Jai is worse than Pia and Pushkar - Q & A

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Just a flitting thought...don't you think that what Jai is doing is a hundred times worse than what Pia and Pushkar did to him?

All said and done, we would agree that Pia walking out on Jai and Pushkar back-stabbing him was not pre-planned or meditated, but more of a spur of the moment reaction, for which they regretted also! Agreed that Pia and Pushkar are very selfish and self-centred when it comes to their happiness, but who is not? Is Jai not selfish when it comes to his happiness, I personally feel that Jai is the most selfish and self-possessed when it comes to the question of emotions and feelings....he gives only when he knows that he will get something in return! Then what right does he have to cry foul over Pia and Pushkar's actions....simply because they made a public fool out of him or because his heart was really broken? Jai seriously needs to prioritize his thoughts....

And then Pia and Pushkar are so young and immature and whatever they did, was ultimately because they were so madly in love....as Bani puts it so beautifully that "Pia nein galti nahin ki, usne pyaar kiya hai..."

But do you think what Jai is doing is justified? He is deliberately and systematically breaking Bani's heart....I don't agree to the notion that he has no clue of what is going on in Bani's mind.

And the whole irony of the situation is that Jai himself is falling in love with Bani and that feeling of attraction coupled with disgust over his emotions is driving him to do things that are actually antithetical to his basic character! If Jai was not in love with Bani, he would just ignore her or be completley indifferent towards her....remember the old saying, "We always hurt those, whom we love the most..."

The reason why he is playing with Bani's emotions are because he knows that she likes him, if not loves him and she has begun to care for him very deeply!

The easiest target are always the one who are nearest to your heart, someone whom you know would not be able to retaliate, simply because they care for you too much....and Jai knows by now that Bani cares a hell lot for him!

What right does Jai have to cry wolf over Pia and Pushkar's actions, when he himself is being a beast to Bani? Agreed, that he is under a lot of pressure coupled with misunderstandings and bitterness towards Bani, but does that still blind his vision from seeing Bani's affection and caring towards him? How can Jai not see that Bani is always there for him when he needs her, without him even asking for her...she is there to give him her shoudler to cry on, bear the brunt of his frustration, become the target of his unnecessary anger and hatred.....Jai cannot be blind to all this...unless he has decided to close his eyes to her!

I always supported Jai's actions against Pia, Pushkar and even Bani till he was justified in them...but now he is being plain nasty! He has completely side-stepped the original sinners and is now taking his fury on someone who is totally helpless against him....and not just physically helpless, but emotionally also!

Sad to say so, but I think that Jai is worse than Pia and Pushkar when it comes to emotions....what they did was still based on the love they had for one another, but what Jai is doing has its base on nothing except hatred!

Jai, you better buck up your act! Remember.....God gives us a chance to love just a couple of times in life...and you seem to have run over all your chances....don't let this one slip out of your hands!

So, my questions to you are;

Do you still think that Jai's actions are still justified as he has gone through a very rough emotional patch and he needs to vent it out on the first available person (Bani) till he comes back to normal?

Bani is investing too much of herself in Jai, much more than she did for Pushkar and for her sisters also! Do you think that she is in for a massive heart-break from which she might just never recover or will fate intervene and Jai will realize what is about to lose at the nick of the moment?

Do you think that whatever Jai is doing to Bani is a deliberate, well thought off, manipulated game of revenge and not an impulsive reaction on his part?

Do you think that Jai might just take the Shirt back from Tony and wear it one fine day to surprise Bani? (Wishful thinking....)

Is Jai as hurt when he hurts Bani, or does he really pleasure up with the thought of seeing Bani in tears and with a dejected heart?

Do you think that Jai will go through a complete emotional breakdown the day he comes to know how unfair he has been to Bani? Or will he just be his normal self and apologize to her infront of everyone and tell her to forgive and forget?

Do you think that Bani will ever be able to forget the hurt that Jai is making her go through? Do you think that Bani will forgive Jai for everthing but still opt to move out of his life when Mausi has gone and wait for Jai to win her heart back from scratch?

Would be awaiting your answers...

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
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What Jai really needs right now is 440 ka jhatka to bring him back to his senses. What he did today was really really mean. Yes he is confused and has gone through a emotional turmoil and he had pledged that he will make Bani pay for it. And that's what he has been doing methodically.

But I am sure he is aware that Bani cares for him and he does misses her(remember the night dress searching scene) but his way of keeping a distance with Bani is way too nasty.
Bani is so besotted with him that she keeps taking the crap from him. Earlier it was out of understanding and now out of love. She really needs to stand up against Jai and that itself will teach him a lesson.

😆 Jai taking the shirt back from Tony now that is a hilarious idea. I cannot imagine Jai doing that. 😆 😆 . I don't think he will get the shirt back. Its gone for good now. 😭 Poor Bani.

What is the point of hurting someone and getting yourself hurt in the process. That is just plain weird thinking. Jai has become a pshyco.
But being a emotional guy he will have a breakdown. Atleast that's what they should show for all the hurt that he has caused Bani. Even that won't be enough to make up for all this nastiness towards Bani.

Bani should just walk out on him now masi or no masi. today was just the pits. But she will not. 😕

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Posted: 19 years ago
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😆 I like the idea of Jai taking back the shirt from Tony...can only imagine what Tony's expression woudl be... 😆

But Jai being Jai is capable of just about anything....poor Bani, she looked so happy when she saw the Shirt in his Suitcase....and then the same eyes had tears when Jai gave the shirt to Tony... 😡

I wish Bani compliments Tony when he wears the Shirt and tells him that no one else could look so handsome in this shirt as you look Tony.... 😆

That should put Jai in his proper place!

Love,

MT

PS: Hey, lovely answer the questions yaar...I posted it now because I know the US guys come on to IF at this time! 😃
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I don't think that you can compare Jai's doings to Bani with Pia and Pushkar's deceit to Jai. Everyone feels pain at a different level and it seems Jai is hurt deep down emotionaly and his ego is completely shattered by Pia leaving him on W-day. His revenge will be bigger then his ego..

You are right MT that the one who cares for you deeply is the easiest target and Jai is as hurt when he hurts Bani, and he also gets the pleasure of taking a revenge by seeing Bani in tears. I don't think Pia means much to him at this point..

I think Jai's personality will make a complete 180 degree turn when he realises his love and need for Bani. Bani can endure the heartbreak but Jai will have to win her back. and yeah one of the things he might do to bring back smile on Bani's face is wear that white shirt!!!! 😆

Bani will not hold anything against Jai as she knows how deeply he is hurt by Pia.

Everything is fair game in Love and war...

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Do you still think that Jai's actions are still justified as he has gone through a very rough emotional patch and he needs to vent it out on the first available person (Bani) till he comes back to normal?
Though i do agree that jai has gone through turbulent times but I think that there needs to be a limit for everything. Whatever he did today was ....(I don't have words to describe it)

Bani is investing too much of herself in Jai, much more than she did for Pushkar and for her sisters also! Do you think that she is in for a massive heart-break from which she might just never recover or will fate intervene and Jai will realize what is about to lose at the nick of the moment?
Things will reach such a state that bani is going to react badly and may just leave. That is when stupid Jai will realize what he is about to lose.

Do you think that whatever Jai is doing to Bani is a deliberate, well thought off, manipulated game of revenge and not an impulsive reaction on his part?
In fact as MT has rightly pointed out, Jai knows that the primary reason he allowed to make bani stay was to torture Bani so that he can get back at Pia. He seems to derive a sadistic pleasure in humiliating Bani. At the same time I also feel that he kind of realizes that he himself is kind of getting attracted to Bani. Rather he can feel that he seems to have some feelings so is not able to put a name to it. Hence he is trying to build a wall around himself by humiliating Bani.

Do you think that Jai might just take the Shirt back from Tony and wear it one fine day to surprise Bani? (Wishful thinking....)
Rather he might buy a new shirt of the same color and wear it some day. say the day he is going to formally declare his love to her. (sometimes I feel that Bani should reject him once and cuddles should really spend some time in convincing her !! will serve him right)

Is Jai as hurt when he hurts Bani, or does he really pleasure up with the thought of seeing Bani in tears and with a dejected heart?
Though I did not want to defend Jai still I feel that somewhere he might feel a bit dejected.

Do you think that Jai will go through a complete emotional breakdown the day he comes to know how unfair he has been to Bani? Or will he just be his normal self and apologize to her infront of everyone and tell her to forgive and forget?
Jai is going to feel real bad. But I don't think that he is going to apologoze in front of everyone and all. Maybe confess to maasi may be.

Do you think that Bani will ever be able to forget the hurt that Jai is making her go through? Do you think that Bani will forgive Jai for everthing but still opt to move out of his life when Mausi has gone and wait for Jai to win her heart back from scratch?
Its not easy to forgive a person like Jai. But then Bani being Bani and as she is so much in love with Jai it might be difficult but not impossible to forgive Jai. I still maintain that she will not go out of his life. Rather be cold to him. and yes Jai better do everything possible to win Bani's heart.

btw on 2nd thoughts I think that whatever Jai did was not a calculated move. When he saw that he has been caught with the shirt he had this idiotic brainwave to gift the shirt to tony (also he saw Bani satified with herself). Jai wud have suddenly remembered that he needs to take revenge from bani. In fact his expressions looked like even though you helped me it does not mean that I have forgiven you for whatever ur sis has done. but I still don't understand how could he have had the heart to break bani's heart. She looked so radiant.

I liked the scene where Rano asks bani abt her trip and Bani remembers all the Jai shouting incidents.

But yes am really angry with Jai 😡 for whatever he did and for leaving Bani all alone in the mall and spending time laughing with Roshni. He really did not look angry with Roshni at that time.

am seeing the repeat telecast now and once again saw the 'gift' scene. grrrrr.... 😡


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Posted: 19 years ago
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hi MT. i m giving the ans. of your questions. but please don't compare jai with pia and pushkar. there is no comparission between them. jai is far too better than the back stabbers. 😡

1. jai's behaviour wasn't good at all when he gave shirt to tony. i thinks its not his fault. there must be something which hunt him with the entry of roshani. he hasn't come out of the past emotional break down yet and here is roshani whereever he and bani goes, she disturb them. so but natural anger will throw on your near ones. at first thought we didn't like his behaviour but with positive note he dont' want to keep anythings with them
(him and bani) on which roshani comment.

2. he will realise his love for bani. not he will, he already realise this as he knows what bani is doing for him but he is just maintaining distance from her. i think with the returning home, he reminds of bani's leaving house with masi. as i said in one of my post, he always hide his true feeling and thats why people misunderstood him. here he is not been able to tell bani about his situation and feelings which gives bani a lot of pain. so sad for both of them.

3. jai is not that kind of a man. he know bani is innocent. its not his game or deliberate action or manipulation or revenge. if he wanted to do revenge, on pia or pushkar, he would have done earlier. as he has all the power to do it. if u say he is taking revenge througn bani i don't think so. see jai is not a insensitive person. rather he is over sensitive. unfortunate part for him is he don't get the time to come over from one by one shock. latest shock is bigger than pia n pushkar's. he respect the feelings of bani. have you ever feel tht jai was gaining happiness by hurting bani? have we saw such an expression on his face?my ans.is no. on the contrary he feel bad for her. so how can he deliberately do such a thing with bani. its nothing but a impulsive reaction on his part.

4. on the contrary he will take bani to buy a new shirt of her choice and tht time no entry for unwanted people. no need to mension. 😉

5. he equally hurt when he hurt bani. becoz he really cares for her. but can't help in the hands of nature.

6. i think he already is passing through with the thought of bani's leaving house. but again as i said he is hidding his feeling. if bani will not leave the house, he will definetely apologise to bani for his misbehaviour by wooing her. 😊

7. see bani is a kind of person who never remember a bad things in her mind for so long. bani is in love with jai. also she knows jai is not bad as human being. on the contrary she respect jai a lot. she knows what jem of person is jai. at the same time she knows that circumstances has changed him. she feels jai's pain and anger. if she reminds all the misbehaviour of jai, then why she let develope a feeling of love for jai in her? so she will forgive jai. ya to make him realise his love for her, bani play a game by leaving walia house with masi so jai will run after her to bring her back as his luvy duvy adorable wife. 😉
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Posted: 19 years ago
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First of all MT how do you put up your thoughts so nicely yaar. I can never manage to do that.

Ok I will answer your questions though I have partly answered already.

Do you still think that Jai's actions are still justified as he has gone through a very rough emotional patch and he needs to vent it out on the first available person (Bani) till he comes back to normal?

No today Jai's actions are totally unjustified. It was way beyond meaness. It was cruel. Yes he is trying to hurt Bani but everything has a limit and today's was just the pits.

Bani is investing too much of herself in Jai, much more than she did for Pushkar and for her sisters also! Do you think that she is in for a massive heart-break from which she might just never recover or will fate intervene and Jai will realize what is about to lose at the nick of the moment?

I will not say she is investing too much of herself in Jai. Bani by nature is like that only. Caring, nuturing comes to her naturally and that's what she is doing for Jai too. The downfall of it is she has gone ahead and fallen in love with him which is only going to give her heartache till Jai realises her true worth and what she really means to him. And Jai being the egoistic jerk will not realise it till she leaves him. Personally I think she should just leave him and that will teach him a lesson.

Do you think that whatever Jai is doing to Bani is a deliberate, well thought off, manipulated game of revenge and not an impulsive reaction on his part?

Yes initially the sight of Bani use to trigger an revenge attack and hence the insults but that kind of subsided due to living together and he did see her caring for him. But what he did today was deliberate. Like you have said he is falling in love with her, getting attracted to her and he knows it very well. So this deliberate humiliation is an act of self defense, self denial for him. He is making his own life miserable by doing this becoz one day Bani is going to leave him and that's when he will realise her true worth.

Do you think that Jai might just take the Shirt back from Tony and wear it one fine day to surprise Bani? (Wishful thinking....)

😆 MT you are too much yaar. Just imagine Jai ordering Tony to give his shirt back. Just like a kid asking another to give his toy back as he has changed his mind about sharing it. 😆 No like I said earlier the shirt is gone for good now. But just imagine that if Bani does ever find the guts to compliment Tony on that shirt Jai will definately be very amused and he would know that she is giving him a fitting reply. I don't think he will be upset.

Is Jai as hurt when he hurts Bani, or does he really pleasure up with the thought of seeing Bani in tears and with a dejected heart?

I will not say he gets hurt when he hurts Bani after what he did today. But yes he knows that he is completely wrong and does feel guilty. There is a difference in feeling guilty and feeling hurt. But now that he is getting attracted to her, getting used to her presence in his life, he is disturbed and confused. Being an introvert he will not express his feelings to anyone especially Bani. Becoz if he softens upto her he is setting himself up for being vulnerable once again. And after what he has gone through he does not want it to happen again. Hence the facade of revenge.

Do you think that Jai will go through a complete emotional breakdown the day he comes to know how unfair he has been to Bani? Or will he just be his normal self and apologize to her infront of everyone and tell her to forgive and forget?

Oh he already knows he is unfair to her right from the beginning. That's the reason he said it would have been better if you were not Pia's sister. Personally I think he will just apologize in front of the family but later when Bani is about to leave, that's when he will have the emotional heart-to-heart talk with Bani. He will be ready to face any saaza from Bani. And Bani being the lovely wife will definately not give him any saaza. 😉 and he knows that. But this would be a wonderful scene to watch.

Do you think that Bani will ever be able to forget the hurt that Jai is making her go through? Do you think that Bani will forgive Jai for everthing but still opt to move out of his life when Mausi has gone and wait for Jai to win her heart back from scratch?

Yes she will forgive him and according to the promise will leave the mansion. And I want her to leave ASAP. Unless and until that happens, bewakoof Jai ke bheje mein koi baat nahi jayegi. Like I said he needs a 440 volts ka jhatka.

Hope that answers all your questions MT. 😊

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Okay first a quick response to what you wrote:

I totally agree with you MT; even this thought came to my mind about jai, but then I never wanted to express it!

Pia and Pushy are of course immature of their age and at a young age they have gone through a lot. Pia and Pushy did what they had to, but jai is not looking at the point that they were in love. Yes, pia and pushy were selfish, but in what age they are going through, love is just blind, and it makes you do anything and everything. They are even regretting what they did to Jai, and even besides what pushy did to jai, he still gave a nice speech on the podium about him during the new deal they made with roshni's company.

Jai has become so flustered and not caring that he is making bani pay for their mistakes! Sometimes when I look at pia-pushy, and what they did, I don't even call it a mistake because they were just meant to end up together and if the method was wrong, then jai shouldn't blame bani for this.

Jai is nothing like bani because bani sacrificed every happiness of her for her loved-ones and that includes jai also. If he hurts bani so much, then why is he always feeling culpable about it? Comes to think about it, bani is used to jai taunting her and his resentment towards her, which is actually not at all bitterness! Jai is just trying to control his emotions that are building up for bani, and that's why he always hurts her, but he himself knows that even though he antagonizes bani, she will not pity her self or breakdown because bani is a very strong person.

Sometimes I think that jai might be testing her patience so he can know that if she's willing to stay with him for ever. Because if bani rebels and leaves the house then jai can say that bani was not the one he was looking for either.

Jai is certainly acting selfish sometimes. I was wondering why in the first place he tried on the shirt, if he was to give the shirt to tony. I guess he saw bani smiling because he bought the shirt, but he couldn't just tolerate to see her happy so he gave that shirt to tony, just to make himself a happy man by looking at bani's distress.

Jai has far more to learn, and when it comes to emotions and he only think about his pain, his broken heart, and his agony. Which means, he only and only thinks about himself and not the ones he is hurting.

okay this is just my thought MT!! will be back for answering your questions!! love ~~khoo~~😉

Edited by khoo - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

Just a flitting thought...don't you think that what Jai is doing is a hundred times worse than what Pia and Pushkar did to him?

All said and done, we would agree that Pia walking out on Jai and Pushkar back-stabbing him was not pre-planned or meditated, but more of a spur of the moment reaction, for which they regretted also! Agreed that Pia and Pushkar are very selfish and self-centred when it comes to their happiness, but who is not? Is Jai not selfish when it comes to his happiness, I personally feel that Jai is the most selfish and self-possessed when it comes to the question of emotions and feelings....he gives only when he knows that he will get something in return! Then what right does he have to cry foul over Pia and Pushkar's actions....simply because they made a public fool out of him or because his heart was really broken? Jai seriously needs to prioritize his thoughts....

And then Pia and Pushkar are so young and immature and whatever they did, was ultimately because they were so madly in love....as Bani puts it so beautifully that "Pia nein galti nahin ki, usne pyaar kiya hai..."

But do you think what Jai is doing is justified? He is deliberately and systematically breaking Bani's heart....I don't agree to the notion that he has no clue of what is going on in Bani's mind.

And the whole irony of the situation is that Jai himself is falling in love with Bani and that feeling of attraction coupled with disgust over his emotions is driving him to do things that are actually antithetical to his basic character! If Jai was not in love with Bani, he would just ignore her or be completley indifferent towards her....remember the old saying, "We always hurt those, whom we love the most..."

The reason why he is playing with Bani's emotions are because he knows that she likes him, if not loves him and she has begun to care for him very deeply!

The easiest target are always the one who are nearest to your heart, someone whom you know would not be able to retaliate, simply because they care for you too much....and Jai knows by now that Bani cares a hell lot for him!

What right does Jai have to cry wolf over Pia and Pushkar's actions, when he himself is being a beast to Bani? Agreed, that he is under a lot of pressure coupled with misunderstandings and bitterness towards Bani, but does that still blind his vision from seeing Bani's affection and caring towards him? How can Jai not see that Bani is always there for him when he needs her, without him even asking for her...she is there to give him her shoudler to cry on, bear the brunt of his frustration, become the target of his unnecessary anger and hatred.....Jai cannot be blind to all this...unless he has decided to close his eyes to her!

I always supported Jai's actions against Pia, Pushkar and even Bani till he was justified in them...but now he is being plain nasty! He has completely side-stepped the original sinners and is now taking his fury on someone who is totally helpless against him....and not just physically helpless, but emotionally also!

Sad to say so, but I think that Jai is worse than Pia and Pushkar when it comes to emotions....what they did was still based on the love they had for one another, but what Jai is doing has its base on nothing except hatred!

Jai, you better buck up your act! Remember.....God gives us a chance to love just a couple of times in life...and you seem to have run over all your chances....don't let this one slip out of your hands!

So, my questions to you are;

Do you still think that Jai's actions are still justified as he has gone through a very rough emotional patch and he needs to vent it out on the first available person (Bani) till he comes back to normal?

Bani is investing too much of herself in Jai, much more than she did for Pushkar and for her sisters also! Do you think that she is in for a massive heart-break from which she might just never recover or will fate intervene and Jai will realize what is about to lose at the nick of the moment?

Do you think that whatever Jai is doing to Bani is a deliberate, well thought off, manipulated game of revenge and not an impulsive reaction on his part?

Do you think that Jai might just take the Shirt back from Tony and wear it one fine day to surprise Bani? (Wishful thinking....)

Is Jai as hurt when he hurts Bani, or does he really pleasure up with the thought of seeing Bani in tears and with a dejected heart?

Do you think that Jai will go through a complete emotional breakdown the day he comes to know how unfair he has been to Bani? Or will he just be his normal self and apologize to her infront of everyone and tell her to forgive and forget?

Do you think that Bani will ever be able to forget the hurt that Jai is making her go through? Do you think that Bani will forgive Jai for everthing but still opt to move out of his life when Mausi has gone and wait for Jai to win her heart back from scratch?

Would be awaiting your answers...

MT

I totally disagree. I THINK ALL OF JAI'S ACTIONS ARE JUSTIFIED WHEN CONCERNING PIA/PUSHKAR/BANI SITUATION AND OTHER SITUATIONS TOO. the way i see it yes pia/pushkar are young but once you TELL someone that you're going to marry them you either go through with it and if you dont want to then YOU TELL THEM BEFORE THE DAY OF MARRIAGE. that's why i'm so pissed at pia still. i still think they were more selfish than jai. pushkar knew the situation and he even told pia he wouldnt run away with her since he cared for jai blah blah then why still did he run away? CUZ HE WAS OBSESSED THAT HE WOULD LOSE SUCH A BEAUTY THAT'S WHY. he couldnt bare seeing her with jai or anyone so he runs away with her. it's more than just backstabbing! and well look at them now it's not even like pia/pushkar are happy anyway. nothing satisfies pia except money and people standing up for her no matter how wrong she is and well she wouldve been better off with jai in that sense. and well it's kind of like pushkar abandoned bani too leaving her alone to face jai! I HOPE JAI NEVER FORGIVES PIA/PUSHKAR BUT I DEFINTELY THINK PIA WILL BE BACK IN HIS LIFE. and as far as bani is concerned yes she'll forgive jai for treating her the way he did - there's no doubt about it.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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I know jai gave the shirt to Tony ... out of spite .. But could it be he gave it to Tony to iron it so he can wear it .. later onwards ... ( i havent seen the episode and the update didnt say .. if jai told tony its a Gift for him or what )
Jai is Not atleast this year going to confess his love for Bani ... Infact ... the game has just begun ... maybe .. diwali or new years kekta might give us that happy news .

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