Jodha Akbar 4th March 2015... Post on Akbar on Page-7/DTNTPg8 - Page 4

Originally posted by: jojaparijat

SINDU DI,

I REALLY WANT 2 KNOW D DEFINITION OF LOVE?

IF M NOT WRONG AC. TO SIYASAT,RUK KILLS AKBAR R8??

SO IS RUK KILLING HER OWN HUBBY CAN B TERMED AS LOVE??🤢

SO THIS IS WAT D MOST POWERFUL N BELOVED BEGUM RUK DID TO AKBAR?

PLS EXPLAIN!

Revathi, my definition of love is so different than that of Jalal vs Ruks. I am able to connect more with JJ. I have not watched Siyasat, not planning to watch also , so dont know what goes on there. Read that Ruks along with Salim plots against Jalal.

it was good episode abhay off course minus salim,anar n ruq, in this good akdha centric track i ll treat them as nazarbattus...as u wrote cvs open so many track today just hope they handle all tracks carefully n gv them proper closer...as some forum members in ur this n previous thread questions importance n existence of Jodha in akbar's life i just want to tell them,dnt knw about others bt for me fatehpur sikri ke bejubaan patharo per likhi hui unki prem kahani hi kaafi hai yeh samjhane ke liye jodha akbar ke liye kya thi kitni special or only love of his life...

Originally posted by: jiya.k

it was good episode abhay off course minus salim,anar n ruq, in this good akdha centric track i ll treat them as nazarbattus...as u wrote cvs open so many track today just hope they handle all tracks carefully n gv them proper closer...as some forum members in ur this n previous thread questions importance n existence of Jodha in akbar's life i just want to tell them,dnt knw about others bt for me fatehpur sikri ke bejubaan patharo per likhi hui unki prem kahani hi kaafi hai yeh samjhane ke liye jodha akbar ke liye kya thi kitni special or only love of his life...

@bold: loved it Jiya. I am waiting to go experience that...

Thanks for the Update Abhay. 😆

Today's episode was good. I personally liked it excluding the 'you-know-who' scenes. What I liked a lot today was the visible changed dynamics of the JJ relationship- I have always felt that Jodha has been portrayed as the one edging Jalal to take decisions, but today it was such a nice fresh change to see Jalal pushing Jodha to take a decision with respect to politics.

I have always wondered, what this MUZ ka 'kartavy' is , like what really will they show her doing to fulfill this Kartavy of hers, and I felt this idea of helping out the people seemed extremely novel, and that too as a normal daasi. There was this debate on how no one wants Jodha overshadowing Akbar and all that and I feel today's episode cleared that out. He as an emperor is doing all that he can--> Importing food, sending out help forces, mobilizing help and Jodha is acting as a complementary force not as an opposing force.

The relation of Jodha and Jalal is very beautiful, at least in how it is shown in the show. This couple are at their best, when they support each other, who ever it is Jalal or Jodha. Today Jalal looked brilliant, he did not put his own personal feelings first, he thought of the people and supported Jodha in making the 'right' decision. This did only make Jalal look good but also enhanced the bond that this couple shares.

That last scene showed the evolved realtionship of JJ, it's no more arguments, its debates, its no more opposing views its mutual consent. Every decesion they take is more mature now. In that Aarthi scene, they spoke a 1000 words without speaking, they conveyed a million emotions by just looking at one another, and that what makes this couple soo beautiful. ❤️

In the coming up, I personally feel like Salim has never gotten to know his parents properly, because Jodha going to help out people and Jalal accepting it is what si expected fromt hem. The whole ''Dont you care about you wife'' talk, shows Salim's misinterpration of his Parents all this while. But it's good to hear a hint of care and remorse from his voice regarding his mother after long.

What I would really want to see in this God track is ''Properly scripted relegious debates'', because that will take this track to a whole new level. But I feel like that's expecting too much. 😆

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

Thanks Abhay for the Lovely post...I too am enjoying the current track. JJ support each other, their care for the awaam as a perfect King and queen.

Coming to Akbar and MUZ love story,

• Akbar bestowed 4 titles to MUZ which none of his other wives had. Why would he if he did not have a special interest for MUZ
• Its said in Vincent Smith book Sikri was Romance in stone. We know Jodha had many Palaces and her Palace was connected to that of Akbar.People who visited Sikri also speak highly of it. I will visit in June end.
  
• In Vincent Smith book, there is a page where it is written highly about MUZ. Of course the same book has written about Salima trying to reconcile issues between Salim and AKbar. Its not like Smith ignored MUZ and just talked about Salim birth. I guess we only read or keep what we want and leave the rest...
  
• The most Number of children Akbar had was with MUZ.
• MUZ was buried the closest to Akbar.
• Added to this he encouraged in handling Haj Administration, 12000 cavalry.
  

The above all is sufficient for me to believe that there was a special bonding, love between MUZ and AKbar. Even after 450 yrs if people still talk about.

Last but not the least, we all know and heard lots about Akbar. whats wrong if MUZ is also appreciated here and recognozed along with Akbar. People are interested in both Akbar and JODHA, not just Akbar the Great. If the latter I can very well go read some books.

Thanks for the update. WIll catch episode. :)

Abhay will read and comment...at work now...but one thing is there muz was because of Akbar and not the other way round but in the serial ot looks more like ektanama witg her cliched spices of feminism added in abundance...anyhow will comment later!

Abhay

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

Good update! 👏

Want to point out one line you left out accidentally but which made me very happy esp after all the discussions about Akbar vs MUZ today. 😊 When Akbar tells Jodha that she must go among the people and carry out her farz as the Empress, he says that

"sometimes what the husband cannot do, the wife has to do."

He knows that he is tied to the empire and cannot go out and help the awaam even if he wants to. But Jodha can go and take care of his awaam on their (Akbar + Jodha) behalf and this is what he wants her to do.

Jodha calls him a nek-dil insaan. 😊 Why? Because she recognizes that he may be disillusioned with God and trudging down the wrong path, but his heart is still in the right place - with his awaam - and as long as his heart is in the right place, Akbar can NEVER be LOST. She knows he will find his way back now. Besides she is happy that instead of trying to shackle her in the palace as a veiled queen, Akbar is taking a courageous step in sending her out among the masses so that she can truly serve them like a Queen Mother.

Does Akbar feel threatened by her "mahanta"? Does he feel she is taking over his duties and stealing his glory? No!!! A thousand times NO! He is a confident husband and king who knows that his people need medical services and right now, there are very few people able and willing to do so. So, if Jodha is willing to treat his subjects, he is more than happy to encourage her in this bold venture and be her moral support.

As Akbar told Jodha - "generally, wives wait for husbands to return from war but I shall wait for my wife's successful return from the mission she has undertaken".

I simply LOVED this maturity of relationship between the two - how much they think alike for their empire, how much empathy they have with each other, how much they are willing to sacrifice so that others, esp the public, may be happy. Sometimes the CVs surprise us - this was one such beautiful surprise. 👏

Regarding the precap, I think Salim too wants to go and serve the awaam. After all, he had given his crown and jewelry to Murad to be distributed among the poor and told him that he was going to serve the public as the wali-ahad. Akbar stops him from going, probably citing his young age and the danger to him. It is then that Salim will ask if the MUZ could go to serve the public, why can't he be allowed.

I don't know why but this action of Salim reminded me of something - earlier in Europe, a heartbroken lover would join the Foreign Legion and go off to shoot lions in Africa. This Salim, heartbroken by Anar's apparent rejection, seems keen to go and drown his wounds among the larger woes of the public.

What a beautiful post Radhika..👏

@bold: well said. I am so happy to see most of us are in sync and on the same page as well. So far I never felt that Akbar became what he was because of MUZ.

One more thing to add, just because of Akbar, MUZ cant be MUZ and AKbar is not because of just MUZ as well. Apart from Support, encouragement from Akbar, MUZ indeed was a personality with intelligence. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

Originally posted by: anisha222

plzz dis shw is nt for u as u nvr accept JO empowerment, plzzz watch any documentary shw on Akku

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