Lots of things very fishy about yesterday's episode!

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MaddyO

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Posted: 10 years ago

#41

Mansi & Diksha - if Jalal had even a doubt something might happen to Hussain - he would not have called Jodha rather he would have gone to be with her and Hussain. Jalal would have shouted on Hakima to do anything to save Hussain.

I think we might be shown in fb that when Jalal saw Zeenat with her finger near Hussain's mouth - maybe when Zeenat was looking at Jalal - Hussain might have licked her finger. After this without knowing Zeenat removed it.

I don't think Jalal has any doubt on Zeenat at all, if he had he would have made sure she is not allowed around Hussain and Jodha.

I think Rahim might find the ungli in the garden and show it to SB, then she might remember Zeenat's finger burn and ask Hakima about it. Show the ungli to Hakima who then might tell that Hussain might have been poisoned with this same poison.

If Zeenat is not sure about which baby she poisoned, if she felt Hassan was harmed due to her poison she would feel worried about being caught. Maybe Zeenat had poisoned Hussain.

Both the poisons might be different cos Hassan had vomiting while Hussain might have got fever.

They might show us that when Zakira and Moti nodded off - Zeenat simply held her palm on Hussain's mouth and nose and killed him this way so there was not vomiting or any track

Could be Hussain did not have any fever actually, it was just Jodha's imagination and Zeenat just choked Hussain in his sleep without Moti or Zakira seeing her

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deejagi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#42

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Jodha's fiddling and meeting with MA was not cause of the curse!!!

MA cursed JALAL cos he killed Adham, MA's son so she cursed Jalal will get the same pain.
It was NOT due to anything Jodha did but for Jalal killing Adham. Jodha was no way responsible for getting this curse

Dadisa and Bharmal have already gone back to Amer, they are not in Agra.

Maddy do you find any logic Jalal use while he was in anger? moreover whatever may be the reason, Maham cursed both of them and only wife who got the curse was Jodha and none of his other Begum's were cursed.

And if Bharamal was present during Husein's death, for sure Daadisa will be there as it is highly impossible for Bharamal to go to Amer and comeback to Agra in a span of 2 - 3 days.

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Mansi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#43

Originally posted by: MaddyO
Mansi, wonderful prediction. I also think that it is possible that two different persons could have harmed Hassan and Hussain.

About the promos - ALL of them have been just indicative - not a single one was actually in any episode. (Though I have not seen the new promo)

Not the Dasara one where Jodha sees Zeenat near twins or Jalal asking Ruk to return Hussain to Jodha.

I think this promo might be similar to Jodha saying she is not going to see Kanha's face. Jalal remained strong then for Jodha's sake but this will agonize him more, especially if he had got some doubt about Hassan and now he will blame himself for not being able to protect Hussain.

Exactly, Maddy, so far all the promos have been symbolic only. And Jalal's anger on life and love and saying he will again be a jaalad is the same as Jodha getting angry with Kanha.

See one more thing Maddy. If Jodha spent the night with Jalal and they both jointly did that, how can he blame Jodha for neglect of Husein? That is the surest sign for me that he will not create any MU between them even if Ruq shouts that Jodha neglected Husein.

Jodha will be in shock and she might blame herself for not being with Hussain when this happened

What are CVs trying to show here? That Jodha is a careless mother? 😡😡😡 Ruk was caring? I just hate CVs when they resort to showing leads bad and humiliate them while letting Ruk go scot free

I think this time Ruq will not go scot free. In fact I am sure this track will see the end of her supremacy. Only question is timing. Don't know if it will happen fast now that Tatasky has confirmed capture of Qasim and Zeenat!

Zeenat said slow acting poison which cannot be traced and show effects after 5 days. So maybe Zeenat had poisoned Hussain and he showed the symptoms by developing fever. Jodha felt he had fever but when Zeenat told her Hussain does not have fever maybe Jodha thought she has been worrying unnecessarily, like Jalal told her about Hussain - when she had premonition and he got Hussain to her. Just then Moti told Jodha about Jalal's injury so worried she went to meet him - this was also after Zeenat reminded Jodha how much Jalal cares about her, does for her, he even fought with Ruk for her - so Zeenat laid guilt wrap on Jodha that made her leave Hussain with Zeenat, Moti and Zakira

Jalal and Ruk have trust on Zeenat so why would Jodha have any doubt? Ruk had sent her to be with Hussain at all times, so Jodha trusted her this one time

They showed them spending time at night, for sure it is so that they can blame themselves and feel they were busy with each other when their child might have needed them.

Also this ensures they will not be able to blame each other so its a blessing for us as it hints at no MU!

Jalal getting doubt on Jodha for negligence sounds bizzare cos just this once she left him - that too only to go check on Jalal when she got word he is injured. Jodha clearly told Jalal that Zeenat, Moti and Zakira are with Hussain. If Jalal had even a hint of doubt on Zeenat he would have rushed to Jodha's hojara with her. So far Jalal has no doubt on Zeenat.

Could be cos Jalal has doubt on different person for Hassan?

After Ruk enquired about Hassan to Hoshiyaar she said "hum kabhi aaisa nahi chahenge ki bachhe ko kuch ho" - why say this? Is that just a general statement or Ruk was giving something to Jodha that harmed Hassan?

Ruk has no reason to give that arc to Jodha after Hassan passed away so she let Jodha feed Hussain when Jalal took her to him

Exactly. This is my feeling too! Bang on!

If the CVs show end of this track is MU between Jalal and Jodha and separation - it means they show Ruk rewarded! Cos Ruk even if she did not get MUZ she managed to separate them. If CVs show this viewers will hate and TRPs dropp like they did after Ruk fake pregnancy track when Ruk was not punished.

This won't happen for sure. I feel it very strongly!

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diksha

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Posted: 10 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: Gem12

Dhiksha Mansi parents il fight to save thr kids life till d last moment...they cant sit and watch thr kid dying infront of them...they il do all possible ways to save d kid..here its an emperor who is so powrrful and d kid poisoned is the own flesh...so any parent il try to save thr kid till d last minute..

Coming to jolal spending thr night who knows after twins birth they hav hsd spent thr night together...now again spending thr night ...this leads to two things..one to blame themselves

teo both il b shattered and heart broken..even if culprit is caught and punished still they il b shattered..any thing that can restore thr happiness and faith in god is thr kid..after this track i think jo il b shown as pregnant again..this il lead to forget all thr pain they il start believing god again...lets see..i.think after this track jo il go to amer or jalal il taker to war

i know Gem, that parents will fight to any extent to save their kids...but remember they already have lost their one kid, and only Jalal knows that Hussain is also poisoned and is sure to die, as the poison has no antidote... but Jo might be unaware abt Hussain being poisoned, and so it may be Jalal's plan to keep Jo away from Hussain while the baby dies...that can be reason for his heavy drinking, that knowing that his kid is dying, he can't do anything to save the baby, and so Jalal is feeling as a big failure as a father, a husband and a Shehenshah...

and he knows that, his acting as if in badly need of Jo's love will make her stay with him out of her love and concern for him...

and regards the efforts , then now we have many medical resources, but this story is 450 yrs back, and if Hakims have clearly told that babies can't be saved, then Jalal knows that nothing can be done to save the babies...and he even remembers MA's curse...

Guys, now we call it all as superstitions and all... but even today, in many parts of India these curses r believed... and this story , again i say, is 450 yrs back, when all these things were believed blindly... so we can't overlook the effects of such things on the ppl in that era

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DearZindagi12

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Posted: 10 years ago

#45

Jaya maham cursed jalal saying jodha begum ki gaud main apki a aulade palrahe haina..hum baddua dete hai jaise humne apne bete ke lash ko haat main lekar maatham banaye vaise hi aap apni dono aulado kii lashe haatho main lekar maatham banayenge

wen she said this only jodha was pregnant and maham cursef jalals twins who were in jodhas womb..so asar bi jodha par pada...since she is married to him she lost his kids...jalal who killed adham..kasim is here to take revenge on jalal not on jodha...agar yaha bali chada di gayi bina kuch galti wo hai jodha...

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MA cursed JALAL cos he killed Adham, MA's son so she cursed Jalal will get the same pain.
It was NOT due to anything Jodha did but for Jalal killing Adham. Jodha was no way responsible for getting this curse

Dadisa and Bharmal have already gone back to Amer, they are not in Agra.
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And if Bharamal was present during Husein's death, for sure Daadisa will be there as it is highly impossible for Bharamal to go to Amer and comeback to Agra in a span of 2 - 3 days.

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MaddyO

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Posted: 10 years ago

#46

Originally posted by: deejagi

Maddy do you find any logic Jalal use while he was in anger? moreover whatever may be the reason, Maham cursed both of them and only wife who got the curse was Jodha and none of his other Begum's were cursed.

And if Bharamal was present during Husein's death, for sure Daadisa will be there as it is highly impossible for Bharamal to go to Amer and comeback to Agra in a span of 2 - 3 days.

Jaya, MA cursed Jalal ONLY, she said Jodha's name cos it was well known to everybody including MA that Jodha was pregnant with twins. This is why MA said the babies Jodha is carrying I curse you ------

So the curse was given to Jalal - for Adham

They mentioned in voice over that Bharmal and Dadisa left immediately after Ruk insulted them and they were not allowed to take Hussain with them.

It is possible that Bharmal and Dadisa might come back but they did say they have left

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abhi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#47

Mansi wonderful predictions.. I think both JJ themselves will feel guilty particularly JO will blame herself for leaving Hussein .. JO should have taken Hussein with him to Jalaal room..

I think Jalaal did have some injury & also drunk as he got to know that Hassan died due to poison not natural someone killed him.. That's why he keep saying JO should go and be with Hussein.. Jalaal couldn't force JO to go before that their love take over and both spend their night...

I think JO early morning left her hojra sees Hussein is not responding calls for hakima, so hakima announces that baby is died.. Ruqu will blame JO, Jalaal might now console Ruqu in anger that JO did spend the night with him, when he already told her to be with Hussein.. She might even be anger on JO for neligence and not listening to his words..

One or 2 episodes the anger will be there, while JO will go into depression, and both Z& Q will get caught and punsihed.. The twist will be next week, I think Ruqu will shout at Zeenat for believing her and Jalaal will become more suspicious trace that Ruqu exchanged Hussein with Hassan, now she lost MUZ...

I think Jalaal will got to war while JO is still feeling alone & when Jalaal returns, JO might fall and then again JO pregnancy is announced ..

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Mansi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: abhi786
Mansi wonderful predictions.. I think both JJ themselves will feel guilty particularly JO will blame herself for leaving Hussein .. JO should have taken Hussein with him to Jalaal room..

I think Jalaal did have some injury & also drunk as he got to know that Hassan died due to poison not natural someone killed him.. That's why he keep saying JO should go and be with Hussein.. Jalaal couldn't force JO to go before that their love take over and both spend their night...

I think JO early morning left her hojra sees Hussein is not responding calls for hakima, so hakima announces that baby is died.. Ruqu will blame JO, Jalaal might now console Ruqu in anger that JO did spend the night with him, when he already told her to be with Hussein.. She might even be anger on JO for neligence and not listening to his words..

One or 2 episodes the anger will be there, while JO will go into depression, and both Z& Q will get caught and punsihed.. The twist will be next week, I think Ruqu will shout at Zeenat for believing her and Jalaal will become more suspicious trace that Ruqu exchanged Hussein with Hassan, now she lost MUZ...

I think Jalaal will got to war while JO is still feeling alone & when Jalaal returns, JO might fall and then again JO pregnancy is announced ..

Thanks Abhi, you have put everything into a nice perspective for us to look forward to without the torture of what is coming ahead! 👏👏👏

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deejagi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#49

Originally posted by: skanda12

Jaya, you have really given these issues a hard thought and your answers are justifiable! But see the number of fishy issues in the whole episode ... the fact there are there are so many is in itself the biggest question mark as to what is happening behind the scenes. I don't think Jodha will go to Amer at all!I think after this bhandaphod a new track will start and all issues will be solved without any MU between Jo-Ja!

Mansi, I don't think Jodha will go to Amer due to MU but because to be away from the haunting memory of her 2 kids. May be daadisa will propose it while Hamida & Salima will support her by making Jalal understand that is good for Jodha to recover. So with heavy heart Jalal may persuade Jodha to go to Amer and we may have the bhandaphod at Agra in full swing. By the time Jodha is recovered (may be Daadisa will tell her about how Devaki last 7 of her kids but still didn't lose faith in god etc. and may organize some pooja's and Havan's to safeguard Jodha's upcoming Santan. Jodha will get to know about the details only after returning to Agra.

What will happen to Sharif? Will he and his father will get caught? How come his child is still alive while we had a spoiler that his daughter will die first?

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deejagi

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Posted: 10 years ago

#50

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

i know Gem, that parents will fight to any extent to save their kids...but remember they already have lost their one kid, and only Jalal knows that Hussain is also poisoned and is sure to die, as the poison has no antidote... but Jo might be unaware abt Hussain being poisoned, and so it may be Jalal's plan to keep Jo away from Hussain while the baby dies...that can be reason for his heavy drinking, that knowing that his kid is dying, he can't do anything to save the baby, and so Jalal is feeling as a big failure as a father, a husband and a Shehenshah...

and he knows that, his acting as if in badly need of Jo's love will make her stay with him out of her love and concern for him...

and regards the efforts , then now we have many medical resources, but this story is 450 yrs back, and if Hakims have clearly told that babies can't be saved, then Jalal knows that nothing can be done to save the babies...and he even remembers MA's curse...

Guys, now we call it all as superstitions and all... but even today, in many parts of India these curses r believed... and this story , again i say, is 450 yrs back, when all these things were believed blindly... so we can't overlook the effects of such things on the ppl in that era

Diksha, if Jalal was already aware of Husein's death certainty and had called Jodha out of the vicinity of Husein at the time of death, for what reason he will blame Jodha and how MU creeps between them? Will he once again blame Jodha for accepting to give one of her child to Ruqu and that has caused all the problem with his children? Had she not given Husein to Ruqu, Ruqu would not have had a chance to hire Zeenat, Zeenat would not have chance to kill his children? Or will he come to know about Sharif's involvement and will he blame Jodha for pardoning Sharif?

I don't dispute about believing in curse as even today we see people wear black thread on their ankle or forearm to ward evil effect.