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Posted: 10 years ago
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mansi..thank you for the wonderful ananlysis..i have yet to see the episode but yes there seem to be something amiss...even i have this nagging feel from last few episodes...something is not adding up somewhere...

also jalal cannot even assume jodha to be careless...she has never let the kids ,both of them out of her sight even for a single minute when with her other than two occasions..one that dussera wala and now to check on jalal..it wa snot like she was out partying in Agra leaving the child all alone...she entrusted him with all 3 and zeenat was send by ruqaiyya to keep a tab on hussain ...also she is the bhabhi who is family..if ruqaiyya or jalal cannot mistrust her then why would jodha...and already she passed that test with that javida wala incident...

i think the kid was already poisoned when he was with ruqaiyaa and zeenat amaan is just ensuring that he dies as she has already lost her weapon

and jodha cannot be with jalal while the kid falls sick coz either moti or zakira would have come running to her and jalal would have been with her not snoring away and woke only when he heard jodha scream...the precap is misleading

and the promo is again a gist like all other promos ..he will surely be angry at God and wil llose his faith in such trying times..it is but natural for a grieving parent...the love ,the heart and the faith has caused him tremendous pain and everyone he loved more or less have been taken away from him..hence he says no love or no God...

jodha will already be in her own personal hell blaming herself...

i am just curious to know what has ruqaiyya done and am sure it wil lbe revelaed through series of flashbacks...and also how will these two restore their faith ,hope and start their journey fresh ...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: preetgurti

Hey mansi I missed you in weekends alot though I was busy but still
amazing predictions u rock u can think to a extent where we cant even touch
mind blowing

do wrire a book I will buy first copy pakka ae

I am not watching u know still I feel now jodha akbar will actually ginna become one
where physicality part of relationship will take spritual turn
love when go above this it became more deeper pure form thats what now will happen
tabh the akdha are fresh after 450 years we following the love the emotions

they were diff now they gonna spread out the peace to apl the world outside and be the lovers


I have lot to write time is less will be busy today tmr
masi bangayi hoon of handsome baby boy early morning I am so busy
take care cy ltr

coconut breaking is waiting

Haan, yaar, iss track ke fast end ke liye 11 coconuts toh banta hai!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sun29



mansi..thank you for the wonderful ananlysis..i have yet to see the episode but yes there seem to be something amiss...even i have this nagging feel from last few episodes...something is not adding up somewhere...

also jalal cannot even assume jodha to be careless...she has never let the kids ,both of them out of her sight even for a single minute when with her other than two occasions..one that dussera wala and now to check on jalal..it wa snot like she was out partying in Agra leaving the child all alone...she entrusted him with all 3 and zeenat was send by ruqaiyya to keep a tab on hussain ...also she is the bhabhi who is family..if ruqaiyya or jalal cannot mistrust her then why would jodha...and already she passed that test with that javida wala incident...

i think the kid was already poisoned when he was with ruqaiyaa and zeenat amaan is just ensuring that he dies as she has already lost her weapon

and jodha cannot be with jalal while the kid falls sick coz either moti or zakira would have come running to her and jalal would have been with her not snoring away and woke only when he heard jodha scream...the precap is misleading

and the promo is again a gist like all other promos ..he will surely be angry at God and wil llose his faith in such trying times..it is but natural for a grieving parent...the love ,the heart and the faith has caused him tremendous pain and everyone he loved more or less have been taken away from him..hence he says no love or no God...

jodha will already be in her own personal hell blaming herself...

i am just curious to know what has ruqaiyya done and am sure it wil lbe revelaed through series of flashbacks...and also how will these two restore their faith ,hope and start their journey fresh ...

Sunny, as I have been replying all morning to posts, see the beauty of what has happened is that Jalal and Jodha spent the night together and left Husein with Zakira, Moti and Zeenat. Assuming Zeenat did not even have the finger glove with her and the baby seems to have died of fever, the anger of Jodha and Jalal must be aginst their "love " that made spend the night with each other and not with the baby.
Of one thing I am therefore certain. Jalal cannot blame Jodha for the baby neglect even if Ruq says so, because he too willingly spent the night with Jodha. And certainly there can be self-guilt in both of them and collective anger about their "love" but definitely no MU! Unless Jalal wants to pretend as if there's an MU to do his tehkeekaat!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice take , Mansi... yest episode raised more questions with every scene that was shown...and u have voiced most of those questions... still some more r there in my mind, and i m just writing it here...

1. Hussain is a baby of just one month... so while massaging him why Jo has to sit in garden?? nobody tells her that she should do it inside her room? specially, just 1/2 days back they had shown heavy rain and heavy wind also... so how can she take the baby outside that too without any cloths on him?? can a mother be so careless???

2.or is this some stupid ideas from CVs to make Jo look careless in front of all, so that blaming her for kids death will be easy??

3. when Jo felt Hussain has fever, why she didn't call the hakima?? again is it CVs way to show Jo as careless mother , for future drama??

4. When Jo went to Jalal's room after knowing abt his wounds, he seems to be heavily drunk... like he has got some shocking news, and is controlling himself by drinking heavily...is it possible that he has got to know the real culprit behind Hassan's death, and the person can be very close to him??

5. why Jo didn't take Hussain with her to Jalal??? wouldn't it have been easy for her to take care of both her husband and son together??

6.are Jo and Jalal already aware that Hussain has been already poisoned?? my point being, that Salima got that poison finger, and showed it to Jalal... and when Jalal had that finger checked from Hakima, he got to know that the finger has poison on it, and it affects the baby in 5/6 days after it's given...but at the same time there will be effect on the person's hand who uses that finger... and so Salima, tells Jalal abt Zeenat's burnt finger, and now Jalal , Salima and may be Hamida know that Hussain is already been poisoned, and nothing can save him...and that is the reason, why Jalal wants Jo to have her baby, coz it can die any minute...

7. and that means Hakima must have told that Hassan's death also can be due to poison, which can not be detected easily but works fast... and so Hassan died within few hrs of consuming the poison... and here Jalal has asked TM and Maan to search for the culprit... and now he has that identity of the culprit, which has left him shaken???

why CVs r making it more confusing every day??
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Nice take , Mansi... yest episode raised more questions with every scene that was shown...and u have voiced most of those questions... still some more r there in my mind, and i m just writing it here...

1. Hussain is a baby of just one month... so while massaging him why Jo has to sit in garden?? nobody tells her that she should do it inside her room? specially, just 1/2 days back they had shown heavy rain and heavy wind also... so how can she take the baby outside that too without any cloths on him?? can a mother be so careless???

2.or is this some stupid ideas from CVs to make Jo look careless in front of all, so that blaming her for kids death will be easy??

3. when Jo felt Hussain has fever, why she didn't call the hakima?? again is it CVs way to show Jo as careless mother , for future drama??

4. When Jo went to Jalal's room after knowing abt his wounds, he seems to be heavily drunk... like he has got some shocking news, and is controlling himself by drinking heavily...is it possible that he has got to know the real culprit behind Hassan's death, and the person can be very close to him??

5. why Jo didn't take Hussain with her to Jalal??? wouldn't it have been easy for her to take care of both her husband and son together??

6.are Jo and Jalal already aware that Hussain has been already poisoned?? my point being, that Salima got that poison finger, and showed it to Jalal... and when Jalal had that finger checked from Hakima, he got to know that the finger has poison on it, and it affects the baby in 5/6 days after it's given...but at the same time there will be effect on the person's hand who uses that finger... and so Salima, tells Jalal abt Zeenat's burnt finger, and now Jalal , Salima and may be Hamida know that Hussain is already been poisoned, and nothing can save him...and that is the reason, why Jalal wants Jo to have her baby, coz it can die any minute...

7. and that means Hakima must have told that Hassan's death also can be due to poison, which can not be detected easily but works fast... and so Hassan died within few hrs of consuming the poison... and here Jalal has asked TM and Maan to search for the culprit... and now he has that identity of the culprit, which has left him shaken???

why CVs r making it more confusing every day??

Brilliant, Diksha. As usual you have voiced all the areas of concern and questions that were on my mind too and never came out in my post! Especially Point No. 4 above is the very crucial point! Jalal did look drunk and not wounded and it did look like he was shell shocked with Hasan death tehkeekaat!
And as you say maybe they all knew that Husien was too far gone already and on the verge of death anyway!
The thing that I AM FELING VERY STRONG ABOUT is that both babies were killed by two separate people using two different methods of poison. Hasan was killed possibly by Ruq using the swifter vomiting type poison that acts fast, while Husein looks like he has had the slow death after 5 days after sucking Zeenat's glove.
Now the question in my mind is that after seeing her own baby vomiting, did Ruq get the idea of how to poison Hasan? Or was athere a baby switch? Or ws Ruq overdosing hasan when she only wantedto give a mild dose to show that Jodha was neglecting Hasan, but the dose was so high it killed Hasan?
Did you see how Ruq's face was after Hasan died and she got the feeling that Jalal will now ask for Husein. See her face again and you will see "guilt" which we never saw when we looked at that episode the first time!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hey Mansi,
Great analysis. As usual u managed to see beyond what they showed on screen. I was quite upset on reading the wu of the promo but when I managed to watch it i realized it was nothing bad. All I could see was a father so much in pain that he just wanted to put his heart away in a cage so that he could stop feeling the pain of losing his loved ones. I didn't see a husband who was angry with his wife so I don't think he will blame jodha. He may be angry at her for a few moments which is natural. I read someone e else also called zee and he talked nicely to her telling her exactly what he told u n preet n Gem. So I will choose to trust him for now as the other option is too distressing. As for ruqqaiya I am at a point where all I care abt is Jalal n jodha facing this together n being there for each other. Ruqqaiya has already lost by losing her dream of ever being a MUZ, she is already not as close to Jalal as earlier n she no longer has a chance of ever getting another kid of jodha. So I don't care if she is punished or not. As for jodha I don't think she has still learnt her lesson of not being so big hearted when it comes to ruqqaiya. She still doesn't find anything wrong with her behavior. So no one can do anything abt her. U can only save someone if they want to be saved.
I think ruqqaiya may have swapped the kids when Hussein started getting sick but I don't think she personally gave Hassan poison as there is no way in hell Jalal would let her live she did that. No promise would have been able o save her for killing his son. I think today n tomorrow will be sad with everyone crying over Hussein n ruqqaiya screaming and blaming jodha. Thursday we will have some indication of zeenat getting caught and Friday we may have zeenat n Quasim being caught n punished. Ruqqaiya track may come the whole of next week but the question is we r seeing war outfits in pics so does the war sequence come as a next track or is shown along with this one?
Also in the 350 epi celebration pics n segment they showed jodha in pink fully dressed with ruqqaiya n hakima. They showed a small scene where jodha was standing near the window looking out very sadly. Either it is a flashback scene or next track but ruqqaiya was there with her n jodha was wearing all her jewelry n sad but not broken down so I don't know where that fits? What do u think?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Brilliant, Diksha. As usual you have voiced all the areas of concern and questions that were on my mind too and never came out in my post! Especially Point No. 4 above is the very crucial point! Jalal did look drunk and not wounded and it did look like he was shell shocked with Hasan death tehkeekaat!
And as you say maybe they all knew that Husien was too far gone already and on the verge of death anyway!
The thing that I AM FELING VERY STRONG ABOUT is that both babies were killed by two separate people using two different methods of poison. Hasan was killed possibly by Ruq using the swifter vomiting type poison that acts fast, while Husein looks like he has had the slow death after 5 days after sucking Zeenat's glove.
Now the question in my mind is that after seeing her own baby vomiting, did Ruq get the idea of how to poison Hasan? Or was athere a baby switch? Or ws Ruq overdosing hasan when she only wantedto give a mild dose to show that Jodha was neglecting Hasan, but the dose was so high it killed Hasan?
Did you see how Ruq's face was after Hasan died and she got the feeling that Jalal will now ask for Husein. See her face again and you will see "guilt" which we never saw when we looked at that episode the first time!



Mansi, one thing... i don't think Ruku is directly involved... coz if her name comes as Hassan's killer, Jalal won't give her any simple punishment like throwing her away from his life... he will kill her right on spot... so may be Zeenat's name has come up and that he is holding Ruku responsible for Zeenat being in the palace...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice predictions mansi... There r so many doubts n confusions abt this track... The promo first scared me but I want heartless jalal who has guts to punish his Bachpan dost his brothers... He shud b normal with jo Salima hb... I think this whole hussain death is to show that jo is careless m neglected hussain(she dint)bcz if hussain was killed wen he is with ruk then blame wil not go on jo... So all these is to make jo to b blamed... But I'm happy that hussain got to spend his last few days with mom dad not in that vamp hands...
Jo wil b blamed by ruk
1) for spending night with jalal n neglecting hussain
2) I think hussain has fever but zeenat lied n aftr hakima says that hussain had fever last night ruk wil ask jo n jo accepts n ruk wil shout on her that y she dimt call hakima night itslef
3) ruk wil blame that hussain was helathy with her but with jo he became unhealthy as she don't take care of him n she wil also blame jalal here that just lik hassan now jo dimt take care her aulad shehzada hussain n he was busy spending night with jo that he forgot abt his own son...

Aftr all these screeching shouting crying by ruk jo wil go totally numb that she blamed her n she was responsible for kids death... Jalal initially may side with ruk n console her leaving jo... He wil think how they spent night n hussain was killed n how their love killed hussain... Then in DEK promo scene comes n he shouts with anger frustration that he no more trusts God n he no more believes love(jo shocking face was shiwn )this blaming will continue until zeenat n qasim r caught...then they wil b given death punishment...

In all these wer is ruk exposure? I guess there wil not b... But zee said that she did smethng alredy... Except swapping twins no other idea is cmg on my mind.. Previosuly hussain used to puke but now he is not... I think she swapped babies aftr dussehra... Aftr that hassan died bcz of excessive puking n he also was shown cried before the night of his death which hussain does normally... I think it's hussain died n hassan died yday... But how did kid die yday? Zeenat don't get ungli I think she strangled him but is it possible wen moti Zakira r present? Or else she fooled moti Zakira n sent them out?

In all these Jallu shudnt blame jo n alredy she was devastated with death news n she needs to b consoled..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Mansi, one thing... i don't think Ruku is directly involved... coz if her name comes as Hassan's killer, Jalal won't give her any simple punishment like throwing her away from his life... he will kill her right on spot... so may be Zeenat's name has come up and that he is holding Ruku responsible for Zeenat being in the palace...

Yes Diksha, that is right. That is how it may be, that Ruq did not intend death of hasan and may have dosed him lightly to make Jo look like a bad mother, but it may have killed the chld anyway.
Diksha, one more point attached to your Point No. 6 that Jalal knew Husein would die anyway. Could that be the reason why he did not want Jo to be alone with husein at night when he was sure to die and Jalal was protecting Jodha from the pain of losing Husein by calling her to his hojra via Moti?
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Sunny, as I have been replying all morning to posts, see the beauty of what has happened is that Jalal and Jodha spent the night together and left Husein with Zakira, Moti and Zeenat. Assuming Zeenat did not even have the finger glove with her and the baby seems to have died of fever, the anger of Jodha and Jalal must be aginst their "love " that made spend the night with each other and not with the baby.
Of one thing I am therefore certain. Jalal cannot blame Jodha for the baby neglect even if Ruq says so, because he too willingly spent the night with Jodha. And certainly there can be self-guilt in both of them and collective anger about their "love" but definitely no MU! Unless Jalal wants to pretend as if there's an MU to do his tehkeekaat!



Mansi ,i am sure this love will only help them come out of this loss as i m sure that after being numb for some time jodha will again in anger question the existence of kanha and dare him to give her child back and then it would be declared that she is pregnant and thus her faith in kanha would be back😊

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