Dear Parth, truly from a professional to another - Page 2

Absolutely, Richa had excellent managerial skills along with her fantastic creative skills. No one knew what happened behind the scenes She managed it so well and held it together. Hats off to her

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Parting note- In my work, it is the "work" that be one of the biggest aspects to being professionals.

What happened in S1 or S2 in their private lives or behind the scenes cease to influence if the product and work churned out be good.

If you drop the ball at your job for whatever issues and it influences the product and the crew..you have effed up. I see ALL of them dropping it all across various points.

Rest who cares..

Except that one good Manager who covered their flaws for long.

Exactly.

The only true measure of professionalism is how your work product looks in the end...how on earth is the client ever interested in the shit you are going through behind the scenes? Your professionalism is measured by your ability to deliver your work regardless.


I really don't care who was doing what in which season...I'm going to comment on when I see acting faltering and the work suffering...I felt Parth faltered in season 1 at times and Niti faltered MAJORLY in season 2 letting her dislike for Parth show OBVIOUSLY in MaNan scenes...major letdown that was.


The rest of the idiots were always a lost cause...not even worth commenting on.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Exactly.

The only true measure of professionalism is how your work product looks in the end...how on earth is the client ever interested in the shit you are going through behind the scenes? Your professionalism is measured by your ability to deliver your work regardless.


I really don't care who was doing what in which season...I'm going to comment on when I see acting faltering and the work suffering...I felt Parth faltered in season 1 at times and Niti faltered MAJORLY in season 2 letting her dislike for Parth show OBVIOUSLY in MaNan scenes...major letdown that was.


The rest of the idiots were always a lost cause...not even worth commenting on.

ABSOLUTELY!! 👍🏼

Originally posted by: MasakaliRani

ABSOLUTELY!! 👍🏼

Who even knows what went on behind the scenes...were people there to see it with their own eyes?? Most of it comes from each and everyone's so called 'Sources' 😆 I think KY2 is the first show where probably each fan had a source 😆 like seriously?? It's mainly the individual fans building up on their own perceptions and feeding it to others.

Professionalism for me was the output MaNan gave in their scenes. Where we will rarely find any that were forced or poor in execution...because they never bought their behind the scenes drama on-screen (this goes for S1). The funny thing is that there must have been similar problems and difference in S2 like there were in S1??? However, it appears that this time there was a role reversal...Niti had issues...and look at the output we got here?? Off course she was not the only contributor ...the change in creative's and crew...ego battles between the PH...Channel..Cast...this all led to the downfall of S2. Not a 'single person' alone!! In fact this time it looks like that he was the only one doing maximum justice to his job!!

I totally agree with you not only parth whole ky2 artist want to follow this now they all made a nursery school

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Exactly.

The only true measure of professionalism is how your work product looks in the end...how on earth is the client ever interested in the shit you are going through behind the scenes? Your professionalism is measured by your ability to deliver your work regardless.


I really don't care who was doing what in which season...I'm going to comment on when I see acting faltering and the work suffering...I felt Parth faltered in season 1 at times and Niti faltered MAJORLY in season 2 letting her dislike for Parth show OBVIOUSLY in MaNan scenes...major letdown that was.


The rest of the idiots were always a lost cause...not even worth commenting on.

Originally posted by: diju

I strongly disagree with you here. Although I am an engineer and not in the acting field, I would presume that in any field mere talent is not the basis of being professional. Professionalism is a lot more then just the final product. Its being punctual, its having good relationships with the team you work with, its working as a team, its reporting to work when you are required to and not partying instead, its working towards creating a truly positive atmosphere in your workplace. A polished final product can be delivered by an unprofessional with a team that is willing to cover-up for your flaws. (i.e waiting for you when you're late, put up with you even when you spreading negativity etc)

Talent and professionalism are two very different things. While talent can take you far, it is the combination of talent and professionalism that will keep you at the top long after those relying on talent have faded from view. From what I see right now, Parth and Niti both fall under the 'talented' category. Maybe that is why Parth and Niti both are in the mess that they are now.

You are misunderstanding my point. Talent alone cannot make your final product turn out good. It is the ability to rise above whatever is happening around you due to whatever cause and not let that mess show to your client...that is my point...in the real world, a client is least interested in knowing which member of the team behind the scenes did what...they will only comment on the final product.

So to expect sympathy by saying X person did this so in the presentation, let me just make faces and not give a damn about how the product is looking...that's not going to look professional.


LOL and people seem to be misunderstanding me as saying that Parth is free to party or report late or whatever it is he did in season 1 and that still makes him "professional"...no, my point was simply that I don't care about who is doing what behind the scenes as long as the mess doesn't show in the final product...in season 1, the mess behind the scenes didn't show up onscreen as blatantly as it did in season 2.

Ofcourse in an IDEAL team environment, everyone pulls their weight, maintains cordial relationships etc. etc...but my point was not about that...yes those things are PART of being professional but the final judgement on professionalism is connected to what product you deliver as well.


But ofcourse Parth and Niti have both failed as professionals...a large part of the team has failed as professionals in season 2, anyone can see that.

Agar ye clip sach hai to parth dude u r in big trouble man bec u disappoint ur fans very very badly man not expect from u

Originally posted by: MasakaliRani

ABSOLUTELY!! 👍🏼

Who even knows what went on behind the scenes...were people there to see it with their own eyes?? Most of it comes from each and everyone's so called 'Sources' 😆 I think KY2 is the first show where probably each fan had a source 😆 like seriously?? It's mainly the individual fans building up on their own perceptions and feeding it to others.

Professionalism for me was the output MaNan gave in their scenes. Where we will rarely find any that were forced or poor in execution...because they never bought their behind the scenes drama on-screen (this goes for S1). The funny thing is that there must have been similar problems and difference in S2 like there were in S1...no??? However, it appears that this time there was a role reversal...Niti had issues...and look at the output we got here?? Off course she was not the only contributor ...the change in creative's and crew...ego battles between the PH...Channel..Cast...this all led to the downfall of S2. Not a 'single person' alone!! In fact this time it looks like that he was the only one doing maximum justice to his job!!

The problems in season 1 and season 2 cannot be compared at all. That PaNi did not share a good equation offscreen was no secret. Even if Niti tried to cover it up in their interviews together, as and when they gave them, it was pretty clear that Parth looked at best indifferent and at worst bored (to put it mildly) with her. Don't want to get into the reasons for the same but it is a fact that Parth did manage to get certain privileges such as coming late for shoots, having long vacations etc, which would have meant the rest of the cast and crew, particularly Niti with whom he had the maximum scenes would have to carry a disproportionate work load.



To his credit, though, when he was around he gave it his 200 per cent. His involvement in the show was complete, which Niti admitted in her interviews where she said he was not only aware of what he needs to do but also what others need to do. He is also supposed to have interacted closely with the directors of the show, giving his creative inputs, which is why both Shashank and Rajeev were fond of him. A strong script, a phenomenal creative and a talented team complimented the efforts of the leads to give us a magical and memorable Manan.



Towards the end of season 1, things started changing. RY's exit, precipitation of problems between the PH and channel coupled with Parth's impatience to grow and maybe added pressure to quit from VG (as he is claiming now) led him to leave the show at a crucial juncture when there was still uncertainty about its continuance. Considering that he did not have anything substantive to do at the point, had he returned to the show in its second leg, things may have been different.




Having failed to step in when he was required, despite the PH and channel requesting in right earnest to do so and later coming back, purportedly at the behest of his fans who gave him the impression that the trend was only for one person (him), did have its effects on Niti as she had to bear a good bit of bashing for continuing to be in the show when he had quit. So she made her dislike for him quite obvious, thereby affecting her performance and in turn Manan scenes in the show. When fans pointed it to her, she did try to redeem herself later on but the poor script, lack of creativity and problems in execution by a team which was relatively mediocre led to the downfall of the show. Manan suffered the most. Yes, Parth did do justice to his job despite the hostile environment around him but then that hostility was mostly his own making. Had he not quit the show, maybe things would have been different. The show may not have scaled the peaks it did in season 1 but it would not have been so shabby as it turned out to be.



So yes, both Parth and Niti were unprofessional but while the former's problem was one of indiscipline and misplaced priorities, the latter's was the inability separate personal from professional. The environment in which the unprofessionalism of these two played out contributed to the stark difference between season 1 and season 2.

Hey...s2 team and creatives r more in need of this introspection than parth. From audi clip it is clear they were playing revenge games rather using their brains on work nd to prove their mettle.