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Posted: 9 years ago
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I think you are very much correct.. And this letter should be addressed to niti madam as well.. After parth went and when she blamed she played this victim card. And she doesn't even want parth back.. But again she played MaNan card claiming it was parths mistake and she has nothing to do with it. But why should she say she would leave the show if parth comes back again... Both these two think they are big stars when these two are zero in my eyes now.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti

I cant help but compare the situation in KY2 with IPKKND. Like in this show, there too the hugely popular male lead wanted to quit at the peak of the show when he got a movie offer. The PH managed to convince him to stay back, agreeing to give him a long vacation when he could shoot for the movie and return to the show when he was done. The rest of the cast and crew, particularly the female lead, had to take on a disproportionate workload.



The hero returned only to put in his papers a couple of months later but the channel convinced him to stay on for their own selfish gains (as they had an overseas event where his presence was paramount given his huge fan following). He did oblige but quit finally. The PH tried to continue the show with a new male lead but the channel shut the show down at the behest of the fans. The film for which the male lead quit managed to see the light of the day after two years and went down in a whimper.



Throughout the ordeal of the hero quitting/not quitting drama, the cast was with him. No one begrudged his ambition to move on to something bigger. Although the female lead was upset at the untimely closure of the show, she did not hold it against the male lead. Apart from the fact that the female lead was quite mature, I think the reason why the hero still managed to be in the good books of the cast, crew, PH and the channel was because of the cordial relations he maintained with all of them. He had an excellent rapport with all his co-stars and had no airs or attitude on the sets.




In fact, the entire team worked as one big happy family, so much so that after three years they got back recently for a short sequel of the show. The sequel was mostly shot with the hero in practically every frame. Now that is the tribute the hero and the rest of the cast paid to the fans who gave them so much love.


Sigh... wish our lead pair had such offscreen chemistry, understanding and respect for each other which could have helped them ride storms which weren't entirely their own making.

opti exactly.. That's Sanaya and barun.. They were mature and Sanaya won't show faces even if didn't like barun quiting neither barun had bad ego that everyone and everything back fired... I really now feel that these two niti and parth as immature and egoistic.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#33
We don't know the whole scenario here. Sometimes people around you just choke you and you feel that it is better to leave and do something else. I am software engg and I have seen personality clashes at work in subtle way among ppl but that usually happens when there are 2 aggressive, strong headed ppl working together. It is difficult to deal with them but then there comes the role of manager how he manages such ppl. But yeah it is nothing new, have seen ppl changing teams or changing jobs coz they dont get along or they don't like the kind of work they are doing. I still feel TV industry should learn that if some one wants to leave just don't make a big deal out of it. Shows should be with finite series and there should be more season oriented.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: aina123

We don't know the whole scenario here. Sometimes people around you just choke you and you feel that it is better to leave and do something else. I am software engg and I have seen personality clashes at work in subtle way among ppl but that usually happens when there are 2 aggressive, strong headed ppl working together. It is difficult to deal with them but then there comes the role of manager how he manages such ppl. But yeah it is nothing new, have seen ppl changing teams or changing jobs coz they dont get along or they don't like the kind of work they are doing. I still feel TV industry should learn that if some one wants to leave just don't make a big deal out of it. Shows should be with finite series and there should be more season oriented.

you are right. We don't know what have had happenee between them and the whole KYY Team. To be honest I don't like Niti and I never did, but regarding this, I can't blame her nor I can blame Parth .. as said, I do 't know anything. But seeing the offscreen news&interviews etc, I must say Parth and Niti both are at fault. Both their attitude is ruling them. And I am sure after working few days with them people won't like to work with them any more coz of their attitude. It will ruin everything. But as I said before, that's their own problem if they want their attitude to rule them.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mishaarshi


One of the reasons his costar not cooperating during manan scenes was she thought she was leading the show in his absence. Had this scenario been in a corporate world i wud totally support niti but fact is nandini's character was being ruined to establish other newbies. Yet she failed to realize nd was kind of in a delusion that she was leading the show.



On what basis you are making this observation? She had less screen space in season 2 than in season 1. So how can she be leading the show? Yes, her character was getting ruined and she may have failed to realise that going by her recent defence of Karishma but I dont think she was deluding herself or others that she was leading the show.


Parth, in his conversation with VG, mentioned about the drama she created about leaving the show and not leading the show. She seemed pissed off that the prodigal actor managed to return to the show with his pride intact and new assignments with the channel to boot, while she had earlier been subjected to bashing for continuing to stick to the show even after the male lead quit. I also felt that although the trend was for Manan HEA, the hash tag 'MTVbringbackParth' gave the impression that the trending was for Parth only, an impression shared by the actor himself when he mentioned about it.



To me it appeared as though she was trying to prove a point that if she did not co-operate with her lead, Manan scenes will fall flat, no matter how hard Parth tries to hold it together. It takes two to tango and Parth alone is not the reason Manan were a hit with the fans. Her indifference seemed to aim not only at Parth but also at the fans. I could be wrong in this but that is how it appeared to me. Then again she could just be an immature girl who could not separate her professional and personal equations with her co-actor after a certain point of saturation. Granted that her behaviour wasn't professional but she let external factors influence her performance - not a sign of a good actor.



To her credit, though, she did try to redeem herself when fans pointed out how they were seeing more of Niti rather than Nandini but I guess the girl has a tendency to slip in and out of her character, a fact she herself has acknowledged in several interviews. The directors kept her in check in season 1 but the new director/CV weren't capable of proper guidance/control and it showed.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mishaarshi

Hey...s2 team and creatives r more in need of this introspection than parth. From audi clip it is clear they were playing revenge games rather using their brains on work nd to prove their mettle.

If im not wrong even during s1 parth rarely faltered nd dat happened during march fusion track epis when he was contemplating on quitting. But aftr he decided to stay back he was back into form. In s2 he was giving his possible best with then current team nw if his costar nd team weren't cooperating then one cannot solely call out him on his professionalism.
One of the reasons his costar not cooperating during manan scenes was she thought she was leading the show in his absence. Had this scenario been in a corporate world i wud totally support niti but fact is nandini's character was being ruined to establish other newbies. Yet she failed to realize nd was kind of in a delusion that she was leading the show.


parth didn't mention about leading the show,he mention about the drama she created abt leaving the show if he comesback. Anyway it was immature of her to take that stride.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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My intention was never to make this post a Parth vs Niti one or a who is right, who is wrong one. That's why I addressed only Parth in my post. But, as usual, it ended up being Parth and Niti 😆 Ha Ha!

I think, even when they r not working together, they are destined to be together ! Ha ha ( I meant this as a joke only! Please don't bash me now)

You all r right, both have their own share of mistakes that have contributed to this situation. Why I only spoke about Parth was, he always comes across as someone who is very very ambitious and serious about improving himself. Niti, though may be ambitious, seems a little laid back about it and believes in taking life as it comes.

So again, I want to clarify - this is not a Parth vs Niti post
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Posted: 9 years ago
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When you take sns drama so seriously and trending too and screw up your professional work , well then that says alot. With that the rest of the cast should just use this excuse to explain their bad acting because the 3 other girls were/are dissed all the time . So did the other guys if they do anything to PaNi/MaNan .
Also, I am sure they knew always that the show became all about MaNan ,should we hand over the pass to the other actors for their bad acting too, thinking that they probably are pissed that the show has shifted it's arc to MaNan.


Again it is a perception and differs from one person to another. What was essential to remember that in S1 , fandom slated the guy always , mostly for his off-screen antics, IVs and what not but that rarely showed on screen.His personal friendships were also mocked around pretty badly but never did it translate on-screen. in S1, Nandini/Niti was universally praised , at times on his expense because of the narrative given to us through perceptions. So wait you drain out the goodwill earned in S1 for what some sns drama? Heck in S1, fans ALWAYS made excuses for Niti and championed her cause. Yet that doesn't mean we will/should overlook her flaws and her part in this circus

What about her own behaviour on sns then if we make it all about trending?
Her excuse that audience didn't support S2 disappoints me. When you turn in a half-baked product, bad execution- how can so many flaws are all brushed under the carpet by blaming the "trend" ?

Yes, Parth did his bit in S1 end when he decided to quit/whatever narrative is there


I can quote scenes and sequences where he dropped the ball acting wise and she too in S1 .But S1 overall leaves an impression because they always recovered well, the team including PaNi had a sense of integrity and they always let their work talk.

But what I noticed with her was , the moment S2 started , she was off her game and how. It doesn't matter how much screen-time she got in S2 but how her performance was ,even when trending has just started be mindblowing

. I would quote her word stating that she enjoyed the working atmosphere more in S2, again stark contrast in her ability to translate the good vibe of sets on her performance . Such contradiction- S1 (she apparently wasn't appreciated enough but had tremendous fan support) vs ( good working environment, appreciation from CH, fans trending for her co-star).

RY is loved by the fans -never saw actors/BBC/Mtv appreciate her the way they did for Karishma. I don't even remember them writing her a note after her exit- the irony of this validation, is weird. Yet she is loved because of her work- that is our association and will always be. Karishma would be remembered for her work in S2, not what she did for her actors off-screen.


If after all this while these actors don't understand that majorly this fanbase compose of "MaNan" fans-together, not in isolation.

A viewer watches the show with his/her bias. Heck, I am sure she was aware of it in S1. But somehow somewhere she just couldn't understand what was happening on-screen and her own character self.

Last weeks of S1 were mess, with no RY and backstage mess showed again- Parth, PH and Mtv were/should be blamed for it. But the buck must stop at Mtv/PH because it is their job to iron out contracts/writing mess/figure out S2 etc. They never bothered and let the show be driven by the mood swings of it's immature cast. How does Kish is retained for S2 and then shipped to Big Boss? Where is the contract now?

But S2 was off on many levels , even with his return they barely managed to churn out something which shows it wasn't just about his exit/trending/return but the inability of the CH to understand the show/story and mediocre technical team backing there.


Also , I would say , I have lost faith in their words on sns or otherwise , these kids are clueless immature brats who never really address the reality. What they say in ivs/sns be so silly, as we can now see. If for them their work friendships be more important than the characters they play, then our perceptions differ about the word - *Professional*.

So I would judge them on their work on-screen.
Sadly Niti just gave up on the show the moment S2 started and well rarely recovered from it. She wasn;t bothered about her screentime/character but was happy because the CH paid attention to her or "appreciated" her. But to me as a viewer it seemed Nandini was sidelined, made into a blank post and hence I feel disappointed that even the actor who played Nandini couldn't see or feel what went wrong there.


So basically an actor's work is correlation of what happens on a sns site? Then perhaps they all need to introspect themselves deeply if they need validation for their work like that and if it influences their way of working.

Word on the tape- Meh, I don't trust whatever VG digs up. Wonder how many editing cuts went into that ..or he has to be dense to think that would win him legal cases.

Yet in the end, PH and Mtv are to be blamed majorly for this mess. They couldn't handle transitions at back-office and allowed their actors to be themselves than the characters they were suppose to play.




Edited by charminggenie - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: charminggenie

When you take sns drama so seriously and trending too and screw up your professional work , well then that says alot. With that the rest of the cast should just use this excuse to explain their bad acting because the 3 other girls were/are dissed all the time . So did the other guys if they do anything to PaNi/MaNan .

Also, I am sure they knew always that the show became all about MaNan ,should we hand over the pass to the other actors for their bad acting too, thinking that they probably are pissed that the show has shifted it's arc to MaNan.


Again it is a perception and differs from one person to another. What was essential to remember that in S1 , fandom slated the guy always , mostly for his off-screen antics, IVs and what not but that rarely showed on screen.His personal friendships were also mocked around pretty badly but never did it translate on-screen. in S1, Nandini/Niti was universally praised , at times on his expense because of the narrative given to us through perceptions. So wait you drain out the goodwill earned in S1 for what some sns drama? Heck in S1, fans ALWAYS made excuses for Niti and championed her cause. Yet that doesn't mean we will/should overlook her flaws and her part in this circus

What about her own behaviour on sns then if we make it all about trending?
Her excuse that audience didn't support S2 disappoints me. When you turn in a half-baked product, bad execution- how can so many flaws are all brushed under the carpet by blaming the "trend" ?

Yes, Parth did his bit in S1 end when he decided to quit/whatever narrative is there


I can quote scenes and sequences where he dropped the ball acting wise and she too in S1 .But S1 overall leaves an impression because they always recovered well, the team including PaNi had a sense of integrity and they always let their work talk.

But what I noticed with her was , the moment S2 started , she was off her game and how. It doesn't matter how much screen-time she got in S2 but how her performance was ,even when trending has just started be mindblowing

. I would quote her word stating that she enjoyed the working atmosphere more in S2, again stark contrast in her ability to translate the good vibe of sets on her performance . Such contradiction- S1 (she apparently wasn't appreciated enough but had tremendous fan support) vs ( good working environment, appreciation from CH, fans trending for her co-star).

RY is loved by the fans -never saw actors/BBC/Mtv appreciate her the way they did for Karishma. I don't even remember them writing her a note after her exit- the irony of this validation, is weird. Yet she is loved because of her work- that is our association and will always be. Karishma would be remembered for her work in S2, not what she did for her actors off-screen.


If after all this while these actors don't understand that majorly this fanbase compose of "MaNan" fans-together, not in isolation.

A viewer watches the show with his/her bias. Heck, I am sure she was aware of it in S1. But somehow somewhere she just couldn't understand what was happening on-screen and her own character self.

Last weeks of S1 were mess, with no RY and backstage mess showed again- Parth, PH and Mtv were/should be blamed for it. But the buck must stop at Mtv/PH because it is their job to iron out contracts/writing mess/figure out S2 etc. They never bothered and let the show be driven by the mood swings of it's immature cast. How does Kish is retained for S2 and then shipped to Big Boss? Where is the contract now?

But S2 was off on many levels , even with his return they barely managed to churn out something which shows it wasn't just about his exit/trending/return but the inability of the CH to understand the show/story and mediocre technical team backing there.


Also , I would say , I have lost faith in their words on sns or otherwise , these kids are clueless immature brats who never really address the reality. What they say in ivs/sns be so silly, as we can now see. If for them their work friendships be more important than the characters they play, then our perceptions differ about the word - *Professional*.

So I would judge them on their work on-screen.
Sadly Niti just gave up on the show the moment S2 started and well rarely recovered from it. She wasn;t bothered about her screentime/character but was happy because the CH paid attention to her or "appreciated" her. But to me as a viewer it seemed Nandini was sidelined, made into a blank post and hence I feel disappointed that even the actor who played Nandini couldn't see or feel what went wrong there.


So basically an actor's work is correlation of what happens on a sns site? Then perhaps they all need to introspect themselves deeply if they need validation for their work like that and if it influences their way of working.

Word on the tape- Meh, I don't trust whatever VG digs up. Wonder how many editing cuts went into that ..or he has to be dense to think that would win him legal cases.

Yet in the end, PH and Mtv are to be blamed majorly for this mess. They couldn't handle transitions at back-office and allowed their actors to be themselves than the characters they were suppose to play.






Spoke my mind.

It is actually pitiable that these actors have forgotten or don't realize that the only reason anyone has bothered supporting them or commenting on them for so long is for MaNan...

Parth was mocked left right and center in season 1 for everything, every immaturity of his was promptly called out and he hardly got a free pass. Fact remains though that that didn't reflect on his work much...he was off sometimes but generally he nailed his work...and Niti was always appreciated for being the consummate professional and doing her job regardless of what else was going on...she was HAILED for it...she was a hero in many ways.

And it's just so unfortunate that she's sold out on all that goodwill that was hard earned...you don't get opportunities like that in life again and again...did a petty ego battle with your colleague matter more than all the goodwill you had earned with the audience which is your ultimate client? Apparently it did for Niti.


And so very true about the Trending becoming an excuse too. Heck I myself resented the trending tamasha but the way Niti behaved in response cannot be justified either. The girl utterly destroyed the very goodwill she had herself built. She forgot that all that goodwill came from the sincerity she showed towards MaNan and no one is her mommy-daddy sitting here to mollycoddle her on SNS...she lost the plot, both on and offscreen...


No one cares what they do in real life, all that was asked was that they give their sincerity to MaNan...how can Niti justify season 2 in any form is beyond me. The content was beyond laughable. If this girl hadn't already lived MaNan in season 1, I could still get her enthusiasm for randomness...but she actually had done great content and then to be reduced to what she was...it's one thing to make the most of what you get, it's another thing to BLINDLY defend it...and she still continues to do that till this day almost like she's ENJOYING twisting some knife in the hearts of MaNan fans...It is one thing to have your own personal equations...everyone is welcome to that...it's another thing to totally lose sight of what your audience has loved you for and disrespecting the very job, the very set of emotions that helped your career.


She didn't owe the audience anything other than doing her job well...and she failed on that point in season 2...so sorry but that's not professionalism...and to make it worse, she failed on integrity as well because she made it about personal equations more than professional output.


And no, she doesn't get a free pass simply with the excuse of "Parth did xyz in season 1"...is Parth going to decide her career or her own work will? What nonsense. If she is actually going to let that dictate how she does her job, then ho gaya kalyaan career ka. The best "revenge" if that is what she wanted in this case would have been to do such a KICK ASS job that people would be FORCED to hail her work...instead she let Parth walk away with the appreciation for the only one doing his job sincerely in the season 2 mess.






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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: xfiles

My intention was never to make this post a Parth vs Niti one or a who is right, who is wrong one. That's why I addressed only Parth in my post. But, as usual, it ended up being Parth and Niti 😆 Ha Ha!

I think, even when they r not working together, they are destined to be together ! Ha ha ( I meant this as a joke only! Please don't bash me now)

You all r right, both have their own share of mistakes that have contributed to this situation. Why I only spoke about Parth was, he always comes across as someone who is very very ambitious and serious about improving himself. Niti, though may be ambitious, seems a little laid back about it and believes in taking life as it comes.

So again, I want to clarify - this is not a Parth vs Niti post



Well if Parth heeds your advice and actually works on himself, that would be great but I've never had any hopes from this guy...his immaturity far exceed his seriousness regarding his ambitions/self-improvement...his immaturity usually wins out eventually...but I'd love to be proven wrong.

Niti is not ambitious in the same vein as him but she needs to work on her immaturity just as much, if not more.

Ultimately I think only hard knocks in life can teach these two...they don't seem inclined to heed well-intentioned advice and are governed by their giant egos instead.
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