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Posted: 10 years ago
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Shyamala, long back when we had discussed Ruqaiyya and Smiley's rendition - I had said that Ruqaiyya never put her soul into her relationship with Jalal (not that EK's version of Jodha did it anyway😡) - but this does come thru in their interactions. Ruqaiyya loves Jalal no doubt, but does so for what he symbolises for her - so her wanting his Mohabbat / Isha / to be the Soulmate - would have had a greater impact if she too had invested the same for him - she has his trust and his friendship and she comes first among all his friends and that is, as you say far more than what she later says she wants - we choose our friends becoz they are a mirror for us - and becoz perhaps true friendship is the rarest gem as 'true love' is but has a greater chance for occurring than the other.

Definitely this Ruqaiyya is one of the best female characters written in any Indian tv show with so many layers that its a pleasure to watch her and with this multi-layered Jalal their interactions are brilliant - unfortunately to make the story as that of Hero-Heroine-Vamp with the entry of Jodha, EK ended up making all 3 uni-dimensional and what a tragic loss to us audience that was!!!!!

In fact, it would have been brilliant if they had made all 3 - Ruqs, Salima and Jodha as 3 multi-layered characters each coming with their own cultural perspectives and life experiences and expectations in a Royal marriage and each becoming the Emperor's Chief Queen and learning to LIVE life with each other and all others as well - the feminine perspectives that could have been woven into the story would have been very very interesting - Ruqs with her orthodoxy and political shrewdness, Salima with her tolerance and maturity and Jodha with her boldness and passion - wallah what a tale we could have got
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: adiana12

Shyamala, long back when we had discussed Ruqaiyya and Smiley's rendition - I had said that Ruqaiyya never put her soul into her relationship with Jalal (not that EK's version of Jodha did it anyway😡) - but this does come thru in their interactions. Ruqaiyya loves Jalal no doubt, but does so for what he symbolises for her - so her wanting his Mohabbat / Isha / to be the Soulmate - would have had a greater impact if she too had invested the same for him - she has his trust and his friendship and she comes first among all his friends and that is, as you say far more than what she later says she wants - we choose our friends becoz they are a mirror for us - and becoz perhaps true friendship is the rarest gem as 'true love' is but has a greater chance for occurring than the other.

Definitely this Ruqaiyya is one of the best female characters written in any Indian tv show with so many layers that its a pleasure to watch her and with this multi-layered Jalal their interactions are brilliant - unfortunately to make the story as that of Hero-Heroine-Vamp with the entry of Jodha, EK ended up making all 3 uni-dimensional and what a tragic loss to us audience that was!!!!!

In fact, it would have been brilliant if they had made all 3 - Ruqs, Salima and Jodha as 3 multi-layered characters each coming with their own cultural perspectives and life experiences and expectations in a Royal marriage and each becoming the Emperor's Chief Queen and learning to LIVE life with each other and all others as well - the feminine perspectives that could have been woven into the story would have been very very interesting - Ruqs with her orthodoxy and political shrewdness, Salima with her tolerance and maturity and Jodha with her boldness and passion - wallah what a tale we could have got


@red: That was the biggest tragedy of this so called epic lubb story. Ultimately only the viewers ended up loving Jalal the way he deserved to be loved.

@blue: And Jalal with a combination of everything.😳 ( Not the yes ma'am buddhuram😡)


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Posted: 10 years ago
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hey Shyamalaji
thanx for the pm.
i think ruqqaiya was the most interesting character of the serial. she had more shades to her character than anyone else that is before they ripped her character apart completely and turned her into a vamp.
she was strong yet vulnerable. powerful yet weak. what touched me the most about her character was that even though she was surrounded by people she was just as lonely as jalal was. that is something i found very different about the character of jodha and ruqqaiya. even though both were jalals wives and powerful queens yet somehow jodha managed to find peace n contentment even before falling for him in his harem whereas ruqqaiya always was alone. she always was busy holding on to her position as BEK that she somehow lost sight of everything else.
i also think that more than her overconfidence it was her refusal to be seen weak in front of jalal that made her make him wait n ignore him at times just to prove to herself n him that he was not the center of her universe like everyone else.
i think mixing friendship and love in a single relationship always calls for trouble as u end up losing one or the other. later after jodhas arrival in his heart jalal managed to draw the clear lines between friendship n love but ruqqaiya failed to do so ( i can understand not very easy to do).
ruqqaiya was a regal, no nonsense, dignified queen at the beginning of the serial. as for the harem staff well what can we say nearly all be it moti, hoshiyar or any tom, dick and harry could walk in any time and say anything in the serial. its a wonder that the only one not shown commiting these blunders was resham...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

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100 likes for this comment. 😆 really aunty I don't remember to like even if thts the best post on rajat. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Shyamala, At last the much awaited and talked about post on Smiley's Ruqaiya. I for one could not remember her interactions in the detail you have described so I actually did go back and watch her interactions with Jalal in all 3 episodes you have covered. Thank you Anjali for the Links!

I am afraid Shyamala, I may have to deviate a bit from your take on Smiley and her Ruqaiya. I do feel your powerful writing and outstanding understanding of human relationships have elevated the Jalal and Ruqaiya bond to a far loftier level than depicted in the show. Especially in the case of Smiley's Ruqaiya

Smiley Suri as Ruqaiya: I agree with Donjas in that Smiley does not really impress me as an actress. Her Dialogue delivery is terrible. She was given some very powerful dialogues:

"Ruqaiya ke dil aur Sultanat-e-Agra mein aapka istaqbaal hai Shahenshah!"

" Ek to aurat, doosri jawaan, teesri Mughaliya Sultanat ke Shahenshah ki dil-o-jaan.. Zid hamara haq hai. "

Both very outstanding dialogues delivered with a Punjabi accent and all the wrong inflections!! I agree with Donjas in that assessment. Perhaps it easier for me as punjabi to pick this up. Lavinia is a Punjabi too however we never got that impression when she spoke.

Smiley's Ruqaiyya: The Queen of Heads/ Dimaag:

"Rare Avis" - rare bird what a wonderful way to describe Ruqaiya Begum. However the key word you have used for her is "self absorbed". Both Adiana and Devki have aptly put it. there was something amiss in their relationship. For me it was the complete lack of affection shown by Smiley's Ruqaiya. Any affection, indulgence, childhood bond or comfort level shown between the two was demonstrated by Jalal alone. Rajat's jalal was absolutely brilliant in his interactions with Ruqaiyya. It is because of the apparent one sided nature of this relationship , that I cannot agree that "What Ruqaiya has right now with Jalal is perhaps, in one sense, stronger than romantic love.".

I do agree that Smiley's Rukaiyya was enigmatic and Ekta deserves kudos for this character sketch.

Lavinia's Ruqaiya ( early rendition) had many flaws but her affection and loyalty to Jalal came through. To me she was the more humane and a more endearing version of Ruqaiyya even through the fake pregnancy track.

Absolutely loved the scene between Smiley and Jalal in bed . BTW where oh where did his blue Jama go. He looks smashing in it😳😳


The Amer escapade: Loved your take on his " sanitized, Jodha-free account of why he had gone to Amer" - Ha ha . A small but significant snippet as a harbinger of things to come


Unbelievable impertinence: : What can one say about this ongoing violation of the Shehanshah's private moments by all and sundry 😲😲 This continued till the very end

BTW loved your comment on an earlier post about the lack of doors in Agra except for the solid, double doors provided to the assassins Zeenat and her husband 😆😆


Mahaam Anga and Hamida Banu Begum: The analaogy of the hare and the tortoise was brilliant. Sweet and gentle Hamida Banu puts Mahaam Anga in her place effectively when she pointedly refers to her as JAlal's daimaa.

Shyamala I absolutely hated the way Jalal behaved in public with the queen mother of Hindustan Mariyam Makani. It was totally unbecoming of a Mughal Emperor. In Eastern tradition the queen mother's darja is paramount and utmost respect was given to the Emperor's mother. The Mughals were no exception. It is inconceivable for any Emperor to breach this protocol and give deference to his Dai maa at the expense of the Queen mother IN PUBLIC. For Jalal to turn away from her and and tell his Dai maa " Hum ab sirf aap ke hi haath se kheer khayenge" was rude, churlish and totally unacceptable. I am surprised that there has been no outcry about this scene.

I wait in anticipation of the upcoming Shaadi Saptah whith the turbulent entry of "Mhari Jodha" into Jalal's life.😊

Thank you once again Shyamala for all the efforts you put into this

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


@red: That was the biggest tragedy of this so called epic lubb story. Ultimately only the viewers ended up loving Jalal the way he deserved to be loved.

@blue: And Jalal with a combination of everything.😳 ( Not the yes ma'am buddhuram😡)



@ bold: That goes without saying Sands - only then would Jalal be able to handle his troika of Chief Queens - or they would just run circles around him 😉😆 - I can definitely imagine a Jalal who is a combination of everything with his troika of queens 😎
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

The Queen of Heads: Or to be precise, one head, or dimaag, that of Jalal.

For Ruqaiya Begum is that rara avis, a woman who can hold not just a man, but an emperor, effortlessly. Not by her beauty, for that is no more than passable, but by her intelligence, her political shrewdness, and her total self-possession. Plus the fact that thanks to a lifetime of knowing him, she can read his mind like an open book. Jalal must be having a lot of affection for her, as much as he can have for anyone, but as he says, the vital point is not that she is his wife, but that she is his friend. And he has very few friends.

She literally overflows with self-confidence. She does not yell at the baandis. When she tosses a necklet to a baandi as a gift for giving her the good news that the Shahenshah has reached Agra at long last, it is with queenly condescension. She does not, like the other begums, run around like a chicken with its head cut off just because the Shahenshah has come home after a long time.She does not even rise till he reaches the palace. Then she sweeps thru the corridors with long, confident, almost mannish strides.

NB: I saw some complaints about Ruqaiya's simple dressing style as not befitting the Padshahi Begum. My take on this is the exact opposite. She is so confident of her allure and her hold on Jalal, plus she wants to show the rest that she does not need to do any sajna savarna, or to look like a decorated Christmas tree to gain and retain the emperor's attention and regard. It is a deliberate put down of the rest.

And no, she is not going to the balcony to greet the Shahenshah and try and catch his eye, for she does not have to try for anything. Instead, she goes first to set up a live chessboard in her hoojra, arranging the pieces in exactly the same positions in which they were when Jalal had last departed leaving a game unfinished. She wants to win that unfinished game, and also she wants to show him, without saying so, that she remembers every tiny detail of their time together.

NB: I am a Harry Potter aficionada, and as soon as I spotted her chessboard, I thought of The Chamber of Secrets and the board there, but the exact parallel is the chessboard in the palace at Fatehpur Sikri, where too the game was played with live pieces. I should think that it would be more difficult than normal chess, as one cannot get an overall look at the board before making a move.

Then, and then alone, is it time to show herself in the balcony. Just when the other begums have finished squabbling for positions, Ruqaiya Sultan Begum makes her grand entry, like the star model in a fashion show today.

There is the arrogant gliding walk - like a model on the catwalk - with which she slides past all the simpering females who line the upper terrace for a glimpse of their lord and master. Her enigmatic smile would have delighted Leonardo da Vinci, and it is reflected in Jalal's own responding half smile, amused and eager at the same time.

He stands still, and it is telling that regardless of all those begums of his lining the balcony wall, many of them far better looking than she is, Ruqaiya still ensures that Jalal's eye not only catches hers, but stays with her right until she glides back and out. It is a delightful display of silken control, and no wonder the other aspirants to imperial attention turn a delicate shade of pea green!

Zid hamara haq hai: When Jalal, having shaken off the importunate attentions of his desperate begums, appears in her chambers, it is characteristic of Ruqaiya that she does not run to him and fawn over him. She stays where she is for one long minute, leaning back against the bolster, her left arm negligently outstretched. Clearly the lady has Attitude with a capital A. Especially when she is smoking a hukkah, with ease and elegance.

But when she rises to greet him , her words are calculated to rob this delay of any offence: Ruqaiya ke dil aur Sultanat-e-Agra mein aapka istaqbaal hai Shahenshah!

She makes Jalal resume the game of chess that he had left unfinished the last time , declaring, when he teases her about being ziddi, Ek to aurat, doosri jawaan, teesri Mughaliya Sultanat ke Shahenshah ki dil-o-jaan.. Zid hamara haq hai. This not said with pretty coquetry, but with unhesitating certainty. He knows her very well, so he is not riled, plus he is a natural, self-assured dominator who, as he says, hates to lose.

I loved the little story he narrated at this point, about how his Khan Baba, when he first got him, as a child, to hold the shamsheer, had asked ki hum sabse pehle kise maarenge. His response was entirely in character: Humari shikast ko, taki wo phir humein dobara na mile. Now he adds, his eyes aglow with determination: Kyonki humein haarna bilkul pasand nahin!

A fine balancing act: Ruqaiya is not one to let this pass unchallenged, for she must be used to fighting with him since childhood to try and stay on top! So she retorts:: Par humein jeet pasand hai.. But as Jalal regards her quizzically, she delivers a tour de force that maintains her stand and yet does not hurt his ego: Hamein jeet pasand hai, isiliye to dil har kar aapko jeet liya hai. The lady is clearly a natural at fine-tuned repartee.

When Jalal makes a good move, her acknowledgement, Yeh to kamaal ki chaal thi, refers as much to his disappearing act, about which she has already found out, as to the chess game. Her unfailing instinct where he is concerned tells her that there is something new in the air.

The Amer escapade: When Jalal finally reveals to her - Aapse kya chupana? Kyonki hum ek shauhar aur begum se zyada achche dost hain - that he had gone to Amer, her eyes narrow as she looks into the distance, and their expression is hard to read. He is leaning forward, fastening her eyes with his own. Can he read them? She listens to his sanitized, Jodha-free account of why he had gone to Amer - to bait the enemy in his own camp aur dushman ki aankhon mein apni shamsheer se soorma lagane - with a curious little smile. What does she suspect? Perhaps she herself does not know.

Unbelievable impertinence: Meanwhile, Ruqaiya has won the chess game, and has dismissed the baandis. Jalal, for all his junoon for winning, does not seem to mind losing to Ruqaiya. Perhaps he Is used to it! He approaches her with obvious intent, but at this potentially romantic point, Hoshiyaar barges in, with an incoherent account of the infighting in the harem for which this was neither the time nor the place.

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Sandhya was pleased that Jalal scorches him with a sideways look for referring to Pinaaz Begum without the suffix, but I for one could not understand how Hoshiyaar had the gall to barge in on the Shahenshah and his sabse chaheti begum when they are tanha. It was the most colossal impertinence, and clearly he dares to do it because he knows that Ruqaiya will not mind. And it seems that Jalal did not mind it too much either, once Pinaaz was properly referred to as a Begum. This I found unsettling, for it is good neither for Ruqaiya, nor for Jalal, to allow such free and easy ways to be adopted towards him even by a khwaja sera.

Jalal on Ruqaiya: What he goes on to say seems calculated to boost Ruqaiya's already sizeable ego even further. That he had ignored all the other harem inmates clustering around him and had instead come to Ruqaiya jaan boojhkar, kyonki tum in sab se alag ho.. Ruqaiya's chin goes up and she smiles with evident pleasure.. Jalal continues with unconscious arrogance : Unka jism, unki khoobsoorti, humein khush to kar sakti hai, par humein samajh nahin sakti.. Ek tum hi ho jo humein bachpan se jaanti ho aur samajhti ho.. a crooked, mischievous smile twists his mouth.. hamari sabse chaheti begum...

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Ruqaiya looks pleased, but also conveys the impression that this is no more than her due!

Aur humein tum par aitbaar hai.. which is truly a compliment. But she hardly heeds it, focussing instead on offering him his favourite scent.

Now come a kind of rapid fire round that showcases Ruqaiya's resources of intelligence, quick-wittedness and sheer articulateness.

Jalal: Hamari har pasand ki khabar hai na tumhein?

Ruqaiya: Wo to hona hi hai.. Aap dost bhi ho, shauhar bhi, aur Shahenshah bhi.

Now Jalal's ever present desire - common to kings and millionaires 😉- to be cared for for himself alone surfaces. His eyes are lambent with both a question and hope: Par hum sab se zyada kya hain?

He has, however, reckoned without Ruqaiya's genius for verbal sleight of hand. She evades a direct answer thru as silken web of words: Dosti kam zyada ho hi nahin sakti. Rahi baat shauhar aur Shahenshah ki, so agar aap shauhar to hum aapki begum, aur agar aap Shahenshah to hum aapki praja ( presumably Ruqaiya knows Hindustani as well, for she should normally have said awaam) .

Jalal is stumped, but will not let go. So he makes another try: Hmm.. Aur tum kya banna chahti ho?

Which gives Ruqaiya her finest opening. Her proud little chin goes up,and her reply is one for the record books: Ek aisi ladki, jiske saamne dost apna dil, shauhar apna imaan, aur Shahenshah apna sar jhuka de!

NB: That this is a straight lift of what the sculptor Sangtarash says (of the plaster of Paris coated Anarkali) in Mughal-e-Azam: Tum ek aaisa buth ho ... jiske kadmo mein sipahi apni talwar, shahenshah apna taj, aur insaan apna dil nikaal ke rakh de, does not lessen any of its impact on us.

Disturbing signs : No wonder Jalal is floored! He says aloud: Subhanallah! His eyes are awash with sensual delight, and moving up to Ruqaiya, he is clearly about to kiss her when Bingo ! Up bobs Hoshiyaar again, bent over double, and this time he beckons to Ruqaiya, who actually leaves to settle a harem dispute! To make matters worse, Ruqaiya, probably feeling that the harem affair might take a while, kindly informs Jalal that they could deal with the unfinished Amer affair at night!

I was floored too, but by this casual attitude towards the Shahenshah-e-Hind displayed by mistress and servant alike. If not the first time, at least the second time Bairam Khan's shagird should have had Hoshiyaar whipped, if not sar kalamofied for his gross impertinence in intruding on the emperor's privacy.

To my great dismay, Jalal does not even react to the second barging in. The glance that he casts at Hoshiyaar would have frozen red hot lava, but he says nothing, not then, nor when Ruqaiya, in effect, dismisses the Shahenshah till the night.

No wonder that when night arrives, Jalal is left twiddling his thumbs for what looks like ages. For us the viewers, it helps that Rajat looks splendid in that new blue outfit, hand behind his back, sleek and loose-limbed. So we do not mind waiting even if he does! 😉

Ruqaiya clearly thinks nothing of keeping the Shahenshah waiting for her for ages, which is not surprising seeing that he does not do what any normal husband or boyfriend would have done, walked off. Jalal's excessive indulgence to those close to him was visible this early. Aazaar achche nazar nahin aate,,,

Crackling chemistry: When she does arrive at long last, what follows is a curious mix.

Of great familiarity, as when he chucks her under the chin and calls her by her childhood nickname,Gatti, which she clearly detests, for she grabs the front of his choga and says: Tum bahut bure ho! , whereupon he grins in delight : Ab yeh hai na hamari bachpan ki dost, hamari Ruqaiya!

Childish squabbles, rooted in the same deep familiarity with each other since childhood, over his not having taken off his jootis. In the end he deliberately rubs the soles of his jootis on the coverlet just to rile her, while she first exclaims in exasperation: Theek hi kehte hain, ki badshah, baaja aur bandar kabhi nahin sudharte..and then finally, Bachche ke bachche hi rahe! Mana karne ke bavazood bhi dekho kya kar diya!

Between her and Jalal, it is not really either check or checkmate, for as of now, they are both playing on the same side- Jalal's. I for one found it wonderful that someone like Jalal could relate so well to a woman, treating her as a confidante and an equal.

I am continually amazed at the degree of indulgence he has for her. Imagine an emperor being kept waiting by his begum, and then being scolded for wearing his joothis in bed and soiling her chadar! That was so much like a wife nagging her husband about leaving wet towels on the bed that I was in stitches. 😉

But there is no demonstrative tenderness between them, they are too used to sparring with each other, like siblings, so they have never seen the need for it. She does not, for example, take his head in her lap, caress his hair and his forehead, or hold him to her. That kind of touchy feely affection is not there. If it had, that would have been an additional bonding element. There seems to be no yearning to be with each other, no sort of passion, no deewangee. At least this seems right now to be there to some limited extent on his side; there is none on hers.

So when Ruqaiya says she is the Shahenshah's dil-o-jaan, she means his attention, his mind, his thoughts. She is probably not used to thinking of him in purely romantic terms, that is in any case tough to do with someone to whom you have given black eyes, pulled his hair, and kicked him in the legs as kids together. She must have been a spitfire then, all overt aggression, not subtle as it is now.

The commentator also says that Ruqaiya is Jalal ki mohabbat. Too much hair-splitting would be pointless here, but the fact is that he is very, very close to her, he trusts her judgement even on political matters (which means an awful lot with such a self-assured man who is also an emperor), plus she keeps him entertained and on his toes. That is a great way of holding a man, even such a powerful one.

To revert, underneath all of the childish nok jhok and the ease born of closeness since their childhood, there is a crackling, lambent, yet easy sensuality between them as she stretches out with her head on his arm, with no shyness or reserve. Who said that friends cannot be lovers as well?

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But not necessarily in love. However I must add that true romantic love, between two who are halves of a whole, is far rarer than it is made out to be, and also less important for the strength of a relationship than loyalty, affection, caring and trust. For one thing, contrary to popular fiction, it almost never lasts very long at the original level. What Ruqaiya has right now with Jalal is perhaps, in one sense, stronger than romantic love.

Ruqaiya's folly: However, even such a strong bond needs maintenance, and methinks she is far too careless about this aspect, and takes her imperial husband too much for granted. He might not react to this now, but one fine day, he will not only jib at it, but he will bolt. That day, the fascinating and self-assured Ruqaiya Sultan Begum will realise that when the sun disappears, darkness engulfs the world.

Marvellous jugalbandi: Rajat's Jalal and Smiley's Ruqaiya, in a series of scenes spread over all the three episodes, play off each other to perfection.

For me, the open sensuality in Jalal's eyes - what I would call bedroom eyes - came as a surprise, and a pleasant change from the cold menace that was the staple in the opening episodes. The sheer mischief and chutzpah so much in display during the Amer escapade popped up but rarely, but to replace it was a cat at a mouse hole look, when he is assessing how much to tell Ruqaiya about Amer, that would have done Rhett Butler proud.

Ruqaiya might be no great beauty, her voice might resember crackling sandpaper, and her dialogue delivery might be flat, but her assured, astute body language, her speaking eyes, and her intelligence make up for that.

Little wonder then, that their scenes together were a rare treat, to be savoured at leisure.

All in all, Smiley's Ruqaiya is the most fascinating woman I have seen on TV in a long, long time, and Ekta's initial writing team should be felicitated for having portrayed her as such an enigmatic, astute and intellectually superior individual. She is clearly an original, and she is an unfailing delight to watch.

Agra and the imperial harem: I felt that the whole purpose of the display of grandeur, the parade thru Agra, the women in the harem fighting for the Shahenshah's nazar-e-inaayat, is to show us where Jalal is coming from and what his real power and status are. The scenes in the Mughal camp at Shalpur, and in Amer, far were relatively simple and unostentatious, but this is the opposite.

The ambience was rich and colourful, whether on the streets of Agra or in the zenankhana. Ruqaiya's chamber was beautiful.

There was a sense of outrage in parts of this forum about what looked like hundreds of assorted females in the harem. It is uncalled for. It is not appropriate to import contemporary sensibilities into 16th century India. I am sure they would be just as shocked by same-sex marriages, or the divorce rates in, say, the US!

The fact is that not just emperors but maharajas as well had hundreds of women in their harems - wives, concubines and lesser mortals - and this till the 19th century. Most of these were political unions, others the result of a passing fancy. The king/emperor, who would be an infrequent visitor to the harem - being often out fighting a war, or surveying his domains - would probably not be able to recognize half of them, if not more!😉 The way Jalal deals with their importunities was funny and revealing.

Either way, there would be only a small number of senior queens, all of royal lineage, and here I suppose it would be three: Ruqaiya, Salima, and then Jodha. No one minded it, neither the princesses concerned, nor their families. It was the norm, that was all.

It is true that to see so many women have no other aim in life but to catch one man's passing attention is depressing, indeed sad, but this is true even today of the girlfriends or trophy wives of rich and powerful men. 😡

Jodha and Amer: I am passing over the whole of Mainavati's little plot and the unintended Jodha-Suryabhan night boat-ride, except to note that Jodha is no ice-maiden. It was not only their earlier tete a tete scene, the boatride too showed a Jodha ready to exchange all sorts of little hints to love with Suryabhan, right down to handholding.

This apart, I really liked Jodha's eager face and her enthusiasm when she dismisses her sisters-in-law's gloomy preparations for a jauhar, asserting instead Humein yahi sochna chahiye ki hamara vijay hoga..Aur hamari yahi soch hamare yoddhaon ke talwar ki dhaar banegi! And again when she wants to rush and convey the good news about the baby on the way to her elder brother.

NB:The funny thing was her saying that her parents would be so delighted at the prospect of having a pota! It seems to not even occur to her to consider the prospect of it being a poti!😉

Sheh par mat nahin: There were at least 2 separate instances where an ongoing power game between two protagonists was suspended at a point.

1) The one between Mahaam Anga and Bairam Khan. After the last round, which the lady won hands down, the stage has shifted from Rajasthan to Agra, and the two are busy keeping pace with the brisk Jalal, each jealously taking care not to be left behind the other. It should have done their cardiac condition some good! 😉

The Malika-e -Azam Hamida Banu Begum tries to get closer to her aloof, even cold son with an affectionate welcome and a bowl of sevaiyyaan. As Bairam Khan, the old khiladi, watches in dismay, Mahaam Anga steals a march on both Hamida Banu and the Khan Baba with her spiel of making herself the food taster, thus gaining Jalal's unstinting appreciation and affection. It is a very clever move, but her adversary has not been knocked out as yet . So check, but not yet checkmate.

It is to be noted that contrary to Bairam Khan's unfortunate tendency to overreach himself, Mahaam Anga is always very careful to pretend, quite ostentatiously, to stay within the role of Jalal's Daimaa. For example, before complying with Jalal's desire to drink the sevaiyyaan only from her hand, she looks across at Hamida Banu Begum for her assent. It is here that her superior tactics stand out, for Jalal would be convinced that she is being all that is proper, besides being apparently ready to die for him, and that is all that counts!

2)The one between Mahaam Anga and Hamida Banu Begum: This is going to end up like the fable of the hare and the tortoise, but the hare, obviously Mahaam Anga, is lengths ahead at this point of time. Nonetheless , Hamida Banu gets a quick rapier thrust in under Mahaam Anga's guard when, while assenting to her giving Jalal the sweet, she notes Agar main uski ma hoon to aap bhi to uski daimaa hain, thus neatly relegating Mahaam Anga to the status of a nursemaid! No lasting damage would have been caused to the target, but it must have provided some temporary satisfaction to the unhappy Hamida Banu. Again, check but not checkmate, not for a while yet.

I am sure you do not want to discuss that ugly scene between the Hindu-hating fanatic, Maham Anga, and that poor cowering cleaner woman wanting to retrieve her Kali Maa amulet. It was clearly meant to flesh out a further aspect of Maham's black heart and soul.

Ok, folks, this is it till Sunday next! Adios!!

Shyamala/Aunty/Akka/Di

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Ruqaiah - she was one of my favourite character in JA before she started acting weird after false pregnancy etc
Smiley's Ruqaiah had a grace- lets not think of acting skills she was good but not great like maham or akbar, buttt buttt that poise, that walk, that stare, that rubab, the command - she was good as malika e mughal sultanat, the first wife of Akbar. And remember this one was hardly 17 years then (because BK died when both Akbar and Ruqaiah was 17 years old). Such command at that age can only come if you are brought up like a princess from birth. She exuded that command and confidence - what you say a Queen or King material.
The Queen of Heads:
Let me start of with the scene when Akbar comes inside- all his other wives(and may be cocubbines) are running to greet him catch his attention dressed in their best. Reminds me of when a boy comes to see a girl in house(traditional) all the house is beautified and girl is best dressed. Its like a new suitor is walking in to his other wives and cocubbines and maids etc. But not for Ruqaiah, for her this is Jalal her friend with whom she played ghoda ghoda, climbed trees to pluck fruits, rolled in mud, had fist fights, painted, went to school etc together(in flashback all this is shown).
There is Ruqaiah waiting in the chess room to play the unfinished baazi - in simple clothes not bothered to welcome him. He comes to her- his best friend, his cousin sister and later his wife. What makes Ruqaiah to play the unfinished chess- one she wants him to know she never forgot the last game that happened many months back. Which other wife would remember such details of game done ages back but a childhood friend. Just think when you meet your childhood friend what does every one do - hey did you remember once we plucked mangoes and fell off tree, hey did you remember we played snake and ladder and i won more etc Ruqaiah is doing the same- her point of reference is childhood not marriage, not husband-wife relation because Akbar has never treated her or wanted her to act like a wife or he is not physically attracted or in love with her. For him she is his childhood friend full stop. In one conversation Ruqaiah talks of dil and love and he says i have no dil, so he learns to rule on his mind than dil.
Now is this her fault that she did not try to get his dil out- not really. See Ruqaiah for Akbar is ghar ki murgi dal barabar. Akbar knows her from birth, played with her, rolled in mud with her, bathed together also may be as kids- there is no real love love of the husband-wife type. Of course as a husband wife they fulfill physical relationship but not with love, no passion, no longing. This is more of great childhood friends together as husband wife.
Zid hamara haq hai:
Of course zid humara haq hai- if i am the shahenshah's playmate, childhood friend, malika and wife any girl will say same dialogue. When two kids play, the younger one does zid and mostly wins. Ruqaiah is the younger kid and wins. She says i never lose - of course as kids either akbar's parents must have told him to allow ruqu the younger kid to win so she does not cry and feel sad and this is reinforced in akbar that lets let ruqu the younger kid win over me to keep her happy.
This shall create problems later because when Ruqu will feel Akbar got a new friend and starts getting of Akbar's new friend who is stealing her time and her playmate it shall be chaos. Then Ruqaiah will use her zid and say i want jodha's baby, i want to be salim's mom etc because all this belongs to her playmate Akbar and Akbar always gave her everything that was his, Akbar always lost to please her
The Amer escapade: When Jalal finally reveals to her - Aapse kya chupana? Kyonki hum ek shauhar aur begum se zyada achche dost hain -
There whatever i was saying so far is actually told by jalal himself - more than wife she is his friend and childhood one. We humans are most comfortable sharing secrets with our childhood buddies is it not? Why? Because our childhood friends know us in and out- we have fought with them, played with them, rolled in mud with them, teachers have punished us in class in front of us, our parents have shouted at us in front of them etc there is nothing to hide from them, they have seen us bare in all emotions so what is there to hide those who know all?
Unka jism, unki khoobsoorti, humein khush to kar sakti hai, par humein samajh nahin sakti.. Ek tum hi ho jo humein bachpan se jaanti ho aur samajhti ho..
Its true- Akbar may go to others for lust or beauty but only Ruqaiah knows him as a 5 year old in tears as his maids dragged him for a bathe which he did not want or only Ruqaiah has seen Humayun or BK scolding or punishing him for mistakes or jalal crying when medicine is forced in his throat by his maids or mom that is bare jalal not the Shahenshah Akbar that he displays to world who is a great warrior who is ruthless emperor etc
Rahi baat shauhar aur Shahenshah ki, so agar aap shauhar to hum aapki begum, aur agar aap Shahenshah to hum aapki praja ( presumably Ruqaiya knows Hindustani as well, for she should normally have said awaam) .
Ok now jalal is giving conflicting signals he mostly wants a friend in Ruqaiah but Ruq is unsure if he wants a wife or a citizen in her so she says that whatever you want i shall try and become. But problem was Ruqaiah failed to realize that she can be his wife if only he wants. When that physical attraction i mean passion is missing why will he want her to fulfill wife role.
That passion and attraction is only reserved for Jodha. You know jodha is that forbidden fruit that was told not to be eaten, so attraction is more. Human always want forbidden what they can never have. And to gain it they shall do it anything, Jalal changed himself from a ruthless warrior, a hot headed man just to get that forbidden fruit jodha.
This is about the serial Ruqaiah.
The historical Ruqaiah had it a bit easier
- She had three emperors who took her advice and respected her and loved her be it Akbar, Jehangir or Shah Jahan
- Akbar was a casanova to the core buttt if you read Shah Jahan's autobiography he says he spent lot of time with Akbar, note that Ruqaiah was his foster mother and he stayed with her till 13-14 years of age. If he spent so much time with Akbar it also means that Akbar visited him often in Ruqaiah's palace. The very fact that Akbar gave Shah Jahan the youngest child of Jehangir to Ruqaiah to bring up as she wanted to bring up an future emperor(and Shah Jahan's astrologer had told he shall be more famous than Akbar and Jehangir- he is because of Taj Mahal) means he adored her. Ruqaiah and Salima influenced over Akbar to make Jehangir the emperor instead of Khusrau. So Ruqaiha had considerable influence on Akbar and Jehangir and Shah Jahan.
- But of course initially she may have felt angry and frustrated at so many women in Akbar's life but she had no option she had to adjust or accept. But she was not only one who suffered this fate all of other Akbar's wives be it Jodha, Salima, Rukmavati etc all underwent this same pain.
Edited by myviewprem - 10 years ago
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My dear Kalgi,

I am delighted that you enjoyed this one so much, undoubtedly due to your having set aside Ruqaiya II!

Oh yes, Rajat in that new blue. He looked wonderful, but I do not seem to remember his wearing it afterwards, though he must have, Ekta's chaps would never waste so much money for one scene!😉

Also, I noted that he does not wear an outer dress at this stage, not even while entering the harem. That makes him look slimmer.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: Kalgi22

Wow!! No words.. It's just splendid Aunty. The very special scene which I like more that too of Ruqaiya is her entry and the mannerism she saw on that particular scene... Just awesome and you've penned it very well with fine description of every move of her. Loved it to the core and Jalal in Blue❤️ How can we forgot?😆

Thank you so much Aunty for this wonderful review!!!😳

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My dear Lavanya,

Thank you so much, my dear. I am very pleased that you liked this one so much.

As for the part in bold, I agree with you. Not just that, Akbar was extremely loath to punish anyone close to him for even the worst gaddari. This was a major weakness in his make-up, that even so many years with Bairam Khan had not eradicated!

I had initially thought of slightly editing my old posts for the same episode and putting them up. But that does not seem to be working, at least for the early episodes. Here, I had, in 2013, written only one for Episode 13, Sheh par mat nahin, which you can see at
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3653462/jodha-akbar-13-sheh-par-mat-nahin
Though I have used some parts of it, you will see that it is very different in structure, and is far less detailed as regards Ruqaiya and the Jalal-Ruqaiya relationship. And this post is 6 ages to 3 for the earlier one. So, at least for now, I am having to do the posts all over again!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sabdabhala



MASHALLAH AUNTY!!! WHAT A POST AND WHAT A BEFITTING TRIBUTE ( FOR WANT OF A BETTER WORD) TO SMILEY'S RUKAIAH

MY INTRODUCTION TO THIS RUKKAIAH WAS VERY LATE, ONLY WHEN YOU STARTED THE FAREWELL POSTS DID I SEE HER. AND I WAS AMAZED. YES, AS YOU RIGHTLY PUT IT, SHE WAS AN AWESOME LOSS TO THE SHOW

THE BEST THING I LIKE ABOUT HER IS HER SPONTANEITY. HER CHEMISTRY WITH JALAL WAS CRACKLING, HER ATTITUDE WITH A CAPITAL A, AS U SAY, WAS KILLER. SHE GAVE THE ROLE AND THE CHARACTER DIGNITY - SOMETHING THAT I SOMEHOW DID NOT FIND IN HER SUCCESSOR

I FULLY AGREE WHEN YOU SAY THAT SHE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST ENIGMATIC LADIES SHOWN ON TV. SHE WAS VAIN, BUT NOT RUDE, SHE WAS A WOMAN WHO FULLY REALIZED HER IMPORTANCE, AND, TO AN EXTENT TOOK IT FOR GRANTED. WALLAH!!

WHAT CAN I SAY ABOUT HER SCENES WITH JALAL - 😳 YOU HAVE DONE FULL AND COMPLETE JUSTICE TO THEM. EVERY COMMENT THAT YOU HAVE MADE ABOUT RUKKAIAH IS BANG ON .

BUT SCENE THAT I LIKED MOST WAS THE ONE BETWEEN MAHAM AND HAMIDA. HAVING NOTICED HAMIDA WAITING THERE EVEN BEFORE JALAL HAD REACHED HER, MAHAM HAD MADE A MENTAL NOTE TO HERSELF THAT SEVVAIYAAN KHILANA WAS THE PREROGATIVE OF A MOTHER, AND HENCE, SHE WAS ALMOST A WOMAN ON A MISSION WHEN SHE SET OUT TO DO THE NEEDFUL

IF ONLY THE LADY PLAYING HAMIDA WAS HALF A GOOD PERFORMER AS ASHWINI WAS, WHAT A SCENE IT COULD HAVE BEEN. BUT ALAS, HAMIDA TOO BELONGS TO THE MONO EXPRESSIONS GANG.

BUT TO GIVE HER CREDIT, I THINK THIS SCENE HAS BEEN ONE OF HER BEST. SHE ALMOST GAVE INTO TEARS, AND YET MAINTAINED HER DIGNITY. AND IN THESE INITIAL SCENES SHE EVEN LOOKED PRETTIER

MAY BE THIS IS A WRONG TIME TO BROACH THIS TOPIC, BUT HAVING OBSERVED JALAL FOR THE BETTER PART OF THE TWO YEARS THAT HE LIT UP OUR SCREENS, I NOTICED, MUCH MORE OFTEN THAN I WOULD HAVE LIKED, THAT HE RARELY CAME BETWEEN TWO WARRING LADIES - EVEN WHEN IT WAS BLATANTLY CLEAR TO ALL OF US THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF HE HAD.😆 CANT REALLY BLAME HIM, WITH A HAREM OF 5000 WOMEN. BUT...

I DO AGREE THAT THIS WAS A TIME WHEN HE ALMOST LOATHED HAMIDA AND LOVED MAHAM, AND THATS WHY HE WENT OUT OF THE WAY TO BE NICE TO MAHAM. BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF HIS APPARENT LACK OF INTEREST IN SORTING ISSUES. SURPRISING, CONSIDERING THAT AFTER THE INITIAL EPISODES, HE SPENT BETTER PART OF HIS TIME IN THE HAREM 😆

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My darling child,

Thank you for liking this one. I knew you would.
What an absolutely beautiful take on the Jalal-Ruqaiya relationship!👏Dil khush ho gaya. Especially the line:
Not that she loved Jalal less, but that she loved what Jalal could give her more.I have read it 3 times already and will soon read it for the fourth time.

I agree with what you have said about Smiley's Ruqaiya not being, no, not pretentious, but devious. She is what she is, whether she is making Jalal wait for her and then seeking to draw an equation between his being mashroof as the Shahenshah and her being mashroof as the Malika in charge of the harem,fighting constant rea rguard battles to stay on top, or melting instantly as his apology, and apologising to him in her turn for her lack of judgement in turning MA away that night. And let us not even go to Mathura and compare her now and Jodha then. It is a waste of time and spoils one's mood.

But it needs empathy to sustain any relationship. Yes, if course,which is what I have gone into in some detail under the head of Ruqaiya's folly. Any relationship, especially a marital one under these special circumstances, needs constant maintenance. Ruqaiya, while longing to have him love her on the one hand, is also mostly bent on retaining and reinforcing the impression, on others, that she is one closest to Jalal.

Perhaps if she had had a child, this focus might have changed.

I also agree with your point that Smiley's version had the effortless queenliness that Ruqaiya II lacked. You would have noticed that I have made this point at considerable length, including that she never raised her voice and was always gracious with the servants.

Yes, she was able to hold her own with Rajat's Jalal at this best, and this despite having no looks to speak of, a voice like a corncrake, and a dialogue delivery as flat as a pancake. She made up for all the not inconsiderable defects thru sheer force of personality, the self-assurance and the ability to dominate effortlessly.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

The post is as charming as Smiley's Ruqaiya was.👏

I started watching from episode 31. So i saw all the initial episodes at a stretch. The impact Smiley's Ruqaiya left on me was so much that i didn't want Jodha to come into Jalal's life at all initially and had a soft corner for Ruqaiya's character throughout inspite of Ruqaiya 2's screeches and saazishes. If you had were as close to someone since childhood and some mahaan came and whisked him away anything is warrented.😆 Afterall, everything is fair in love and war.

But the thing is that Ruqaiya wanted Mohabbat from Jalal too, but didn't express it so as not to offend his dil-less attitude. But she craved for it as was evident in Smiley's last episode. And couldn't stand Jodha receiving what she always wanted and was denied by Jalal. But she ought to have realised that what she had was more special.

As you rightly said their relationship was stronger than romantic attachment . Even as Jodha began to gain entry into Jalal's close circle, Ruqaiya asks him if Jo will take her place to which Jalal replies that nobody can take her place. If only she had trusted him there. Their friendship and trust was even more precious.

Ruqaiya is not pretensious like MA. Even today she is angry with Jalal for scolding her in public and shows her anger by walking out of the hamam khana after catering to his little needs, but when he apologizes for his anger she immediately cuts him and apologizes back for having undemined the seriousness of the situation. That was excellent understanding from both sides ( unlike the Mathura track where truck loads of muaafies were kicked out and there was so much fuss over the 'katu vachan' spoken though Jalal's faults were minimal there and the midnight adventures were brushed under the carpet 😡😡)

The Ruqaiya 2 looked better, even pretty but lacked the queenliness that this one did. The real Ruqaiya was no beauty. So Smiley was so well suited. She was all attitude and assurance, yet there was a genuine affection for Jalal that was visible under all her attitudes.

Lavina had NO self-assurance at all. She looked like having a bp of 200/100 throughout. Smiley never raised her voice but her attitude was sufficient. It achieved what Lavina's screeches could not. The character of Ruqaiya too was diluted later on and the lines lacked the charisma of those in the initial episodes...as you said, Gulzaars were replaced by Taporis...😆...So Smiley had a definite advantage.

The second huge advantage Smiley had was that she was paired with Jalal AT HIS BEST. Could we say that she shone because of him? But she was able to hold her own even inspite of him being at his best. That is no simple thing.

But even with Lavina as with Smiley, Jalal was at his comfortable best. A warmth, a fondness, a closeness was always palpable.

The wiping the joothies on the chadar and the joy in Jalal's eyes as he troubled her was so charming...the complete opposite of what he was with BK after Zaheer. The childishness that he could display only with his childhood friend.

He wanted the change. Hence the visit to Agra before further wars. Ruqaiya offered him a home-coming feeling. He could play with her. He could be enthused by her intelligence ( that pineapple begum and the like were completely devoid of) but above all he could trust her. She was one of his strong pillars. But unfortunately, like the other two, she wanted to be the strongest.

It is here that the smartest slip. It is a good thing to be interested in your lessons and excel in your studies. But when your aim becomes topping the class, the focus shifts and the excellence is diminished. Even though the ranking system does matter, using your intelligence just to stay on the top is never enough. The focus should always be pursuit of excellence. The ranking automatically falls in place. And there is a fulfilment and satisfaction too.

Ruqaiya's emptiness and insecurities stem from her shifted focus. Not that she loved Jalal less, but that she loved what Jalal could give her more. If she had to make a hard choice she would have chosen Jalal for sure, but she never learnt to draw the line between the two. Her choice to settle harem squabbles and making Jalal wait might be her method of looking interesting and important.

But it needs empathy to sustain any relationship. She probably felt that she would sound less interesting if she were trying to reach out to her Ultra-powerful Emperor husband. But Emperor or not he was a husband who needed pampering, a shoulder to rest on and moments of peaceful togetherness. Had Ruqaiya extended that too, she would have been irreplaceable in his life.


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