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Posted: 10 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Donjas




It is not ruthlessness in that other show that I complain, it the undertone of the show. Even the name of the show, gives danger signals. "Bharat ka Mahaan Putra." Did Bharat exist then? And what is Maharana Pratap fighting for in the show, Is it Mewar? or is it India? because at times I really cannot tell. Akbar is depicted at the ruthless foreigner who must be evicted out of India at all costs. Even Salima Begum is not spared in debasement.

The undertone of a brave son of the soil fighting against a ruthless foreigner is so evident that it makes me sad. And believe me Maharana Pratap is a hero for me, he withstood tremendous deprivations for the ideals that he stood for. But this is not the way to show his greatness.


"Bharat" has existed since ancient times. "Hindustan" started later with the Islamic excursions into India.
Son of the soil vs ruthless foreigner. What is wrong with that more realistic depiction?
MP was a native son of the soil and Akbar was just a first generation "Indian" if you will, whose father and grandfather and other outsiders (whether we like to admit or not they were outsiders at that point) waged wars against native kings for land and loot. We are looking at Akbar in retrospect, weighing his good against the not so good and coming to the conclusion that yes, he was an "outsider" but he made this land and people his own and does deserve the epithet of Great.
For people like you, me and most Indians Akbar never was and never will be an outsider but the people who lived at the same time as he did with the memories of previous lootings and plunderings by countless outsiders still fresh in their minds? Yes they would definitely consider young Akbar as a ruthless foreigner.
The thing is, it is difficult to see people we idolize in a negative light and that is why I (like you if I am not mistaken) like Ekta's Akbar. For all his "weakness" he is still very likable IMO. I agree with some of the others that there was room for improvement in the way he was portrayed but I'd rather have it this way than try to show him as a grey shaded multifaceted personality that he was and make him come out looking black instead. Sometimes it is better to let sleeping dogs lie. She decided to focus on Akbar's softer more lovable side and it worked for many of us.
There are certain things that should not have been shown at all like Abul Mali tying Akbar up and the ape man stupidity but I guess there is only so much imagination and creativity we can expect from the CVs.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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everyone excellent views! i just started this post to vent my frustration out the zillionth time i believe just like jalal praises jodha zillion times..ab kuch to seekhna hi tha😉..and to my surprise it has turned into a healthy debate and i am thoroughly enjoying it! i agree to most of the points! yes political reasons the more we think of the more complicated it gets..the involvement of karni sena or as a matter of fact some parties who want votes if not much could have contributed a small percentage in glorifying jodha more than akbar, but again i could be wrong..! and here again i have no objection in the way they showed jodha as jodha was indeed a kind soul but showing akbar weak is not done!

and yes the other reason being the trps is no doubt has major involvement in changing the tracks as per viewer's choice and making it more female oriented and on top of that ekta is well known for female oriented scripts! just like kapil said that ekta by showing all saas bahu jhagde has kept the females busy and outside of tv she shows films with sunny leone to keep the men busy😉..basically more than ethical and moral values she is a business women and believes in making money by hook or by crook...but...here is my another point and i would like to hear from you all...

now in the beginning when the show started how wonderful it was and for the whole year until they showed mirchi war the show was pretty much dominated by akbar's role..not that enough screen space was not given to jodha but akbar's character was shown royal and intelligent..and the trps were sky rocketing! right?..now if the trps then can be so high with equal male dominating tracks then what happened later esp after the major leap?...

i will give you the answer..the answer is poor script writers and less experienced directors ruined the show..i could not recognize akbar, the royal aura was completely missing! even the akhda scenes had no charm in them! now who was controlling these silly tracks?..i think when the trps started to fall zee got impatient and started experimenting ekta's old age formula of heroine doing all the work and being omnipresent...they forgot they are talking about akbar the great and the tracks became bhadd se bhattar!

and after watching th last epi i could not help cribbing over the dialogue where fazal says jodha begum ne kai baar akbar ko maidaane jung mein bachaiya and i was like where are the cvz that have written such pathetic dialogues😡..akbar was a hunter and that is how he started his wars and do you guys think he was taking his wives with him for protection? sheer crap!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Well even in the last episode it was Jodha based n agree cvs never Akbar as great Akbar but Akbar as idle husband ...I want him to portray him like emperor before a lover I thought in the last epi we could see the glance of it along with love story but nope ...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SHADESOFNATURE

Well even in the last episode it was Jodha based n agree cvs never Akbar as great Akbar but Akbar as idle husband ...I want him to portray him like emperor before a lover I thought in the last epi we could see the glance of it along with love story but nope ...



yes! the way he was shown bathing, feet dabaoing, hands dabaoing, and then head dabaoing..it looked kinda cheesy rather than royal! that is why i say script at its worst! only ruqlal scene was apt and a bit dignified..and at the end the soul talk was soulful!..akhda scenes were like camera action without any soul in them! at least SV did put soul in the scenes and also made them look royal but then the script was good too! and all this is missing from long time!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SHADESOFNATURE

Well even in the last episode it was Jodha based n agree cvs never Akbar as great Akbar but Akbar as idle husband ...I want him to portray him like emperor before a lover I thought in the last epi we could see the glance of it along with love story but nope ...


I was fuming while watching the last episodes. They couldn't spare him even at the end. Jalal was poisoned and captured, Jodha came to save him like before. Jalal coming back to Agra and praising her until I got tired of listening and had to put cotton pads in my ears.

Jalal punishes Ruqiya but Jodha is more kind and changes it. After coming back to Agra Jalal has nothing to do than giving bath to Jodha.

The last episode will be cast on monday in my country. Should I watch it or spare myself from hearing more Jodha praising at the Jashan? What are your suggestions?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: fatma201


I was fuming while watching the last episodes. They couldn't spare him even at the end. Jalal was poisoned and captured, Jodha came to save him like before. Jalal coming back to Agra and praising her until I got tired of listening and had to put cotton pads in my ears.

Jalal punishes Ruqiya but Jodha is more kind and changes it. After coming back to Agra Jalal has nothing to do than giving bath to Jodha.

The last episode will be cast on monday in my country. Should I watch it or spare myself from hearing more Jodha praising at the Jashan? What are your suggestions?



do not watch it! only watch ruqlal scene for rajat's mind blowing expressions! and the soul talk for rajat's soulful voice, the rest was like whatever!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ghalibmirza



do not watch it! only watch ruqlal scene for rajat's mind blowing expressions! and the soul talk for rajat's soulful voice, the rest was like whatever!

I saw that for Rajat as an actor not his character
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ghalibmirza



do not watch it! only watch ruqlal scene for rajat's mind blowing expressions! and the soul talk for rajat's soulful voice, the rest was like whatever!


Thanks for the suggestion. I will just FF other scenes. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: fatma201


Thanks for the suggestion. I will just FF other scenes. 😆

Watch it for ruqu scne only
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SHADESOFNATURE

Watch it for ruqu scne only


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