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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shibz

Couldn't have put it better dear! 👏 One of the sanest and the most sensible post I've seen in a long time!
More than Arya or Navya, I'm disheartened the way Nandini is portrayed! And I'm afraid if this continues things are going to get messier!



i only liked Abhimanyu as a Friend to nandini, neither navya nor Aryaman,
Aryaman has Pyaar waali Yaariaan for nandini, but is termed as Fraandship..

u r right abt things getting messeir if this is continued for long, nandini sometimes act as if she is having split personality disorder, the moment arya;s angle comes in btw MaNan scene ,she becomes irritated towards manik
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: crazygirl4RD



i only liked Abhimanyu as a Friend to nandini, neither navya nor Aryaman,
Aryaman has Pyaar waali Yaariaan for nandini, but is termed as Fraandship..

u r right abt things getting messeir if this is continued for long, nandini sometimes act as if she is having split personality disorder, the moment arya;s angle comes in btw MaNan scene ,she becomes irritated towards manik


I agree with you. And I really don't like that irritated look that Nandini gives to Manik when Arya'a phone comes or something. It's annoying. 😡
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: manan23sujoy


I agree with you. And I really don't like that irritated look that Nandini gives to Manik when Arya'a phone comes or something. It's annoying. 😡

agree with all three of u
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: chattycatty



you forgot one thing.. He is psycho soha's brother.. .obvio psycho hai.. And nandini have a knack of befriending psychos... Personally i feel that somewhere it is also niti'd fault.. .she is letting her personal equation effect chemistry of manan.. You can't romance a guy onscreen if u are trying to stay an arm's distance. ..she is probably uncomfortable with parth and it shows on the screen.. .this is the first time I'm not liking her acting. .



i agree... theses day it is niti more than nandini in manan scenes😆...nd on top of that da way nandu zones out at the mention of arya though she is with manik...is putting audience in a fix😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank you all for the lovely comments. Sorry that I am not replying individually to all of you, but you guys seem to be having a good discussion going on here. 👏
I guess after all said is done the main issue is that (and here I am copying from my post in another thread) that Manan love story was not an ordinary, everyday, "realistic" love story. We were fed a steady diet of a unique fairy tale type, intense love story and thus these so called realistic explanations about no problem with Nandani having a BFF after what she had with Manik, specially after just mere four months since his death is 'unrealistic' and ofcourse would not be taken very well by the fandom.

The kind of all encompassing love story they had and specially Nandani who never had any kind of Bff type friends before Manik, does not leave room for Nandani to have a Bff so soon after Maniks dissappearance.

Manan story was not just a love story but a great and deep friendship too. She might have taken support and help from Aryaman to some extent during the past four months, but still the fact they showed her being so depressed and missing Manik to the level that she was hallucinating him does not at all mesh with her replacing or moving on even in terms of a that kind of close friendship with anyone that soon.

And neither was it even shown in S2 at all. Sure she was shown to going that route to some extent, but then with the return of Parth they have changed it to showcase her depression and inability to move on, so even in that sense it is hard to take this suddenly BFF thing they seem intent in throwing at our faces.

I'm sure we all would have had the same problem with Manik if they had show him getting another new Bff within four months after Nandani is shown dead or have dissappeared.
After the kind of story they showed between Manan it is not unreasonable to expect fans to not want Manan to move on in any aspect of their relationship even in 4 years time let alone a mere four months. 😡

No one asked them to do a continuation of S1 with the same characters. They could have used Yariayaan as a brandname and shown a different story, But after getting fans invested in a fairytale and unrealistic love story, they can't suddenly expect fans to switch off the Manan of S1 in their minds and infuse reality in discussing and understanding what they are currently showing.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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totally agree with u ... well said !!
they said aryamans friendship and show some other feeling in him.. in tomorrow's episode also ( idont know how many of u have watched it) aryaman said about his bad luck .. what cvs trying to say about his bad luck .. i cant imagine this with friendship// boyfriend aanese kisi ke friendship nahi toot jaathe.. so y aryaman siad abou bad luck ..was he expect nandu will become his gf if manik never come back ?? is this feeling is called friendship ,.. so stupid ..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mickeym

totally agree with u ... well said !!
they said aryamans friendship and show some other feeling in him.. in tomorrow's episode also ( idont know how many of u have watched it) aryaman said about his bad luck .. what cvs trying to say about his bad luck .. i cant imagine this with friendship// boyfriend aanese kisi ke friendship nahi toot jaathe.. so y aryaman siad abou bad luck ..was he expect nandu will become his gf if manik never come back ?? is this feeling is called friendship ,.. so stupid ..

Actually dear, it not how others including Aryaman's reaction and expectations that's bothering me and most of the other fans if I'm not mistaken.

I can very well relate to her being friends with Aryaman and being a good friend to him since he was supportive to her while most of the others were too busy with their lives.

As @Shibz said somewhere here in this thread, its Nanadani's reactions to this friendship specially in comparison to how she is currenlty behaving with Manik thats the problem.

But the kind of love that was shown between Manan which includes deep friendship and understanding, does not allow her to be able to have a bff kind of friend so soon after Maniks dissappearance even with another girl. Its not just because Aryaman is a guy that's the problem. Its that deep friendship WAS part of Manan love so taking any of it away and making others as important as him to her is just not sold so easily within a mere months time.

Yes this may sound all unrealistic, but thats what was sold to us in S1 and even in S2 with her depression and hallucinations till Manik actually appeared on the scene.
Fine Aryaman is her friend, but just like Navya is her friend. Just because Aryaman lent his support to her during the past month while others were too busy with their lives does not mean that Nandani who shared a deep love cum bff type relationship with Manik would have bff type feelings for someone else within that short time.
If that was so the cvs shouldn't have built expectations of fans by showing her deep connect with Manik in terms of hallucinations. In the real world just how many people who have lost their loves keep hallucinating their loved one everywhere when they are belived to be dead???
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After feeding unrealistic fairytale type situations don't cry foul when most of the audience buys it.
Don't throw sexim and realism in our faces after showing Nanadani making Manik both her soul mate and BFF in a whole year and even for half the time of S2.

If the Cvs want fans to erase memories of S1 with regards to Manan. then they themselves shouldn't have raised expectations of fans with Nanadani's depression and hallucinatoins along with her tashan with Madyam and friendship with Aryaman.
Edited by SheAish - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: SheAish

Actually dear, it not how others including Aryaman's reaction and expectations that's bothering me and most of the other fans if I'm not mistaken.

I can very well relate to her being friends with Aryaman and being a good friend to him since he was supportive to her while most of the others were too busy with their lives.

As @Shibz said somewhere here in this thread, its Nanadani's reactions to this friendship specially in comparison to how she is currenlty behaving with Manik thats the problem.

But the kind of love that was shown between Manan which includes deep friendship and understanding, does not allow her to be able to have a bff kind of friend so soon after Maniks dissappearance even with another girl. Its not just because Aryaman is a guy that's the problem. Its that deep friendship WAS part of Manan love so taking any of it away and making others as important as him to her is just not sold so easily within a mere months time.

Yes this may sound all unrealistic, but thats what was sold to us in S1 and even in S2 with her depression and hallucinations till Manik actually appeared on the scene.
Fine Aryaman is her friend, but just like Navya is her friend. Just because Aryaman lent his support to her during the past month while others were too busy with their lives does not mean that Nandani who shared a deep love cum bff type relationship with Manik would have bff type feelings for someone else within that short time.
If that was so the cvs shouldn't have built expectations of fans by showing her deep connect with Manik in terms of hallucinations. In the real world just how many people who have lost their loves keep hallucinating their loved one everywhere when they are belived to be dead???
.
After feeding unrealistic fairytale type situations don't cry foul when most of the audience buys it.
Don't throw sexim and realism in our faces after showing Nanadani making Manik both her soul mate and BFF in a whole year and even for half the time of S2.

If the Cvs want fans to erase memories of S1 with regards to Manan. then they themselves shouldn't have raised expectations of fans with Nanadani's depression and hallucinatoins along with her tashan with Madyam and friendship with Aryaman.


+100000 to each nd every point u been writing in this thread.
Current team should really sit and watch S1. MaNan post NYE began their relationship as friends and much later progressed to an official couple. Manik was and is the ideal kind of friend that was something about him nandini always adored in him and for Manik too though he had his fab 5 but on friendship day MaNan first celebrated it with each other. That itself speaks volume of what MaNan r for each other just not lovers they are even BFFs too.
But in s2 we hear nandu saying to navya aftr her she found aryaman as her best friend. And that was the biggest disappointment for me as that is definitely not the nandini we knew since 1 yr.

And in latest thursday's epi...in the phone convo when arya suggested her to talk to manik den her reply was...she can't as he knows manik gets into angsty monster mood . It was a very silly thing i accept she must have just told ..but wen frm nandu has started to back off from speaking and making him understand just because he gets angry nd into monster mode. And on top of that she was telling this to arya. 😕
Edited by mishaarshi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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yr awesome post ,that's wat I wanted to say .tune dilll jittt liyaaa mera🤗
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ok guys...pls don't bash me on this! I may say something from Aryaman's side!😆
Ok somewhere I feel that there is a difference between the kind of friendship that Nandini and Navya had...Nandini and Dhruv had...Kabir and Nandini had...Abhimanyu and Nandini had... Nandini and Manik had...and...the kind of friendship Nandini shares with Aryaman.

(1) Friendship between Navya and Nandini- No deep discussions. It was always like two friends who are totally getting excited around something and having some fun time together. Navya is not a very brainy kind of girl...she was more into whims of the moment type. So Navya never discussed too deep things with her and she hid a lot of things from Navya too...specially the fact that she was friends with Manik.

(2) Friendship between Nandini and Dhruv- To Nandini Dhruv was somebody who was sweet among the evil lot of Fab 5!😆 So she was dependent on him to a certain extent as she felt that the only air of relief at that point in SPACE was Dhruv. So she connected with him on that level. There also Dhruv had a romantic interest in Nandini.

(3) Friendship between Kabir and Nandini- To Nandini at many points, Kabir was like her secret-keeper. It was same when it came to Manik too! Kabir was the most dependable among all the members of Fab 5 when it gets to Nandini. With Kabir Nandini was bold enough to share her thought that Soha could perhaps be dangerous. Manik was the impulsive kind of person ...so he wouldn't even listen. He would say that I will take care of myself. But eventually it was Kabir who helped Nandini to a great extent in saving Manik from Soha!😆 Manik didn't mind Kabir's equation with Nandini as he knew that he could trust his friend for not having any feelings for Nandu!😛

(4) Friendship between Abhimanyu and Nandini- Abhimanyu was a friend who was cool, calm, positive and full of cheerfulness. So she felt as if she could share everything she wanted to with him. Even about Manik...she was able to share with Abhimanyu. So yes...next to Kabir, Abhimanyu had a close relation with Nandini as to friendship...clear of romance! Manik didn't initially like Abhimanyu's equation with Nandini also!😆


(5) Friendship between Manik and Nandini- If we think carefully..the biggest reason why Nandini thought of making Manik a friend at first was not just because he was a good friend to Fab 5...but also coz of their growing intense feelings towards each other...which even went to the extent of crossing the line of kissing to something more...like in the scene where Nandini asks Manik "U know Manik..kal raat agar knot khulta tho we could've crossed a line"~ Nandini suggested to Manik friendship which Manik didn't approve of...because he felt that they cannot be friends actually. But though I loved the kind of romantic-friendship Manik and Nandini shared...that friendship was for the sake of keeping a curb on Manik! I mean...that friendship relation calmed Manik to look at Nandini objectively as a friend. He put brakes on himself..even when he wanted to take the intimacy one step further. But then...the biggest question that I would put forth is...all through Nandini was scared of Manik. I mean...she didn't trust Manik ever enough to go and tell her feelings completely to him. Even the story of Aryaman got revealed finally when Aryaman himself revealed it. Nandini was scared..hesitant of Manik's anger. Usually if we are totally friends with someone...we are most comfortable in a friendship where we are able to share each and every feeling of ours.

Take for instance the way now Nandini is scared of how Manik will react when he sees Nandini's intimacy with Aryaman. Somewhere...in the friendship that Manik and Nandini has...Nandini is unable to totally open upto Manik and say "Look Manik...please don't feel insecure...I don't have anything going with Aryaman. Aryaman has become a good friend the past few months...and I cannot totally abandon him suddenly as a friend and be only connected with you"

If Nandini says such a thing to Manik...she knows what Manik's reaction would be. Even with regard to Maddy...Nandini is unable to share her thoughts completely about Maddy with Manik...because Manik doesn't want to know the equation between Nandini and Madhyam. Manik just looks at things as how it is. He believes in what he sees. He sees Madhyam trying to tamper with Fab 5's songs and he won't listen to Nandini on that. In such a situation...she tries to contact Aryaman. Here Aryaman is like an outlet to which she can direct her worries. She knows that Fab 5 will stand by Manik. So she should talk to an outsider of Fab 5 about her worries.

(6) Friendship of Aryaman with Nandini- Aryaman first wanted to win the trust of Nandini ever since the whole Soha revenge thing happened. Maybe his guilt trip made him want to do extra to make it up to Nandini. He first tried to harm Manik and in all that he sort of used Nandini midway and Nandini's protective nature..perhaps attracted Aryaman at that point too. Fab 5 was busy...Aryaman had no other job😆 so he went after Nandini trying to console her. Maybe its Aryaman's calm attitude and his style of speaking...which made Nandini feel relaxed. Aryaman is not as funny as Kabir...but somewhere talking to him perhaps made Nandini feel comfortable. She could share everything with him and Aryaman who himself felt Manik won't return perhaps tried to make Nandini also think the same way.

His only fault is that...his thought that Manik won't return...made him become a closer friend to Nandini and his expectations grew to such an extent that he fell in love with her secretly. But Nandini doesn't realize that Aryaman has such a feeling to her...because Aryaman acts like a friend around her. Aryaman is therefore sharing his secrets with other friends...just like Nandini shares her feelings with Aryaman instead of with Manik. Nandini knows that if Manik and Aryaman stand against each other...the one who will back off from a fight will be Aryaman. So she finds him more dependable/comfortable as a friend.

We always have this one friend with whom we share feelings partially...and another friend with whom we will share a bit more. Manik ke gusse se Nandini ko pehle bhi darr lagte the..ab bhi lagte hai. Yes Manik is a good friend...as in he is dependable, protective...but he is angry young man and like a volcano that may explode any moment! So Nandini is even now scared of that side of him. Manik has leadership qualities, he takes up initiatives, but he is impulsive too. Nandini shares her feelings and thoughts with somebody who will sit back and listen and in that way she is dependent on Aryaman...


This is just my POV...I felt that way with regard to all friendships. We must remember that Nandini first had a romantic connect with Manik and then a friendship which was formed much later on. Nandini's knows Manik's moods more and hence she is reluctant. But that is where the beauty of MaNan relationship lies...somewhere...she has a slight tension if Manik will act impulsive and she tries to always keep him calm. 😳

Like Manik said once...he will stand by his friends anytime...as in by Fab 5 to protect them...but he expects Nandini to be his shining star always and to not allow him to return to the darkness from which he came out after he met her. He doesn't want to return to being the monster Manik..the devil he was before..once again. So he expects Nandini to help him control his anger and keep his monster part cooled down!😆😛
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