Remembering & Honoring Jodha - my lionhearted Queen-Abhay post pg1 - Page 7

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

Maddy just superb depiction. A tight hug to u b/c the influential way u have described my frutration on this Jodha character whom i loved most in this show.
I wl add more later.

Originally posted by: Suganya.S

Hi Maddy di 😊

Yup I remember ur post of " Jalal killed Jodha" 😭 , I literally felt very bad for Jodha and ourselves too , having been reduced to this sorry state and completely had no idea as wat to do next

Yes it was so hurting initially , when i had to watch my favourite show to be reduced to this pathetic state which i never ever dreamt of ... I too am just reading the updates so as to keep track with the storyline , as i loved this show a lot too 😕

Hi Suganya 😃
Truly what has JA been reduced to! It was supposed to be epic love story - instead now it seems to be RukAkbar! I cannot bear to watch this Jodha, it is painful.

Oh how MUCH I loved JodhaAkbar - I liked Jodha's Jalal but I absolutely LOVED Jodha. I used to watch even repeats if I could and spent hours on the forum - thinking and writing about JA.

Oh Maddy di , I am much as on par with you ... I too will never ever miss a single episode , y i will watch all the repeats whenever i m on holiday and my youtube will only be running with jodha akbar scenes 😭😭 But now every thing seems a distant probablity to even see the current episode or better to say i dont have 0.001% interest too left in me 😭

And the fact that i loved both JODHA AND AKBAR , not any single one !!! As it is , i was ardent fan of the soul connect , that was shown in the beginning and storyline made wonders with powerful performances , to make feel every fan proud of watching this serial ...

So true, if not for Jodha - I would have even stopped thinking about JA. It is only Jodha that still kept me interested to know what is happening. I do not think after reading wu that I will start watching it again. They have butchered Jodha so badly there is nothing left for Jodha fans here.

I must say Jalal has lived upto his word. Cos the Jodha I see now - is a victim, has no self respect or pride left.

Yes di , he has proved to make his word correct ... i wholeheartedly agreed to this point !!! THE JODHA i loved was a woman with Rajvanshi valour , Self esteem and had the guts to point out their mistakes to everyone and face them even if he is SHEHANSHAH of hindustan 👏👏 but now she is lost irrevocably that we will never ever find even that trait in her

So true, forget that Jodha we do not find those traits in her. What has Jodha been turned into? More and more it seems like Jalal is back to what he was at start of JA and Jodha is turned into a defeated spiritless without self respect woman.

I just do not get why NOBODY ELSE felt that guilt! Never even voiced it or accepted their share of the blame.

Jalal just seemed angry to me - how DARE it happen to HIM? I wonder if he felt the guilt? As a Shehenshah for not being able to protect the waris? As a father for not able to protect his twins? As a husband of Jodha at laying ALL the blame on her for the few hours she spent with him - out of her love and care for her injured husband?

This one i must say was the biggest and worsest heartbreak of all the fans , who were being patient even after the horrenduos khyber - atifa track , mirchi war track or even big than the baby sharing track !!!

That one blame of him , that word from him to the love of his life( or so called) who could not understand the love she had for him , Sigh!!! How could this claim to be "EPIC LOVE" story , if it does not have even the basic sense of love ... to accompany ur love in all the happiness and sorrow

Bang on line! What kind of love an desert the person you love at the worst time of her life? Not just that to conveniently put all blame on her and let the real culprit go scot free! Forget epic the love story ended then.

When Jalal turned away from her in blame for 3-1/2 years - not even acknowledging her pranams and treating her like dirt?

That was even more worse , and on that day i couldnt even believe that 3 years have passed and still had hopes with the show

I could not watch further after I realized it was 3-1/2 years and Jalal did not even feel he blamed Jodha unjustly - rather even after blaming Ruk he told her no matter WHAT SHE DOES he will always be by her side! Jalal even hid it from Jodha that Ruk wanted Salim!

This Jodha instead of clearing up her name, to show mirror to those who did not stand by her - just takes and takes the abuse and even says sorry to her abusers!

When only AFTER getting Salim this Jalal tells her he will always stand by her - does Jodha believe him?! Does she think where was he and his love for last 3-1/2 years? Where was he when she needed him most?

I don't recognize this Jodha at all.

This is wat i couldn't digest at all , and hate it to the core even more than ruq crap 🤢

I simply couldnt see such a brave n unique woman of history reduced to doormat in ekta's NR 🤢

A woman who was shown learning to read and write Urdu in her first year of marriage - who could read Humanyun-nama - after 15 years of marriage she can't use the right words it seems!

This is something that i laughed out loud , when read in Wu 😆😆

As i completely baffled again with heights of idiocity the cvs are dishing to us 😡😡

Jodha had her self respect dignity when Jalal was against her - later when she fell in love for briefest periods she had him with her - NOW Jodha neither has her self respect her pride nor she has Jalal.

A strong rich powerful PH run by women - but they just turn their strong powerful lead - a Queen who was an accomplished woman - who had army under her control, who was given the power to issue farmans, who ran trade and did so much more in 16^th Century - the 21^st Century PH has made her helpless victim.

Every woman deserves to be treated like a queen but here they have turned an actual queen into a doormat.

It's a bitter truth that we cant deny , but could do nothing to change this as a once ardent fans of JA(now RA) ... I always had a extra interest to history since my childhood and that is wat made me to see JKR and now JA , but i am happy that atleast i got to know abt REAL HISTORY ( thanks to abhay) if not his post i would have foolishly believed wat they have shown in this NR to be true !!!

Thanks to Abhay we know differently! CVs use NR term most conveniently! Jodha Jalal had not separated rather it was Ruk who Akbar had stopped talking for years but CVs use NR to glorify Ruk and show insults and humiliations of Jodha instead!

I had read this said by Jaya Bachhan somewhere - that why women are said to fall hopelessly or helplessly in love? It should be hopefully in love.

That was indeed a wonderful quote Maddy di 👏👏 , I believe in this totally that love should make people strong to face everything in their life and not to make them weak in front of everyone who deceive u ... And here i like to say that i equally love JODHA AND AKBAR and not anyone instead , but in ma pov i now feel sad and hurt to have showered so much love and time to only get this back 😕

I think i have blurted too long , so i end this here and Maddy di thanks again for making such a awesome post for our ONCE loved JODHA and dedicating it to her 👏👏👏

Originally posted by: jiya.k

hi...maddy long time dear hope u r good...not only our jodha bt our beloved akdha also killed mercilessly by cvs just becoz of their amar prem for jiska naam lena bhi paap hai n u r rite jodha is only ekta heroine who never fighting with vamp bt gv respect to vamp n always ready to become defence lawyer for her n the reason of this only one cvs wants only glorify one actoress n make her lead actually nt only lead but only character in show n make leads n other supporting actors whether salima, maan singh, todarmal list is endless just part of crowd...

Originally posted by: tamy267

Maddy, thanks for making a post dedicating to Jodha..very good attempt.👏👍🏼

though I dont agree many of your points but I applaud u for highlighting the downhill of Jodha which is heart-breaking to see.💔

Maddy, it seems u r stuck in Hussain death track still now.. u every where write the same thing about Jalal...and I dont want to write again n again which I wrote many a times during that track...I am done..I dont want to repeat it everywhere...toh chodho.

I know u were very hurt and the love story ended for u right then...but I dont think it that way..u read my post and comments...not dragging it here...but itna bolungi forget, forgive and move on! it will give u peace trust me!! its a show after all..isski wajah se apne aap ko taqleef mat do..if this thought hurts u and causes u pain then pls pls pls dont think about it over n over again and hurt your heart...just bhool jao aur acchi yaadein apne paas rakho...thik hai?🤗

Thanks Tamy 😃 I know you mean well.

I am sorry but I do not feel some things can be just brushed aside. We were promised an epic love story and I would think it should mean be together no matter what - in good and bad times. Especially during bad times - good times anybody will be together!

To blame an innocent woman but let the guilty one go scot free is not something I can just ignore and gush about Jalal's love. Did Jalal not have any responsibility towards safety of his twins? Did not Jalal Ruk HB SB everybody trust Zeenat? Why then put all blame on Jodha and absolve themselves of the guilt?

I did not stop watching when Jalal blamed Jodha - cos I still had faith in Jalal that he will realize he blamed her unfairly and admit to her later. Instead Jalal continued to blame Jodha deserted her for 3-1/2 years.

When Ruk asked for Salim - Jalal finally admitted he blamed her for Zeenat and MUZ but he never said this to Jodha. So Jodha was still in guilt.
Why did Jalal not tell Jodha that Ruk was asking for Salim? Why hide it from Jodha?
Why are Jodha's insults and humiliations in public but Ruk is fussed about and talked in her hojara?

I do not understand how can anybody feel it is love if a man deserts the one he should stand by at her worst time. I stopped watching only after Jalal assured Ruk he will always stand by her. After this there is nothing left of love story. Would ANYBODY trust a person who deserts one in their worst times? The one who professes love?

Who has Jalal stood by? Jodha or Ruk? I would think he should care about clearing Jodha's name but all he cared for was Ruk.

Zee told it was Ruk downfall instead it was Jodha's downfall and punishment!

anyway, yes I miss the old Jodha a lot! the fiery princess the no nonsense girl, the proud and high self-esteemed Jodha is nowhere here in JA...what this Jodha does? does pooja singing oh manmohan every morning, distributes laddoo, sings so ja so ja mere kanhaiya to Salim every night, makes rangoli, smiles, roams around anguri baag, does tel malish to baap-beta and kabhi kabhi a conversation with them, and keeps silence when vamp insults her...to top it all this Jodha who read Humayunnama and had been learning Urdu for najane kitne years cannot speak a simple Urdu phrase properly!!! wah bhai wah! this is what a Mughal Saltanat's Mariam-Uz-Zamani is doing!! what a shame! a woman who had the power of issuing farmans in Shehenshah's absence, a woman who ran her own ship business and had a rank of 12,000 cavalry, a woman who actively participated in every court proceedings is now shown like a doormat or better say a bandi! pathetic! what izzat CVs giving to a legendary lady who had huge influence on the greatest emperor the world has ever seen in his way of becoming great...unnke rooh maf nahi karegi...dono ki...they didnt leave any of the great souls to be a matter of mockery.

u know how many times I tweeted this to Manish? but CVs have no interest in showing MUZ's power...vamps r their favorite..giving wrong titles to them and snatching powers of the leads..probably the only Ekta show where show runs with more screen space of vamps and leads acting dumb in front of her.

no I dont agree its Ruqaiyya-Akbar...coz Jalal is not shown with her at all...it has become SalimKali aur Ruqaiyya! to promote the new lot they r sidelining the leads..yes Jalal is very much there and in fact he has emerged more stronger post leap at the same time Jodha is reduced to a housewife...who will say she is a warrior? a warrior princes will never stop her son the crown prince to learn shamsherbazi/nishanabaazi in fact she personally will teach all those to her son!

khair, rant is done...this post is for our darling Jodha who changed the meaning of female leads in Indian TV by acting strong against all odds.

lots of love.❤️

Originally posted by: Nanayaa623

Maddy this is you pouring out your heart and I hope it will give you some closure.

Nanayaa thank you for your wonderful PMs. I was busy so did not get a chance to send long replies.

Your words a bang on - "closure" - yes I do not feel we have got closure. What started from the episode of Jodha Jalal wedding anniversary - the Ruk fake pregnancy track - it has been Ruk plot and get away with everything all the time. It has left a sour taste.

From my perspective and understanding on this issue right from the beginning of the Serial we saw a 'character of reel Jodha' we fell for as a young woman who was loving, daring, sensitive to her 'family' , intelligent, discerning and a trained warrior. We saw a side of her that she loves animals, and would advocate for anyone who was in need of justice irrespective of where they come from. We were also shown that despite this soft side of hers there is a fierce side too. She did not allow anyone to infringe on her rights and dignity and not afraid to pick up the sword and fight.

I cannot but marvel at Jodha - imagine being lied to by her parents about the identity of her would-be husband - made to marry the man she despised - who admits he did it to break her spirit as revenge - go into literal enemy's house and different religion culture and atmosphere. Then to have her husband and almost everybody plot against her to degrade her and to stand upto everything that was thrown at her with dignity and grace. To form wonderful relationships out of these circumstances. To earn the respect of the man. How wonderfully she earned a rightful space for herself.

However after the seperation track and Jodha returned from Amber that Jodha disappeared into thin air after a couple of episodes (for the conveinence of CV team I guess). We are now shown a Jodha as a 'weak woman' who is so much in love with Jalal and puts up with everything and anyone just for his sake. Her intelligence seems to have ceased, she doesn't discern nor think deep anymore of peoples actions and intentions (where is the Jodha who was able to discern that the prison gaurd at that gate in Amer was not part of them and something is fishy???) she now takes decisions impulsively and most is all for Jalal 'in the name of love and husband's honor' as if that is not enough weakness already for some of us. Jodha is shown to be putting up with Rukaiya wimps without standing up for her rights and dignity. With this new Jodha the CV team have failed to balance her character between the soft and fiercy sides for a very long time. We are seeing too much of the soft side which sometimes is also unrealistic. At least with Jalal he is shown having his moments( teda occasional) and moving between his heart side and mind side; one time he is 'cold and cooly high' the next moment he is 'too hot to handle' well why can't we have Jodha also having her moments?

Agree totally with the lines I turned bold. The moment Jodha came back from Amer - this was turned into Ruk centric serial. I do not remember a single good scene between Jodha Jalal that Ruk did not interrupt - the first hug, the first WA, the SR morning. The Ruk fake pregnancy track turned Jodha into a bandi - made to press Ruk's feet also 😡 She seems to have been losing her spirit her intelligence her self respect her pride everything since then.



The Writer (s) also initially referred to Jodha as a 'tigress' (so where is their tigress is she lying low for now?) I also want her back to balance the soft side we are see now. As a tigress her characteristics mention below should not fade out in the face of love. We have seen glimpse of her passionate side, devotion, independence, strength, focus, perseverance, courage, will power, sensuality, confidence, silence, determination, feminine energy and acting in a timely manner. However the SILENCE PHASE have lasted too long.

What wonderful lines, I turned into red. 👏👏👏
Jodha had all those qualities. However now she seems just foolish doormat and without any self respect. The tigress has been turned into a sacred mouse!

The Writer(s) of this serial have become too shallow in their ideas and thinking narrowing down only on family conflicts, jealousy, power hunger, more than love and positive works or achievements on these historical characters they have chosen to portayal.

It had become too negative. There is not even a contest any more. Vamps and villains rule they plot and the leads never get a clue, the vamps and villains never get punished but leads seem to be! The overwhelming feeling in JA for months was negativity and doom. The bad tracks ran for weeks but good ones were wrapped in 1-2 episodes.
The end of Badal Kajri track was Jalal sleeping inside a tent with Ruk and Jodha who was recovering from drinking poison for him - made to sleep outside in the open! I consider it one of the worst scenes of JA.
How can ANY MAN do this to ANY WOMAN? Forget love or wife just any woman?!

To me all the prominent historical characters have being misrepresented one way or the other all in the name of fiction and since we all have favorite character either real or reel in this Serial we all get irritated with most of the contents of what is being shown however it's obvious from the viewership in the country that such drama sells more and even though people complain and say they will not watch well they still do if not Jodha Akbar will be out of the best 5 by now.

Hopefully the writers will hear the outcry of Jodha fans like they did hear for Akbar and in the coming episodes something will happen that will bring out the Jodha we want to see until then peace and love.

I love your positivity. I am not watching JA cos I could not bear to. I read some comments that children's track are always loved. Maybe the viewers were sick of negativity and are enjoying the kids story. Yes they have butchered both Jodha and Jalal from time to time. Somehow vamps and villains only are allowed to have brains!

Red line in bold - I really love your positivity - I do not think they care about Jodha character anymore. It will be a huge surprise if Jodha is restored!

Thanks for such wonderful post Nanayaa. You are a wonderful insightful writer and I really enjoyed reading it.
I still keep thinking about your word "closure" - maybe this is why still here on forum writing about JA even though I have stopped watching.
I guess I need closure from JA! 😆