Quiting is NOT the answer - Page 21

Originally posted by: Minnie

Pmtwist,do you actually

a) doubt the ability of the mods,or

Yes, in a certain way because only when we( other memebers ) decided to quit the forum if Monika and khoo were not back was this issue brought up in open. Just as some moderator in the post said that only when it oculd not be handled it was brought to the moderators notice.

b) are you simply trying to vent out frustrations or

Yes again, this is my family and i have every right to discuss if something is wrong. I will accpet my mistakes openly if someone corrects me.

c)are you trying to needle us by implying that somehow we are escaping from our responsibility........or

No, but would just like an explaination.

d) Is it a deliberate attempt to cause a fight and add fuel to the fire,or

Is there a need ? Fire is already up in flames. No need to cause a deliberate fire. Also i have been a member here for almost months and anyone in the forum who is a regular member can vouch that I never take last stands...I am a very happy go lucky person and would never cause fights, infact would always try to solve them. But this matter is just out of hands of many now !

e) is it just a curious question..........

Its a question whose answer is almost awaited by most of us here

See how many different ways a simple sentence can be seen as?? And how different people can react to this,depending upon the mood they are in......

Why I said this is that sometimes what is simply a harmless fun for you can look to me as something rude and needling.......

I might never know what the truth is, but will react to it my way,and you in your own way,Khoo in her way.....Monica in her way........and everyone else in their way......so lets not be judgemental whenever we come across something we don't like.......

Originally posted by: monika.goel

hey we never said that we are leaving our KS parivaar but ya we wont be able to take the responsility of a viewbiee of Ks for sure-

we are here at our ks parivaar and will be there but as a regualr member,not as viewbiees'.

A very huge Thank You to you Monika, and Khoo for returning.

I remember you had said this earlier, but some members didnt read that perhaps.

Part of Dev. Team or not, all I ask is that you guys be with us as long as the forum runs.

So I hope that you all are able to work this out where the two of you, and everyone involved ends up feeling comfortable..

This forum was/will never be the same without the two of you.

All of our view points are but opinions. It is you who knows what you feel like. There are hardly any situations in life when what is right for one isnt wrong or at least skewed for the other.

Leaving the forum, the like said, and many others, was never the solution. Like someone said, there is always a solution to every problem.

I cannot express HOW happy I am that all of you are back, with a single post from you guys. Thanksssssssssssssssssssssssssssss soooo much!

Luv, Jojo

Originally posted by: **Tinkerbell**

Minnie dont get me wrong, its supposed to be all our KS paarivar, it seems you tried to resolve it privately but it didnt work..because monika and khoo are very reserved members..what happens behind closed doors never is brought out publically. But for them to bring out the situation publically allows all the members to give/state an opinion.

Wirtten by Sree: See, this is pathetic that this is being done out of doors... This does not speak hih of anyone, not them, not we.... We tried our level best to talk to them thro PMs, but it is sad that they did not want to take tat route...

Secondly it seems we are beating around the same bush the mods are giving the same reasonings over and oer again, i am yet to see a solution to the problem?Monika and Khoo have expressed how they feel and where they stand so now its your turn to either give them a solution or infact deny them a solution so the matter can resolve itself or progress further,

Wiritten by Sree: Yes, we are certainly beatin around the bush... Yes, we are givin the same resonins again and again, bcos ofr one issue, there can be only one reasoning given by a person.. If a person starts to give umpteen number of reasonings, then he/she is contradicting himself/herself, also it means that the person has not understood the issue at all... Yes, the solution is written on the walls...

The AF thread is not a chat thread. If hew members have been rude in the past, this is not a matter to be carried forward for life.... We need to move on, we need to live our lives, we need to allow others too to live...

regards

Becky

Originally posted by: sree

well no one is really stopping anyone lead their lives. whether someone in the forum is rude or not would be understood only by people who live in the forum and i am sorry those people are not the moderators around here. Many of us have actually seen what happens in the thread and on....I need not be more open here.....

Originally posted by: **Tinkerbell**

Not at all,you dont sound stupid...

firstly its a non paid job members who are viebies put their time and effort into managing a section, making sure no spamming occurs and that rules are followed but overall making it a happy place to be in.

in return what can we give them? Respect!!is that alot?yes i guess for some it is

Can you tell me a person who is paid here? Please, do tell me... We too demand the same respect , or atleast gratitude from the Viewbies, are we asking for much here?????

Originally posted by: jaysp

Good to see open discussion from Khoo & Monika & IF dev. team.
Just a question - maybe out of context here but what is a viewbie? Is it a paid job ?
I am probably sounding really stupid but had to ask.

I wish it was !!It's not a stupid question at all.......

No one in the dev team gets paid anything.In light of that,yes,it does hurt when we hear unkind words. Sometimes it seems so much easier to say - hey what the hell,let it be......but then,we remember why we are here-it's because we love IF.

Most of us have now been here for almost 48 hours round the clock, and heck we are not even KS fans.....somehow it does seem difficult to explain why are we doing so much effort for a section we don't even visit most of the time and are not even connected to.............when I slogged over the Jassi forum, I thought I did because I loved Jassi....but then I found myself doing the same for sections I don't even know exists till the problem crops up.....and then I spend countless hours.......and it happened with one or the other section every other day.........what can I expect when it's a forum of 200 sections,with members from all walks of life.......so I concluded I do what I do for the plain simple reason that I love it,and though I expect some respect and appreciation, I don't take it for granted......because I have several other members who are on the same platform as me.....😊

Originally posted by: pmtwist

well no one is really stopping anyone lead their lives. whether someone in the forum is rude or not would be understood only by people who live in the forum and i am sorry those people are not the moderators around here. Many of us have actually seen what happens in the thread and on....I need not be more open here.....

We handle umpteen number of problems ranging from small to big everyday in IF... Can you tell me how many of such issues has been brought to the knowledge of all members of a section.? Can you tell us? But the main thing is, we have solved it, from behind.... Now, this is what we said, when we said, Things could have been talked and told outside the section too.... You say, only people in the forum understand problems, so do you mean to say, right, but when things are out of control, we need to be approached... Isnt it?

Originally posted by: Minnie

I wish it was !!It's not a stupid question at all.......

No one in the dev team gets paid anything.In light of that,yes,it does hurt when we hear unkind words. Sometimes it seems so much easier to say - hey what the hell,let it be......but then,we remember why we are here-it's because we love IF.

Most of us have now been here for almost 48 hours round the clock, and heck we are not even KS fans.....somehow it does seem difficult to explain why are we doing so much effort for a section we don't even visit most of the time and are not even connected to.............when I slogged over the Jassi forum, I thought I did because I loved Jassi....but then I found myself doing the same for sections I don't even know exists till the problem crops up.....and then I spend countless hours.......and it happened with one or the other section every other day.........what can I expect when it's a forum of 200 sections,with members from all walks of life.......so I concluded I do what I do for the plain simple reason that I love it,and though I expect some respect and appreciation, I don't take it for granted......because I have several other members who are on the same platform as me.....😊

To be frank now that you say we know that you do not get money. I was sure about viewbies. anyways as you say, your work is appreicated. Just as i appreciate Monika and Khoo for their job, i bow down to the work that you also do. I would never doubt it on you moderators. Your work and the will to get this resolved is highly appreciated. I just hope we all find a solution and we all are happy !!