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Sammy brilliant analysis. I respect your views and all about marital rape....oh I could say a lot too. I have strong feelings for that too. Yes a woman should never be subject to that ever....

But here in the case of this soap...its still early. If it was rape...which I don't think...But if it was, then Shreya sure need to pack up and wind up this mess and end now!!!! As this track is unpalatable and indespicable. The only thing I am sure that keeps the show going is watching Apoorva. Not only my and us POV but many viewers...

Coming back to the track....we always knew that this track was heading nowhere except downwards.... But now it is getting diplorably horrible..... I posted yesterday many a times expressing a disgusting and dirty feeling....with the act.... But but we are really not sure as to what happened. As in their ususal hinting way that they put the occurance of those events...
Dev in his anger (Justifyable...here he is expressing his anger and jealousy and asking her straight questions and she replying flippantly..... NO that is not done. you cannot goad a man's ego such that ...NO not done at all....) throws her onto the bed ...and she in her confusion thats what they emoted...Confusion.. 😡 😡 After all the questions and the way you answered them, do you have a right to show confusion....Well Dev forced himself on her. But what does she do? She didn't resist. She simply closed her eyes and seems like relented . But it was not involutary. Her relent was like she wished it ...was too lost.... At least at this point I would say she accepted and he softened.....

So it was not rape at the point yesterday. Now coming back to whether it was rape or not. Till yesterday I felt it was not. After we see the continuation today we shall know. As it could be three things
1) She accepted it and it was not rape....
2) She doesn't but he forced and it was too much attraction and she relented but under his force, then it was rape....
3) All of it didn't happen...maybe she fainted and he made her sleep, or it was all his nightmare.... Today's episode will tell all.

In either of the 3 ways I feel there is nothing very nice about the track. They are surely taking us viewers for a bad ride.

But last of all I am sure there is something, something that keeps Apoorva going. Knowing his worth and experience, there has to be something appealing to him that has him in the show. And then after everything we must not forget that tinseltown is after all a very harsh place and we live in the world of hard facts that everyone needs to work real hard for earning your daily bread. So I am sticking to this soap only for apoorva as an ardent fan.

All the actors do a wonderful job. I agree that as a senior actor and with a wealth of his experience Apu can call the shots but then we know how that could make him out to be. He did call them at the Bhadrapur and marriage point, but then I am sure they gave him something that satisfied him. so lets wait and find out what is it that satisfied him and enjoy his presence however indespicable and deplorable the track be.....

I hope I have put my POV in a straightforward manner. But I am sure you have understood. I still am feeling confused as to what I said... Never mind... lets watch it only for Apoorva... 😳 😉 😃

Originally posted by: dudleysam

i am sorry dear - but, marriage is more important than friendship. If Kaajjal was just dancing in front of DEv that was fine. he is her husband. And if she wanted to do a video, than she could have done one with a still camera - dearest..it is doable.

but Aditya was not some childhood friedn where only friendship existed, in which case i would agree with you. then even dev wouldnt have reacted as badly as he did. For he would have known that kaajjal and aditya are very good friends...

but aditya was the man dont forget she was poised to marry, and aditya asked her to marry Dev...she didnt break off like n case of Dhruv...

so how come he suddenly becomes so important to her that she crosses all boundaries...in real life it is not possible...maybe she went a bit overboard with the court case, but after the media fiasco, she should have retracted and stayed within her bounds.For her own safteyif not anything else.

there are so many real life instances of women like that getting badly hurt for their stupidity. and the way she danced secutively, cmon which man would have resisted especially aditya who loves her...sorry i stroongly disagree being friends theory, lot of extra marital realtionsips are presented with this just friends theory.

sammy

Friendship has its own place and marriage its own. Kajal is not Dev's property. If your married to someone that does not make them your property. Dev can be as insecure as he wants to be. If it wasn't for Aditya, who knows what would have happened to Kajal. She could've fallen in the wrong hands and then Dev would've regretted his decision his whole life. It's not like Kajal only knew Aditya for a day. In a way her life is indebted to him. If Dev fails to see the pureness in their friendship, then that is Dev's own fault.

Still camera or not, who cares! We don't live in the pre-historic days. If she wants to do something sexy for her husband then there is nothing wrong with that either. It would only be wrong if her intent was different and she was trying to arouse Aditya. As far as I know she wasn't trying to turn him on. As for her getting hurt - that is why Aditya is known as a real man. Only idiot guys would take advantage of a female. Only idiot guys would not know self-restraint. A true man does know his limits and boundaries. There are a million females in the entertainment industry that make po*n videos and do nude modeling. Does that mean that they all are in danger of being raped? NO!

If Dev is going to have a low-life mentality than that's his problem. I don't see anything wrong with what Kajal did. I see Dev as a hypocrite. He insulted his love and his friendship. Why we be two-faced? Why sit here and tell Aditya that his life is indebted to him for letting Kajal and him get married and then tell both of them that he trusts them and therefore does not need to know what happened when the media drama happened. Then he starts with all his doubts. What a great backstabber to both his wife and friend!

This whole mentality of a guy and girl can never be friends is bs! Extra marital relations or not, when you love someone so much, you will never even think about having an affair. With people that do have affairs they will do so regardless of whether they are friends with someone or not.

Originally posted by: autumnleaf

Sammy brilliant analysis. I respect your views and all about marital rape....oh I could say a lot too. I have strong feelings for that too. Yes a woman should never be subject to that ever....

But here in the case of this soap...its still early. If it was rape...which I don't think...But if it was, then Shreya sure need to pack up and wind up this mess and end now!!!! As this track is unpalatable and indespicable. The only thing I am sure that keeps the show going is watching Apoorva. Not only my and us POV but many viewers...

Coming back to the track....we always knew that this track was heading nowhere except downwards.... But now it is getting diplorably horrible..... I posted yesterday many a times expressing a disgusting and dirty feeling....with the act.... But but we are really not sure as to what happened. As in their ususal hinting way that they put the occurance of those events...
Dev in his anger (Justifyable...here he is expressing his anger and jealousy and asking her straight questions and she replying flippantly..... NO that is not done. you cannot goad a man's ego such that ...NO not done at all....) throws her onto the bed ...and she in her confusion thats what they emoted...Confusion.. 😡 😡 After all the questions and the way you answered them, do you have a right to show confusion....Well Dev forced himself on her. But what does she do? She didn't resist. She simply closed her eyes and seems like relented . But it was not involutary. Her relent was like she wished it ...was too lost.... At least at this point I would say she accepted and he softened.....

So it was not rape at the point yesterday. Now coming back to whether it was rape or not. Till yesterday I felt it was not. After we see the continuation today we shall know. As it could be three things
1) She accepted it and it was not rape....
2) She doesn't but he forced and it was too much attraction and she relented but under his force, then it was rape....
3) All of it didn't happen...maybe she fainted and he made her sleep, or it was all his nightmare.... Today's episode will tell all.

In either of the 3 ways I feel there is nothing very nice about the track. They are surely taking us viewers for a bad ride.

But last of all I am sure there is something, something that keeps Apoorva going. Knowing his worth and experience, there has to be something appealing to him that has him in the show. And then after everything we must not forget that tinseltown is after all a very harsh place and we live in the world of hard facts that everyone needs to work real hard for earning your daily bread. So I am sticking to this soap only for apoorva as an ardent fan.

All the actors do a wonderful job. I agree that as a senior actor and with a wealth of his experience Apu can call the shots but then we know how that could make him out to be. He did call them at the Bhadrapur and marriage point, but then I am sure they gave him something that satisfied him. so lets wait and find out what is it that satisfied him and enjoy his presence however indespicable and deplorable the track be.....

I hope I have put my POV in a straightforward manner. But I am sure you have understood. I still am feeling confused as to what I said... Never mind... lets watch it only for Apoorva... 😳 😉 😃

thank god...jaanoo..you have come..🤗..😳.i feel so much relief...i felt people on this forum will string me up as a despot and a fanatic of indian values for these beliefs..and even hate me for it😕..

thank you so much...dearest...i knew my friends would support me...😳muaahwaha😳..🤗.as a married woman yourself you know and understand what i was trying to portray...😳🤗

apu is a sweetheart and i was shocked for a moment to believe he would agree to such a scene...after pardes...i am sure he would have learnt his lesson...that it is not for him....😳leave these horrific acts to the ranjits, shivanshs..not you baby....😳not you😳

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no matter what, bread adn butter an actor has an responsiblity....

do you know that....on the show LOST - evangelline who plays KATE refused to do graphic sex scenes , as it went against her principles...this despite in the industry that is a norm...now that takes guts for an actor doing a first big show...

coming to APu hes been around too long, he is the show...they cant do without him...and how can an actor of his calibre be happy with such a role...that continues to fall in quality....

if he was like the others, do you think he would have been so endearing...looks apart...there are many good looking actors...incl..chetan hansraj...but do we even look at them...no it is aPu for us ...why because he is anice perosn...it shows in his eyes, the vibes he portrays...his sensitivity...to the roles...his sincerity....it is there...

you cnat be a good actor if you are not a good human being..😳.dear..and APu is one...so i am hoping for his sake😳...if not for the millions of fans who look up to him, that this incident like you said was genuine passion,😳 desire 😳on part of both parties....not out of obsession and certainly not something horrific as rape...

i hope i am not sounding...all confused now...dear...😳

sammy😛

Ok I am coming back....

No character can take a 360 degree in one episode...in serials it might happen But not the main lead.

The thought of rape didnt occure to me...Cause Kaajjal was sleeping peacefully.Now well shouldnt be shedding abucket of tears?? 😆
And beinga rue feminist If it was Rape...well Dev deserves to be in jail.Besides Dev did not sprout any dialogues like 'yeh maine gussa mein kya kar diya'.He was looking at her with a certain sadness...
Kajjal cant have fainted....Meaning after sometime she would have woken up screaming an to me she looked sleeping very blissfully.( Like Autumn ji confsuion should bve shreyas second name...)

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And last of all....Sammy I think its a dream.Cause dev was dead drunk in Madh house...how come he wa on his two feet again??


He never got back Home.Cause I feel the moment he got back they show a very wierd different dev to us....A dream like illlusion...God he;s having a nightmare I think!!

And second If dev is killing kaajjal...he becomes the villain of the story.Kya u -turn...so adi hero??
Huh??Someone hold me..These questions make me dizzy!!

And one point I totally disagree...Adi and dev are Friends?? No way....Yeah If dev suspsected kaajjal he owes kaaju an explanation but not adi.I dont see him indebted to adi cause I feel dev never liked adi that much in the first place.He just tolerate him for kaajjal and thought of him as a good human being!! So please dont expect dev to understand adi...yup but better expect him to understand kaajjal!!

Originally posted by: Sharmii

Ok I am coming back....

No character can take a 360 degree in one episode...in serials it might happen But not the main lead.

The thought of rape didnt occure to me...Cause Kaajjal was sleeping peacefully.Now well shouldnt be shedding abucket of tears?? 😆
And beinga rue feminist If it was Rape...well Dev deserves to be in jail.Besides Dev did not sprout any dialogues like 'yeh maine gussa mein kya kar diya'.He was looking at her with a certain sadness...
Kajjal cant have fainted....Meaning after sometime she would have woken up screaming an to me she looked sleeping very blissfully.( Like Autumn ji confsuion should bve shreyas second name...)

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And last of all....Sammy I think its a dream.Cause dev was dead drunk in Madh house...how come he wa on his two feet again??


He never got back Home.Cause I feel the moment he got back they show a very wierd different dev to us....A dream like illlusion...God he;s having a nightmare I think!!

And second If dev is killing kaajjal...he becomes the villain of the story.Kya u -turn...so adi hero??
Huh??Someone hold me..These questions make me dizzy!!

Sharmii I am here for you....😳(This is AS's words... he speaks from your avatar...)

Are you okay girl? (Autumn speaking...) Don't worry we will wire AS... He is ever ready to save his damsel in distress... He is fresh from saving one already....😆

Now coming back to my confusion...I am sure of my POV...But we will only get to confirm from today's episode.😛 I know what I think, I might not have put it brilliantly. you see I am not the person to have a way with words its kashish's job...😉 But I sure am not confused. Its Shreya I don't trust. They come up with the most unexpected. If I say its rape...this whole thing will turn out to be his nightmare.... And If I sweetly say Not Rape...My worst nightmares will turn out to be true.....😕

I hate Shreya.....😡😭

Originally posted by: Sharmii

Ok I am coming back....

No character can take a 360 degree in one episode...in serials it might happen But not the main lead.

The thought of rape didnt occure to me...Cause Kaajjal was sleeping peacefully.Now well shouldnt be shedding abucket of tears?? 😆
And beinga rue feminist If it was Rape...well Dev deserves to be in jail.Besides Dev did not sprout any dialogues like 'yeh maine gussa mein kya kar diya'.He was looking at her with a certain sadness...
Kajjal cant have fainted....Meaning after sometime she would have woken up screaming an to me she looked sleeping very blissfully.( Like Autumn ji confsuion should bve shreyas second name...)

'

And last of all....Sammy I think its a dream.Cause dev was dead drunk in Madh house...how come he wa on his two feet again??


He never got back Home.Cause I feel the moment he got back they show a very wierd different dev to us....A dream like illlusion...God he;s having a nightmare I think!!

And second If dev is killing kaajjal...he becomes the villain of the story.Kya u -turn...so adi hero??
Huh??Someone hold me..These questions make me dizzy!!

thank god sharmii.😳..i thought all bhootnis were so impressed with apus performance and screen presence that the horror of the scene or the implication was lost on evcerybody...😕.i was appalled to see not one comment on this act...evrybody was praising how hot he looked and how passionate...so i had to say this...i am sorry...dear friends and sisters😕....i know you will disagree...and think i am overeacting.....

we are the viewers, the audience all this is dished out for....we do have a say ini it and not blindly accept all crap....

we givce the TRPs...and most of the members on this forum are young women....it is for them i say this...more than anyone else...

.without wanting to sound too patronising...i know all you are very strong women and capable of seeing the wood from the trees....😳much more intelligent....than these makers give us credit for...but....😃

i shudder to think what effect it must have had on some of the younger minds here...😳so i spoke out...for my dear younger sisters especially please dont get carried away by Apus performance....or his looks...if he is agreeing to do something...irresponsible we must not accept it...

...i trust aPu...maybe he has...done it diff..maybe it was mutual consent...though i doubt it....but yes, now that autumn has spoken i feel better....maybe it was just shreyas bloopers...that apu was in madh house sloshed and never did anything maybe it was a dream, he wakes up from like kaju has about NT mom.....

lets hope so...for the sake of APu and all his fans...i desperately do...

sammy😕

Originally posted by: dudleysam

thank god...jaanoo..you have come..🤗..😳.i feel so much relief...i felt people on this forum will string me up as a despot and a fanatic of indian values for these beliefs..and even hate me for it😕..

thank you so much...dearest...i knew my friends would support me...😳muaahwaha😳..🤗.as a married woman yourself you know and understand what i was trying to portray...😳🤗

apu is a sweetheart and i was shocked for a moment to believe he would agree to such a scene...after pardes...i am sure he would have learnt his lesson...that it is not for him....😳leave these horrific acts to the ranjits, shivanshs..not you baby....😳not you😳

😳

no matter what, bread adn butter an actor has an responsiblity....

do you know that....on the show LOST - evangelline who plays KATE refused to do graphic sex scenes , as it went against her principles...this despite in the industry that is a norm...now that takes guts for an actor doing a first big show...

coming to APu hes been around too long, he is the show...they cant do without him...and how can an actor of his calibre be happy with such a role...that continues to fall in quality....

if he was like the others, do you think he would have been so endearing...looks apart...there are many good looking actors...incl..chetan hansraj...but do we even look at them...no it is aPu for us ...why because he is anice perosn...it shows in his eyes, the vibes he portrays...his sensitivity...to the roles...his sincerity....it is there...

you cnat be a good actor if you are not a good human being..😳.dear..and APu is one...so i am hoping for his sake😳...if not for the millions of fans who look up to him, that this incident like you said was genuine passion,😳 desire 😳on part of both parties....not out of obsession and certainly not something horrific as rape...

i hope i am not sounding...all confused now...dear...😳

sammy😛

Oh no, crystal clear dear friend. I too feel like sharmii that this is all his nightmare. But then I don't trust Shreya.....

Originally posted by: Sharmii

And one point I totally disagree...Adi and dev are Friends?? No way....Yeah If dev suspsected kaajjal he owes kaaju an explanation but not adi.I dont see him indebted to adi cause I feel dev never liked adi that much in the first place.He just tolerate him for kaajjal and thought of him as a good human being!! So please dont expect dev to understand adi...yup but better expect him to understand kaajjal!!

sharmii...please read...my post....i said...if aditya and kaju had really been childhood freinds than it was undertsanable😕...nothing about dev and adi being friends...😃

but they are not and i fully second your views..dev just tolerate him badly as he so called helped him...🤢

sammy😕

Thats what I am waiting for Sammy ---today's episode. It all depends on today. And then you can surely hear my piece....