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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: aditee

This message is intended for all those who have PMed me wanting us to be back on this thread, robustly discussing the show on a daily basis.

Many of you in your PMs have showered me and the AF with compliments saying things like "I only watch the show if u review it as "good""

"Your reviews are the most honest and real", "you say it like it is" etc.

THANKS!!

Based on Mr Kapoor's post today I get the feeling that he does appreciate dissenting opinion, so I am going to let this post ride on that message, and pray that it does not get shot down by the Mods.


When an actor himself approves/agrees to play the part of a adulterous/incestuous/infidel husband for "TRP REASONS" then there is NO room left for intelligent audience to be watching such a show.

Maybe its a new definition of marriage according to Mr Kapoor and Ms.Ekta, where "consummation with sister-in-law" is considered a definition of "love for wife".
I unfortunately DO NOT endorse that point of view.

Unfortunately, I am also having to draw parallels to real life, I put myself in Bani's place (I am married and have two sisters), and JW's actions are unpardonable!

I am not able to appreciate/sympathize/justify/approve glorify an infidel husband's character who also happens to be concealing facts from his wife.

Its virtually impossible for me to deduce that JW committed incest and is later concealing the truth about it becoz "HE LOVES HIS WIFE",............ how ever great my math skills are! 😕
It just defies all published theories of science and math!


This JW is NOWHERE close to the one I fell in love with on May 31st.

I have little adulation and respect for the character and for the actor behind it right now.

My sanity and analysis skills are better utilized elsewhere at this point

Thank you all!!

A

P.S. Until the fantasy JW lives in my mind the FF shall continue..........

I have been posting similar thoughts on other threads. Iknow he was driven up the wall... but does that mean he beds the first person that offers him a shoulder??? THAT IS NOT the JW that the serial began with.

All these serials have made a mockery of the institution of marriage!!!

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Posted: 18 years ago
On target Adi...

The erstwhile charismatic JW .....RIP,not only did he doublefault,he double-crosses by dissimulation.

While RK may have his own compulsions to follows his producer's lead without any compunctions, have to confess reading his stated rationale my esteem for the person has taken a knock, for the actor yet soaring.

CAT
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: aditee

When an actor himself approves/agrees to play the part of a adulterous/incestuous/infidel husband for "TRP REASONS" then there is NO room left for intelligent audience to be watching such a show.

Maybe its a new definition of marriage according to Mr Kapoor and Ms.Ekta, where "consummation with sister-in-law" is considered a definition of "love for wife".
I unfortunately DO NOT endorse that point of view.

Unfortunately, I am also having to draw parallels to real life, I put myself in Bani's place (I am married and have two sisters), and JW's actions are unpardonable!

I am not able to appreciate/sympathize/justify/approve glorify an infidel husband's character who also happens to be concealing facts from his wife.

Its virtually impossible for me to deduce that JW committed incest and is later concealing the truth about it becoz "HE LOVES HIS WIFE",............ how ever great my math skills are! 😕
It just defies all published theories of science and math!


This JW is NOWHERE close to the one I fell in love with

I have little adulation and respect for the character and for the actor behind it right now.

My sanity and analysis skills are better utilized elsewhere at this point

Thank you all!!

A

P.S. Until the fantasy JW lives in my mind the FF shall continue..........

I completely agree with u adi.But why very few handful of us r feeling very bad about these things?Ohters r justifying it.Maybe something is really wrong with us.😒
Why we r taking it to our hearts?'Ekta's serial's '😡my sister has adviced me long ago!

This was the first Mai serial for many of us ( maybe the last for some).Ekta kept on telling that 'KS' is different.Then we kept the faith on the actors.
Finally we got a 💔

I got a tight slap when read the actor breathed a sigh of relif on jumping TRP because they showed a 'C- scene between 'Jija- Sali'.🤢This is not the man I loved as RK.I believed he is different from other tele actors.😭
I understand his professional commitment but the way he has stated in the post, we can clearly see his joy for rising TRP.
I m feeling proud & lucky for myself that though I travel by Borivli superfast & BEST buses, 😉I still have faith & values in morality .I would never feel happy if I will do anything against my heart & mind.

Thanks adi & others to make believe, on my trust on some values ( so called Indian culture) that our ancestors left for us to take care of.😳😭

OMG!I have talked too much.
Edited by saniya9919 - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
The end of the Awesome Foursome silently and painfully brought about by those who were the very reason for its existence?
If the members lose their wish, nothing can be done to prevent it.

I salute you, dear four and all those others.

In respect of your opinions

Thanking for a handful of interesting months


Love, Maria



deeply hoping that this is not the end after all.....
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Posted: 18 years ago
Adi all I can say is that I was so disgusted with KS wala JW that I wanted to ask you to change his name in your FF!!!!!.

You know how much I wait for and love what you write, yet I could not bring myself to read the last four parts you posted. So the loss was mine either which way I looked!! 😭

Over the last few days I have decided that you have made JW "RISE" in love and Kekta KS has made JW "FALL" in love so why should I punish myself and your writing by missing out on the awesome parts that you have posted (read some of the reviews --- adaat se majboor!!!!!)

So from tomorrow its back to reading your FF. Can't still bring myself to watch KS!!!!

Love
Shilpa

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Posted: 18 years ago
I havent been posting since I realized that we have lost the JW we used to talk about for hours on this very same thread so basically theres nothing left to talk about but I really coudnt resist after reading Mr. Ram's brave post...
I noticed how he clearly stated that TRPs mattered more to him even if it means corrupting the loving and respectable relationship between a jija n saali or a husband and wife for that matter.. so why the futile attempt to make us feel important in his decision makings?? But ofcourse like saniya said a very few handful of us feel this way so Mr. Ram neednt worry cuz the majority is with him (the High TRPs prove so).

What JW did was wrong! No matter how drunk or emotionally devastated you are it is not ok to sleep around! What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others!

Sahar

P.S These are my personal opinions...Mods if you find this post offensive I would appreciate it if you would take it up with me..it has nothing to do with the AF or this thread.


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Posted: 18 years ago
Hi All
It is our mistake that we are feeling betrayed. It was Ekta's show afterall...how did we forget that she is the queen of portraying "corrupt" relationships. As someone stated a few days ago that the "Credit for moral bankruptcy" all goes to Ekta. I feel sorry for RK...we had put him on such a high podium...we thought that he is different...but alas...he is also an employee of Ekta afterall...how could he go against her....
Why is it so difficult to understand for these serial makers that a story can be interesting and can have all sorts of twists and turns withought having these kind of immoral incidents. The relation of a Jija - sali is almost like a big brother and a little sister ( at least thats what I have )......it is indeed disgusting to see it this way...but again...its is Ekta show.....I guess it was expected....
Aditee - we live for your FF now and Your FF ONLY !!!

Thanks

Neena
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Posted: 18 years ago
Thought instead of the customary detailed review, I'd just put down some of my thoughts about sec 43. Thanx Adi, for continuing to satiate our appetite for more.

ND is a loser, he is a weakling who latches onto anybody as long as they are more potent than he is …earlier his own daughter and now a stranger who claims that he is to be married to this daughter. How swiftly he accepts JW as the godsend, ministering angel who would provide deliverance from all his adversities.

That was very penetrating inclusion about B perceptions bout being replaced by JW as the "son' of the house. This is something a female with all female siblings could easily identify with .

P & B react so differently to the same situation…..once again a very ably presented the contraposition of the two.

B as been the backbone of her family for ever so long , poor kid, that now she merits the overpowering JW to take charge and pull the strings, hers & her family's (in the most non offensive, non MCP sense). JW to woo her, to bring her fantasies to life, to sweep her off her feet.

Masi is quite the quintessential matriarch, lovable characterization.

The "welcome encounter" b/w J&B , B opening the door….. a teaser of times to come!!!

The karwa chaut bit……just went thru ur first ff edi bout the first post marriage KC…both instances underlying acceptance shrouded by overt reluctance.

The cadence of bedroom choreography & screenplay delightfully topnotch……the frame by frame just glides by and has that uncontrived feel bout it…. a revelation maybe of what will make this alliance tick (or not). Loved the silences & their loaded jousting.

CAT


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Posted: 18 years ago
Er.....am i missing something?
The TRP's after the first week of Oct, when we were all glued to the screen in the hopes that somehow at the last minute JP consumation would not happen, have actually been falling!
KS was at no.9 the week after and then picked up only till no.7.
so, ultimately they fell and they lost out one loyal, legion of fans who were well on their way to immortalising and making KS one of the most beloved shows on telly.
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Posted: 18 years ago
PART 44
FLASHBACK 19

A week after KC, the entire media was aware of one of Mumbai's most eligible good-looking bachelors, planning to tie the knot soon there was a general atmosphere of

mourning in the cocktail circuit "another one bites the dust" they said, JW unfazed by all the negative publicity at his decision went about his daily biz meetings and getting

work accomplished.
Walia Mansion had already taken on the look of a house where a wedding was slated to happen, people had started visiting, the phone was ringing off the hook, Jigs had cut

short her "poker party"on KC nite to return home on Maasi's insistence only to find what the cat had dragged home..........Bhaiya announcing that he was planning to marry

"trailer trash". Hugely disappointing for her! She had already spoken with multitude of her poker friends, all wives, sisters of noted industrialists in town, offering their

daughters nieces and in some cases even themselves if Jigs would allow it. All those plans had come to a grinding halt. She could either look forward to a edding or start

plotting for a divorce, but now is not the time, her teenage daughter Anu was obviously overjoyed, her son Sahil nowhere to be seen, the ex-hubby Aditya was acting like he

hadnt heard of such good news all his life.

The overdose of sweetness gave her a migraine and she "retired hurt" early, not before noticing Maasi giving meaningful looks to her would be bahu. "I'll deal with YOU later"

she thot, disgustedly looking at that 20 something girl, her brother for some reason was acting strange, was not taking his eyes off her, "Is this my Jai Bhaiyya?" What in

the world has happened to HIM?" she wondered.................. The girl? The hug was all she could take in that nite from her she reeked of some middle class perfume, surely

some Indian brand ! ............., "where do I even begin with Bhayya? his choice, the girl's lack of fashion sense, she must have been too busy trying to ace her what ever

exams......... where were her glasses?, all those books all those lectures, didnt reward her with a pair? Maybe its in her knockoff purse?"..............
she pondered............. for now she was going to disappear.............. rest would have to wait until "Bina" was a permanent fixture in this house, may be I cud turn her into a

fixture?...................


B had not called him neither had he, after dropping her off on KC nite past midnite,
B had talked Rano into speaking to her college about taking a transfer to Mumbai after the first semseter was over. Her credits were transferable acc to her college Prof. She

was working toward a biz degree just like Bani had, Bani got a feeling that rano admired her skills and natural intelligence.......... Ranow as visiting for the weekend, Bani

had gone to get her from teh train station, she was very excited to visit Mumbai for the first time. Their Papa had not accompanied, he sounded hurried and excited on the

phone all the time these days, it was as if he had suddenly stumbled upon a fortune and didnt have a clue what to do about it. Bani kept her convos with him to the

minimum. she didnt want to hear about or know of any "plans" Papa had made that involved JW. She didnt particularly care for his sister, the fact that it was making JW

more protective towards her was making Bani hate Jigs more. "Why does he think I need protection?" "He needs to mind his own biz".....................

Rano and her were on a shopping trip cum "check out Max Meuller Bhawan (MMB)" trip, to review the courses in German (Thanks Sow). they got off at the Churchgate

station and walked by the teeming footpath filled with hawkers selling every imaginable book on the planet, most looked like they were pirated, the nes that were not were

used :-) Streling Book house across the street from Kala Ghoda was too expensive for B and Rano, she let Rano buy some of her fave ones, while B checked out some US

GAAP publications....... and some paperback novels.......... Janet Dailey was her favorite, "I have to save enuf money to go live in a ranch in the US mid west sometime in

life, may be I will find a rancher like she describes in her books?" A smile escaped B's lips, Rano became all curious, wanted to know if it was Mr Walia she was thinking abt, the book slipped out of her hand when she heard that name 😳 ........... color rushing, she shut her eyes for a second shaking her head from side to side" Mmmm... mmm" she said.

Rano wanted to know what the famous Jehangir Art Gallery was all about, B loved being the "Mumbai expert" albeit her limited experience of two plus yrs in the city, they

went in, enjoyed the air conditioning to the fullest............ B's white cotton capris and purple sleeveless blouse that had almost soaked, drying up again............ her hair tied

thankfully, wisps escaping on the side................ no make up........... her first pair of Nikes on her feet, "The shoes make me look rich" she thot... smiled again.........

Walked over to MMB next, to check out the courses............. Rano looked like she was going to die of happiness and shock at actually being inside where she had only dreamed of a few months ago..........

the classes were usually held on the 2nd floor. On the grnd floor there was a gallery were they had exhibitions etc. they rented it out for such events. first floor had a library which used to be converted into an audi for movie screenings etc.
The rooms are named after German cities: Hamburg, Berlin(the biggest room), Dresden (one of the smaller ones).
there is a small sitting area for students to interact during breaks-but only in german .

The offices of the director and the secretary were also on the same floor.
A counter next to the sitting area served as the registration /information desk.

Every course if taken intensive (3hr each day, 5 days a week) took abt 3 mths for completion. Courses could be completed in around 9 months................only weekend

classes were also being offered, Bani steered Rano twrds those, she didnt want Rano travelling all by herself, she had told Mr Walia she wud be spending herw eekends at

her apartment so she could take Rano then................. Mr Walia had looked amused when she she had demanded that, but Bani was sure she didnt want to spend a

minute more than necessary with the man in their marriage.........................

Rano picked the........Zentrale Mittelstufe Prfung(ZMP):-Central test/exam for middle level.
after M3. intermediate level following the ZD. Quite a toughie she said but she wanted to go for that............ Forms filled payments made with her credit card, ID would be

made the day classes started.................
Both were hungry when they left MMB, headed towards what looked like a sandwich place, across the street at the corner, adjacent to Fabindia, there was even a

sugarcane vendor by the sandwich guy.............. B had a couple and Rano had no room for the second, B was still thirsty for their favorite "family drink" ganna juice, she

didnt have change all the money sh had in loose change spent on sandwiches and the train fare, she had a Rs.100, the ganna waala ready to send the bill thru the

crusher.........
B: Ek minute bhayya, abhi change lekar aati hoon, Aap isko pilao......... (pointing to Rano)
R: Didi aap kahan ja rahi hain?
B: Abhi ruk jao Rano, change lekar aati hoon sandwich waale se........

Walks humming a happy tune, "Its all going to be OK, the three of us are going to be in Mumbai now, living together" her thots come to a screeching halt when she hears

her mind say "live together"......... "I dont care for him, I am going to make every effort to spend every spare minute with my sisters"

Walks right into someone on the overcrowded sidewalk
B: Dekhkar chaliye na? (annoyed)
JW: Thats what I was doing Baneee!! (holding on to her waist)
B: Aaap? Aaap? Yahan kya, how did YOU get here? (shuts her eyes opens a couple of times)
JW: Its not a dream !! Did u wish for me in ur dreams?
B: Let me go!! (squirms out of his hold, he lets her go, dressed in blue jeans and white Polo tee, unbuttoned, a lil sweaty, she can see the sweat beads on his sideburns)
JW: its hot!! (smiles)
B: Go away! Rano ke juice ke liye change lene ja rahi hoon (waves the bill angrily at him, trying to walk past him, he just starts sprinting after her)
JW: mujhse le lo, kitne doon?
B: I dont want your money!!
The sandwich guy refuses to give her any, she walks back dejected, he follows closely, Rano almost spits out her juice on seeing him, he smiles warmly,
B: Bhayya main kahin aur pata karke aati hoon
JW: kitne hue ? (curt, authoritative)
Juicewalla: Rs.15
JW gives him a 20 rupee bill
JW: Change rehne do!
B: Mujhe peena hai
JW gives her a disgusted look
JW: not here Bani!! Lets go!

Rano is looking at their exchange totally stupefied
B: Mujhe peena hai
JW: Not HERE!!
B: rano ne piya then why cant I?
JW: Coz u are a a fool, kaun peeta hai (hisses thru his teeth so as to not let the juice wala hear) YAHAN?
B: aap jaayiye
JW: Bani Darshan is here chalo!
B: No!
She sulks!
He smiles at rano, she is nervous, he opens the door for her, traffic is backing up honking................
JW: Banee lets go! (softly, in her ear almost kissing it)
B: NO! (whispers in rage)
JW: Baneee! Dekho traffic....... I promise, we'll turn around and come back for it
Pushes her gently towards the car, onlookers are amused, want to know why a rich guy is wooing a middle class type into his Merc
He gives the passers by a dirty look and gets in..... slams the door.
Rano looking away too embarrassed to even look atwhat Dee and Jeeja are talking abt.....


JW: We need to make rules about fighting! We cant do this after we are married! I will get the most traffic tkts at this rate! (in her ear...... softly making her cringe first and

blush next)


Edited by aditee - 18 years ago

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