Originally posted by: ghalibmirza
hi abhay! finally got some time after a hectic day and doing endless chores..pehle bahar ka phir ghar ka...anyway lets start where we left..
Abhay, i still have not watched last 3 epis as there is a problem with the site that i used to watch but got the hang of what might have happened and here is my concern and issue..lets see what you have to say..and i might be a little long..so bare with me!
i do not know if you have watched the movie the theory of everything, i happened to watch a couple of days ago and then had two day long discussions with my father as he is well versed with space and related science but what i am getting at is that in the movie or i should say any good movie what captivates is the characterization, script and execution!..in the whole movie the focus was on the main character..although he was disabled with disease and when he sat on the wheel chair he looked like a dented piece of small steel glass and not a very pleasant site..but what made him stand out and what made his characterization outshine the other good looking normal people?..it was the extraordinary quality of brain that he possessed and that was highlighted in the whole film and not to forget that his eyes did the talking as the rest of his body was paralyzed!..the script writer the director and the actor made sure that the essence of the portrayal of the character is not lost..he had his wife by his side who was his strength and supported him when he was the weakest but in spite of it all the aura of his that one extraordinary quality remained in the whole film!
and now if we come to our show the main focus here is on the relation that jodha and akbar shared and therefore the focus in the beginning was just right..and here i am talking about first 6 months..the tag line of the show was how akbar changed when he fell in love with his hindu consort and understood how love can be so beautiful..now lets keep the historical facts aside and focus on what is being catered to us...and in the beginning the focus how their life and characterization was before they met..even though jodha had more screen space than akbar still few minutes scenes of akbar held the strength of the character and spoke volumes..i did not had to measure or sulk at anything..in that characterization the royal aura was intact and it was powerful and majestic..but with time that aura got lost and the characterization became weak and the strength of the real historical figure that dominated and to which we could connect got lost in the transition that was shown when jalal became akbar..now the problem is that aura and that essence of real akbar should have been kept intact with the trasition..and not show him one day a saint and the other day a maniac...!
abhay the problem is with consistency..script..shaky characterization and the royal aura of 16th century is missing! akbar to me does not look like akbar..
Now coming to siyaasat..the show has excellent presentation! and i have read the book its very interesting, also read indu's interview..the book is based on historical facts with legitimate NRs..and she has been quite honest about it, and saying its all fiction will not be correct and yes main characters are missing too..maybe indu wanted to focus on noor jahan than akbar or his wives..and why i like siyasat's akbar is that his characterization and that royal aura is intact..when i look at him i can never imagine myself approaching such a powerful man and that was the usp of any Akbar's characterization which got lost in JA's akabr with time!
and i have heard a lot about that Akbar's show on DD, too bad i cannot watch it as its not available on utube!
last but not the least again reading between the lines is left to one's own perception/interpretation and to each their own..btw will try watching the epis if possible and hope to have some more fruitful discussions with you..chow!
Hi Mandy,
We all have some tolerance for watching such NR's. Perhaps i have more tolerance to watch it. Hence, i digest many things. Now i have separated myself with REAL JA, i watch this show, and just try to bring out some parallel (if any) with the history part.! So, i clearly write in my posts what is NR and what is NOT.
Only thing i remember getting mad at was Akbar's capture and beating by Abul Maali and that Khyber drama kidnapping of Jodha, and later the mockery of Chittor war.
Why i still watch this show is because of my interest in AKbar's religious reforms/policies
recently. It just gives some connection to me with my readings. Jodha and AKbar of this show have grown up, i mean now the CV's focus more on things other than "kochikoo" romance etc. They will go for showing some reforms, in their own manner , some political outlook needs to be depicted.
His religious policies are so DEEPLY rooted and so much debated that till now, i have not been able to understand him completely.
One source can give a GODly touch to his persona and some others almost try to prove him a DEVIL. Smith has, at places written such amazing paras that i have read them countless times from his book, even learning the page numbers of some paras, such is extent of craze i have for knowing about Akbar. But at some places he almost proves him to be a Devil, which i certainly do not agree with at times.
Every source has some flaws and advantages. That's why i agree with your last line about one's perception to some extent. :)
Coming to present track, this is the MOST controversial period of his life. Till now except the insects part, i have found it fine. Yes, there are most of flaws, consistency has been missing, which is beyond doubt. The game is spoiled by the urge to garner TRP's and instantaneous change in tracks. This God Track also started suddenly, even i took time to understand what has happened overnight. But i ignored this, and adjusted to this track.
No, i have not watched the movie which you mentioned. But the concept looks fascinating as told by you. But you see this movie which you mentioned is ONLY about a person it seems. So he is the centrestage, his wife is only a support. But ,our show is based on TWO PEOPLE, J and A. Hence, both are given weightage. Had this show been Akbar, it would have been Akbar only. The other 2 shows running on TV abt MP and Ash*ka are based on MALE lead, hence they are centrestage, but our show is based on 2 people. That is the difference here.
I watch less movies, more of reading, and discuss it my teachers and family. Being from a joint family, I get to hear lots of opinions from people of all age groups. Different people opine differently on same subjects. It is a treat to have such discussions.
Yes, the OLD shows of DD are a treat to watch. A friend of mine had some DVD's of the same. I watched some part of the show in them. I found the Akbar of Nur Jahan OLD serial so majestic and commanding. There also the show was centred on Nur Jahan, but Akbar was shown and all his wives were shown, his equation with all wives were shown, but that show also mentioned and depicted Jodha as the one close to him. In that show, AKbar who was in his late 50's was ready to romance Jodha in one of the scene, i was in splits watching that. :-P. He was so cunning and so caring .!! No one could read ki uske dimaag mein kya chal raha hai. :-P
So, after watching that show, i found Siyasat to be not so good in my opinion. Once you watch that DD show, you will like THAT Akbar more. Siyasat completely omits every one from Akbar's life. How can i enjoy it when i watched something better. Indu Sundaresan openly declares on page-1 that the book is completely fiction and has no resemblance to any real characters. Yes, she might have
based on history but perhaps, she became TOO MUCH engrossed in showing Nur and Ruqayya that she left almost everything else. How can i expect missing Hamida, Salim and Jodha. Of all the ladies in Akbar's life i have read about Hamida, MUZ and Salima, but seriously NO WHERE i could find Ruqayya's mention in Akbar's life, this is one reason i don't know where has that novel got the idea of showing such a thing. I don't deny it as she was one of chief queens, but kahin to mujhe kuch mile tabhi to main samjhu ki what role Ruqs had.
The book even skipped giving weight to Sali
ha Begum who was Salim's Padshah Begum even after marriage with Nur Jahan. But, reading that book looks like Akbar was ONLY concerned with Ruqayya and Salim was concerned with Nur Jahan, and rest others had no existence.
I always like to discuss with anyone as long as the discussions are fruitful and courteous. :)
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