Friends, I have looked at yesterday's episode at least five or six times from start to finish, because something very big is niggling about the whole episode for me. On the face of it, it seems like a standard episode, but if you start looking at all that was said and done in each scene with a great deal of alertness and care, you see so many clues to something going on behind the scenes.
I am not sure how many of you got this idea when watching the episode that many things looked "fishy". If you have got such a feeling from watching it, perhaps some of my comments may make sense. If you did not get this feeling while watching the episode, a lot of what I am about to write may set you thinking at least. Many of my ideas could be completely wrong also ... but a few of them at least are sure to be right, so let me share everything that's on my mind at this stage, and leave you to decide if you agree or disagree with my reading of yesterday's episode and my assumptions with regard to the track that have started to harden in my mind.
I want to tell you all that my view of yesterday's episode got coloured by four bits of information that came to me alongside of the episode itself ... these were the article spoiler that came over the weekend, the new promo that came yesterday, the Zee man's latest prophecies to me, Gem and Preet (all of whom called the Zee man independently but got identical replies from him), and then the Tatasky spoiler that came yesterday.
When I match what I saw in the episode yesterday against all these four items above ... I get a different view of yesterday's episode than what seems available from the episode at face value.
Lovely Post Mansi..
First a word about the spoiler and promo ...
Friends, regarding the new promo which came out yesterday, I don't think it is giving any hint about any twist upcoming in the serial except that Jalal will be so angry that he loses faith in God and gets enraged enough to say that he's reverting to his old heartlessness. That is neither here nor there. We didn't really expect him to be thrilled after both his babies are dead and this promo certainly does not say all kinds of awful things that it has been interpreted by some to say. It simply says he is very angry.
For example, some people are saying that this promo shows a definite MU between Jalal and Jodha and Jalal is siding with Ruq who blames Jodha, and Jalal is feeling now unsure of Jodha that she cared well for the babies etc. And that could be either the reason or it could the result of his saying in the promo that he is going back to being the old jallad.
What happened was that we had a spoiler a few days back that after the second baby's death in Jodha's care, Ruq will round up on Jodha and blame her for neglect and Jalal may start questioning if there is merit in Ruq's statements and may himself start wondering if Jodha was indeed neglectful. There will then be an MU between Jalal and Jodha and Jodha will return to Amer etc etc. This was what the article said.
When yesterday's promo came out that Jalal is very angry and threatens to go back to his old brutish ways, people just connected up the article spoiler and the promo and saw the promo as echoing the article spoiler and confirming the article spoiler. But if you look at the promo carefully, it simply seems to say that Jalal is frightfully upset after the death of the babies and has lost faith in God. Let's not try to connect up the promo and the article spoiler and make our own lives miserable. Anyway at the end of this post analysis, in my prediction space, I will try to show you how the article spoiler and promo fits into what I think is happening.
Mansi Lovely analysis...I think either promo is misleading us..or Jalal is angry on god that he is losing all whom he loves ..so from now he wont pray to god and he wont love anyone he il become a heartless emperor like before..he is trying to run away from problems...trying to run away from god..this change and hatred can be shown for one or two episodes..even tatasky spoiler says that Zeenat kasim il get caught and punished severly..after this jalal il blame himself coz of him and his dad deeds his kids died..then jo il become his strength and il make him to come out of this grief
Regarding the information gleaned from the Zee man and the Tatasky spoiler
As the Zee man has been saying for quite a while now, he maintained his position yesterday that Ruq's pardaphash is a 100% sure thing and imminent. Yesterday three separate people rang him up - me, Preet and Gem - and he said virtually the same things to all three of us.
He said Ruq is very definitely getting caught ... for a lot of strange twists are now to happen in this babies' death saga, and Ruq has ALREADY DONE something in the last few episodes that we may have missed as a hint that show that she is a culprit, but Jalal would have noticed that ... and for this deed she will get caught, and Jalal is already on the scent regarding the tehkeekaat of the death of the babies and he is most likely going to do an Atifa-style unmasking of Zeenat, Qasim and Ruq here.
What the Zee man would not say was when exactly Ruq and Zeenat will get caught and he kept saying to all "very soon". (But even if he gives a date, we are not about to believe it, I suppose!).
Further to this we got the Tatasky spoiler (ususally very reliable) that Zeenat and Qasim will now get caught! So if we do go by the Zee man and the Tatasky spoiler they seem in reasonable alignment.
If Zeeman is to be believed then this is the same zee man who gave info reg atifa track and the hint also.. he told only one thing for sure rukku il get caught and thr r lot of twists and this track il end soon..wen I asked wat u guys have planned to show he said jodha akbar's love il win and they il overcome all problems together ..this is thr motto.. so even if they show a separation mentally for one or two episodes then soon Zeenat il be caught and both il realize that its not god who took away thr kids with out any mercy..but its thr enemies who killed thr sons then again these two il be back to normal and try to over come thr sorrow...zee man also said this time no one can save rukku at the end she il be left alone..this track is like atifa's track whr we il be shocked at the end..but at the end all evil il be punished..
Accha, now what happened in the episode that bears watching!
The episode itself seems like it was setting the stage for the death of Husein at Jodha's hands (in the precap). But there were a lot of small details in the episode that bear questioning.
One: for some strange reason Ruq's cold and fever becomes a kind of pox ... pock-marks appear all over her body and make the hakima very suspicious of Zeenat that she may have given Ruq some vile drug from the medicine room. The hakima shows Zeenat that she is suspicious of her and checks for the likely lotion or potion in the medicine room, especially looking for the exact same pot from which Zeenat mixed something into Ruq's sherbet on the night she fell ill. But when the hakima checked the pot seemed full of its liquid and the hakima thought her suspicions of Zeenat may be wrong. But we had Zeenat lurking outside the room thanking her stars that she had the presence of mind to refill that pot with its liquid before the hakima got suspicious.
Question: Why did the hakima suspect Zeenat out of the blue? It could have been anyone?
Coz mansi wen hakima was giving to medicine or preparing the medicine she was explaining to some one about the side affects of this medicine wen its used more than the prescribed quantity and unfortunately Zeenat was thr wen hakima was telling this..so she suspected Zeenat..but soon wen she finds ungli and then she il find if it's the medicine or something mixed in the container by to confuse hakima and not to suspect zeenat..
Two: Meanwhile Jalal is inspecting daggers in his room when Jodha visits, and he also asks her to choose a dagger for herself. And then after they have exchanged some pleasant banter, he gets a summons that Mansingh and Todarmal are waiting for him across a river in a particular maidan, and he remembers he is due to meet the and rushes there.
Question: Why is he looking at daggers and asking Jodha to take one? And then why does he take that dagger and go to where Mansingh and Todarmal are waiting for him?
Some thing seems fishy..y jalal went to meet maansingh and todarmal ..was it related to hassan's death..then how he injured his fore head ..though its not a serious injury...
Three: Qasim and Zeenat meanwhile talk three things: one, she says she has lost the finger glove and they are both concerned someone should not find it and incriminate them; two, Zeenat says the hakima is already feeling very suspicious of her and is on her scenet and so the situation is rife with khatra and even if they have left the job of killing the babies "half-done" they should try to leave; and three, Qasim says he has heard that Jalal is already doing tehkeekaat on the death of Hasan and treating it as suspicious, so they both has better locate the finger glove, complete the job they have come for and flee.
Question: What made Qasim say jalal has started tehkeekaat on hasan's death? If jalal has started this, what has he found so far? Who is in this tehkeekaat with him? Mansingh? Salima? Moti? Todarmal?
I think some one got that finger and thus it made them to investigate on hassan's death..it cant be salima or moti..if its salima then she wud hav informed jalal about Zeenat's burnt finger...Moti is not that important here..
Four: We then have a scene where Jodha is trying to make Husein sleep, but he isn't sleeping and when Jodha touches Husein he seems to have high fever. Zeenat however does not seem to find him in fever when she touches the baby, and meanwhile Moti brings news that Jalal has had a head wound and has returned, and Jodha is in two minds whether to go to Jalal or to stay with husein. Zeenat urges her to go to Jalal, and the strange thing here is that Jodha looks at Moti and Moti also gives a silent nod that Jodha should go to Jalal. Jodha then goes leaving Husein with Zakira, Moti and Zeenat.
Question: Husein already has a high fever when Jodha touched him but then why does Zeenat say he doesn't have fever? And why is it Moti who giveds Jodha that final nod when she is dithering whether to go to Jalal or stay with Husein. It was Moti that brought news of Jalal's head wound and also Moti that egged Jodha to go to Jalal ... was Moti carrying out Jalal's instructions?
If moti was carrying out Jalal's instructions then how hussain died... we are yet to see how hussain died..more over tatasky spoiler says Zeenat and kasi mil be caught and punished for killing twin kids..Jalal cant risk hussain's life for his so called investigation..can we assume that Zeenat tried to fool jodha and made her to go to jalal..if jalal had some plan on his sleeves then y again and again he asked jo to goback to hussain as he knows she cant stay away from hussain and want to be with him all the time..
Five: At Jalal's room, Jalal may have hurt his head and may have a headache but he certainly has no wound on his head. So its looks a bit strange that Jodha should have been summoned for that! Anyway Jalal and Jodha ghave a pleasant banter when beyond saying Jodha should have been with Husein, Jalal does not labour that point. She expresses that he is as important to her as the baby which he seems to accept as okay. In the precap, the hakima pronounces that while Jodha was away Husein has died. Jodha gives a wail of agony, and Jalal in his hojra hears it. Ruq is then separately seen looking very angry and Jalal is seen wearing a look that could be interpreted in a hundred ways. It looks like he is upset but suspicious, and its hard to tell if he is suspecting Jodha of neglect or just very angry in general. It could be anything, but he looks angry, upset and suspicious. Those are the three words that struck me about his look in that last scene of the precap.
Moti told jodha to be with jalal..jalal never aksed her to come to his hojra..mansi they showed us two imp things ..one is jodha asked jalal y does he love her so much???and jalal too asked her the same question wen jo went to meet him ... wat cv's are trying to show..that since the love for the other made them to lose thr kid???? This il make them repent more
Question: Why did Jalal have no ostensible head wound? And why was he okay with Jodha leaving Husein and coming to him? And why later in the precap is he looking confounded by the death of Husein? Is his anger at Jodha or the Husein-death situation that got out of his hand while he was doing tehkeekaat on Hasan's death?
Mansi he told her to go back to hussain twice..but she said hussain is fine and under the care of Zeenat moti and zakira.. and now he needed her presence most than hussain..and inturn jalal asked her y does she love him so much..??in the end i am not sure if he is anger at jodha or at god or at him or at hussain's death..his expressions seems to be confusing us.. jalal wont suspect or question jodha..rukku might create a drama..but chalo her dream to become muz broken into pieces..now again jalal nor jodha il give thr kid for adoption..
My theory on this whole situation after seeing yesterday's episode ...
Folks, I have two connected theories after seeing this episode yesterday. I am choosing to go with the Zee man's theory that Jalal is already on the scent of a conspiracy by people to kill his babies, but I am not sure yet how much he knows and how much he has found out. I think he is in cahoots with Mansingh, Todarmal, Moti and Salima but perhaps not Jodha.
I also think that when they last showed the death of Hasan and the baby was covered in a shroud and Jodha was begging to see Hasan's face for the last time, we saw Manasingh carry away the shrouded baby and later Jalal was carrying that shrouded baby to the burial. But I have a suspicion that the real body of Hasan was not in that shroud, it was a puthla. The real baby must have been sent to some hakims for deciphering the reasons for death, and some of this tehkeekaat that Jalal is doing on Hasan's death must have filtered back to Qasim, which is why yesterday Qasim told Zeenat he is afraid Jalal is already on the scent regarding Hasan's death.
Now even Zeenat herself doesn't know which baby she poisoned, so she too may be believing that she poisoned Hasan who died first. But this doesn't fit with her own expectation that the baby that sucks the poisoned glove will die five days later and not immediately after sucking that glove.
Mansi good prediction..its possible..
Now here comes my big prediction.
I think it was Ruq who poisoned Hasan and whatever the poison she used, it was different from Zeenat's kind of poison. I think Ruq wanted to see Hasan dead so that Husein would be the waaris and she could be undisputed MUZ. True enough Hasan died almost instantaneously after vomiting stuff. However the baby that Zeenat poisoned seems to have been Husein, who after five days showed high fever yesterday when Jodha touched him. By the time Jodha could go to Jalal and come back Husein was dead.
Now I think Jalal knows what could have led to Hasan's death ... but his anger and upset at Husein's death maybe because he is foxed at the new way this second baby has died without the vomiting but of high fever. I think Jalal is foxed that there may be two different people involved in the death of his two babies each using a different mode of killing the babies!
It is my guess that even if Jalal should look like he is temporarily aligning with Ruq and blaming Jodha (or looking at her suspiciously for neglect of Husein and Hasan), inside his mind he is doing some investigation and will soon zero in on the finger glove, the hakima's suspicions etc and nail Zeenat and Qasim. But when Zeenat admits to poisoning one of the babies and not both, and reveals that her method of poisoning involved letting the baby suck the gloved finger and then die of fever AFTER FIVE DAYS, the suspicion will then fall on why Hasan died so quickly of vomiting. How exactly it will lead to suspicion n Ruq has to be seen. Perhaps it may also have something to do with Ruq's own baby vomiting is to be seen.
At this stage folks I only have a half-baked theory and not all the clues are in place to nail my theory. But I have a strong feeling that Ruq poisoned Hasan who died of vomiting, Zeenat poisoned Husein who died five days after of high fever, Jalal has already started investigating Hasan's death and the way Husein's death differs from Hasan's death may itself show him that more than one culprit was involved, and he is onto the tehkikaat.
One more reason I am convinced Jalal knows what he is doing is because it was Moti who told Jodha to go to Jalal after his "head wound" and it was Moti that gave Jodha that final "GO" nod to Jodha that made the dithering Jodha go to Jalal, and there Jalal had no sign of a head wound and seemed not all that perturbed that Jodha had left Husein to come to him. Something is ringing some bells for me as to why Jalal was looking at daggers in that scene before, why he told Jodha to select her own dagger, why he left in a hurry to meet Mansingh and Todarmal, why later he had a head wound that was not visible, why Moti of all people pushed Jodha to meet him etc. etc. Whether the hakima is also involved in Jalal's tehkikaat is not sure although she did suddenly have a suspicion after seeing the pock marks on Ruq and why she suspected Zeenat is another puzzle. And whether salima eventually found that finger glove in the garden is another open end.
All in all, I am proceeding with watching the story assuming (as the Zee man says) that Jalal already is on the scent and will deliver an Atifa-like unmasking ... and Ruq is definitely the culprit for the death of one of the babies. This much seems to be "firming up" in my mind. I don't have all the answers yet at all, so don't expect me to be sure of my line of thinking ... it is all firming up slowly. I have just shared my open thoughts so far, without any confirmations that I know I am correct. It's all just my line of thinking and by no means the final answer, so do take it all with a big pinch of salt.
But after yesterday's episode seemed to have a lot of "clues" to something else afoot, I am excited with this track now because I want to see how the whole picture fits together. I am not hating this track anymore, I am beginning to enjoy it!
Mansi..its possible that rukku can be the reason behind hassan's death..coz Hassan died in two days..Mansi if u remember wen Hassan died and rukku was in her hojra..rukku told to Zeenat that hum kabi nahi chahte te ki bache ko kuch hojaye..wat if rukku was drugging jo to prove jo a bad mother so that she il get Hassan also and muz title and since jo was feeding due to this Hassan died..and Zeenat poisoned hussain and since its slow poison he got high fever and died..
or wat if hussain was poisoned and wen rukku got to no that kid is sick and she swapped the baby a day before his death and took Hassan with her..since rukku was already drugging jo hassan was having jo's milk it affected him and his health and il be dead by tomorrow..that's y she did not allow anyone to come near the kid..not even jalal..in a fear that wat if find d the truth..she did not allow anyone except Zeenat..
Mansi even if jalal is angry at jo that she left hussain alone and came to him..but that il eventually turn into repentence wen he finds out that Zeenat and kasim was behind this and rukku too was involved behind kids death as she was the one who had given free access to the assassin to reach out to twin kids.. and also rukku was the main reason coz she did not allow amer clan to touch hussain and take hussain to amer.. agar allow kiya hota to hussain amer main hota to jaan to bach jati..but her greed made her lose everything...and jolal to lose thr kids
All that happened in yesterday's episode ...
Jodha is sitting sadly in her hojra when Jalal brings Husein. She is so happy and puts him in cradle and sings a lovely lori. Jalal hugs her and asks her to continue singing as it gives him also a lot of sukoon. Soon Jodha herself falls asleep leaning on Jalal's shoulder. Jalal seems blissfully happy with her and the child.
Meanwhile Ruq attended by the hakima is coughing a lot and her whole body has pox marks. She tells Zeenat to go and be with Husein in Jodha's hojra. The hakima seems very suspicious of Zeenat drugging Ruq and gives Zeenat dirty looks. Zeenat also notices that the hakima seems suspicious of her.
The hakima goes to her medicine room to see if Zeenat took any medicine from there and gave Ruq. Her eyes spot the small jar from which Zeenat added drugs to Ruq's sherbet. But the hakima sees the jar is full of the drug and thinks she may be mistaken that Zeenat used that drug. Zeenat hides and watches and is happy she replaced the drug before the hakima saw it.
Jalal in his hojra is inspecting some daggers when Jodha comes with Husein. Jalal tells Jodha also to choose a dagger. They get reminded of Amer days when she put a sword at his throat. But Jodha says it's now all changed to love. Jalal is very happy to see her happy. She asks why he loves her so much and he says she is the most important thing in his life.
Just then Jalal gets word that Mansingh and Todarmal are waiting for him across the river in the maidan. Jalal goes to meet them. Meanwhile Qasim and Zeenat meet in their room. Zeenat says only half their work has been done but there's khatra as she lost the finger glove and the hakima too is suspicious of her.
Qasim says he too has heard that Jalal has started tafteesh on Hassan's death so Zeenat must find the missing finger glove fast and do the remaining job so that they can both flee. Meanwhile Jodha is doing maalish for Husein in garden and then takes him for feeding. Zeenat offers help with both jobs, saying Ruq asked her to stay with Husein. Jodha refuses help.
At night Husein is not sleeping fast and Jodha touches him and feels he has high fever. But Zeenat touches him and says there is no fever. Just then Moti says Jalal has returned with head wound. Jodha doesn't want to leave Husein but Zeenat says Jalal does so much for her she should go to him and Zeenat, Moti and Zakira will care for Husein.
Jodha goes to Jalal's hojra where he looks like having a headache but no wound. He says Jodha should be with Husein. But Jodha says Jalal also needs her. He asks Jodha why she loves him so much. She says because he helps her so much. Meanwhile Zakira in Jodha's hojra seems falling asleep herself. Zeenat acts very friendly to Moti discussing how happy Jodha and Jalal are.
In the precap, the hakima says to Jodha that unfortunately Husein is dead. Jodha wails in agony. Jalal hears it in his hojra. They show Ruq shocked and also Jalal shocked and puzzled looking at jodha.
Mansi one thing is sure this track is also going like atifa track..thr also we all know that atifa and her husband had some intentions..but they did not show thr plan and showed it on the last day..and at that time too no one suspected maham..all were thinking it cud be rukku or MC or abumali or sharif..but it turned out as maham..in this track from the beginning we know that kasim and Zeenat il kill the kids and gets caught and punished..wats new in that ..its all predicted by everyone..suspense is with rukku and her bandaphod..now they il come up with some twist and show that rukku too was involved in one of twin kids death..she may not be directly involved ..mansi if she was the one who killed Hassan then jalal il cut her into pieces...I think her plan must be to harm jo and to prove her a bad mother and but Hassan died it coz of her act...then jalal il punish her but she il use her wish and escapes from punishment..thus jalal il punish her and sideline her and il remove all powers..
Recent spoiler says that rukku il be sad thinking that she lost hussain and she cant adopt any kid of jodha as she wont give her kid in future and jo il be muz.. wat does it mean her truth and her greed to become muz and these reasons made her to separate hussain from jodha il be out??
Mansi I was worried wen I saw new promo..but this show is about JA..chahe kuch bi ho at the end its JA and thr love il overcome all struggles...they can show mental separation for one or two episodes and once the cultprit is caught again they il patch up..more over I just want this track to end soon..and I am even fine with leap concept and chotu salim concept..instead of seeing this torture its better to see chotu salim and his naughtypan and jo to be called as muz and rukku ki chehra dekne layak..wen all il address jo as muz...jalal too il be happy that he got his waaris from jodha..yaha to 4 months se sirf torture ke alawa kuch bi nahi...this track il be over by coming Monday or Tuesday before diwali