Meandering Musings on Mughal Relations - Page 5

Originally posted by: history_geek

Radhika

Hats off for this post. You have analyzed the intriguing relationships in an amazing manner, without even watching the episodes. 👏

Thank you, Abhay!

I can not write much, as i am not watching the episodes. Just reading WU's when possible.
Now, the CV's are not shying away from showing anything.

You have written about Salim-Ruqayya.

I want to touch upon the new promo. What kind of epic love story is this.?. The leads always have MU, Since the starting of this show, there is nothing but MU. Jashans are meant for "arranging" conspiracies, and no celebrations for kids birth.?.

When Zeenat poisoned one of the kids, an elaborate jashan was shown and when Salim was born nothing happened.?. And rather, they skipped every positive event in the life of Ja-Jo.?.

Coming to latest promo, i don't know what to say. 🤢 Both JJ have been turned into some brainless beings, none behaving in a manner expected. More than this what to say.?.

What is the new promo? I don't know about it. So I can't comment.

BTW, as expected Ruqayya got away even after drugging the kid Salim. And i am not at all, enjoying this storyline. Young minds are very impressionable and curious, they are KEEN on experimenting on such things, after watching it.

Mughal Harem had it's vices, but there are many positive things, to be shown.
Why to focus on such negative activities.. They could have shown it in VO, if they had to show this only. 😳 They skip the best parts for VO's and focus on plots and plots in details .!!

True. Wonder why the good parts are skipped or hurried through as fast as possible and the negative parts just drag on and on. I also find this whole drugging issue deplorable and I seriously wish this serial is stopped if such things are continued to be shown.

Ruqaiyya has been gifted eternal friendship, so she can get away with anything. 😕

Originally posted by: history_geek

Bang On post Cleo.. 😃
Especially the sarcasm in the one i have underlined.😆.😉.

There is no means by which one can predict what's going to happen.
Yes, you are right, Daniyal was raised in Amer by wife of Raja Bharmal, but in our show's Nautanki Rupanter, he is in Agra, that too with Ruqsar Begum. 😕😡

Well, the CV's are seemingly more interested in bringing in fiction rather showing the reality.
They have not shown Shakrunissa Begum, a very loving sister of Salim. 🥱

And, hell bent at introducing negativity in name of Haider, a fictional character.
Nothing much is left.

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Qutub is the son of Salim's daimaa ,shamshad begum.

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Nabiii

Good resolve - hope you are able to stick to it.😛

Your post reminded me of something I read recently. It said that when a cat sits on a hot stove, it learns never to sit on a hot stove again. This is a good thing. The trouble is that the cat doesn't sit on a cold stove also the next time.

Similarly we have become so used to feeling negatively about everything in this show that now we don't trust any character, not even benign ones like Salima.😕

Thanks for reminding me about Ruqsar.😊

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Thanks Radhika for the PM.I just watch one scene if it's recommended by everyone but nowadays I dare not watch the entire show.Politics also known as " siyasat " is always dirty game .And whether it's our parliament today or it's Mughal Darbar ,the era is different but still the game is same.

The stories of how this game was being played had always amused us .In current era too ,we had so many stories of who were behind the "missing" of one great freedom fighter ,what exactly happened with one of the sons of one of our great prime ministers and so on.Then Mughal household is no exception.Why Mughal household any kings household would have stories of jealous queens trying to harm the heirs.

May be Ruqiayya begum must not have made Salim addicted to Opium but she def must have done many things to retain her position as she would have felt insecure for being childless.

Though Salima will stay away from this jealousy and plotting etc but we can't talk the same about Ruksar.Though she was shown initially in Jodha's camp but with her own son so now she can just switch to other camp as we can't take her to be intelligent and saintly like Salima.

Def Haider is being poisoned by Resham and she is playing the same game with Ruku too so she has forgotten that Jodha had once saved her from being killed by same Ruku.

One thing I still don't understand that a woman like Salima is still so ignorant of Haider's influence on her son.Radhika ,aren't we mothers so vigilant about influences on our young kids ? What is Salima doing then ?

And there was one interesting thing which I read in yesterday's episode about Anarkali asking to see the mahal.This is very " interesting".Now we will soon see Anarkali getting license to enter the mahal and roaming in the corridors of Mahal.Alongside ,Ruku is drugging Salim.Now we might see Anarkali while roaming in the palace might witness this and might " expose" this plot.Look ,she has to do some heroic thing as she is the lead of our season 2 atleast till her " so called " death.

And last but not the least ,but nowadays Jodha is more of a wife and mother and stopped being MUZ or queen or is not deliberately shown as one because for cvs only one person can be royal that is " Ruku" .Jalal is a King and trying to be a doting father too but is not a husband to Jodha atleast,

If he was the same Jalal then we would have seen he looking for Jodha's reactions when he crowned Salim,we would have seen Jalal telling Salim that his words that "savior is greater than killer " reminds him of this mother .But this we didn't see and this clearly tells many things.

And the new promo talks about MU again .Its time for Jajo now to go for " marital counseling" I think.

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Wonderful post radhika 😳 I stopped watching ja but reading updates n seeing episode pics and blasting manish cv on Twitter 😆

Seems to be a popular pastime nowadays. Blasting Manish on Twitter. 😆

so my assumptions predictions may b totlaly wrong ...
1) this is typical Ekta style any love story strts with hate... So SA r now in that stage aftr sme days we may see frnship blossoming btw these two which Inturn turns to divine love according to our cvs

This seems to be everyone's opinion that EK will follow hate-friendship-love routine. Whatever she does, the storyline is so humdrum. JJ are now supporting actors and the focus on SA and Ruqaiyya is making the show such a pathetic watch. 😕

2)though manish said that Salima raised murad but in serial I think jalal Salima had relation n Salima is biological mother of murad... She raised rahim well by being strict to him and at the same time showin love to him... But same wil not go to murad... As he is her son she wil pamper him a lot as he is shehzada... Dint Salima say anythng wen murad was talking lik tat to rahim? Yes in future murad wil b against rahim also along with salim... Who knows even Salima may turn grey role by supporting murad for throne and she also has one farman which she can use at any time...

Nabiii also feels same but somehow I wish to continue to believe in Salima's goodness. But one can never say anything for sure with these CVs.

3)rukayya is gng to control salim by drugging him which she alredy strtd... I also think that ruk is controlling jalal in this way by drugging him. When she dimt leave nine years kid y wil she leave jalal? She is no more human she doesn't feel pity on kid also.. It's sad to see that she wil never b caught watevr she does as jalla has said that she wil always remain his frn... Salim does eveythnh with heart then how cme ruk can control him, ? This is biggest blooper by cvs.. If she has power to control heart then she wud Have done to jalal also ...

Bhavna, now you are goofing up. Ruq CONTROLS jalal - haven't you seen how much he listens to her and is afraid of punishing her? But I don't think she needs drugs to control him. He is already under her thumb.

She will control Salim through drugs. Which she has already started. 😕

4) I saw one hr special episode on weekend n daniyal looks chubby and he is salim frn n ruksar bevum is his mother.. Ruksar begum is the one who showed Jodha the slavery of harem and also voted Jodha to become BEK.. Jalal asked ruksar begun whether she wil control harem... As far now she is quite good character..

Hope Ruqsar begum stays positive and doesn't let any political ambitions blind her vision and judgment. Was there a special episode on the weekend?

5)yes I thight same wen I saw... Salim daniyal qutub on one side n murad haider on other side... It's lik Jodha Salima on one side n ruk Maham on other side in previous episodes n stiry wil b repeated same with kids... Haider instigating murad on salim just lik Maham did to ruk on Jodha... Now ruk is lik Maham but more dangerous than Maham as Maham neve tried to drug jalal or kill jalla ...
6) Resham is the person who keeps spoiling haider telling abt Maham adham I giess ... Resham officially became ruk slave wat happend to hoshiyar? Resham wil help ruk in all culprt things...

Originally posted by: lasyap3

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Originally posted by: Sweet24

Now I sm really not intrested as its all natikya rupantar or the proper word is fake, illusion of CVs, it too pathetic to watch a child became a drug addict.
I have decided to leave the show.

Originally posted by: Suganya.S

Hi Radhika di 😊😊

Good post and interesting views indeed 👏👏 , Though R-Angle was something i didnt anticipate in all this NR 😆😆😆 But i have a gut feeling , that Ruq's plan will unfold( eventhough rare and distant possibility 😉😃 and cant be expected from cvs)

Now i have totally become immune to all the relations and characters in Agra mental asylum 🥱 So watever Ruq - the lead of this show does i wont be surprised as she is total DAYAAN for me now🤢

SA track so far proves that they are taking the same path HATRED-FRIENDSHIp-LOVE of all hindi serials , and i knew we cant expect any more But i doubt whether we will see other players i.e JA,JO,HB,SB will have something to do this or not 🥱🥱

Originally posted by: tamy267

wonderful post Radhika...beautiful!👏hats off to u! very through provoking post I must say.❤️

totally loved it.

Ruksar Begum is Jodha's friend, not Ruqaiyya's.

Resham is really a character to watch out for...but he is being seen with Ruqaiyya more than Haider..that confuses me who is poisoning Haider if not Resham? 🤔

Salim is totally a Ammijaan's son...but it was clear from today he is gradually coming under Ruqaiyya's influence..at first he felt dizzy drinking opium mixed with milk, thankfully Jalal took him to Jodha's hojra..but Jodha was amazed seeing Salim falling asleep without hearing her lullaby.

and the next night he fell asleep in Ruqaiyya's lap after having opium mixed with laddoos..though he wished to go to Jodha for lullaby but Ruqaiyya started her bed time stories.

it is clear gradually Salim is going under her control...feels terrible to see an innocent child getting spoiled by someone evil.😭 how much I love his innocence and those masoom baatein😭

khair, I am pointing another 2 relations in your post-

7. JodhaAkbar and fans- fans i.g we loved this show to the core and invested quite a lot time watching, analyzing, discussing and even fighting for it..we took every crap and gave our valuable suggestions to the CVs for the betterment of this show due to our selfless love for it..but gradually seeing the dripping storyline and unnecessary leap and CVs not valuing our plea made many of us quit it, but all of us still r hoping one day we will get the magic back.

8. JodhaAkbar and Creatives- CVs created a magic last year on June 18th..they put all their efforts in research, invested huge money, put 1000% hard work to make the dream project successful and to make audience knowing some unknown yet must know facts of history..CVs succeeded in their effort..the magic was so powerful that no one could ignore the spell..CVs as a result of their hard work got huge TRPs along with love of audience..gradually they started becoming overconfident and started including crap tracks given that now the show has audience so whatever they dish out, audience can not avoid, we will watch out of our addiction..original CVs left, new set of CVs joined in and started taking distorted events from highly fabricated accounts and esp. the most crass site wikipedia to develop tracks..after all whats wrong in showing distorted history? they have audience and TRPs..and they r not answerable to anyone, they have disclaimer dude! the hard work, research, efforts gone down the drain, now only money matters.

hope I didnt spoil your post.

lots of love.❤️