Jyothi is a funny lady

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I absolutely cant stand women like jyothi. She is the same lady who marched n raised voice against injustice to her sister from an abusive husband ,saying big dialogues like women rights,self respect blah blah ...and now where has all that gone away . Why does she not back answer choti maa and her daughter meenal ..when they tried insulting her family ,n speaking ill of her intentions and her sister's intentions ??????
How dare pankaj says ..she is beti first and then bahu !!!!!!!! ofcourse she is ...how can u not take care of your own family who raised you for 25-30 years of your life ..just because u r a daughter and married to a different household now ???? why should you ?? Even pankaj is married to jyothi ....so is he being son first or son in law ?? what double standard indian serial traditions .

Of all the reasons india should be ashamed of ..this is a major reason ..why people in india die to have a son ..and it is a fact that Female infanticide still exists ...not only in illeterate world but also literates ...who visualise ...sons looking after families and daughters going away ...this is rubbish .
I am sure no one can refuse the fact that ..even till date ,in india it is a criminal case if the doctors tell the sex of the unborn baby during the antenatal scans ...why do u think that is ??? because majority of sick people in our country think it is better to have a son who will carry your name and look after u . shameful !!!!!

I am married too ...me and my husband ..took a house for ourselves ..rather than just blindly moving into his house ..and in our house ,both my parents and his parents ar equally respected and welcomed ...and if the need be ,we will take care of them in our house. we have a child and we gave both our surnames to her .we live happily and have good relations with both our families . we never ever tell our daughter all these nonsense traditions ..with no logic in them .my parents are my responsibilty till i die , even if they have 100 sons ..just like a guy feels his parents are his.

jyothi should have a spine and stand for herself..rather than act like a " $$" cant find a word.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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it was suprising for me too when they finally let jyoti have alot of big dialogues to recite during that epi where she rescues sushma yet again
otherwise your right, all throughout this drama she's stood there taking cr*p from everyone who threw it at her and then went and cried abt it in a corner
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I noticed that as well. When it comes to people not related to her, like Brij, Jyoti doesn't stand for any abuse and gives women of the mohalla a bhashan that drives them to action. When it comes to abusive people within her own families - first Dadi & Padma, and now CM, then she's a grovelling wimp.

And what's w/ her forcing Uday to stay on, after he's been told by CM that she has no relationship w/ him? After the insults CM heaped on Sudha, it's natural that Uday would want to take her away. What exactly is Jyoti upto by insisting that they stay? Tomorrow, they'll show CM preventing Sudha from taking her ceremonial first step into the kitchen. Why is Jyoti subjecting Uday's bride to this (let's forget for the moment that it's her sister) humiliation? What Uday's suggesting is not inappropriate - people after marrying do start their own homes and families, and Uday is perfectly within his rights to want to take Sudha and start his own home and business, where he wont have to endure his bride being insulted.

As for Pankaj, it was he who asked Jyoti to ignore the differences in their societal status and marry him. In that case, why does he put up w/ CM's insults to Jyoti, when it was he who told Jyoti that it's irrelevant? And while it's unfortunate that he's sight impaired, he's blind as well - blind to CM's abuses of Jyoti and the Sharmas just b'cos she was so good to him always. If somebody was that good to me, but mean to others, I'd not be loving her/him, or ignoring the latter part of her/his behavior. Uday, who's just married, is turning out to be a better husband than Pankaj, who's been married for several months. Shame on Pankaj!!!!

Jyoti is a masochist. I hope Sudha becomes Devika again and puts all of them - CM, Jyoti, Minal, in their place, and following that, I hope Uday takes Sudha and leaves that house and goes ahead w/ his plan A.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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guys u may find my reply bit bad but the fact is jyoti did wrong by supporting uday at the wrong time..if she had to be this daredevil then she should have done it before..let me put it this way..how much insult uday's and jyoti's family had to got through.above all uday made jyoti fight it all alone..the hell..i mean u r the one getting married and the one to fight ur battles should be jyoti..there are lot of people who sacrifice their love for their family..why cudnt uday and sudha..for sudha the biggest example has to be her mother(padma) who being a step mpm somehow raised them as their own.otherwise which normal girl wil marry a father of 2 kids.even jyoti fell in love with pankaj after marriage.if they can why cant uday or sudha.uday by just saying that he married sudha becoz of her mental illness is crazy.watzz the guarantee that choti maa's comment or taunt wont turn sudha into devika.from where this jyoti is coming..i even love sudha and udhay but for me my family comes first so they should have sacrificed..and all thanks to sushma.she is one great HELP! sorry if my views r pinching but this time i dont support jyoti..she does wrong thins at wrong time..not for once she scolded udhay and sudha..ahhh..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: kay_123

guys u may find my reply bit bad but the fact is jyoti did wrong by supporting uday at the wrong time..if she had to be this daredevil then she should have done it before..let me put it this way..how much insult uday's and jyoti's family had to got through.above all uday made jyoti fight it all alone..the hell..i mean u r the one getting married and the one to fight ur battles should be jyoti..there are lot of people who sacrifice their love for their family..why cudnt uday and sudha..for sudha the biggest example has to be her mother(padma) who being a step mpm somehow raised them as their own.otherwise which normal girl wil marry a father of 2 kids.even jyoti fell in love with pankaj after marriage.if they can why cant uday or sudha.uday by just saying that he married sudha becoz of her mental illness is crazy.watzz the guarantee that choti maa's comment or taunt wont turn sudha into devika.from where this jyoti is coming..i even love sudha and udhay but for me my family comes first so they should have sacrificed..and all thanks to sushma.she is one great HELP! sorry if my views r pinching but this time i dont support jyoti..she does wrong thins at wrong time..not for once she scolded udhay and sudha..ahhh..


No, you're welcome to air your views.

Last things first - when Jyoti saw Uday applying sindur on Sudha's head, she was shocked, and her first words to them was one of criticism, not support. So your last statement is inaccurate - Jyoti did scold them at first, and when Uday was thinking of leaving w/o going home, she scolded him again. Regardless of what you think of Jyoti, it's wrong to say that she supported their eloping. Yeah, she did sympathize w/ Uday for being miserable @ his impending marriage, but she was fully supportive of that marriage, since it had already been fixed. The only reason Uday called Jyoti in the first place was that Sudha refused to marry w/o the blessings of elders, so Uday picked the person Sudha most worshipped, and asked her to be there. Otherwise, he'd have been perfectly happy to execute this alone. Of course, once they're married, there isn't much she can do other than bless them. When someone goes through sacred rituals and has the blessings of the gods, it's useless and mean to curse them

Second - Uday was not the one who asked Jyoti to bat for him. Padma was the one who went forward and slapped Sudha, and that was Jyoti's to handle. When Jyoti was getting abused by cm, Uday did intervene and tell her that the faults in question were all his, and cm shut him up, told him that their relationship was over, and stormed out of the room. How can you say that he expected Jyoti to argue his case, particularly when he knew how much she's hated by CM.

Also, did you watch the wedding episode? The first half was Sudha refusing to marry him, and insisting that he return - nowhere was she in favor of this. It was only after he told her that if she didn't say yes, he'd just end his life that she started moving his way. Even then, she wanted to wait for an elder to come and bless them, and only went ahead b'cos the pundits insisted that the auspicious moments were all passing. Once that started, it was sorta automatic, and Sudha was married before she even realized it.

And Padma as an example to Sudha? Don't make me laugh!!! She would have done better to refuse to marry KK, instead of treating her 2 neices as dirt, and pampering her son and daughter. I do blame KK for pressurizing Padma into marrying him - that's one thing he did wrong, and boy, is he paying the price. From today, it's all Padma's household - none of Lata's kids are there any more. Padma always hated both Jyoti & Sudha from the bottom of her heart, and resents it whenever she has to be nice to them. Otherwise, when Sudha passed her exams, Padma was the lone voice suggesting that Sudha be given away in marriage and gotten rid of. Well, now Sudha is married and gotten rid of and no longer a burden, so what's her problem?

Also, let's look at this from Sudha's POV. She's been abused all her life, and only after Uday actively entered it has it been looking brighter for her, w/ him giving her bike lessons, taking her to the library, being the lone person who tends to her when she visits his place, et al. Also, how can she ever forget that he saved her from being raped - that alone would have earned him the right to her. Also, had Sudha married someone else, but kept turning into Devika and going back to a married Uday, how would that have been a healthy situation?

And let's look at it from Uday's POV as well. He's been dating Devika, started having doubts about her, and started liking Sudha. Already, his family and Sudha's family have a marital bridge b/w them in the form of Pankaj & Jyoti. He admires Jyoti for marrying Pankaj despite his handicap, and resolves that he can return the same favor to Sudha. How is this anything but generousity, aside from his love for her? Which other family, knowing Sudha's condition (and they would, since she was in the news) would accept her? Uday didn't even dishonor either family this way, and had it not been for CM's ego and Minal pimping her bro to keep her egotistical FIL happy, this would not even have been an issue. Both KK and Dadi admired Uday, and thought that he'd be a fine suitor for Sudha; the only reason they opposed it recently was b'cos of what they discovered about CM. Similarly, in Uday's family, Pankaj was in favor of it, and MN&G both liked Sudha, and gave her refuge when her own family refused to take her back.

The point here for Uday wouldn't have been sacrificing his love for his family, but allowing himself to be pimped by his sister for that asshold FIL of hers. That's by no means admirable. And Sudha wasn't even guilty of anything - she went there to end things w/ Uday.

As for Jyoti's marriage to Pankaj, that she did b'cos she was at the time vulnerable - otherwise, she never found out anything about his family, and ran into CM when it was too late. If anything, I'd say that Jyoti's marriage to Pankaj, or even Jyoti's marriage in the first place, has been a mistake, as she's always obsessed over Sushma and getting her away from Brij, and at the same time, not telling her in-laws about her.

Finally, Sushma. Given how she stole Brij from Jyoti, it would normally have been surprising that she didn't target Uday, but then again, there isn't much you can do when you're pregnant. But I'm glad that she did what she did, b'cos otherwise, Sudha would have just let Uday go, Uday would have gone, and Sudha would have relapsed and probably died very quickly.
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No, you're welcome to air your views.

Last things first - when Jyoti saw Uday applying sindur on Sudha's head, she was shocked, and her first words to them was one of criticism, not support. So your last statement is inaccurate - Jyoti did scold them at first, and when Uday was thinking of leaving w/o going home, she scolded him again. Regardless of what you think of Jyoti, it's wrong to say that she supported their eloping. Yeah, she did sympathize w/ Uday for being miserable @ his impending marriage, but she was fully supportive of that marriage, since it had already been fixed. The only reason Uday called Jyoti in the first place was that Sudha refused to marry w/o the blessings of elders, so Uday picked the person Sudha most worshipped, and asked her to be there. Otherwise, he'd have been perfectly happy to execute this alone. Of course, once they're married, there isn't much she can do other than bless them. When someone goes through sacred rituals and has the blessings of the gods, it's useless and mean to curse them

Second - Uday was not the one who asked Jyoti to bat for him. Padma was the one who went forward and slapped Sudha, and that was Jyoti's to handle. When Jyoti was getting abused by cm, Uday did intervene and tell her that the faults in question were all his, and cm shut him up, told him that their relationship was over, and stormed out of the room. How can you say that he expected Jyoti to argue his case, particularly when he knew how much she's hated by CM.

Also, did you watch the wedding episode? The first half was Sudha refusing to marry him, and insisting that he return - nowhere was she in favor of this. It was only after he told her that if she didn't say yes, he'd just end his life that she started moving his way. Even then, she wanted to wait for an elder to come and bless them, and only went ahead b'cos the pundits insisted that the auspicious moments were all passing. Once that started, it was sorta automatic, and Sudha was married before she even realized it.

And Padma as an example to Sudha? Don't make me laugh!!! She would have done better to refuse to marry KK, instead of treating her 2 neices as dirt, and pampering her son and daughter. I do blame KK for pressurizing Padma into marrying him - that's one thing he did wrong, and boy, is he paying the price. From today, it's all Padma's household - none of Lata's kids are there any more. Padma always hated both Jyoti & Sudha from the bottom of her heart, and resents it whenever she has to be nice to them. Otherwise, when Sudha passed her exams, Padma was the lone voice suggesting that Sudha be given away in marriage and gotten rid of. Well, now Sudha is married and gotten rid of and no longer a burden, so what's her problem?

Also, let's look at this from Sudha's POV. She's been abused all her life, and only after Uday actively entered it has it been looking brighter for her, w/ him giving her bike lessons, taking her to the library, being the lone person who tends to her when she visits his place, et al. Also, how can she ever forget that he saved her from being raped - that alone would have earned him the right to her. Also, had Sudha married someone else, but kept turning into Devika and going back to a married Uday, how would that have been a healthy situation?

And let's look at it from Uday's POV as well. He's been dating Devika, started having doubts about her, and started liking Sudha. Already, his family and Sudha's family have a marital bridge b/w them in the form of Pankaj & Jyoti. He admires Jyoti for marrying Pankaj despite his handicap, and resolves that he can return the same favor to Sudha. How is this anything but generousity, aside from his love for her? Which other family, knowing Sudha's condition (and they would, since she was in the news) would accept her? Uday didn't even dishonor either family this way, and had it not been for CM's ego and Minal pimping her bro to keep her egotistical FIL happy, this would not even have been an issue. Both KK and Dadi admired Uday, and thought that he'd be a fine suitor for Sudha; the only reason they opposed it recently was b'cos of what they discovered about CM. Similarly, in Uday's family, Pankaj was in favor of it, and MN&G both liked Sudha, and gave her refuge when her own family refused to take her back.

The point here for Uday wouldn't have been sacrificing his love for his family, but allowing himself to be pimped by his sister for that asshold FIL of hers. That's by no means admirable. And Sudha wasn't even guilty of anything - she went there to end things w/ Uday.

As for Jyoti's marriage to Pankaj, that she did b'cos she was at the time vulnerable - otherwise, she never found out anything about his family, and ran into CM when it was too late. If anything, I'd say that Jyoti's marriage to Pankaj, or even Jyoti's marriage in the first place, has been a mistake, as she's always obsessed over Sushma and getting her away from Brij, and at the same time, not telling her in-laws about her.

Finally, Sushma. Given how she stole Brij from Jyoti, it would normally have been surprising that she didn't target Uday, but then again, there isn't much you can do when you're pregnant. But I'm glad that she did what she did, b'cos otherwise, Sudha would have just let Uday go, Uday would have gone, and Sudha would have relapsed and probably died very quickly.

what a analysis you have done. I really donot like Jyoti - Pankaj chemistry these day.Sudha-Uday are a better couple they know each other better. Pankaj was somewhere right as reffering Jyoti good beti bad bahu.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I have been disappointed with Pankaj from the day after Jyoti's marriage. Sometimes I wonder if he even remembers the promise he made to Kalpana's mother, about how he promised to take care of Jyoti despite him being blind. In comparison, Uday makes a much better husband. Atleast he had the guts to stand up to his mother and put her in her place. And I am even more disgusted with Pankaj after his atrocious dialogues in yesterday's episode. It seems like he's turned into a mini-CM... esp his 'beti first, then bahu' comment. Pathetic.
I don't know if I should even get started on Jyoti, because her silence in front of people like Padma, CM, Dadi bugs me more and more each day. Ok, she doesn't mind getting verbally bashed everyday from CM - but do you really want your sister to have as miserable a life? I don't even understand why Sudhay took her advice and decided to go home at all, I'm sure things would've been less dramatic if they had showed up later.
For now, I am PRAYING that no one stops Sudhay from leaving, because they are definitely going to be a lot happier living seperately. Look at Jyoti, she got married to Pankaj, into a big family, but her life seems the most terrible. Sudha is lucky to have a husband like Uday who can stand up for her and decided to move out. The new promo abt Brij returning shows a party at the Vashisht house with Sudha still there, so I'm not sure if they were actually able to leave yet.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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people i am sorry iu didnt like my comments specially pushpak..i just kerpt my views not ana analyisis..sorry..u all r scary me..but sorry agaim
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Kay_123

Don't take my comments personally - they weren't so much directed at you, as much as the arguments offered by characters in the show that Uday & Sudha were dishonoring their families. That doesn't mean that you ain't welcome to your views.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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yep, i must say Pankaj really REALLY let me down big time
if he wanted to accuse Jyoti of all these things abt always helping her family before Sasural then he should have done it before
he's doing it when his little brother went and married Sudha of his own free will
so thats like blaming Jyoti for Suday's love and marriage as well as the above accusation
wasnt it Pankaj all along that helped Jyoti see that Suday are truly in love and should be together and wasnt Pankaj the one who helped Uday realise his love for Sudha in the first place?
i expected him to be by Uday's side all the way

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