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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

I don't think zeenat encountered domestic abuse from.mazhar .I saw mazhar interview in cineblitz April 1998 edition .me fan of zeenat .so I remember it

In that he swore on his kids that he never raised even his little finger on her he beat many people FOR her but he never beat her .i don't think he lied .. and he never took.a single rupee from her ever and he has no weakness of alcohol.or women like many.men in industry .

In sime agarwal interview two years after death of mazhar zeenat never told that mazhar abused her physically .what zeenat said was she married in haste bcos she wanted kids and after one year she realised he and her were not compatible and by that time a kid was born and she decided to.make her marriage work bcos she did not want her kids not have a dad like zeenat suffered .zeenat parents divorced when she was very young

Why zeenat divorced her hubby it's not bcos of abuse it's bcos he fell sick and for complete 4 years he was bed ridden it was such an emotional turmoil in her she was drained .please see her interview with sime agarwal


Regarding Aishwarya she left Salman the moment he started abusing her and rest is all about Salman not digesting it and harassing her to be with him

Here is an outlook link from 1998



which will tell not only about Mazhar khan but also Sanjay Khan. Zeenat had a distorted face because of the injuries she endured at the hands of Sanjay khan. Zeenat never divorced Mazhar he died before that. They had had a Nikah and she had filed fir a khula which takes lifetime to process.




Aishwarya Rai stayed in abusive relation for quite some time. Salman was nasty to her parents yet she continued to meet him. She never filed an official complaint of the abuse she faced at the hands Salman so much for being progressive and accomplished. She broke up with him in 2002 while There were reports of her arriving at the sets of Dhai akshar prem ke beaten up. This movie was released in 2000. Here is an india today link to Aishwarya and sSalman’s story.


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: kar08

Take care..I was on complete bedrest from 3rd to 9th month for my son and I know how irritating and difficult it is to be stuck in one place! Let's keep the discussions going 😊Hope all good with your health.

I am as good as can be thank you for your kind words. I am sure you understand my plight. This was an unexpected pregnancy and I have complications especially because of my age. I am forty so yeah it is tad bit difficult having said that I am enjoying this resting phase too.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Don't even think of the smoke pot now ... 😊

Lol nah was just joking yaar

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: mytinypaintings

I am as good as can be thank you for your kind words. I am sure you understand my plight. This was an unexpected pregnancy and I have complications especially because of my age. I am forty so yeah it is tad bit difficult having said that I am enjoying this resting phase too.

In some ways, yes, it's good to put up one's feet and take a break from routine chores 😊 i too had complications. Hope you are being monitored closely. All the best!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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In some ways, yes, it's good to put up one's feet and take a break from routine chores 😊 i too had complications. Hope you are being monitored closely. All the best!

I am in the hospital not at home any more. I sleep as much as I can but some nights are just to hard.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: mytinypaintings


See you was fun talkining mera din abshuru ho raha hai but I am resigned to bed most of the time. I am expecting my second child and am on bedrest all the time. So I have all the time to talk......lol

Ooh! Congratulations!

Take care!! Good wishes for a healthy baby and a healthy you.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: mytinypaintings

Here is an outlook link from 1998



which will tell not only about Mazhar khan but also Sanjay Khan. Zeenat had a distorted face because of the injuries she endured at the hands of Sanjay khan. Zeenat never divorced Mazhar he died before that. They had had a Nikah and she had filed fir a khula which takes lifetime to process.




Aishwarya Rai stayed in abusive relation for quite some time. Salman was nasty to her parents yet she continued to meet him. She never filed an official complaint of the abuse she faced at the hands Salman so much for being progressive and accomplished. She broke up with him in 2002 while There were reports of her arriving at the sets of Dhai akshar prem ke beaten up. This movie was released in 2000. Here is an india today link to Aishwarya and sSalman’s story.


That link u gave was when zeenat after filing divorce petition divorce not yet granted but she started living with a 24 yr old guy exactly half her age and her sis in law did not like her filing divorce manipulated zeenat 11 yr old son ..about zeenat boyfriend and the boy and sis in law came and ravaged her car house and beat her bf and abused her .


What I was telling is physical abuse was not there when she was married and she did not give divorce bcis of physical abuse

There were many issues in their marriage but physical abuse was not one of them . incompatibility ..ego issue of her hubby his free spending on cars ..his failed production business bcos of his ill health.he literally on bed for one and half years . Same time zeenat mom death Etc ..


That's why I said hear in zeenat own words in sime agarwal interview .don't come to conclusion reading some links .they always manipulate the news.

That Sanjay Khan thing was true .he hit her black and blue and after that day they were seperated but she never filed complaint on him .strange ..may be bcis of that seventies era .if it was now she surely would have filed complaint .


Regarding Aishwarya Salman issue ..yes he harassed her on sets and abused her emotionally ..she did not bear that abuse for very long .she bird it for a short time may be one year .that time period every one will give for a relationship


Writing on paper is easy .practically in relationships u won't be able to break from relationship the minute he lays hand on u .u will give time bcis u will be so much emotionally invested and u are not a robot to switch on and off just like that in relationships

When u feel abuse is repetitive u get off from relationship .some abusive guys r very twisted .they will abuse u and the next minute they shower so much love on u .u will get confused whether to come out of or stay in


Counsellors also say those relationships are hard to break off unless u r a very strong person .

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

That link u gave was when zeenat after filing divorce petition divorce not yet granted but she started living with a 24 yr old guy exactly half her age and her sis in law did not like her filing divorce manipulated zeenat 11 yr old son ..about zeenat boyfriend and the boy and sis in law came and ravaged her car house and beat her bf and abused her .


What I was telling is physical abuse was not there when she was married and she did not give divorce bcis of physical abuse

There were many issues in their marriage but physical abuse was not one of them . incompatibility ..ego issue of her hubby his free spending on cars ..his failed production business bcos of his ill health.he literally on bed for one and half years . Same time zeenat mom death Etc ..


That's why I said hear in zeenat own words in sime agarwal interview .don't come to conclusion reading some links .they always manipulate the news.

That Sanjay Khan thing was true .he hit her black and blue and after that day they were seperated but she never filed complaint on him .strange ..may be bcis of that seventies era .if it was now she surely would have filed complaint .


Regarding Aishwarya Salman issue ..yes he harassed her on sets and abused her emotionally ..she did not bear that abuse for very long .she bird it for a short time may be one year .that time period every one will give for a relationship


Writing on paper is easy .practically in relationships u won't be able to break from relationship the minute he lays hand on u .u will give time bcis u will be so much emotionally invested and u are not a robot to switch on and off just like that in relationships

When u feel abuse is repetitive u get off from relationship .some abusive guys r very twisted .they will abuse u and the next minute they shower so much love on u .u will get confused whether to come out of or stay in


Counsellors also say those relationships are hard to break off unless u r a very strong person .

Look I really don’t want to enter into an argument with you in this because I don’t have that kind of authoritative info as you do. In the show itself she says does not wants to talk about Mazhar since he is not here to defend himself and that very graceful of her. She clearly evaded talking about Sanjay saying that we shut unpleasant memories away that is how we cope. It takes a lot to accept in public that I have been beaten by someone whom I trusted. There is more than ample stories going arrOund about the abuse she endured with Mazhar khan too. Any which ways zeenat not only did not file a complaint against Sanjay she swore for her love to him.

So far Aishwarya goes One year is not a short time to be in an abusive relationship. So far I am concerned even a day is too much. She was physically also abused by Salman not only emotionally. She was threatened and much more.


I have never said it is easy to break a relationship. Infact this is exactly what I was saying that people stay in abusive relationships for n number of reasons. They make compromises to make the best out of the situation. They endure cheating spouses, beating spouses and berating spouses, for longest periods of times. They endure it for emotional reasons may be financial reasons may be social reasons but they do. Very few go ahead and formally complain about it.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: mytinypaintings

Look I really don’t want to enter into an argument with you in this because I don’t have that kind of authoritative info as you do. In the show itself she says does not wants to talk about Mazhar since he is not here to defend himself and that very graceful of her. She clearly evaded talking about Sanjay saying that we shut unpleasant memories away that is how we cope. It takes a lot to accept in public that I have been beaten by someone whom I trusted. There is more than ample stories going arrOund about the abuse she endured with Mazhar khan too. Any which ways zeenat not only did not file a complaint against Sanjay she swore for her love to him.

So far Aishwarya goes One year is not a short time to be in an abusive relationship. So far I am concerned even a day is too much. She was physically also abused by Salman not only emotionally. She was threatened and much more.


I have never said it is easy to break a relationship. Infact this is exactly what I was saying that people stay in abusive relationships for n number of reasons. They make compromises to make the best out of the situation. They endure cheating spouses, beating spouses and berating spouses, for longest periods of times. They endure it for emotional reasons may be financial reasons may be social reasons but they do. Very few go ahead and formally complain about it.

Complaining u have to show proof and that's hard .and finally judge dismissed the case so people just come out of those relationships when they feel they cantt endure

In star dust magazine in 1998 I remember I read it. I was a big fan then her hubby was alive ..zeenat gave interview reg why she divorced and even mazhar gave reply to her in cineblitz magazine


I read both magazines


Then I came to conclusion but I don't have those copies with me now

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

Complaining u have to show proof and that's hard .and finally judge dismissed the case so people just come out of those relationships when they feel they cantt endure

In star dust magazine in 1998 I remember I read it. I was a big fan then her hubby was alive ..zeenat gave interview reg why she divorced and even mazhar gave reply to her in cineblitz magazine


I read both magazines


Then I came to conclusion but I don't have those copies with me now

I have never come across an abuser accept that yes I hit you and it was wrong. Most will deny it outright and others will say you ( victim) made me do it. Do you have a tendency of justifying abuse?

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