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Posted: 10 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: swepa

I don't understand one thing why everything posted in the form of an article creates a crisis about the character of jodha. O.k somebody love her does it mean that jodha also fall in love with that person. when a person is eternal beauty with many good qualities many people appreciate her from the bottom of heart. if it s considered as love the person can love but that need not be taken negative. Why Akbar will take it as negative and there will be gap/rift between them? instead he would laugh at them who are in love with his wife.Jodha is 35-39 years old and if someone appreciate her what is wrong in it? she has a grown up son so what when Akbar could marry whether out of pity or for political purposes at later age also here jodha is not marrying that person. First of all how far the article is correct in true sense we don't know and also what sort of love or for what reason he falls for her we don't know. it became a habit to go on talking all worst things about jodha whenever a news item comes in paper or somewhere about jodha. everybody knows that there is lot of NR in the show. though a few intellectuals and history lovers don't appreciate the tracks common viewers are still happy with jodha's characterisation as per my knowledge. so friends let us view the show with unbiosed feelings and even if we don't like and rant ph, producer or cvs don't listen to us. so why to worry unnecessarily?


haha.. well said.. whn i see these " objection " comments it gives me some good laugh. 😆//// and some people still think this show is about "AKBAR THE GREAT " or MUGAL KINGS LIFE STORY or 😛(Rukaiya sultan (very few))

but this is JODHA AKBAR.. name it self enough for me to understand everything. coz this story is about AKBAR nd JODHA individually or as one. their love story/ their roles... etc... again and again y v r here to defense jodha or jalal... some people will nvr understand.👏

NO 1 : and wht if some man loves jodha ..😆 anyone can love.. but that dosent mean both side do love wd each othr..
as an example.. 😆 i love shahrukh madly..really i love him😉 but SHAHRUKH loves me??? lol. ( oh still i think y dint he love me like the way i do )🤣

NO 2 : love has no age ..😉

haha.. just said.. ufff 😆

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Posted: 10 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: swepa

I don't understand one thing why everything posted in the form of an article creates a crisis about the character of jodha. O.k somebody love her does it mean that jodha also fall in love with that person. when a person is eternal beauty with many good qualities many people appreciate her from the bottom of heart. if it s considered as love the person can love but that need not be taken negative. Why Akbar will take it as negative and there will be gap/rift between them? instead he would laugh at them who are in love with his wife.Jodha is 35-39 years old and if someone appreciate her what is wrong in it? she has a grown up son so what when Akbar could marry whether out of pity or for political purposes at later age also here jodha is not marrying that person. First of all how far the article is correct in true sense we don't know and also what sort of love or for what reason he falls for her we don't know. it became a habit to go on talking all worst things about jodha whenever a news item comes in paper or somewhere about jodha. everybody knows that there is lot of NR in the show. though a few intellectuals and history lovers don't appreciate the tracks common viewers are still happy with jodha's characterisation as per my knowledge. so friends let us view the show with unbiosed feelings and even if we don't like and rant ph, producer or cvs don't listen to us. so why to worry unnecessarily?


SWEPA I AM IN NO WAY TALKING ILL ABOUT JODHA

JODHA TO HAI HI AISI KI SAB USSE PYAAR KAR KAREIN

WHAT I AM CRITICIZING IS THE WAY CVS ARE AGAIN AND AGAIN BUTCHERING HER CHARACTER. I WOULD LIKE THEM TO SHOW A STRONG AND POWERFUL JODHA WHO LOVES HER HUBBY AND HER SON, WHO TAKES ON MORE RESPONSIBILITIES THAN THE USUAL LORI SINGING AND ROMANCING

NOTHING WRONG IF A MAN LIKES HER OR EVEN LOVES HER. BUT BASED ON THE PAST, ALL THE CVS MANAGE TO SHOW IS HOW STUPID SHE IS TO NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE PERSON'S FEELINGS. SHAREEF HAS BEEN LECHING AT HER FOR YEARS, BUT SHE HAS NEVER REALIZED AND NEVER PUT A STOP TO IT. MY ONLY WISH IS TO SHOW JODHA OF STRONG CHARACTER, BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY SUCH IMBECILES AND SILENCE THEM


I AM ALSO NOT TOO AFFECTED BY THE NR BUT DONT FORGET THAT THIS IS A SHOW THAT WE ALL HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING, SO IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK CVS TO SHOW BETTER TRACKS?
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Posted: 10 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Sabdabhala


I LIKE WRITING IN ALL CAPS COZ IN THE IPAD THAT I USE I AM NOT ABLE TO MODIFY FONT SIZES. NO OTHER INTENTION BY USING ALL CAPS. ALSO I AM REVERTING BACK COZ I AM ENJOYING THIS DISCUSSION. GREAT TO READ ABPUT EVERYONE'S OPINION. ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTIONTO ARGUE OR PROVE A POINT. TRYING TO REVERT RO YOUR COMMENTS

No problem with font - and yeah, we all enjoy a good discussion where we can exchange our views and not try to prove a point.

DEAR RADHIKA
Hi! 😊

1. RIVETING ENTERTAINMENT? REALLY?

WHY IS IT OK FOR CVS TO SHOW RUKS AND MAHAM ANGA WITH SUPERIOR BRAIN LEVELS AND NOT OKAY FOR THEM TO SHOW JALAL AS GREAT? WHY DO CVS ONLY GLORIFY THE VAMP AND NOT THE PROTAGONIST? WHEN HAVE WE AS THE AUDIENCE TOLD THEM THAT FOR US SEEING JALAL OR AKBAR AS GREAT IS BORING?

Has anyone on this thread or any other thread of mine or Abhay's said that we don't want to see Jalal as great or that we are ok with watching Ruq / Maham with superior intelligence? May be you missed but recently I made a thread asking when the time would come for Ruq's punishment.

We all have trouble understanding why the CVs are fixated with negativity, which drove away fans and plunged TRPs. We all want to see real history.

Having said this, I will say let's give a chance to the CVs to make up for past errors in this track. Why should we keep discussing what went wrong in the past instead of trying to enjoy the present track? The past has been discussed ad nauseum and speculating about the future is futile as the CVs are unpredictable. Best is to enjoy the present track and take EACH episode as it comes.


2. THERE IS NO CLASH IN THE POINTS THAT I HAVE MADE REGARDING JODHA DOING OR NOT DOING WORK. MY POINT IS THAT JODHA HAD THESE TWO MONTHS OF TIME TO CORRECT WHATEVER WAS WRONG, BUT THE CVS DID NOT SHOW HER DOING ANYTHING OF THE SORT. BUT NOW EVER SINCE JALAL IS UP AND HAS SEEN THE STATE OF THE AWAAM SHE IS SHOWN BY CVS AS ALL WORRIED AND DYING TO GET INTO ACTION.

MY ISSUE IS WITH THE CVS PORTRAYAL OF JODHA AND NOT WITH THE CHARACTER JODHA

Let me tell you that when my mom was in coma, we could not think of anything else but just kept praying to God and spending time with her as much as possible in the hope that she would come back to our world soon.

When a husband is in coma, a wife cannot think of anything else but when he would become conscious again. At that point, even a queen is ONLy a WIFE.

Now that Akbar is fine again and itching to do something for his awaam, Jodha is thinking how she can support him in this endeavor and what she can do as Empress and MUZ.

I think the CVs are showing the character just fine.

3. YESTERDAY EPISODE MADE ME THINK THAT A RIFT BETWEEN JALAL AND JODHA IS IN THE OFFING. I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THE KANHA EXCHANGE AND JODHA'S RESOLVE AFTER THAT MADE ME THINK IN THA DIRECTION

WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE IS THAT JODHA AND JALAL WERE IN TANDEM. NO HISTORICAL DOCUMENT POINTS OUT RIFTS BETWEEN THEM. IF CVS TRY AND CREATE ONE ( OF COURSE IT WILL BE ONE OF MANY) THEN AGAIN THEY ARE DIGGING A GRAVE

No, unless the CVs are deliberately planning to show a rift, there can be no rift based on the exchange between Jalal and Jodha yesterday.

Jalal is disillusioned with God. Jodha is also worried why Kanha is not doing anything but she still has faith that Kanha will not let her down. When she sees Akbar is disillusioned with God and is thinking negatively, she resolves that she has to do something to help the awaam as MUZ so that he will be happy. She knows that once his problems are solved and his awaam is happy, Jalal will again start thinking positively and return to the spiritual path that he has strayed from temporarily.

There is no rift. She was till now a wife praying for her husband's physical recovery. Now she is the MUZ who will help his mental and emotional recovery by doing whatever she can. This is the role of a wife and Jodha is being the ideal wife completely.


4. THE EXPOSURE OF MAAN SINGH TO SHREEF AND MIRZA WAS ALSO QUITE BADLY HANDLED BY CVS. UFFF THERE WERE A 100 GOOD WAYS OF FILMING THIS PORTION :(

Agree many scenes can be handled better. I am only happy that at least the fact that Man Singh had exposed Mirza Hakim to Akbar is being shown. How this is shown is something that can be improved.

5. YES I AGREE THAT MY COMMENTS ON DIN E ILAHI WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIT HASTY. MAY BE THE SEEDS OF DIN E ILAHI WERE SOWN NOW BUT THE DOCTRINE IS A SUPERB, (EVEN FOR TODAY'S TIMES OR MAY BE SPECIALLY FOR TODAY'S TIMES) SO CVS SHOULD SHOW IT WITH A SPECIAL HANDLING

Hope so too - this entire track deserves to be handled well and everything shown in great detail - am really looking fwd to seeing how Din-i-ilahi is shown.

YOUR LAST POINT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM IN COMPLTETE AGREEMENT WITH. AKBAR WAS REALLY GREAT. MY ONLY ISSUE IS THAT CVS ARE NOT GIVING HIM THE GREATNESS THAT IS DUE TO HIS CHARACTER

Akbar's characterization leaves much to be desired and so does MUZ's. I do not like brooding on the past. Am just waiting and watching how these two are portrayed in this track.


Nice talking to you, Sabdabhala. We both agree we want strong lead characters and less focus on villains and vamps. Hopefully CVs should pay heed to our wishes at least now. 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: Sabdabhala


SWEPA I AM IN NO WAY TALKING ILL ABOUT JODHA

JODHA TO HAI HI AISI KI SAB USSE PYAAR KAR KAREIN

WHAT I AM CRITICIZING IS THE WAY CVS ARE AGAIN AND AGAIN BUTCHERING HER CHARACTER. I WOULD LIKE THEM TO SHOW A STRONG AND POWERFUL JODHA WHO LOVES HER HUBBY AND HER SON, WHO TAKES ON MORE RESPONSIBILITIES THAN THE USUAL LORI SINGING AND ROMANCING

NOTHING WRONG IF A MAN LIKES HER OR EVEN LOVES HER. BUT BASED ON THE PAST, ALL THE CVS MANAGE TO SHOW IS HOW STUPID SHE IS TO NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE PERSON'S FEELINGS. SHAREEF HAS BEEN LECHING AT HER FOR YEARS, BUT SHE HAS NEVER REALIZED AND NEVER PUT A STOP TO IT. MY ONLY WISH IS TO SHOW JODHA OF STRONG CHARACTER, BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY SUCH IMBECILES AND SILENCE THEM


I AM ALSO NOT TOO AFFECTED BY THE NR BUT DONT FORGET THAT THIS IS A SHOW THAT WE ALL HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING, SO IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK CVS TO SHOW BETTER TRACKS?

DON'T WORRY THIS TIME IT WILL PLAY OUT DIFFERENTLY!😃
@BLUE PAST TWO WEEKS THERE IS A VAST IMPROVEMENT IN JO'S CHARACTERIZATION!
NO..DEAR..DON'T U FEEL TRACKS R GETTING BETTER?
TODAY U WILL SEE JADHA TAKING AWAAM'S RESPONSIBILITY AS M.U.Z!

I KNOW.IT MUST B DIFFICULT 2 SEE POSITIVES AFTR 2MONTH OF TORTURE..BUT BELIEVE ME THERE IS AN IMPROVEMENT IN PAST 2 WEEKS..BUT YA A BIT OF NR..OTHERWISE IT WILL B BORING!

I THINK THAT GUY WILL FALL FOR JODHA W/O KNOWING THAT SHE IS JALAL'S BEGUM WHEN JO IS IN DISGUISE AS A COMMONER!
FORGET D PAST N GIVE A CHANCE 2 THIS SHOW..ATLEAST 4 BRILLIANT ACTORS LIKE PARIJAT..IF U KEEP OUT D NEGATIVE THINGS SHOWN IN PAST..THN BELIEVE ME U WILL DEFINITELY ENJOY THIS TRACK!

I REALLY WANTED 2 SEE A POSSESSIVE N JEALOUS JALAL!😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: swepa

I don't understand one thing why everything posted in the form of an article creates a crisis about the character of jodha. O.k somebody love her does it mean that jodha also fall in love with that person. when a person is eternal beauty with many good qualities many people appreciate her from the bottom of heart. if it s considered as love the person can love but that need not be taken negative. Why Akbar will take it as negative and there will be gap/rift between them? instead he would laugh at them who are in love with his wife.Jodha is 35-39 years old and if someone appreciate her what is wrong in it? she has a grown up son so what when Akbar could marry whether out of pity or for political purposes at later age also here jodha is not marrying that person. First of all how far the article is correct in true sense we don't know and also what sort of love or for what reason he falls for her we don't know. it became a habit to go on talking all worst things about jodha whenever a news item comes in paper or somewhere about jodha. everybody knows that there is lot of NR in the show. though a few intellectuals and history lovers don't appreciate the tracks common viewers are still happy with jodha's characterisation as per my knowledge. so friends let us view the show with unbiosed feelings and even if we don't like and rant ph, producer or cvs don't listen to us. so why to worry unnecessarily?


Well said, Mehak 👏

1. We don't know if the article is true and to what extent.

2. Let's see the track and then judge why the new character falls for Jo and in what manner. The article does not say that Jodha also falls in love with him. Love here may be the love of a friend or the admiration of someone for a talented and beautiful queen.

3. In any case, the entry of this character does not mean that Jodha's character will be tarnished or that there will be a rift between Jalal and Jodha. Both JJ are now old enough and mature enough to handle such issues with broad-mindedness and a sense of humor.

4. Even assuming the worst, if there is a rift between the 2, it will be temporary and be patched soon enough. We all know that, so relax.

My earnest request to all is again to enjoy the present track and take each episode as it is shown. 😊 Let's not over-speculate on future tracks and spoil our mood.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: swepa

I don't understand one thing why everything posted in the form of an article creates a crisis about the character of jodha. O.k somebody love her does it mean that jodha also fall in love with that person. when a person is eternal beauty with many good qualities many people appreciate her from the bottom of heart. if it s considered as love the person can love but that need not be taken negative. Why Akbar will take it as negative and there will be gap/rift between them? instead he would laugh at them who are in love with his wife.Jodha is 35-39 years old and if someone appreciate her what is wrong in it? she has a grown up son so what when Akbar could marry whether out of pity or for political purposes at later age also here jodha is not marrying that person. First of all how far the article is correct in true sense we don't know and also what sort of love or for what reason he falls for her we don't know. it became a habit to go on talking all worst things about jodha whenever a news item comes in paper or somewhere about jodha. everybody knows that there is lot of NR in the show. though a few intellectuals and history lovers don't appreciate the tracks common viewers are still happy with jodha's characterisation as per my knowledge. so friends let us view the show with unbiosed feelings and even if we don't like and rant ph, producer or cvs don't listen to us. so why to worry unnecessarily?

WELL SAID MEHAK!👏
UR POINTS R CORRECT N U PENNED DOWN BEAUTIFULLY!..CARRY ON!😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Vinita

Well said 👏

If you saw the Mirchi War track, Jodha tells Akbar how the Rajputs prepare beforehand for jauhar in the eventuality of a defeat and Akbar immediately dismisses it. At that time itself, he makes it clear that he expects her to remain strong under all circumstances and not to resort to jauhar.

I respect jauhar and understand that it takes a lot of courage to perform jauhar under adverse circumstances. I am only pointing out that it was shown that Akbar didn't support the idea of Jodha or any other woman committing jauhar but wanted them to fight for themselves.




Vinita,

Yes, in Akbar the Great they have shown this scene where he asks Jodha not to carry this practice if he somehow ~dies~ .!

Long time back i had discussed on this forum with someone about the topic. But, I have not known about this in details at present.

But one thing which is recorded is that after the Jauhar of ladies of Ranthambore, Akbar felt quite "uneasy" .! These somehow are in sync with Radhika's views above. In our show also, Akbar was shown not in favor of Jauhar.

I will tell you if i get some details about the incident from the show - Akbar the Great.!


Edited by history_geek - 10 years ago

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