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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wonderful post radhika 😳 I stopped watching ja but reading updates n seeing episode pics and blasting manish cv on Twitter 😆 so my assumptions predictions may b totlaly wrong ...
1) this is typical Ekta style any love story strts with hate... So SA r now in that stage aftr sme days we may see frnship blossoming btw these two which Inturn turns to divine love according to our cvs
2)though manish said that Salima raised murad but in serial I think jalal Salima had relation n Salima is biological mother of murad... She raised rahim well by being strict to him and at the same time showin love to him... But same wil not go to murad... As he is her son she wil pamper him a lot as he is shehzada... Dint Salima say anythng wen murad was talking lik tat to rahim? Yes in future murad wil b against rahim also along with salim... Who knows even Salima may turn grey role by supporting murad for throne and she also has one farman which she can use at any time...
3)rukayya is gng to control salim by drugging him which she alredy strtd... I also think that ruk is controlling jalal in this way by drugging him. When she dimt leave nine years kid y wil she leave jalal? She is no more human she doesn't feel pity on kid also.. It's sad to see that she wil never b caught watevr she does as jalla has said that she wil always remain his frn... Salim does eveythnh with heart then how cme ruk can control him, ? This is biggest blooper by cvs.. If she has power to control heart then she wud Have done to jalal also ...
4) I saw one hr special episode on weekend n daniyal looks chubby and he is salim frn n ruksar bevum is his mother.. Ruksar begum is the one who showed Jodha the slavery of harem and also voted Jodha to become BEK.. Jalal asked ruksar begun whether she wil control harem... As far now she is quite good character..
5)yes I thight same wen I saw... Salim daniyal qutub on one side n murad haider on other side... It's lik Jodha Salima on one side n ruk Maham on other side in previous episodes n stiry wil b repeated same with kids... Haider instigating murad on salim just lik Maham did to ruk on Jodha... Now ruk is lik Maham but more dangerous than Maham as Maham neve tried to drug jalal or kill jalla ...
6) Resham is the person who keeps spoiling haider telling abt Maham adham I giess ... Resham officially became ruk slave wat happend to hoshiyar? Resham wil help ruk in all culprt things...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: AKT.JA

Can someone please remind me the place of Qutub in the family? Thanks.

Qutub is the son of Salim's daimaa ,shamshad begum.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Regarding R factor:


Apart from what you said. I also find my theories interesting(though they are unlikely to happen)


I think that Resham has got her own mission like BARBAAD RUQAIYYA, for taking revenge for her mistress Maham Anga

Or simply it might be like this that Resham Khan is just a symbolism for BEK turning the BADI AMMI and the Maham Anga in Salim's life...


However I find your theory more fitting for the present scenario
Edited by lasyap3 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ruqaiyya and Salim's relation:


Regarding this interesting relation, I have only few words,rest all you guys have said it...(We already know that what is the real scenario in the history for this particular relationship😉)


Only about the REEL RELATION;;;


"In their innocence, very young children know themselves to be light and love. If we will allow them, they can teach us to see ourselves the same way. "

Salim has a paak saaf dil which is evident form his actions...He always listens to his DIL.That's the reason perhaps Salim might have not considered (for times one or two) Jodha amongst his TWO Ammijaan's...

We are being shown that Salim is CLOSE to his BADI AMMIJAAN...


"Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance."

Ruqaiyya bechaari doesn't know the matters of DIL ,thus wants Salim to be always favour her and she to be his dominating BADI AMMIJAAN, at any cost...So for having her control over him,she uses the opium as her weapon...(Such a cheap way of NR🤢) I should applaud the CVs for this...👏


"One could only damage oneself through the harm one did to others. One could never get directly at oneself."
Edited by lasyap3 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Now I sm really not intrested as its all natikya rupantar or the proper word is fake, illusion of CVs, it too pathetic to watch a child became a drug addict.
I have decided to leave the show.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Radhika di 😊😊
Good post and interesting views indeed 👏👏 , Though R-Angle was something i didnt anticipate in all this NR 😆😆😆 But i have a gut feeling , that Ruq's plan will unfold( eventhough rare and distant possibility 😉😃 and cant be expected from cvs)
Now i have totally become immune to all the relations and characters in Agra mental asylum 🥱 So watever Ruq - the lead of this show does i wont be surprised as she is total DAYAAN for me now🤢
SA track so far proves that they are taking the same path HATRED-FRIENDSHIp-LOVE of all hindi serials , and i knew we cant expect any more But i doubt whether we will see other players i.e JA,JO,HB,SB will have something to do this or not 🥱🥱
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Posted: 10 years ago
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wonderful post Radhika...beautiful!👏hats off to u! very throught provoking post I must say.❤️
totally loved it.
Ruksar Begum is Jodha's friend, not Ruqaiyya's.
Resham is really a character to watch out for...but he is being seen with Ruqaiyya more than Haider..that confuses me who is poisoning Haider if not Resham? 🤔
Salim is totally a Ammijaan's son...but it was clear from today he is gradually coming under Ruqaiyya's influence..at first he felt dizzy drinking opium mixed with milk, thankfully Jalal took him to Jodha's hojra..but Jodha was amazed seeing Salim falling asleep without hearing her lullaby.
and the next night he fell asleep in Ruqaiyya's lap after having opium mixed with laddoos..though he wished to go to Jodha for lullaby but Ruqaiyya started her bed time stories.
it is clear gradually Salim is going under her control...feels terrible to see an innocent child getting spoiled by someone evil.😭 how much I love his innocence and those masoom baatein😭

khair, I am pointing another 2 relations in your post-

7. JodhaAkbar and fans- fans i.g we loved this show to the core and invested quite a lot time watching, analyzing, discussing and even fighting for it..we took every crap and gave our valuable suggestions to the CVs for the betterment of this show due to our selfless love for it..but gradually seeing the dripping storyline and unnecessary leap and CVs not valuing our plea made many of us quit it, but all of us still r hoping one day we will get the magic back.

8. JodhaAkbar and Creatives- CVs created a magic last year on June 18th..they put all their efforts in research, invested huge money, put 1000% hard work to make the dream project successful and to make audience knowing some unknown yet must know facts of history..CVs succeeded in their effort..the magic was so powerful that no one could ignore the spell..CVs as a result of their hard work got huge TRPs along with love of audience..gradually they started becoming overconfident and started including crap tracks given that now the show has audience so whatever they dish out, audience can not avoid, we will watch out of our addiction..original CVs left, new set of CVs joined in and started taking distorted events from highly fabricated accounts and esp. the most crass site wikipedia to develop tracks..after all whats wrong in showing distorted history? they have audience and TRPs..and they r not answerable to anyone, they have disclaimer dude! the hard work, research, efforts gone down the drain, now only money matters.

hope I didnt spoil your post.

lots of love.❤️
Edited by tamy267 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

wonderful post Radhika...beautiful!👏hats off to u! very through provoking post I must say.❤️

totally loved it.
Ruksar Begum is Jodha's friend, not Ruqaiyya's.
Resham is really a character to watch out for...but he is being seen with Ruqaiyya more than Haider..that confuses me who is poisoning Haider if not Resham? 🤔
Salim is totally a Ammijaan's son...but it was clear from today he is gradually coming under Ruqaiyya's influence..at first he felt dizzy drinking opium mixed with milk, thankfully Jalal took him to Jodha's hojra..but Jodha was amazed seeing Salim falling asleep without hearing her lullaby.
and the next night he fell asleep in Ruqaiyya's lap after having opium mixed with laddoos..though he wished to go to Jodha for lullaby but Ruqaiyya started her bed time stories.
it is clear gradually Salim is going under her control...feels terrible to see an innocent child getting spoiled by someone evil.😭 how much I love his innocence and those masoom baatein😭

khair, I am pointing another 2 relations in your post-

7. JodhaAkbar and fans- fans i.g we loved this show to the core and invested quite a lot time watching, analyzing, discussing and even fighting for it..we took every crap and gave our valuable suggestions to the CVs for the betterment of this show due to our selfless love for it..but gradually seeing the dripping storyline and unnecessary leap and CVs not valuing our plea made many of us quit it, but all of us still r hoping one day we will get the magic back.

8. JodhaAkbar and Creatives- CVs created a magic last year on June 18th..they put all their efforts in research, invested huge money, put 1000% hard work to make the dream project successful and to make audience knowing some unknown yet must know facts of history..CVs succeeded in their effort..the magic was so powerful that no one could ignore the spell..CVs as a result of their hard work got huge TRPs along with love of audience..gradually they started becoming overconfident and started including crap tracks given that now the show has audience so whatever they dish out, audience can not avoid, we will watch out of our addiction..original CVs left, new set of CVs joined in and started taking distorted events from highly fabricated accounts and esp. the most crass site wikipedia to develop tracks..after all whats wrong in showing distorted history? they have audience and TRPs..and they r not answerable to anyone, they have disclaimer dude! the hard work, research, efforts gone down the drain, now only money matters.

hope I didnt spoil your post.

lots of love.❤️



well said tamy...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks Radhka for this lovely post. interesting views. I stopped thinking way back Radhika as I have given up on this serial.I do frequently visit this forum to have some fun time with our lovely friends.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Thanks Radhika for the PM.I just watch one scene if it's recommended by everyone but nowadays I dare not watch the entire show.Politics also known as " siyasat " is always dirty game .And whether it's our parliament today or it's Mughal Darbar ,the era is different but still the game is same.

The stories of how this game was being played had always amused us .In current era too ,we had so many stories of who were behind the "missing" of one great freedom fighter ,what exactly happened with one of the sons of one of our great prime ministers and so on.Then Mughal household is no exception.Why Mughal household any kings household would have stories of jealous queens trying to harm the heirs.
May be Ruqiayya begum must not have made Salim addicted to Opium but she def must have done many things to retain her position as she would have felt insecure for being childless.
Though Salima will stay away from this jealousy and plotting etc but we can't talk the same about Ruksar.Though she was shown initially in Jodha's camp but with her own son so now she can just switch to other camp as we can't take her to be intelligent and saintly like Salima.
Def Haider is being poisoned by Resham and she is playing the same game with Ruku too so she has forgotten that Jodha had once saved her from being killed by same Ruku.
One thing I still don't understand that a woman like Salima is still so ignorant of Haider's influence on her son.Radhika ,aren't we mothers so vigilant about influences on our young kids ? What is Salima doing then ?
And there was one interesting thing which I read in yesterday's episode about Anarkali asking to see the mahal.This is very " interesting".Now we will soon see Anarkali getting license to enter the mahal and roaming in the corridors of Mahal.Alongside ,Ruku is drugging Salim.Now we might see Anarkali while roaming in the palace might witness this and might " expose" this plot.Look ,she has to do some heroic thing as she is the lead of our season 2 atleast till her " so called " death.
And last but not the least ,but nowadays Jodha is more of a wife and mother and stopped being MUZ or queen or is not deliberately shown as one because for cvs only one person can be royal that is " Ruku" .Jalal is a King and trying to be a doting father too but is not a husband to Jodha atleast,
If he was the same Jalal then we would have seen he looking for Jodha's reactions when he crowned Salim,we would have seen Jalal telling Salim that his words that "savior is greater than killer " reminds him of this mother .But this we didn't see and this clearly tells many things.
And the new promo talks about MU again .Its time for Jajo now to go for " marital counseling" I think.



Good writeup Rashmi.😊

Just like you have mentioned, I too feel that eventually, it may be Nadira who sees Rukaiyya mixing opium with Salim's food/snacks, during one of her visits to the mahal. Nadira is already miffed with Rukaiyya for asking her to apologize for a mistake that the little girl had not committed. This lilliput of a spitfire 😊, is not likely to forget that it is due to Rukaiyya that her father has lost his job in the mahal.Using the entire situation to her advantage, she may tell her mother, exactly what she had witnessed, who in turn will inform Jodha.

I think, this is how the Creatives are thinking of progressing with the story line. Initially we saw Jodha and Jalal constantly at loggerheads with each other, before they finally fell in love. In this case fights between Salim and Anarkali have begun as early as elementary school stage, and then as they age, 'bepanah mohabbat' will slowly follow.

I think Salima is already aware of Haider's negative influence over Murad.We saw her taking him away from Haider during the jealousy induced outburst last week. Again, the Creatives are inconsistent. They show Salima as indifferent to Murad's disrespect and rudeness towards Rahim. She just smiles and shakes her head at his jealous reactions toward Salim and his unfavorable opinions of the shehenshah.😲 . Yet it was the same Salima, whom we have seen scolding Rahim as a little boy whenever he erred.

The Creatives have MESSED UP BIG TIME by showing Rukaiyya drugging little Salim with opium. Pata nahin, aur kya kya dikhayenge.
After noticing a disoriented and dizzy Salim, in Rukaiyya's company, shouldn't the perceptive Shehenshah be suspicious of something amiss?
The Creatives have turned Jalal into a dull-witted,faltering emperor from an intuitive one. I will not be surprised if Jodha is termed an irresponsible mother again.😡




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Edited by Charu.S - 10 years ago

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