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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tarunika13

Thanks for the lovely update Abhay, as always😊.

It was indeed a beautiful episode. Jodha and Jalal are both each others weakness and strength as well.
Strength: Jodha decided to care of awaam by leaving the palace and help her Shehenshah by being a true MUZ.

Weakness: When told by Ruks that Jalal will be alone without her, Jodha decided to stay back.

Strength: Jalal tells Jodha to leave on her mission despite conveying that it will be difficult for him to stay without her.

This is the beauty of a husband wife relationship - Their weakness for each other becomes the strength as well for each other

This was superbly depicted in today's episode👏.
And not to forget, awesome acting and expressions by our adorable Rajat & Paridhi.😳

Their scenes together made me forget some very forgettable scenes😉





beautifully Post, well said...Loved it...Thank u
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: susantogiaa

uff aaj JOJA ne emotional kar diya specially last Aarti scene i was like this😭😭aur parijat just nailed it hatsoff to them



FRANKLY I THOUGHT THE AARTI SCENE WAS A BIT OTT


THERE WERE SO MANY WOMEN THERE, ANYONE COULD HAVE DONE THE AARTI. AS PER THE NORMS, IT IS THE LADY WHO DOES THE AARTI, NEVER THE MEN


ALSO JALAL'S EXPRESSIONS AT THAT TIME SEEMED TO ME LIKE HE WAS LOST. MAY BE HE WAS SAD THAT JODHA WAS LEAVING, OR MAY BE HE IS STILL WEAK AFTER HIS ILLNESS
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Posted: 10 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: anael24

Hii abhay, thanks for the update..
but what actually changed salim's behaviour towards akdha.
Perhaps i have missed a post of yours concerning this change 😔
I dont know but this question is working my mind since some time..



Hi Anael,
This has been a slow change. I feel somehow CV's want to improve the equation of Salim with his parents before the walling of Anar.

Once Jodha had spoken a lie for Salim to guard him from Akbar's wrath, few minor gestures like these, i guess are responsible. But You have not missed anything. CV's are improving this equation of Father-Mom-Son.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ghalibmirza

Abhay was reading Smith's book and i m midway reading it..the shah mansoor MH part and active involvement of TDand MS is also mentioned. ..there are traces of history i even read akbar hitting MS but in his younger years...but anything to do with jodha and her relation with akbar is all fiction as it is not mentioned in any history book. ..and also the focus in the show is on jodha's glorification and not Akbar's as the masses will not accept glorification of a muslim ruler hence the credit to his first hindu consort...anyway nothing against the real HK she must have been a gem of a person but would have loved to watch the real Akbar and the reality in the show...anyway u all enjoy and take care!




Mandy,
Certain things need to seen and read between the Lines.
Read between the line for Jodha Akbar relationship

Some Links:
Facts-about-akbar-and-mariam-uz-zamani
Mariam-uz-zamani
^^^^The testimony about Jodha in this post is by a Muslim and a British Officer of Bengal Army.
Akbar-visit-to-Ajmer

Hence, I strongly do not believe that the issue is of a Hindu or a Muslim here.The Deputy Director of Historical Archives of India was ALSO a MUSLIM. Yet he mentioned something about Hindu consorts of Akbar in his book. His book is referenced from Badayuni's accounts. Read here since i can not mention history in forum thread, that old rule is still applicable i think.. Link:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/119696327

If you find them useful, please read.
Lastly, i would say each to his own, but if i talk of myself, i believe beyond doubt about Akbar and MUZ. :) One will get if want to search on them.

About the present track, yes this is inspired from history as i have been saying from Day-1.
With the own NR's in process for entertainment purpose. Good you are reading, you must have seen it now yourself.

Siyasat is the Natkiya Rupanter only. The depiction is ROYAL there which is good, but what do i see there - No Hamida, No Salima, No Jodha, No one, i see only his one wife - Ruqs is present as if rest others did not even exist. Best Akbar was the one in Nur Jahan serial of DD. I loved the portrayal to the core. Though, even there it was Jodha. ;)

Akbar is not such a person whose persona can EVER be eclipsed by his Queen.
I loved this beautiful post by Radhika.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/120131764

@All...
Request all to have independent opinions and candid interaction.
Each to own is the best policy. :)) Thanks. :D

Edited by history_geek - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



No interest as that also has lots or NR and follows fictional story. So I see no difference.

Happy to hear you are pleased with it, and able to watch something that u love. Definitely u will love it as JODHA is not shown there at all and of course Jalal real Love Ruks is there...SO enjoy...


oh dont say like tat ... actually i also love to watch siyasaat.. ufff what a bonding they share ... true lover !! (i mean akbar the great nd rukaiya sultan) 😳...and any husban wub b lucky to have a wife like rukaiya in SIYASAAT show.. ufff😳 (ex: trying to give poison ...etc.. ohh)... actually there is no jodha(MUZ) that proves that in history no importance for MUZ.. siyassat is the best proof or that... whatt a show!!👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

Thanks Abhay for the Lovely post...I too am enjoying the current track. JJ support each other, their care for the awaam as a perfect King and queen.

Coming to Akbar and MUZ love story,

  • Akbar bestowed 4 titles to MUZ which none of his other wives had. Why would he if he did not have a special interest for MUZ
  • Its said in Vincent Smith book Sikri was Romance in stone. We know Jodha had many Palaces and her Palace was connected to that of Akbar.People who visited Sikri also speak highly of it. I will visit in June end.
  • In Vincent Smith book, there is a page where it is written highly about MUZ. Of course the same book has written about Salima trying to reconcile issues between Salim and AKbar. Its not like Smith ignored MUZ and just talked about Salim birth. I guess we only read or keep what we want and leave the rest...
  • The most Number of children Akbar had was with MUZ.
  • MUZ was buried the closest to Akbar.
  • Added to this he encouraged in handling Haj Administration, 12000 cavalry.

The above all is sufficient for me to believe that there was a special bonding, love between MUZ and AKbar. Even after 450 yrs if people still talk about.




Sindhu and to add on to your summary as I always say am not an Indian so I give no preference to anyone but I also read that She (SALIMA VOLUNTEERED) to go and Salim's friends were trying to convince him otherwise but Salima tactfulness prevailed and he agreed to come back later.
And when he came back he fasted and asked preist to determine the auspicous time for him to meet his father but Akbar came to him saying anytime is auspicious to meet his son for him( I guess Akbar did not become too proud here right a humble heart is a great heart) and after Salim was put in-charge of medical team to heal him from drunkenness and addiction ( his mother and stepmother are mentioned to visit him).

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

Thanks Abhay for the Lovely post...I too am enjoying the current track. JJ support each other, their care for the awaam as a perfect King and queen.

Coming to Akbar and MUZ love story,

  • Akbar bestowed 4 titles to MUZ which none of his other wives had. Why would he if he did not have a special interest for MUZ
  • Its said in Vincent Smith book Sikri was Romance in stone. We know Jodha had many Palaces and her Palace was connected to that of Akbar.People who visited Sikri also speak highly of it. I will visit in June end.
  • In Vincent Smith book, there is a page where it is written highly about MUZ. Of course the same book has written about Salima trying to reconcile issues between Salim and AKbar. Its not like Smith ignored MUZ and just talked about Salim birth. I guess we only read or keep what we want and leave the rest...
  • The most Number of children Akbar had was with MUZ.
  • MUZ was buried the closest to Akbar.
  • Added to this he encouraged in handling Haj Administration, 12000 cavalry.

The above all is sufficient for me to believe that there was a special bonding, love between MUZ and AKbar. Even after 450 yrs if people still talk about.

Last but not the least, we all know and heard lots about Akbar. whats wrong if MUZ is also appreciated here and recognozed along with Akbar. People are interested in both Akbar and JODHA, not just Akbar the Great. If the latter I can very well go read some books.

TFS!😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It was a fine episode. A supportive Jalal and a caring Jodha always makes for good viewing.

When the leap was announced, I made several posts of how this was a deliberate attempt to scuttle her own show. Till last week, that is how it seemed. But now, I have changed my mind.

I now believe that Ekta's foolish obstinacy to recreate Mughal e Azam and the CV's ineptitude created the rating debacle. Now, they seemed to have learnt a lesson and are doing everything to save the show.

New characters, a strong pro active Jodha, is that not what fans of JA wanted? They are getting it. Now it upto the fans to give their verdict. We can dwell in the past and disregard it, or we can watch and see if this new changed JA leads to something good. Either way, interesting times are ahead for our serial.
Edited by Donjas - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: ghalibmirza

Abhay was reading Smith's book and i m midway reading it..the shah mansoor MH part and active involvement of TDand MS is also mentioned. ..there are traces of history i even read akbar hitting MS but in his younger years...but anything yo do with jodha and her relation with akbar is all fiction as it is not mentioned in any history book. ..and also the focus in the show is on jodha's glorification and not Akbar's as the masses will not accept glorification of a muslim ruler hence the credit to his first hindu consort...anyway nothing against the real HK she must have been a gem of a person but would have loved to watch the real Akbar and the reality in the show...anyway u all enjoy and take care!


HEY YOUR POINT ABOUT VERY LITTLE MENTION OF MUZ IS CORRECT, AS ALSO NO MENTION OF JODHA. BUT SEE THE FOLLOWING -


TEXTS CLEARLY MENTION A HINDU CONSORT WHO BORE THE HEIR. SOME ALSO MENTION THEIR CLOSENESS BY SAYING SHE WAS BURIED CLOSEST TO HIM.

SHE WAS THE REASON HINDU FESTIVALS WERE OBSERVED AND AKBAR EVEN PARTICIPATED IN THEM. ALSO SHE WAS THE REASON THAT HINDU COURTIERS WERE FIRST ADDED AND THEN DEEPLY RESPECTED


JAZIYA ABOLITION, REMARRIAGE OF WIDOWS, GRANTING SUBAS TO FEMALE OFFSPRINGS, SUPPORT TO ARTS, TOLERANCE OF RELIGIONS - ALL THESE ARE STUFF THAT OUR JALAL HAS DONE. SO TAKE HEART AND DONT ABANDON US


TO SUPPORT YOUR POINT - I THINK THE AARTI SCENE WAS A BIT OTT TODAY. THAT SEEMED TO ME TOO LIKE IN JODHA VS AKBAR JODHA'S GLORIFICATION WAS GETTING HEAVIER. BUT I GUYS THAT WAS MORE FOR EMOTIONAL MILEAGE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, COZ AS PER THE RULES MEN, SPECIALLY OLDER IN AGE AND POSITION, NEVER DO AARTI :)


IF YOU HAVE SEEN THE MOVIE SARFAROSH, AAMIR'S DAD IN THE FILM DOES AAMIR'S AARTI IN THE LAST SCENE - MORE FOR EMOTIONAL MILEAGE AND SYMBOLISM OF SUPPORT I GUESS :)


SO MY REQUEST AGAIN DONT LEAVE.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



No interest as that also has lots or NR and follows fictional story. So I see no difference.

Happy to hear you are pleased with it, and able to watch something that u love. Definitely u will love it as JODHA is not shown there at all and of course Jalal real Love Ruks is there...SO enjoy...

SINDU DI,
I REALLY WANT 2 KNOW D DEFINITION OF LOVE?
IF M NOT WRONG AC. TO SIYASAT,RUK KILLS AKBAR R8??
SO IS RUK KILLING HER OWN HUBBY CAN B TERMED AS LOVE??🤢
SO THIS IS WAT D MOST POWERFUL N BELOVED BEGUM RUK DID TO AKBAR?

PLS EXPLAIN!

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