohol got him drunk but if he had enough sense to insult Pia and Bani then he knew whos arms he was in..

i just think the fact he was unfaithful to her broke and ruined the whole essence of their relationship...so its time for her to break free and move on to pasteurs new...

its going to be heartbreaking watching her reaction

happiness always (c of Becky😡)

lotsa love

Becky

To put it in one word.

NOOOO!!!! (man i don't feel like typing my reasons may be at a later time)😃

Becky,

Yet again, thanks for the lovely , thought provoking post. 😊
Got me thinking as to what the word "Sin" word actually conveys..

Sin , as defined by the dictionary is any act that is against the will of god - Theologists..

But we mortals, humans, how do we decide what is the will of God, for we are not gods and god particularly didnt sermon us about it.. did he? We only assume then , what is possibly the will of God..

Well that said, considering the fact, that I do not the will of god, and believing that Sin is too strong a word, I shall say this that Jai has , as per the norms created by the society and that which we follow, and the principles we are fed in school of life, has indeed committed a mistake , a terrible mistake, that would define the further the course of his life... as in his relation with his wife..

My thoughts..

Sareeta
😊

Hi Becky,

This seemed as a pretty interesting topic and thought I'll add in my two cents. I personally feel Jai did not sin and completely agree to what MT said. A lot of us believe he should have pushed Pia away the way he pushed Roshni away on that fateful night. However we tend to forget the circumstances in both the situations were very different. That time even though he was unsure about where is marriage was going, he knew what his duties and responsibilities as a married man was and he was willing to give it a chance, because somewhere deep inside he knew both Bani and he shared a deeper relationship and he had at least something to look forward to.

In the Pia instance, if you notice carefully, he tried resisting her, he even told her he wanted to be left alone and that she should attend the party alone. His resolve broke when he got a call from the lawyer saying Pushkar had gone to him and that Bani wanted a divorce asap. Since he loves Bani soo much he could not bear the thought of seeing her with a different man and this emotional setback added to all the other setbacks he had experienced in the recent past. For an outsider or stranger it is very easy to analyse and say what the other person should do or shouldn't do, however the one who goes through the worst phase of his or her life, he or she thinks at a completely different level. Most of us snap when things get really tough, we will never lose our control if things are fine with us, only when we hit rock bottom, do our weaknesses come out.

And the same applies to Jai Walia, he couldn't believe and understand where the hell he went wrong that the one person he who cared for so much as also left him and gone. And the point that maasi did try telling him, Bani is not bad, he may have just taken it as a consolation. When we have a bad fight with someone we love, 9 out of 10 times we feel that person has betrayed or hurt us, it's human tendency and at that point we will not be open to any suggestions because we feel we know the best and that the other person wouldn't understand what we are going through. The same applied to Jai Walia, he wouldn't have believed anything anyone said for Bani, because whenever he confronted Bani, he saw a different side and that would install a doubt in his mind.

With Pia he did tried to push her away, but beyond a point he couldn't do it because he found himself to be absolutely helpless and weak. As he said in yesterday's episode, it is very natural to cling to any kind of support you get at this time. For him everything was over as the so called realisation that Bani did not love him, but Pushkar was literally eating him up from inside...I know the counter argument is you don't go and sleep with the wife's sister to get emotional support? To be honest, I even agree he shouldn't have slept with Pia, but when one is not in the right frame of mind, one tends to do things, one may regret later...We all know Jai was not in his right state of mind at all, in fact in such a case the responsibility goes to the other person who is there with him to make sure things don't go out of hand. Pia was sober and neither did she suffer an emotional traumatic experience that had ripped her apart. For her things were going okay because she insisted on taking a divorce from Pushkar and was happy living this life. Ideally it should have been her to make sure Jai sleeps alone in his bed and not with her...Ideally she has not yet got a divorce, whereas for Jai the breaking point was when he signed the divorce paper. I feel both Jai and Pia committed adultery and Pia should he blamed more, cuz despite being sober she kept on falling all over him. Imagine what would have happened to Jai if she was drunk...😆

After this long, long analysis, I seriously feel in today's world where people commit adultery despite having a happy and a smooth married life, I really don't feel Jai has committed a sin. Mistake yes, sin definitely no!!!

no he hasnt because he dint know the truth about bani... soooooooooo he hasnt...

but its good that he feels guilty
But its wrong... that he carried on with what bani did to him that night... he should have stopped her... even if he cudnt tell her what he did with pia...

poor boy

my opinion... bani should find out and help him through it and its about time pia stop thinking about herself and walk away from thier life

RAdha