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Posted: 10 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: ghalibmirza



abhay thank you for your candid reply as i am always up for sensible discussions!..first of all i have not watched the epi yet but responded as per WUs and various comments, none of my networks are working and i probably will not be able to watch it plus just like you i am busy as hell!..lets begin one at a time..first of all i did not mention ruk and neither wanted to bring her up its just one comment out of the blue mentioned my old post which i kinda remember..i must say my posts are popular..people remember😆..anyway my main point is that i feel sad when it comes to Akbar, the whole credit goes to his hindu begum for his greatness whereas the reality is something else and when it comes to indian rulers such as ashoka or MP the credit is all theirs and their wives are only their love interests even though they might have contributed more than is required..and here muz might have been powerful but akbar was akbar,,in fact he sometimes did not even listen to his 9 gems..he only did what he thought was right and was not led by anyone like a baby..he had a brain of his own and we should not take the credits from him for what he did and this is more to do with NRs and the way the serial is going..well abhay no qualms just a sad feeling when i hear and read some biased views about a muslim ruler..nothing else!



MANDY I AM IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT OF YOUR POST. FOR A LONG TIME NOW AKBAR IS BEING SHOWN BY OUR GREAT CVS AS, NOT AS THE GREAT EMPEROR THAT HE WAS IN HISTORY, BUT A PERSON OF NEAR NORMAL INTELLIGENCE -


1. AKBAR- SALIM-JODHA-RUKS EPISODES - BOTH JODHA AND JALAL ARE CLEARLY ESTRANGED AS FAR AS SALIM IS CONCERNED. RUKS HAS MANAGED TO GET HIM UNDER HER CONTROL FULLY. SPECIALLY IF YOU SEE EPISODE NO 399 IT IS CLEAR THAT AKBAR SAW SALIM DRUNK AND MISBEHAVE AND IMMEDIATELY SENT HIM TO WAR. HE DID NOT CHOOSE TO VERIFY OR FIND PUT EXACTLY WHAT HAD HAPPENED. EVEN JODHA FOR THAT MATTER IS SHOWN OBLIVIOUS OF ALL RUKS ANTICS. SALIM ONLY BEHAVES NORMALLY WITH HIS PARENTS A FEW TIMES. AT ALL OTHER TIMESHE IS SPEWING VENOM AGAINST THEM

2. IN THE RESHAM KHAN- SHAREEF FATHER EPISODE JALAL NEVER EVER REALISED THAT IT WAS RUKS WHO WAS THE AFEEM GIVER. THIS IS SPECIALLY WHEN SALIMA HAD POINTED A FINGER AT RUKS. EVERYTHING JUST PASSED OVER N RUKS WAS SCOT FREE. NEVER DID JALAL FEEL LIKE DIGGING DEEPER


3. IN BENAZIR TRACK AGAIN JALAL STARTED WITH MAKING JODHA FEEL JEALOUS, BUT THEN SUDDENLY ENDED UP AGREEING TO MARRY BENZO. RUKS AND MAHAM WERE PLOTTING AND PLANNING AND YET JALAL HAD NO CLUE. ONLY WHEN JODHA WAS UNCONSCIOUS DID HER REALIZE HIS ERROR


4. EVEN IN THE RUKS MISCARRIAGE EPISODE, JALAL AGREED TO WHATEVER RUKS FED HIM WITH. NEVER DID HE TRY TO FIND OUT THE DEEPER TRUTH.


IF LOOK BACK AT OTHER EPISODES IN THE SERIAL, THERE WOULD BE SEVERAL SUCH INSTANCES WHEN MAHAMANGA AND RUKS HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO HAVE FAR SUPERIOR BRAIN LEVELS AS COMPARED FO JODHA AND JALAL


HISTORY TELLS US THE GREATNESS OF THE MAN THAT JALALUDDIN AKBAR WAS, MY ONLY ENTREATY IS THAT CVS ARE NOT GIVING HIM HIS DUE.


I AGREE WITH ABHAY'S HISTORY AND RADHIKA'S PARIENT REPLIES TOO


BUT WHERE IS THE JALAL WHO WAS A FORCE TO RECKON WITH AND WHERE IS THE MUZ WHO WAS KNOWN HER INTELLIGENCE. WHY IS IT OK FOR CVS TO SHOW RUKS AS INTELLIGENT, MAHAM ANGA AS INTELLIGENT AND WHY IS IT OK FOR US TO ACCEPT THAT IF THEY SHOW HISTORY WITHOUT NR THEN VIEWERS WILL FIND IT BORING

WHERE ARE THE JODHA AND JALAL THAT WE WOULD ALL LOVE TO SEE
Edited by Sabdabhala - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi Sabdabhala

My views inline in purple.


I LIKE WRITING IN ALL CAPS COZ IN THE IPAD THAT I USE I AM NOT ABLE TO MODIFY FONT SIZES. NO OTHER INTENTION BY USING ALL CAPS. ALSO I AM REVERTING BACK COZ I AM ENJOYING THIS DISCUSSION. GREAT TO READ ABPUT EVERYONE'S OPINION. ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTIONTO ARGUE OR PROVE A POINT. TRYING TO REVERT RO YOUR COMMENTS


DEAR RADHIKA


1. RIVETING ENTERTAINMENT? REALLY?

WHY IS IT OK FOR CVS TO SHOW RUKS AND MAHAM ANGA WITH SUPERIOR BRAIN LEVELS AND NOT OKAY FOR THEM TO SHOW JALAL AS GREAT? WHY DO CVS ONLY GLORIFY THE VAMP AND NOT THE PROTAGONIST? WHEN HAVE WE AS THE AUDIENCE TOLD THEM THAT FOR US SEEING JALAL OR AKBAR AS GREAT IS BORING?


2. THERE IS NO CLASH IN THE POINTS THAT I HAVE MADE REGARDING JODHA DOING OR NOT DOING WORK. MY POINT IS THAT JODHA HAD THESE TWO MONTHS OF TIME TO CORRECT WHATEVER WAS WRONG, BUT THE CVS DID NOT SHOW HER DOING ANYTHING OF THE SORT. BUT NOW EVER SINCE JALAL IS UP AND HAS SEEN THE STATE OF THE AWAAM SHE IS SHOWN BY CVS AS ALL WORRIED AND DYING TO GET INTO ACTION.

MY ISSUE IS WITH THE CVS PORTRAYAL OF JODHA AND NOT WITH THE CHARACTER JODHA

3. YESTERDAY EPISODE MADE ME THINK THAT A RIFT BETWEEN JALAL AND JODHA IS IN THE OFFING. I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THE KANHA EXCHANGE AND JODHA'S RESOLVE AFTER THAT MADE ME THINK IN THA DIRECTION

WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE IS THAT JODHA AND JALAL WERE IN TANDEM. NO HISTORICAL DOCUMENT POINTS OUT RIFTS BETWEEN THEM. IF CVS TRY AND CREATE ONE ( OF COURSE IT WILL BE ONE OF MANY) THEN AGAIN THEY ARE DIGGING A GRAVE


4. THE EXPOSURE OF MAAN SINGH TO SHREEF AND MIRZA WAS ALSO QUITE BADLY HANDLED BY CVS. UFFF THERE WERE A 100 GOOD WAYS OF FILMING THIS PORTION :(


5. YES I AGREE THAT MY COMMENTS ON DIN E ILAHI WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIT HASTY. MAY BE THE SEEDS OF DIN E ILAHI WERE SOWN NOW BUT THE DOCTRINE IS A SUPERB, (EVEN FOR TODAY'S TIMES OR MAY BE SPECIALLY FOR TODAY'S TIMES) SO CVS SHOULD SHOW IT WITH A SPECIAL HANDLING

YOUR LAST POINT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM IN COMPLTETE AGREEMENT WITH. AKBAR WAS REALLY GREAT. MY ONLY ISSUE IS THAT CVS ARE NOT GIVING HIM THE GREATNESS THAT IS DUE TO HIS CHARACTER



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Posted: 10 years ago
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i really dont understand why people always target Jodha agar jalal was nt understanding what he is doing was wrong agar jodha want to help jalal by taking any responsibility on her hand its does nt mean wo hud ko mahaan bana na chahte hai sab ke samne agar os ko mahaan ban na hota wo phele hi mahaan ban jaate jo cheez ladka kare tho sai agar koi girl kare tho mahaan wah
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Zee TV's popular historical drama Jodha Akbar (Balaji Telefilms) has been portraying the iconic love story of Jodha (Paridhi Sharma) and Akbar (Rajat Tokas). With the show taking a leap, viewers have also got a chance to see the charismatic love tale of Anarkali (Heena Parmar) and Salim (Ravi Bhatia).
And now soon, gear up to witness the entry of a new character which will add a lot of twist in the tale. Jagdev, a fighter, will enter the lives of Jodha-Akbar. And playing the interesting character will be the good looking Vishnu Bholwani.
Shares a source from the show, "The character will be a positive one supporting the Mughal king. But soon he will go on to fall in love with Jodha creating a lot of drama in the show."
The multi-shade character will see an entry soon.
Speaking on the same, Vishnu said, "This is my first historical show and I am really excited about it. Also working with Balaji Telefilms is always a great feeling. As for the character, I have just come on the sets and thus don't have much detail."
The actor has earlier been part of popular shows like Jee Le Zara, Mere Rang Mein Rangne Wali among many others.

THIS IS AN ARTICLE POSTED BY A FORUM MEMBER

MY PREMONITION OF A RIFT BETWEEN JO AND JALAL IS NOT WRONG :)

MY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT MUGHAL HISTORY DOES NOT HAVE ANY REFERENCES TO THIS CHARACTER.

JAI HO NR JAI HO CVS
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Posted: 10 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: Sabdabhala

Zee TV's popular historical drama Jodha Akbar (Balaji Telefilms) has been portraying the iconic love story of Jodha (Paridhi Sharma) and Akbar (Rajat Tokas). With the show taking a leap, viewers have also got a chance to see the charismatic love tale of Anarkali (Heena Parmar) and Salim (Ravi Bhatia).
And now soon, gear up to witness the entry of a new character which will add a lot of twist in the tale. Jagdev, a fighter, will enter the lives of Jodha-Akbar. And playing the interesting character will be the good looking Vishnu Bholwani.
Shares a source from the show, "<font size="5" color="#ff0000">The character will be a positive one supporting the Mughal king. But soon he will go on to fall in love with Jodha creating a lot of drama in the show."</font>
<font size="5" color="#ff0000">The multi-shade character will see an entry soon.</font>
Speaking on the same, Vishnu said, "This is my first historical show and I am really excited about it. Also working with Balaji Telefilms is always a great feeling. As for the character, I have just come on the sets and thus don't have much detail."
The actor has earlier been part of popular shows like Jee Le Zara, Mere Rang Mein Rangne Wali among many others.

THIS IS AN ARTICLE POSTED BY A FORUM MEMBER

MY PREMONITION OF A RIFT BETWEEN JO AND JALAL IS NOT WRONG :)

MY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT MUGHAL HISTORY DOES NOT HAVE ANY REFERENCES TO THIS CHARACTER.

JAI HO NR JAI HO CVS



well ,if anarkali like character introduced in literature nd later it became as popular history thn whts wrong if thy introduce these typ of characters as NR ? benazir nd kyayber too were fictional characters. chill

haha... nd noone has problem whn akdha was sidelined for salim anarkali track. lol but aftr two months whn akdha track start nw there are lots of shaaa shuuu 's happening. ... ;)

for realistic drama better v shud watch a documentary... !!!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: Sabdabhala


MANDY I AM IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT OF YOUR POST. FOR A LONG TIME NOW AKBAR IS BEING SHOWN BY OUR GREAT CVS AS, NOT AS THE GREAT EMPEROR THAT HE WAS IN HISTORY, BUT A PERSON OF NEAR NORMAL INTELLIGENCE -


1. AKBAR- SALIM-JODHA-RUKS EPISODES - BOTH JODHA AND JALAL ARE CLEARLY ESTRANGED AS FAR AS SALIM IS CONCERNED. RUKS HAS MANAGED TO GET HIM UNDER HER CONTROL FULLY. SPECIALLY IF YOU SEE EPISODE NO 399 IT IS CLEAR THAT AKBAR SAW SALIM DRUNK AND MISBEHAVE AND IMMEDIATELY SENT HIM TO WAR. HE DID NOT CHOOSE TO VERIFY OR FIND PUT EXACTLY WHAT HAD HAPPENED. EVEN JODHA FOR THAT MATTER IS SHOWN OBLIVIOUS OF ALL RUKS ANTICS. SALIM ONLY BEHAVES NORMALLY WITH HIS PARENTS A FEW TIMES. AT ALL OTHER TIMESHE IS SPEWING VENOM AGAINST THEM

2. IN THE RESHAM KHAN- SHAREEF FATHER EPISODE JALAL NEVER EVER REALISED THAT IT WAS RUKS WHO WAS THE AFEEM GIVER. THIS IS SPECIALLY WHEN SALIMA HAD POINTED A FINGER AT RUKS. EVERYTHING JUST PASSED OVER N RUKS WAS SCOT FREE. NEVER DID JALAL FEEL LIKE DIGGING DEEPER


3. IN BENAZIR TRACK AGAIN JALAL STARTED WITH MAKING JODHA FEEL JEALOUS, BUT THEN SUDDENLY ENDED UP AGREEING TO MARRY BENZO. RUKS AND MAHAM WERE PLOTTING AND PLANNING AND YET JALAL HAD NO CLUE. ONLY WHEN JODHA WAS UNCONSCIOUS DID HER REALIZE HIS ERROR


4. EVEN IN THE RUKS MISCARRIAGE EPISODE, JALAL AGREED TO WHATEVER RUKS FED HIM WITH. NEVER DID HE TRY TO FIND OUT THE DEEPER TRUTH.


IF LOOK BACK AT OTHER EPISODES IN THE SERIAL, THERE WOULD BE SEVERAL SUCH INSTANCES WHEN MAHAMANGA AND RUKS HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO HAVE FAR SUPERIOR BRAIN LEVELS AS COMPARED FO JODHA AND JALAL


HISTORY TELLS US THE GREATNESS OF THE MAN THAT JALALUDDIN AKBAR WAS, MY ONLY ENTREATY IS THAT CVS ARE NOT GIVING HIM HIS DUE.


I AGREE WITH ABHAY'S HISTORY AND RADHIKA'S PARIENT REPLIES TOO


BUT WHERE IS THE JALAL WHO WAS A FORCE TO RECKON WITH AND WHERE IS THE MUZ WHO WAS KNOWN HER INTELLIGENCE. WHY IS IT OK FOR CVS TO SHOW RUKS AS INTELLIGENT, MAHAM ANGA AS INTELLIGENT AND WHY IS IT OK FOR US TO ACCEPT THAT IF THEY SHOW HISTORY WITHOUT NR THEN VIEWERS WILL FIND IT BORING

WHERE ARE THE JODHA AND JALAL THAT WE WOULD ALL LOVE TO SEE



I agree with your post, its actually very very balanced. certainly both AKdha has been butchered, and by no means can we say Jodha has been shown as Symbol of Nari Shakthi and AKbar has been butchered. In fact both has been..As parents of Salim they failed too as they could not get to the bottom of afeem...At least if Ruks was not exposed, Salim being fed afeem as a child should have come out.

@bold: Well said. Mamanga at least was caught in the end, but so Far Ruks only has succeeded and she will go on to plot and succeed.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: dushi123



well ,if anarkali like character introduced in literature nd later it became as popular history thn whts wrong if thy introduce these typ of characters as NR ? benazir nd kyayber too were fictional characters. chill

haha... nd noone has problem whn akdha was sidelined for salim anarkali track. lol but aftr two months whn akdha track start nw there are lots of shaaa shuuu 's happening. ... ;)

for realistic drama better v shud watch a documentary... !!!!

well said
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I don't understand one thing why everything posted in the form of an article creates a crisis about the character of jodha. O.k somebody love her does it mean that jodha also fall in love with that person. when a person is eternal beauty with many good qualities many people appreciate her from the bottom of heart. if it s considered as love the person can love but that need not be taken negative. Why Akbar will take it as negative and there will be gap/rift between them? instead he would laugh at them who are in love with his wife.Jodha is 35-39 years old and if someone appreciate her what is wrong in it? she has a grown up son so what when Akbar could marry whether out of pity or for political purposes at later age also here jodha is not marrying that person. First of all how far the article is correct in true sense we don't know and also what sort of love or for what reason he falls for her we don't know. it became a habit to go on talking all worst things about jodha whenever a news item comes in paper or somewhere about jodha. everybody knows that there is lot of NR in the show. though a few intellectuals and history lovers don't appreciate the tracks common viewers are still happy with jodha's characterisation as per my knowledge. so friends let us view the show with unbiosed feelings and even if we don't like and rant ph, producer or cvs don't listen to us. so why to worry unnecessarily?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: dushi123



well ,if anarkali like character introduced in literature nd later it became as popular history thn whts wrong if thy introduce these typ of characters as NR ? benazir nd kyayber too were fictional characters. chill

haha... nd noone has problem whn akdha was sidelined for salim anarkali track. lol but aftr two months whn akdha track start nw there are lots of shaaa shuuu 's happening. ... ;)

for realistic drama better v shud watch a documentary... !!!!

WELL SAID DHUSHI!👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabdabhala



MANDY I AM IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT OF YOUR POST. FOR A LONG TIME NOW AKBAR IS BEING SHOWN BY OUR GREAT CVS AS, NOT AS THE GREAT EMPEROR THAT HE WAS IN HISTORY, BUT A PERSON OF NEAR NORMAL INTELLIGENCE -


1. AKBAR- SALIM-JODHA-RUKS EPISODES - BOTH JODHA AND JALAL ARE CLEARLY ESTRANGED AS FAR AS SALIM IS CONCERNED. RUKS HAS MANAGED TO GET HIM UNDER HER CONTROL FULLY. SPECIALLY IF YOU SEE EPISODE NO 399 IT IS CLEAR THAT AKBAR SAW SALIM DRUNK AND MISBEHAVE AND IMMEDIATELY SENT HIM TO WAR. HE DID NOT CHOOSE TO VERIFY OR FIND PUT EXACTLY WHAT HAD HAPPENED. EVEN JODHA FOR THAT MATTER IS SHOWN OBLIVIOUS OF ALL RUKS ANTICS. SALIM ONLY BEHAVES NORMALLY WITH HIS PARENTS A FEW TIMES. AT ALL OTHER TIMESHE IS SPEWING VENOM AGAINST THEM

2. IN THE RESHAM KHAN- SHAREEF FATHER EPISODE JALAL NEVER EVER REALISED THAT IT WAS RUKS WHO WAS THE AFEEM GIVER. THIS IS SPECIALLY WHEN SALIMA HAD POINTED A FINGER AT RUKS. EVERYTHING JUST PASSED OVER N RUKS WAS SCOT FREE. NEVER DID JALAL FEEL LIKE DIGGING DEEPER


3. IN BENAZIR TRACK AGAIN JALAL STARTED WITH MAKING JODHA FEEL JEALOUS, BUT THEN SUDDENLY ENDED UP AGREEING TO MARRY BENZO. RUKS AND MAHAM WERE PLOTTING AND PLANNING AND YET JALAL HAD NO CLUE. ONLY WHEN JODHA WAS UNCONSCIOUS DID HER REALIZE HIS ERROR


4. EVEN IN THE RUKS MISCARRIAGE EPISODE, JALAL AGREED TO WHATEVER RUKS FED HIM WITH. NEVER DID HE TRY TO FIND OUT THE DEEPER TRUTH.


IF LOOK BACK AT OTHER EPISODES IN THE SERIAL, THERE WOULD BE SEVERAL SUCH INSTANCES WHEN MAHAMANGA AND RUKS HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO HAVE FAR SUPERIOR BRAIN LEVELS AS COMPARED FO JODHA AND JALAL


HISTORY TELLS US THE GREATNESS OF THE MAN THAT JALALUDDIN AKBAR WAS, MY ONLY ENTREATY IS THAT CVS ARE NOT GIVING HIM HIS DUE.


I AGREE WITH ABHAY'S HISTORY AND RADHIKA'S PARIENT REPLIES TOO


BUT WHERE IS THE JALAL WHO WAS A FORCE TO RECKON WITH AND WHERE IS THE MUZ WHO WAS KNOWN HER INTELLIGENCE. WHY IS IT OK FOR CVS TO SHOW RUKS AS INTELLIGENT, MAHAM ANGA AS INTELLIGENT AND WHY IS IT OK FOR US TO ACCEPT THAT IF THEY SHOW HISTORY WITHOUT NR THEN VIEWERS WILL FIND IT BORING

WHERE ARE THE JODHA AND JALAL THAT WE WOULD ALL LOVE TO SEE


Fine Q indeed, Sabdabhala - where indeed are the Jalal and Jodha that we all would love to see?

I am hopeful that this track may salvage some of the traits of Akbar and MUZ - keeping fingers crossed 😊

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