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Posted: 9 years ago
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shyamala dearest brilliant yet again! please do not over stress your fingers although these pearls of writings of yours are so addicting that once you start reading can't stop until finished! i loved the way you explained the wall pinning scene and the hamaam scene😉..uff our naughty jalal what can we do about him☺️..btw shyamala our rajat is coming as chandragupta maurya! pl share your reaction and views on it and please sharpen your skills on CGM! when the show starts our rajat will mesmerize us yet again in another magnum opus!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ghalibmirza

shyamala dearest brilliant yet again! please do not over stress your fingers although these pearls of writings of yours are so addicting that once you start reading can't stop until finished! i loved the way you explained the wall pinning scene and the hamaam scene😉..uff our naughty jalal what can we do about him☺️..btw shyamala our rajat is coming as chandragupta maurya! pl share your reaction and views on it and please sharpen your skills on CGM! when the show starts our rajat will mesmerize us yet again in another magnum opus!



Unfortunately, on reflection this news does not excite me. Rajat will once again be king, so he will have three king roles in his resume. I hope such a great actor is not remembered mockingly as the "king wala actor". Look at poor Govinda, a good actor(look at his performance in Hatya) but he will forever be remembered as the actor of vulgar comedy movies. He has been type cast and he is stuck.

In a world so full of great roles what was the need for another king role by Rajat. It is not as if Chandragupta Maurya is an awe inspiring never done before story. It was done just a few years back(on Imagine and lasted for 100 episodes). I was bored to death and made a vow never to watch any Hindi language program again. It is for this reason that I started so late on JA.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I wish to write on "fear conditioning". I think it is appropriate in the present context. I believe one of the reasons for the game Jalal played with Jodha was this desire to modify her fear response. These are the following he may have wanted to affect-
1. By bringing her in close physical proximity, without all that glitz of fine jewelry and clothes, he wanted to show her that he is just a normal flesh and blood man, not much different from her cherished Suryabhan. In that state it is easy to see, that all differences vanish and a man becomes just human, not Mughal or Rajput.

So this fear was the fear of the strange man with strange customs.

2. The other fear was of course fear of proximity. He got her close in that undressed state, so that next time he gets close to her she won't be so affected as before. After all the next time he will be fully clothed and she would have been used to seeing much more of him than visible.

Of course the romantic angle is also there and that has been explained very well by Shaymala.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Akka - looks like CGM may be the next Rajat's Project - Hope you do get well so soon so you can do magic with CGM again.

Truly speaking, this JA things has become stale for me. It did become due to treatment.

Your writing is the only positive outcome of that now. But you should rest and be ready to strike for CGM . 😆

Helen - CGM is coming to catch your breath. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas

I wish to write on "fear conditioning". I think it is appropriate in the present context. I believe one of the reasons for the game Jalal played with Jodha was this desire to modify her fear response. These are the following he may have wanted to affect-
1. By bringing her in close physical proximity, without all that glitz of fine jewelry and clothes, he wanted to show her that he is just a normal flesh and blood man, not much different from her cherished Suryabhan. In that state it is easy to see, that all differences vanish and a man becomes just human, not Mughal or Rajput.

So this fear was the fear of the strange man with strange customs.

2. The other fear was of course fear of proximity. He got her close in that undressed state, so that next time he gets close to her she won't be so affected as before. After all the next time he will be fully clothed and she would have been used to seeing much more of him than visible.

Of course the romantic angle is also there and that has been explained very well by Shaymala.



Is there something like this also ? A very different POV. Even Script writer and CV's would not have thought through.

I feel these JA episodes are being washed like that poor cloth in Ek duje ke liye because there is no other good show.

But CGM is coming Donjas.

😃 With Rajat and a thunder bolt beauty of course. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Is there something like this also ? A very different POV. Even Script writer and CV's would not have thought through.

I feel these JA episodes are being washed like that poor cloth in Ek duje ke liye because there is no other good show.

But CGM is coming Donjas.

😃 With Rajat and a thunder bolt beauty of course. 😆


Unfortunately I have very little interest in CGM. Rajat will be coming back as surprise, surprise! 'A king'. Adding this stint to work already done, he will have played a king longer than most actual kings ever ruled.

As if all other roles in the world have dried out.

What a waste of talent!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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You are welcome, Mitali.. I hope you liked the post and the two episodes too!

Shyamala Aunty

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank you so much, my dear Pari, but do watch the episodes as well. Words can never replace the vsuals, and these were both very good episodes.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: 155pari

As always shyamala aunty... Your review was just splendid... I haven't watched these episode but I got the whole drama, the actors expressions by reading this... Thankyou!

And yes thanx for the pm too😊.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank you, my dear Lavanya, for such a clear-headed and comprehensive set of comments on these two very good episodes.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sabdabhala



IT WAS UNEXPECTED BUT WELCOME BONUS TO SEE YOUR POST TODAY, AUNTY 😊

I REALLY ENJOYED WATCHING THE EPISODES AND REASING YOUR ANALYSIS

THIS TIME, FRANKLY, I HAVE NOTHING MUCH TO ADD TO YOUR SPLENDID ANALYSIS, EXCEPT A FEW MINOR POINTS -


JODHA FIRST


WHEN JODHA ALREADY HAD IT IN HER MIND THAT HAVING DONE THE SUPREME SACRIFICE TO SAVE HER BELOVED AMER, SHE WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE RELEGATED AS A NOBODY IN THE HAREM, WHY WAS SHE ANNOUNCING IT TO EVERYONE WHO WOULD LISTEN?

FIRST HER COMMENT ABOUT KROOR JALAL TO HAMIDA WAS QUITE UNSUITABLE, AND NOW, SHE GOES ON TO TELL RUKKAIAH, IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, THAT SHE DOES NOT WANT THE SHAHENSHAH TO EVEN GLANCE AT HER OR THINK ABOUT HER? 😡

IF A NORMAL PERSON WOULD LIKE TO AVOID SOMEONE, THE NORMAL WAY WOULD BE TO AVOID ALL KIND OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF AVOIDANCE. BUT HERE, OUR DEAR JODHA RAVES AND RANTS ABOUT JALAL TO NONE OTHER THAN THE HOITTY TOITTY RUKKAIAH, WHO, AS PER THE HAREM GRAPEVINE IS CLOSEST TO THE SHAHENSHAH 😡

FIRST THE MOTHER IN LAW AND THEN THE CHIEF CONSORT AND BEST FRIEND 😆

AND THEN, AS YOU RIGHTLY POINT OUT, WHEN JALAL HEARS ABOUT IT AND COMES TO HER IN A FRENZY OF RAGE, SHE CRIES LIKE SHE IS DEVASTATED. 😆 EVEN THOUGH THE SCENE WAS A PLEASURE TO WATCH, WHAT WITH ALL THE HIGH VOLTAGE DRAMA, I DO THINK THAT THE CVS WERE A BIT CONFUSED, OR, AT THE VERY LEAST, JODHA CERTAINLY WAS 😆

AND THE VEIL AND THE CURTAINS WERE ACTUALLY HILARIOUS 😆


JALAL

YET AGAIN, JALAL IS CONSUMED WITH RAGE AT BEING SPURNED BY JODHA. AND THIS TIME HIS RAGE IS UNCONTROLLABLE. BECAUSE ON EARLIER OCCASIONS, HE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS PRIVY TO THE ACT OF SPURNING, BUT NOW, HE HEARS THAT JODHA ACTUALLY HAD THE AUDACITY TO SPEAK TO RUKKAIAH ABOUT THIS.

NOT ONLY THAT THIS GIVES RUKKAIAH A CHANCE TO TAUNT HIM ABOUT HIS DECISION TO MARRY JODHA, VERY SOON EVERYONE IN THE HAREM WILL ALSO LEARN ABOUT THIS.

NO WONDER THEN ,THAT HE BARGES INTO HER HOJRA, TEARS THE CURTAIN, SCREAMS AT HER, HURTS HER PHYSICALLY AND TAUNTS AND REJECTS HER EMOTIONALLY


MAHAM


I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOUR POINT THAT, AS OF NOW, IN AGRA, MAHAM IS THE ONE WHO IS MOST ASTUTE, PERCEPTIVE AND INTELLIGENT AMONG EVERYONE.

JALAL, WHEN JODHA IS NOT AROUND HIM OR IN HIS THOUGHTS, DOES RUN A CLOSE SECOND. BUT THE POOR GUY IS QUITE SEVERELY CRIPPLED COZ OF THE NAVET AND IDIOSYNCRACIES OF HIS LATEST BEGUM 😆 AND ALSO BY HIS RESPONSES TO HER ACTIONS, I MIGHT ADD.


AND NOT ONLY IS MAHAM BLESSED WITH THE ABOVE QUALITIES, SHE HAS YET ANOTHER SUPERB STRENGTH - SHE IS ALWAYS AT THE RIGHT TIME AT THE RIGHT PLACE


RUKKAIAH


HER INTERACTION WITH JODHA LED ME TO BELIEVE THAT SHE IS EXTREMELY INSECURE. EVEN THOUGH MAHAM IS THE ONE WHO SAYS TO ADHAM THAT SHE FEARS JODHA'S PRESENCE IN AGRA, BUT, I FEEL THAT IT IS RUKKAIAH WHO DISPLAYS THIS FEAR, MORE THAN MAHAM


HER TETE A TETE WITH JODHA, HER IMMEDIATE REPORTING OF THE INCIDENT TO JALAL, ALONG WITH HER TUPPENCE ON JODHA'S BEADABI AND JALAL'S BEIZZATI, ALL THESE ACTIONS TELL US THE TALE OF HER INSECURITY, ALBEIT, HEAVILY MASKED BY HER SELF CENTEREDNESS AND VANITY


MAAN SINGH


HE SHOULD CERTAINLY LEARN TO SMILE MORE OFTEN. AND HE COULD HAVE HAD BETTER EXPRESSIONS WHEN JALAL LETS HIM OFF THE HOOK, AND ACTUALLY OFFERS TO KEEP MAAN UNDER HIS TUTELEGE. FOR HOWEVER MUCH SURAKSHA HE DOES TO HIS BUASA, HE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH, WHEREAS THIS GENEROUS OFFER FROM THE SHAHENSHAH CAN CERTAINLY ADD IMMENSE VALUE TO HIM AS A WARRIOR


HAMAAM SCENE


😳😆 WHAT CAN I ADD TO THE ENTIRELY DROOLWORTHY SCENE, AND THEN TO YOUR EXTREMELY APT DESCRIPTION OF IT


JALAL LOOKED ABSOLUTELY YUMMY, WHILE JODHA LOOKED LIKE SHE HAD SMELT A DEAD RAT RIGHT UNDER HER NOSE

I LOVED JALAL'S EXPRESSIONS JUST WHEN HE REALIZED THAT JODHA HAD COME TO MEET HIM- PRICELESS. IT WAS ALMOST LIKE TO SCENE OF LAST NIGHT NEVER HAPPENED

YES HE WAS OUT OF THE EFFECTS OF ALL THE MADIRA THAT HE CONSUMED LAST NIGHT AND SO, HERE HE WAS, GIVING INTO HIS BEGUM'S DESIRES

THANKS SO MUCH AUNTY, THAT YOU TAKE SO MUCH EFFORT DESPITE E PAIN


LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR NEXT POST EAGERLY AUNTY

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank you, Alakh dear.

Shyamala Aunty

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